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My dad showed me these pictures and stories this morning, I thought it was very interesting. Nobody knows why China is building these gigantic empty cities. They aren't just building them in China either, one in Africa is designed to hold up to a half million people and features 750 eight-story apartment buildings, 12 schools and more than 100 retail units. This one ghost city cost $3.5 billion and covers 12,355 acres. Apparently China is building 20 of these cities a year, and nobody really knows why.
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Some speculation that I have read is that China has always been known to be very patient, and that they dont plan by the year or decade but by the generation. Apparently they are told that if they work hard their grandchildren will reap the benefits of their labor. Could they be planning on lifting the one child ban? If so, speculation suggest their population could quadruple in one generation. But why cities in Africa? This is all new to me and very confusing. Anybody else seen this or want to speculate?
These cities are for Aliens, like these: :cyclops: :cyclops: :cyclops:
EDIT: And I have a feeling that this thread will be closed :trollface:
vaderx10minipro said:
These cities are for Aliens, like these: :cyclops: :cyclops: :cyclops:
EDIT: And I have a feeling that this thread will be closed :trollface:
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Why would the thread be closed? This is an off topic discussion of the ghost cities with hopefully some critical thinking and speculation as to their purpose. Where I live people are so ethnocentric that nobody has even heard of them, I was hoping by asking a broad audience that maybe someone has heard something that I haven't. I think its very interesting. If threads about "rooting toasters" and "taking over Australia" can stay open I dont see why a serious thread with plenty of potential for discussion should be closed. Besides this IS off topic, I was told by mods that just about anything goes here with the exception of the F word.
Also those are Cyclopes, or mutants, but not aliens. Haven't you seen Futurama? lol.
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Why would the thread be closed? This is an off topic discussion of the ghost cities with hopefully some critical thinking and speculation as to their purpose. Where I live people are so ethnocentric that nobody has even heard of them, I was hoping by asking a broad audience that maybe someone has heard something that I haven't. I think its very interesting. If threads about "rooting toasters" and "taking over Australia" can stay open I dont see why a serious thread with plenty of potential for discussion should be closed. Besides this IS off topic, I was told by mods that just about anything goes here with the exception of the F word.
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I'm definately interested....I'm gonna do some reading before I comment though. Definatly intriguing.
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I'm definately interested....I'm gonna do some reading before I comment though. Definatly intriguing.
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This. ^^^
I will be back once I've done some research. This is extremely intriguing. Thanks to the OP for posting this.
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I'm thinking China wants to show to the world they have the workforce to build something great, and these cities would detract from the farm lands and poverty in China. One day some one might move in there.
this reminds me of a city built near the 38th parallel in North Korea. It was built to looks lik another city there, but its empty and they have speakers announcing "good" propaganda loud enough for the South Koreans to hear on the border.
I thought about these and posted when I saw the pictures of the city in the images thread. But that turned out to be an old Russian Ghetto.
Speculation of these ghost cities is widespread. I do know one thing, the massive building campaign in the past has caused a shortage of both concrete and steel world wide.
A few winters ago, steel was so crazy in price that some factories would not take and order at a specified price. They would take the order and quote a price to the customer when the product was available to ship. This was in winter stoves.
Like I said there are several theories for these buildings. Places for people to move off the farms.
Personally I think they are for us Americans. China is going to call in the debt that we owe them and we citizens will have to go into indentured servitude. LOL J/K.... Really Obama has sold many citizens to China as part of the New World Order.
Actually, the most prevalent theory is that China has so much extra cash they are simply investing in infrastructure. They can always find occupants. There are billions of those little ****ers over there.
And it wouldn't be the first time a country built buildings without actual occupants. Saudi Arabia built the Khobar Towers complex for housing of the Bedouins. The tent people would not move in to them. Rumor has it they didn't like living below someone else. A whole cultural thing having to do with the unclenliness of the bottom of feet. May be bull****. Don't know. But they do have a feet thing in that part of the world. And the apartment complexes were gorgeous. Marble everywhere. I lived in one for several months when the complexes were used for housing the US military during Desert Storm.
Rent-a-City?
