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hi all,
I've just bought a 2nd-hand XDA iis and is battery is not so good.
So I intend to buy a new one.
But I'm wondering which bat is the best now.
I've gone to ebay and see that they have some types: original 1500 mAh, 2400mAh, "slim" 3200 mAh and "fat" 3600mAh.
I think the 3600mAh is the most suited for my xda.
Is there any better choice? Where could I buy it?
With the 3600mAh, how long would the xda would last if I use wifi IE with the lowest backlight?
Do any of you have any problems with it?
Could I use my old charger or Do I have to buy a bigger one?
Could I still use my usb-cable (not cradle) for charging my xda?
And is there any conflict with WM5? (I've just read in our forum that someone have problems with WM6).
Thank all of you so much.
son_volam002 said:
But I'm wondering which bat is the best now.
I've gone to ebay and see that they have some types: original 1500 mAh, 2400mAh, "slim" 3200 mAh and "fat" 3600mAh.
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I would say that primarly it would depend on if a 'fatter' and heavier phone bothers you.
Keep in mind that just about all the cases and various accessories that hold or clip on to the phone are designed for a phone that has the original battery, so a thicker battery may well make them unusable (cases are the primary example I would give).
How long it would last is impossible to say, as it depends on how you use the phone, what apps are on the phone, and so on. Also, 3rd party battery quality does vary. Which manufacture is the best, I can't say as I've never seen any place that reviews battery life.
I've never heard of any incompatibilities when talking about a particular version of win mobile and a certain capacity battery, and can't imagine that it's even possible.
Pick one and see what you get, then post the results here so the every one else can benefit from your experience.
jdc said:
I would say that primarly it would depend on if a 'fatter' and heavier phone bothers you.
Keep in mind that just about all the cases and various accessories that hold or clip on to the phone are designed for a phone that has the original battery, so a thicker battery may well make them unusable (cases are the primary example I would give).
How long it would last is impossible to say, as it depends on how you use the phone, what apps are on the phone, and so on. Also, 3rd party battery quality does vary. Which manufacture is the best, I can't say as I've never seen any place that reviews battery life.
I've never heard of any incompatibilities when talking about a particular version of win mobile and a certain capacity battery, and can't imagine that it's even possible.
Pick one and see what you get, then post the results here so the every one else can benefit from your experience.
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At last, I've bought a fat 3600 battery and I think it's a good decision.
Now, I can use my fone for browse Internet in near 6 hour with wifi; or I could use it with 5 day stanby (how amazing).
some small problems are:
- the fone is thicker and heavier (no problem with me).
- My third party charger is a bit hotter.
- And the charging time is longer (ofcourse).
do not by batteries by ACME power. I have bought 2400mAh and feel no difference compare to standard old battery. Besides, I have troubles with bt. it turns off by its self with only this battery.
I bought a battery for my Htc Harrier about 4-5 months ago. Sorry i dont know the brand of it but its says its 3200mah and "replacement for XDAIII". The inside of the battery is kind of bloated out from the heat and looks a little dodgy but still works. Ive had a few problems with it where it powers off for no reason. When i turn it on again the battery charge looks fine.
Just a couple of days ago for the first time my phone just completely hard resetted and lost all my data. I again turned it on and the battery charge was fine. im blaming that on my battery.
I use my phone mainly for listening to music on my bluetooth headphones while im driving to school and for typing things out on my bluetooth keyboard at school. The standared battery that comes with the phone simply has not enough charge time to do all this.
With all its annoying problems i still use my battery. I just make sure i back up my most important things on my storage card. And charge it every night.
Soon im going to buy a HTC Blue Angel due to my countrys crappy plans that the Harrier comes with. Maybe i might buy the 3600mah while im at it.
So my advice is if you dont need the charge of a extended battery then stay away. Unless you are like me and need the extra battery power then beware of some stress ahead that it might give you.
Hi,
I have kaiser since 20days, so I noticed strange thing:
-when my kaiser is in stand by mode with display off, by battery can last very long - like 10% in a day
-BUT when I do something battery goes very fast down - like 5min call 15%down, or 2-3min lisening music 10% down
Is it normal?
PS
I'm charging it from the PC USB
hey there..u should flash your device to other radio..try here
im sure it will help
how come the radio version can contribute to the battery life?!
I'm with 1.65.16.25 radio.
So I do not need new battery?
New battery performance may be unusual
profusion said:
Hi,
I have kaiser since 20days, so I noticed strange thing:
-when my kaiser is in stand by mode with display off, by battery can last very long - like 10% in a day
-BUT when I do something battery goes very fast down - like 5min call 15%down, or 2-3min lisening music 10% down
Is it normal?
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When your battery is still new (and 20 days is still quite new), it won't perform at maximum capacity and with normal discharge performance - give it time. Additionally, if you are unfamiliar with these devices, they are battery hogs even when the battery isn't new so it'd be worth buying a second or even third battery along with a cradle capable of spare battery recharging if you are planning on lots of use during a day. I've got through about 2.5 batteries in a long day before. If you read your devices manual and search the forums here, there are plenty of guidlines to help you maximise each battery charge. If you do post again, it would help if you provide the specifics of your device (ROM/Radio/SPL etc). The wiki explains how you can find this info out and it's worthwhile reading for all people new to a TyTN II.
Edit: Just seen your new post and the Radio incorporates certain drivers which decide (among many other things) how the CPU resources are used. The more the CPU is used, the higher will be the power consumption. I used to use that Radio when I briefly had Windows Mobile 6.1 on my device and found it's performance (in many respects) to be lacking so it'd be worth checking if there's a newer official ROM from your suppliers website which may include a newer Radio.
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When your battery is still new (and 20 days is still quite new), it won't perform at maximum capacity and with normal discharge performance - give it time. Additionally, if you are unfamiliar with these devices, they are battery hogs even when the battery isn't new so it'd be worth buying a second or even third battery along with a cradle capable of spare battery recharging if you are planning on lots of use during a day. I've got through about 2.5 batteries in a long day before. If you read your devices manual and search the forums here, there are plenty of guidlines to help you maximise each battery charge. If you do post again, it would help if you provide the specifics of your device (ROM/Radio/SPL etc). The wiki explains how you can find this info out and it's worthwhile reading for all people new to a TyTN II.
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sorry I forgot - I have it from 20 days but it is not new!
profusion said:
sorry I forgot - I have it from 20 days but it is not new!
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In that case maybe the battery is on it's way out (they start doing things like this when they get old as well). If you get a spare or two and carry them around with you, there'll be no worries about running out.
can you advise me that type of battery to buy?
is that ok: ebay link!
Search time for battery info
profusion said:
can you advise me that type of battery to buy?
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One of my batteries came bundled with a cradle that recharges both the phone and spare battery, the other spare is a HTC original (through their repair centre in Milton Keynes). Both seem to perform similarly but there are many threads here about battery choices that you can search for and read up on! No one is going to hold your hand and advise you to buy x over y - thats your choice!
Flying Kiwi said:
One of my batteries came bundled with a cradle that recharges both the phone and spare battery, the other spare is a HTC original (through their repair centre in Milton Keynes). Both seem to perform similarly but there are many threads here about battery choices that you can search for and read up on! No one is going to hold your hand and advise you to buy x over y - thats your choice!
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Many thanks I will search that treads to read!
Hi
I finally buy a momax battery for USD 13 . I am charging it now. Will give you update news when i used to replace the original battery.
posts on the web said that it is even better than the original battery though it is 1100mah only
let see !
i have one already. its better than the original one.
How much better?
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i have one already. its better than the original one.
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How so if its only 1100mah?
I bought one for 27USD from ebay, where did you find the cheaper one?
any idea how better than the origianl one?
I bought it in Hong Kong which costs HKD 100 (~USD 13). Much cheaper.
I bought a charger for the battery as well. It can charge 2 batteries at the same time !
lovebell said:
I bought one for 27USD from ebay, where did you find the cheaper one?
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I think around 10-20% better than the original one.
harky said:
any idea how better than the origianl one?