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Interesting. But they sure ain't building 'em for nothing. Might have something to do with power plants(building cities for workers, just like Chernobyl), or just new cities that will be "opened" later.
E: 85Gallon made a good point. Maybe they are investing money in physical structures, since money's price is decreasing all the time, but estates prices aren't...
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I agree that the cities could be a good investment for them. I've also been reading that China is profiting by extracting natural resources from these lands and shipping them back home. And also that by building in these other countries, China is also nurturing better relationships with other governments and their citizens in the process and providing jobs. China looks to be stepping it up to (if they aren't already) become a/the world power.
Obviously they're for shelter after the aliens wipe out all inhabited cities. The Chinese knew all along... :silly:
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http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2006/07/huge_scale_mode.html
Hmmm this is strange. Probably totally unrelated.. China has a scale model of the mountain range they share with India.
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Obviously they're for shelter after the aliens wipe out all inhabited cities. The Chinese knew all along... :silly:
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I was thinking it's a shelter for the time when The Virus is unleashed, and zombies are everywhere. Now there are "chosen ones" that will live on those cities all around China, and after every living person is dead, they will start reproducing, and China will conquer the earth, and become the real super power. Of course the Virus is created by Chinese government.
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I was thinking it's a shelter for the time when The Virus is unleashed, and zombies are everywhere. Now there are "chosen ones" that will live on those cities all around China, and after every living person is dead, they will start reproducing, and China will conquer the earth, and become the real super power. Of course the Virus is created by Chinese government.
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Also a possibility... *puts on tin foil hat*
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YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG!
china wants to unleash horror to the world through Apple's Sh*t
all ipads, iphones, ipods and all ish*ts will kill all humans!!!!
most of apple's products are produced by china, they knew it all along!
and the safest place on earth would be china
So, after reading up on the subject a little. I wonder if it's to create jobs and foreign (trade) relations since at least one of these "cities" has been built on the African Continent??
Whatever the reason, these "ghost cities" are fascinating.
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YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG!
china wants to unleash horror to the world through Apple's Sh*t
all ipads, iphones, ipods and all ish*ts will kill all humans!!!!
most of apple's products are produced by china, they knew it all along!
and the safest place on earth would be china
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Most of the Android tablets are made in China too...
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That news is ancient.
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I know the mountain is old news but I had never heard about it until talking to one of my friends about the cities and they mentioned it to me.. I thought it was kind of cool.
Babydoll25 said:
So, after reading up on the subject a little. I wonder if it's to create jobs (and foreign (trade) relations since at least one of these "cities" has been built on the African Continent??
Whatever the reason, these "ghost cities" are fascinating.
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That does kind of seem to be the case, at least partially. I think there are some great ideas here, thanks everybody. And agreed, very interesting.
the ghost citys are crazy i have been reading about them for awhile i feel wierd just looking at them lol!
http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20110613000070&cid=1102 <-------CHECK THIS OUT
Interesting find. Would be awesome if like one guy owned and lived in the city by himself lol.
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Exactly what it states.............SPORTS THREAD...here you can talk about any sport you want....much needed here as we had one at PPCG....migration is a must!!
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Thread reopened.
Any more childish bickering will result in this thread being closed permanently. I don't want that and I'm sure you don't want that. If someone starts being aggressive, report them and the ignore them. Public arguing was what got this thread closed - not the actions of any one person.
We're all friends here, so let's keep it that way
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The Doctor is in !
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The Doctor is in !
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Nice!! Now we need the rest of the crew!!! I sent invites out....
How bout chicharito in manchester??
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How bout chicharito in manchester??
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Anything you want bro....its wide open!!
In.
My teams:
NFL: Miami Dolphins
NBA: Miami Heat
NCAA: Miami Hurricanes
MLB: Tampa Bay Ray
You can see a pattern here...Lol.
Well I wanna talk about the stupidity of American "football".
You see, most of the time, American "football" is being thrown and then held with the hand, and only perhaps 3% of the time it is being kicked.
On top of that the "ball" is not round. Ask any child to draw a ball and the poor child will be hard pressed (or an American idiot) to draw something that resembles that egg.
Thirdly, there is that issue of machismo that the Americans like to push. Yeah, you run around bashing people in a full contact sport. Ever heard of rugby? Those guys only wear groin protectors and tooth protectors. Not a padding more.
Suck it, American "Football"!
/This does not, in any way, bash Americans, only their version of football
//The rest of the world would like the word football back.
///Call it Handegg if you want to, otherwise you are just as asinine with your language as the Brits, who like to add an "o" in colour. (Yes, I'm Brit Eng educated. Blame the basterds who conquered us)
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Well I wanna talk about the stupidity of American "football".
You see, most of the time, American "football" is being thrown and then held with the hand, and only perhaps 3% of the time it is being kicked.
On top of that the "ball" is not round. Ask any child to draw a ball and the poor child will be hard pressed (or an American idiot) to draw something that resembles that egg.
Thirdly, there is that issue of machismo that the Americans like to push. Yeah, you run around bashing people in a full contact sport. Ever heard of rugby? Those guys only wear groin protectors and tooth protectors. Not a padding more.
Suck it, American "Football"!
/This does not, in any way, bash Americans, only their version of football
//The rest of the world would like the word football back.
///Call it Handegg if you want to, otherwise you are just as asinine with your language as the Brits, who like to add an "o" in colour. (Yes, I'm Brit Eng educated. Blame the basterds who conquered us)
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Thanks for this...now everyone that comes and reads this thread is going to be just a tad bit dumber after reading that jibberish....
BTW the pads are what break bones....lmfao...you guys keep wearing skirts and we will continue to play real football....
And a Rugby ball is round???
Suck it soccer boys..
Oh and this retort is in now way a bash on the Bristish....just the dumb things that come out of their mouths at times....
BTW here in the great old USA...we use this thing called a dictionary...pretty self explanatory and makes your theory dead wrong in both defintions....
http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=football&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search
http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=ball&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search
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In.
My teams:
NFL: Miami Dolphins
NBA: Miami Heat
NCAA: Miami Hurricanes
MLB: Tampa Bay Ray
You can see a pattern here...Lol.
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Carla and you are going to get along real well when she gets here...try not to mention the Heat a lot to the Dr...he is still mad about that guy that left Cleveland to Miami....
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Present! Reppin' the Dallas Cowboys, Washington Wizards, Washington Capitals, Washington Nationals, and THE University of Ohio State Buckeyes!
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Present! Reppin' the Dallas Cowboys, Washington Wizards, Washington Capitals, Washington Nationals, and THE University of Ohio State Buckeyes!
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Yea,yea we know.....lol.....glad to see ya made it...guess I should put mine out
UM wolverines (all sports)
Philidelphia Flyers
Oakland Raiders
Tigers
Pistons....don't follow NBA as much as I used to though..
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flyers2114 said:
Thanks for this...now everyone that comes and reads this thread is going to be just a tad bit dumber after reading that jibberish....
BTW the pads are what break bones....lmfao...you guys keep wearing skirts and we will continue to play real football....
And a Rugby ball is round???
Suck it soccer boys..
Oh and this retort is in now way a bash on the Bristish....just the dumb things that come out of their mouths at times....
BTW here in the great old USA...we use this thing called a dictionary...pretty self explanatory and makes your theory dead wrong in both defintions....
http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=football&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search
http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=ball&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search
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wikipedia said:
The game of football is any of several similar team sports, of similar origins which involve, to varying degrees, kicking a ball with the foot in an attempt to score a goal. The most popular of these sports worldwide is association football, more commonly known as just "football" or "soccer". Unqualified, the word football applies to whichever form of football is the most popular in the regional context in which the word appears, including American football, Australian rules football, Canadian football, Gaelic football, rugby league, rugby union and other related games. These variations are known as "codes."
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^emphasis mine
I'll keep on troll-baiting, but the game is a bit hard to lose, isn't it?
Oh, and your links suck. They both say the same thing for me (or are they region-based?)
p/s: Keep it down. I'm just kidding, and you don't have to take offense
pp/s: But you did.
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^emphasis mine
I'll keep on troll-baiting, but the game is a bit hard to lose, isn't it?
Oh, and your links suck. They both say the same thing for me (or are they region-based?)
p/s: Keep it down. I'm just kidding, and you don't have to take offense
pp/s: But you did.