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corresponding link
battery : http://www.momax.net/en/Product_Show.aspx?ID=808&T=1
charger :http://www.momax.net/en/Product_Show.aspx?ID=822&T=1
I suggest to all those who havent bought it yet, and are planing to, please wait for some time if its not urgent, MOMAX will surely come out with a "X-LEVEL" battery for the HD2!
I have used the MOMAX X-LEVEL battery for my previous Touch HD, and it was like around 20% more long lasting than the Original battery by HTC.
interesting. im doing the last full empty to full charge cycle (ive heard its good for the battery) and this is day 3 (21:00) iver used the phone couple of times a day for calls (short ones) and for a few youtube vids via 3.5g some games and just playing around with it.
ive noticed battery drains very fast when using wifi and data connection.
so a 10 to 20 % increase in battery life might not be that exciting.
unless i buy one as a backup battery.
might do that..pls keep me posted
i will be keeping an eye on this thread as i just scrap through a day with the original battery... its gettign me down
must add thou, how is it better being less mAh ?
in the same size? I mean you don't need another back cover..?
Man. There are people complaining about having 30% on day 2. I'm at 30% before 5pm on the first day.
Operationmob said:
Man. There are people complaining about having 30% on day 2. I'm at 30% before 5pm on the first day.
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Haha! ^This^ - If I just leave the phone sitting there, on the desk - Battery life is good. But, I bought this phone to play with, dammit! I can use up 30/40% of battery before lunch surfing, tweeting, watching vids, listening to podcast etc, Oh - and feeding my addiction to crayon physics. I have actually had to invest in a 'manbag' (dear Lord, the shame!) in order to cart around my charger.
Coming from a Nokia E71 - which had a phenomenal battery life (i'd get three/four days of heavy use) it's a bit of a shock, but understandable - after all, screen is about 4 times the size! However; physically, the E71 battery (BP-4L) was no larger - if anything seemed slightly smaller in my recall - and was a 1500mAh beast. Surely HTC could have crammed in a little more juice without having the resort to turning the slim HD2 into a less handsome Quasimdo figure with the promised extended battery? Oh well, I shall stick to the manbag for now.
Amazing! Where do you people find this information on batteries and chargers such as the Momax!!! In relation to this subject: has anyone spotted the double capacaty battery and matsching backplate for the HD2, you know the one that has been rumuroing arout on other forum threads on the Leo (with the picture where the stand leg comes out of the back plate).
I have gone for it ! I bought a MOMAX one to try i cant stand it anymore, like most of you I am not getting a full day and thats with most of the gadgets turned off I am not in the position to carry around spare batteries so fingers crossed i get abit more form it, i will keep you all posted of what i find....
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I have gone for it ! I bought a MOMAX one to try i cant stand it anymore, like most of you I am not getting a full day and thats with most of the gadgets turned off I am not in the position to carry around spare batteries so fingers crossed i get abit more form it, i will keep you all posted of what i find....
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Hi
Have you got the MOMAX battery? Has it got you more working time?
still awaiting for it to arrive.....
Its arrived whoop whoop !!!! i will let you know after i haev charged and tried it out fingers crossed
did any1 got this monster ?
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...d-battery-for-htc-legend-bb00100-1800mah.html
it's about 47$
if u do please tell me how it performs ... i heard and read that legend battery isn't quite impressive :| ... i really like this phone ! if someone tried tell me plz! i'm lookin 2 buy a legend myself ( i own a blackstone and is ... about same thing : with light usage hardly 2 days ! )
Legend battery sucks. Anyone had any experience with the mugen brand?
To bad they dont tell what the Whr of the battery is.
And all the "reviews" are of other batteries and a few years old.
Wonder how the managed to engineer a 50% bigger capacity battery in the legend since there is no margin for any physical increase of the battery.
jjs87: Why? The battery can't run on a different voltage so the capacity in mAh is clear enough.
Has the battery been tested?
Any new infos?
come on guys we wanna know!
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come on guys we wanna know!
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If you're that anxious, why don't you buy it yourself, then you can post your findings here..