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Ok... link fail...but you could have easily punched it in...I always take offense....I have played hockey my whole life..and played football for 10....hahahahaha
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Ok... link fail...but you could have easily punched it in...I always take offense....I have played hockey my whole life..and played football for 10....hahahahaha
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Punch it in myself? And deprive the entire XDA of the comedic humour? I just copied the link and there it was
Speaking of football! Congratulations to the Green Bay Packers!
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Enough of this jibberish, let's get back on track. Lol.
I say Packers take it again next year. They are only going to get healthier, many of their star players will be back next year.
I think Patriots will make it from the AFC.
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Enough of this jibberish, let's get back on track. Lol.
I say Packers take it again next year. They are only going to get healthier, many of their star players will be back next year.
I think Patriots will make it from the AFC.
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Its to early for me to predict....off season moves and we shall see....Pack are tough....that's why I picked them vs Indy last preseason...I always make a preseason SB pick...
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I'm just hoping my Cleveland Cavs get a win .
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...i did not know Terrell Owens was in any given Sunday...
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Ok, so I need some opinions here...We had a discussion at work today where someone said that they pay you TO live in Alaska but someone else said they pay you BECAUSE you live there...And then the first person said that there's no difference in "Because" and "To"...
So, I will give you some info from Wikipedia and you let me know which one yall think is correct...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska
"Starting in 1982, dividends from the fund's annual growth have been paid out each year to eligible Alaskans, ranging from an initial $1,000.00 in 1982 (equal to three years' payout, as the distribution of payments was held up in a lawsuit over the distribution scheme) to $3,269.00 in 2008 (which included a one-time $1,200.00 "Resource Rebate"). Every year, the state legislature takes out 8 percent from the earnings, puts 3 percent back into the principal for inflation proofing, and the remaining 5 percent is distributed to all qualifying Alaskans. To qualify for the Permanent Fund Dividend, one must have lived in the state for a minimum of 12 months, maintain constant residency subject to allowable absences, and not be subject to court judgments or criminal convictions which fall under various disqualifying classifications or may subject the payment amount to civil garnishment."
'Because' is correct, if you qualify of course. 'To' suggests paying people to move there, in which case under the rules they wouldn't qualify anyway having not been a resident.
I want to live in Alaska. It is the most most beautiful corner of the world. Anybody remember the series 'Northern Exposure'?. Best setting for a TV show ever.
The problem with this idea is that you aren't the first one to have it. There are a ****ton of government leaches living in alaska. It also has the highest percentage of rapes and pedophilia per capita of any other state.
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The problem with this idea is that you aren't the first one to have it. There are a ****ton of government leaches living in alaska. It also has the highest percentage of rapes and pedophilia per capita of any other state.
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Trust me, i wouldn't be moving there for the 'qualities' of it's indiginous population. I'm long past the point where i can be surprised, or even care, about what the other inhabitants of this once beautiful planet think or do.
isn't it also the meth capital of the world?
best reason to live there, you have a chance with bristol palin
Don't forget the Spiders! I have a friend who lives there and she told me about the huge spiders that live everywhere...including in your bed. EAK! But it would be great to live in such a beautiful place.
Id love to love there, it's do beautiful. But everything that's going on,...... Sucks....
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Trolololol
watt9493 said:
Id love to love there, it's do beautiful. But everything that's going on,...... Sucks....
ADR6300
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Soooo....if you "love to love there" would you "live to live there" also?
And...of you love to love there...wouldn't that make you the most redundant person that ever lived?
And lastly.....if is "do beautiful" does that mean that you bit your tongue while saying that?
Just wondering
M_T_M said:
Soooo....if you "love to love there" would you "live to live there" also?
And...of you love to love there...wouldn't that make you the most redundant person that ever lived?
And lastly.....if is "do beautiful" does that mean that you bit your tongue while saying that?
Just wondering
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Ah mtm. I use swype. So sometimes it's confusing.
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thetinybus said:
isn't it also the meth capital of the world?
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Cheap drugs, who could resist?
TheRomMistress said:
Don't forget the Spiders! I have a friend who lives there and she told me about the huge spiders that live everywhere...including in your bed. EAK! But it would be great to live in such a beautiful place.