Can't we find find those batteries for a bit less expansive?
47 € is not particuliary expansive, but if I can find for less money it would be cool.
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If you're that anxious, why don't you buy it yourself, then you can post your findings here..
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I haven't bought it yet because my Legend is new
And for that i Don't know it's real power. At the end of The day with 3g or WiFi always on i have about 30-50% for now.
I bought one, but it is currently out of stock. I think, it will ship July 9th?
When I receive it, I will review it and post my results. I am surprised someone has not yet already done this.
Someone on a Dutch forum has this battery and will report in a few days. I will post his findings here!
tks, i look forward to know how it behaves, but from what i've red, Mugen is an awsome brand with lots of quality products.
lets wait and see
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Someone on a Dutch forum has this battery and will report in a few days. I will post his findings here!
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Did he buy it from the same place TC posted or did he get it from a shop in Holland?
I hope the latter since I'm anxious for a hicap battery for my Legend
Yes, I think he bought it on the same website. He hasn't posted anything at the moment though..
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First review from a Dutch forum (translated from Dutch, so it might be a little iffy):
I've got the Mugen Power Extended Battery for HTC 1800mAh Legend BB00100 a few days now. Enough time (following the instructions) to fully charge and empty the battery a few times. I drained the battery by leaving the phone running Google Maps navigation. Yesterday and today was the first normal use.
Old situation: Before I had this battery, I was happy if the battery could make it through one working day. With light use in the morning, and in the evening with 40-50% left to do some web browsing. If I didn't put it on the charger at night, the next morning it was about 15%, not enough to start the day. Under normal to heavy use I never made it to the end of the day without charging in between.
New situation: With the same kind of usage it's about 70% in the evening. Again some web browsing before bed and no charger. This morning there was still 43%.
Conclusion: I still put it on the charger because I'm still unlikely to make it through an entire day. But what's clear is that I can make it easily through one day even with heavier use, no more charging in between. That makes the purchase worth for me.
Don't expect that you now can navigate for hours without draining your battery because that won't change. That was exactly what I hoped it would cause. Nothing more annoying than a device to with normal to heavy use that won't make it through one day. Striking is that the Battery Graph program (from where I get these measurements) shows that this battery longer stays at 100% and about as steep downhill runs compared to the standard battery.
creatif said:
Yes, I think he bought it on the same website. He hasn't posted anything at the moment though..
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First review from a Dutch forum (translated from Dutch, so it might be a little iffy):
I've got the Mugen Power Extended Battery for HTC 1800mAh Legend BB00100 a few days now. Enough time (following the instructions) to fully charge and empty the battery a few times. I drained the battery by leaving the phone running Google Maps navigation. Yesterday and today was the first normal use.
Old situation: Before I had this battery, I was happy if the battery could make it through one working day. With light use in the morning, and in the evening with 40-50% left to do some web browsing. If I didn't put it on the charger at night, the next morning it was about 15%, not enough to start the day. Under normal to heavy use I never made it to the end of the day without charging in between.
New situation: With the same kind of usage it's about 70% in the evening. Again some web browsing before bed and no charger. This morning there was still 43%.
Conclusion: I still put it on the charger because I'm still unlikely to make it through an entire day. But what's clear is that I can make it easily through one day even with heavier use, no more charging in between. That makes the purchase worth for me.
Don't expect that you now can navigate for hours without draining your battery because that won't change. That was exactly what I hoped it would cause. Nothing more annoying than a device to with normal to heavy use that won't make it through one day. Striking is that the Battery Graph program (from where I get these measurements) shows that this battery longer stays at 100% and about as steep downhill runs compared to the standard battery.
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Hi,
What about the size of the Mugen Power Extended 1800mAh Battery? Is it the same size as the original 1300mAh one? If not, how much bigger it is? Any photos?
On Mugen website it says:
"The extra size and weight increases pale into insignificance when you consider the true convenience the battery gives... it represents excellent value for money."
Thanks!
hey guys, consider searching a topic i think it's here @ xda about batteries.
It's ridiculous, the best battery currently is the original one from HTC.
All the others either don't have the announced capacity, or don't fully charge.
if I find it i'll update this post.
update...lol
check this guys...
http://batteryboss.org/
the original thread is at http://androidforums.com/htc-desire/66987-seidio-1600mah-extended-life-battery.html
it's an htc desire post but you'll understand what i'm saying.
@ bodjor its the same size otherwise it will not fit in the legends unibody case
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Mafiatounes said:
@ bodjor its the same size otherwise it will not fit in the legends unibody case
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Thanks, Mafiatounes. I thought that logically, but was confused by the statement on Mugen's website ("The extra size and weight...").
So, is it worth buying?
For me its worth buying my legrnds standard battery runs for 8h of heavy use and I need about 12h at least I think only mugen can provide that amount of power
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Okay, I have been reading about how there is supposedly NO WAY you can change out the stock battery inside the case with a larger one. I understand that is so, but WHY exactly can you not solder in a new, larger unit instead please? Is there some sort of firmware that will only support the stock battery or is it another kind of issue?
Can anyone please explain it to me? I have advanced skills for soldering, so I can handle pretty much anything barring a motherboard issue...
Its a kernel issue. The battery is controlled by a custom driver.
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Its a kernel issue. The battery is controlled by a custom driver.
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I see, that is disappointing. Has anyone tried to tackle this? I'm guessing a resounding "NO". heh
I'm not positive that you couldn't use a larger capacity battery but it probably would be physically larger and probably wouldn't fit.
Not Li-Ion battery but I have replaced a 3800mAh battery with a 5000mAh with no problem at all. This was a Ni-MH battery but a Li-Ion battery charging is a far simpler than a Ni-MH. I was able to install a larger capacity battery cheaper then an OEM. I've been doing this for years.
As far as I can tell, there is plenty of room for a larger battery inside the unit, the main problem seems to be getting it to work, yet I cannot find a single instance of ANYONE actually trying to put one in...
Are you quite sure it could be that easy? I really like this little tablet, but two things bother me: The battery life -SUCKS- and I don't like carrying external batteries with me.
As it is now I can get it fully booted and online in under a minute and all that is needed is to keep it running for more than a few hours and I will be very happy. (Well, until we get a finished version of ICS I won't be really really happy, but LOL)
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As far as I can tell, there is plenty of room for a larger battery inside the unit, the main problem seems to be getting it to work, yet I cannot find a single instance of ANYONE actually trying to put one in...
Are you quite sure it could be that easy? I really like this little tablet, but two things bother me: The battery life -SUCKS- and I don't like carrying external batteries with me.
As it is now I can get it fully booted and online in under a minute and all that is needed is to keep it running for more than a few hours and I will be very happy. (Well, until we get a finished version of ICS I won't be really really happy, but LOL)
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Why bother with ICS, when CM10.1 (Android 4.2.1) is more complete, better performance and battery life?
Also, look into your wifi sleep policy settings, this has a huge impact on battery usage when in standby.
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As far as I can tell, there is plenty of room for a larger battery inside the unit, the main problem seems to be getting it to work, yet I cannot find a single instance of ANYONE actually trying to put one in...
Are you quite sure it could be that easy? I really like this little tablet, but two things bother me: The battery life -SUCKS- and I don't like carrying external batteries with me.
As it is now I can get it fully booted and online in under a minute and all that is needed is to keep it running for more than a few hours and I will be very happy. (Well, until we get a finished version of ICS I won't be really really happy, but LOL)
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The algorithm for charging a Li-Ion cell is simple. It won't matter what the capacity of the cell is but the charging rate is something that you can't change so it'll take longer to charge.
I have a automotive scope that uses 1600 mAh 7.2V Ni-MH pack stuck inside the unit. A PITA to change, it had standard RC type connectors so I installed a extender to go outside the unit. The OEM packs use "AA" cells but I had a 7.2V pack built using 5000 mAh sub "C" cells which I Velcro to the case. I could have used "D" cells which are up to 12000 mAh now but it would have way too bulky. I normally charge the packs on an external charger for speed although I do have it charge with the unit at times.