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I LOVE spiders. They'd be welcome to share my log cabin in the woods!
M_T_M said:
Soooo....if you "love to love there" would you "live to live there" also?
And...of you love to love there...wouldn't that make you the most redundant person that ever lived?
And lastly.....if is "do beautiful" does that mean that you bit your tongue while saying that?
Just wondering
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DirkGently1 said:
BLAH BLAH BLAH -snip
I want to live in Alaska. It is the most most beautiful corner of the world. Anybody remember the series 'Northern Exposure'?. Best setting for a TV show ever.
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I love Alaska, I have been there many times. But I currently live in Washington state, where Northern Exposure was filmed.
And the Permanent Resident Dividend Fund is just for the people that live there, as previously stated. The best part of Alaska (besides the fishing and hunting) is how backwards the whole state still is. They have open carry laws (meaning no permits needed to carry a firearm) and it is still common for people in the winter to leave their vehicles running while they grocery shop. Nobody steals them.
kdj67f said:
I love Alaska, I have been there many times. But I currently live in Washington state, where Northern Exposure was filmed.
And the Permanent Resident Dividend Fund is just for the people that live there, as previously stated. The best part of Alaska (besides the fishing and hunting) is how backwards the whole state still is. They have open carry laws (meaning no permits needed to carry a firearm) and it is still common for people in the winter to leave their vehicles running while they grocery shop. Nobody steals them.
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Where should i build my log cabin? (Think 'Grizzly Adams' if you're old enough). It has to be near a fresh water river or lake and far enough into the wilderness so that i never have to encounter another person for the rest of my days.
No internet, no phone, just a knife, gun and a blissful hunter/gatherer life.
DirkGently1 said:
Where should i build my log cabin? (Think 'Grizzly Adams' if you're old enough). It has to be near a fresh water river or lake and far enough into the wilderness so that i never have to encounter another person for the rest of my days.
No internet, no phone, just a knife, gun and a blissful hunter/gatherer life.
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No hunting dog?
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Scary Spiders...
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Don't forget the Spiders! I have a friend who lives there and she told me about the huge spiders that live everywhere...including in your bed. EAK! But it would be great to live in such a beautiful place.
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You want to see some SERIOUS spiders, you should be around those freakin Camel Spiders in Iraq. GAWD! Ya, I know everyone's seen the pics of them on the interwebs. But when I was there they scared the hell out of me, cuz they are really, really freakin fast. Walking a post at night, you would see a good sized shadow "flying" across the ground. Saw one once, run up another Marine's leg, and before he even knew it was on him, it was in between his shoulder blades, whoa!
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No hunting dog?
Sent using two tin cans and some string.....
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A dog would be nice but it'd end up eating all my food!
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You want to see some SERIOUS spiders, you should be around those freakin Camel Spiders in Iraq. GAWD! Ya, I know everyone's seen the pics of them on the interwebs. But when I was there they scared the hell out of me, cuz they are really, really freakin fast. Walking a post at night, you would see a good sized shadow "flying" across the ground. Saw one once, run up another Marine's leg, and before he even knew it was on him, it was in between his shoulder blades, whoa!
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Ninja spider?
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395315,00.asp#fbid=46CYcVkiOEC
Ultimately, though, Fadell's point of view won out. Apple acquired a couple of chip companies, PA Semi and Intrinsity, and created its own chips, the A4 and later A5. Jobs explains why he didn't go with Intel for the iPad and iPhone in the book.
"There were two reasons we did not go with them" he said. "One was that they are just really slow. They are like a steamship, not very flexible. We are used to going pretty fast. Second is that we just did not want to teach them everything, which they could go and sell to our competitors,"
Jobs also voiced other criticisms. He said Intel's "graphics suck" and that its processors don't have the same system-on-a-chip efficiencies of the A4/A5.
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Designed by Apple manufactured by Samsung, you don't see Apple or any other company give credit to Foxconn either so what's the difference here.
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Designed by Apple manufactured by Samsung, you don't see Apple or any other company give credit to Foxconn either so what's the difference here.
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Not to mention, it behooves Samsung to get along well with Apple to keep their lucrative business. No way would samsung disrupt that flow of money from Apple. Apple could smack Samsung around all day long, every day, and Sammy would overlook it just to keep the extreme Apple revenue coming.
Samsung might be stuck working with Apple as part of a contract. Regardless of the open lawsuits. I would love to see Samsung pull the rug out from under Apple and watch them squirm.
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Samsung might be stuck working with Apple as part of a contract. Regardless of the open lawsuits. I would love to see Samsung pull the rug out from under Apple and watch them squirm.
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I'm pretty sure Samsung makes more money on selling parts to Apple than they make on their mobile phones so that would not be int their best interest.
All of these statements by Jobs just remind me that he never got any official degree in anything and it shows.
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I'm pretty sure Samsung makes more money on selling parts to Apple than they make on their mobile phones so that would not be int their best interest.
All of these statements by Jobs just remind me that he never got any official degree in anything and it shows.
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Shows what? How huge he built Apple or his opinion on products that sells like hotcakes? You don't need a paper to tell you that you are smart.
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Shows what? How huge he built Apple or his opinion on products that sells like hotcakes? You don't need a paper to tell you that you are smart.
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Glad you said it because I was going to. I know and knew more intelligent and inventive people who never had a modern education than anyone who did have. The only thing a paper gives a person is an ego.
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Shows what? How huge he built Apple or his opinion on products that sells like hotcakes? You don't need a paper to tell you that you are smart.
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I'm not saying he wasn't smart, just uneducated in that he always acted in ways that were more consumer-like than professional. Definitely not in any way downplaying the role he had on shaping the industry to what it is today nor any of his achievements.
People tend to not remember where ARM originally came from. Maybe Steve forgot Apple sold its share of it.
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People tend to not remember where ARM originally came from. Maybe Steve forgot Apple sold its share of it.
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htcplussony said:
People tend to not remember where ARM originally came from. Maybe Steve forgot Apple sold its share of it.
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Are you saying Apple owned ARM? If so, I learn something new every day.
See the wiki for "ARM Holdings" on why ARM was created in the first place.
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See the wiki for "ARM Holdings" on why ARM was created in the first place.
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Wow! Samsung basically is using Apple technology in their chips. Not only Samsung, but also a great many other companies use Apple tech in their products. Samsung owes a lot to Apple and they repay them by ripping them off.
It has always been said the Asians do a good job of copying the hard work of Western civilized nations. Much of the technology in the world came from the USA.
Well to be honest the USA is a bully to any small nation really. E.g. Cuba they have so many doctors and scientists there that could sell their medicine around the world and prosper themselves, but nope, the USA still keep the embargo on them so they're practically stuck. Or Mexico or any third world country, big corporations to medium sized corporations, and even the government sometimes, tend to exploit the labour force in a third world country. Or did you read the article of where US scientists went to a south American country and exploited the populace by administering them STD's and other diseases in "hopes of finding a cure for another." (Note the people did not even know what the scientists were gong to do with them)
So why did I say the USA is a bully, well because of their bullying, they are practically leaving the smaller nations or less prosperous nations, heck even some 1st world countries too, stuck or unable to develop. And since they are unable to develop, they have no new findings. Hence why USA is one of the only nations to have new findings, because they are the ones who allow or disallow countries to prosper.
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Well to be honest the USA is a bully to any small nation really. E.g. Cuba they have so many doctors and scientists there that could sell their medicine around the world and prosper themselves, but nope, the USA still keep the embargo on them so they're practically stuck. Or Mexico or any third world country, big corporations to medium sized corporations, and even the government sometimes, tend to exploit the labour force in a third world country. Or did you read the article of where US scientists went to a south American country and exploited the populace by administering them STD's and other diseases in "hopes of finding a cure for another." (Note the people did not even know what the scientists were gong to do with them)
So why did I say the USA is a bully, well because of their bullying, they are practically leaving the smaller nations or less prosperous nations, heck even some 1st world countries too, stuck or unable to develop. And since they are unable to develop, they have no new findings. Hence why USA is one of the only nations to have new findings, because they are the ones who allow or disallow countries to prosper.
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Well, for one thing, your talking about what the governments do and politics. No politics allowed. I had a thread that wasn't about politics, but because someone decided it was, the thread was closed. So if you want this thread to remain open, keep the politics out.
Ah I see. Well I stated what I stated to simply disprove the implication that the USA is the greatest nation with the greatest minds.
But on topic now, that is pretty cool that Apple invented ARM.
Kailkti said:
Ah I see. Well I stated what I stated to simply disprove the implication that the USA is the greatest nation with the greatest minds.
But on topic now, that is pretty cool that Apple invented ARM.
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ARM existed long before Apple's involvement.
They were one of the major RISC cpu developers.
All that happened was Apple needed a cpu for the Newton (remember that? Many people don't), ARM's RISC processor was nearly up to the job but they didn't have the financial resources to get it there, so Apple invested in them and they created a new company.
Apple provided money and the requirements, ARM and VLSI continued to design and create the CPUs.
For instance, many Brits will remember the BBC Master (first to use an ARM processor in certain models in 86, I miss those orange function keys) and Archimedes/A series, and the horrible RiscPC (powerful computer with very little software support that with "a flick of a switch" could be turned into a P60 dog with lots of software but not the grunt to run it, so basically the worst of both worlds).
I grew up with the BBC B with a sideways ROM/RAM board giving 48KB rather than the standard 32KB
Apple had been unsuccessful at getting into the UK Education market so attempted to ride on the back of Acron and set up Xemplar Software. It failed and they relocated to Eire after Acron sold their shares. I know several people who worked for Xemplar at the time.
By then ARM had long realised that it needed to expand the use of it's processors as schools were moving on to PCs, hence why they branched out into set top boxes for satelite and cable, and mobile devices.
fact trivia
1st ARM CPU = MOS 6502
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology_6502
ARM = Acorn RISC Machine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM
6502 is truly going back. Not sure I really want to remember the Vic 20/C64 days.
Ahhh oki. Thanks for clearing that up.
Apple Wins Touch Screen Patents including, electronic lists, multi touch, moving icons, pinch to zoom, and more...
More details below:
http://www.acsyndicate.net/apple-aw...ts-the-possible-end-of-android-as-we-know-it/
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WTF
Sent from your phone you lost the game.
F*** Apple.
Not a big deal really. the judge made a stupid decision, as pointed out in the article, there is a lot of prior art from various companies long before Apple's touch system. It may takes years fighting it out in court, but almost all of this is certain to get overturned in the end as companies who fought each other before will band together to fight this.
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Not a big deal really. the judge made a stupid decision, as pointed out in the article, there is a lot of prior art from various companies long before Apple's touch system. It may takes years fighting it out in court, but almost all of this is certain to get overturned in the end as companies who fought each other before will band together to fight this.
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That's how I feel about it too. It's like the judge granting Apple a patent for having a rechargeable battery in their phone, or a headphone jack.
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Not a big deal really. the judge made a stupid decision, as pointed out in the article, there is a lot of prior art from various companies long before Apple's touch system. It may takes years fighting it out in court, but almost all of this is certain to get overturned in the end as companies who fought each other before will band together to fight this.
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I don't see anyone banning together. Samsung will stand alone, HTC will watch as they spend millions fighting. Same with Google. They talk a talk, but have yet to see them setup up and help. They won't until Motorola gets sued. Apple won't touch moto, though.
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This is sooooo last week!! LOL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785833
85gallon said:
This is sooooo last week!! LOL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785833
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I was wondering how new the story is if acs is picking it up.
Sent from your phone you lost the game.
I remember reading about it already, I guess I'm just so numb from all the Apple legal stuff it doesn't phase me anymore.
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I don't see anyone banning together. Samsung will stand alone, HTC will watch as they spend millions fighting. Same with Google. They talk a talk, but have yet to see them setup up and help. They won't until Motorola gets sued. Apple won't touch moto, though.
Sent from your phone you lost the game.
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You're right, that's how it's been working. If it does get to the point that Samsung can't win in court though I see everyone else joining in before they just close up shop. What other option is there? Besides paying Apple royalties I guess..
Apple is a vile corporation :banghead:
Shame the world is under its poisonous spell to realize this.
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Yay! Another judge falls prey to the "reality distortion field" Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
//sarcasm
Throwing bricks since 2008.....and proud of it.
To show you how ridiculous these patents can be, Boeing owns the patent on part of physics. That's right, the laws of nature. Sir Isaac Newton type stuff.
Not sure how it turned out in the end, but a satellite was launched and had a malfunction. It was to be used bt Dish Network but the orbit wasn't high enough. So the company that owned the satellite was going to use the engines to push it around the moon. Thus using the gravitational field of the moon to slingshot it into a higher orbit. There was not enough fuel on board to directly move it into a higher orbit.
Well guess what? Boeing owned the patent on the procedure. This is ****ing physics for christ's sake. And Boeing claimed ownership of the moon's gravity field. At one point the satellite gave up because Boeing was extorting them to drop a lawsuit. Not sure if they ever worked things out. Boeing refused to let the company use the patent because the company was suing Boeing on other matters and would only allow the procedure if the company dropped the suit.
Link...
http://www.space-travel.com/reports...n_AMC_14_Lunar_Flyby_Salvage_Attempt_999.html
I'll just leave this here.
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As a brilliant comedian by the name of Lee Evans once said, "They've had touch screen technology for years. Just go down to the over night garage at 2 in the morning and see all the pissheads tapping on the glass asking for ginsters." The patent obviously belongs to all the world's pissheads :')
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I'll just leave this here.
Sent from my coffee pot.
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You must have a very nice coffee pot... what version of xdaMocha HD are you running??
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This is sooooo last week!! LOL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785833
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Just providing what I can as to more details...
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You must have a very nice coffee pot... what version of xdaMocha HD are you running??
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I can't say. I don't want Crapple to claim it as their own.
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crApple can't get away with this. Nokia, Microsoft, Sony, and a lot more manufacturers has touch screen long before Steve B. Jobs had thoughts of making the iCrap. Giants like Microsoft can't sit and watch while crApple coins something that is clearly not theirs not their invention, and existed before they used it.
These judges that grant crApple these patents are either retarded, high, get money from crApple or all at once.
I wish I could buy crApple, so I could flush iCrap down the toilet, and make Fag OS open source. And then sell the company to Google.
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I'll tell you one thing, after reading that post...
Snapple beverage corporation better think about a Cranberry/Apple mix. Because it already has a name.
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m1l4droid said:
crApple can't get away with this. Nokia, Microsoft, Sony, and a lot more manufacturers has touch screen long before Steve B. Jobs had thoughts of making the iCrap. Giants like Microsoft can't sit and watch while crApple coins something that is clearly not theirs not their invention, and existed before they used it.
These judges that grant crApple these patents are either retarded, high, get money from crApple or all at once.
I wish I could buy crApple, so I could flush iCrap down the toilet, and make Fag OS open source. And then sell the company to Google.
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Steve B. Jobs? Ah - Steve Blow Jobs .
THIS IS A SOCIAL EXPERIMENT ! I WILL TELL YOU WHAT IT MEANS IN A FEW DAYS
IF somebody would pay you to go to prison for Auto theft 1 year , what would be your price?
Please make a realistic amount as possible, lets see what people think about it
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About $1mil if I was taking the blame, cause of charges stacking up while I'm away, plus pay for taking the blame.
If everyone new I was innocent, and I was doing a anonymous review of the prisons or something where people who knew me knew I was innocent and I was just in for the money, $500,000 sounds fair.
Interested what this means though.
On the charges of grand theft? Hell No.
It's not so much the prison sentence that bothers me as the fact that you'll forever have to deal with the criminal record. You'll never get a visa to enter half the countries in the world, you'll never get a decent job again, it'll affect your family, your friends, your kids, your grandkids...
12 of my friends are police officers and detectives. Their association with me would cost them their careers, their jobs and their reputation. They've never done anything to deserve that.
Not worth it.
Even if it earns you 500 million, that money is just as illegal and will just land you in prison again and you'll never see the money.
Besides, 98% of people here wouldn't survive a week in prison.
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On the charges of grand theft? Hell No.
It's not so much the prison sentence that bothers me as the fact that you'll forever have to deal with the criminal record. You'll never get a visa to enter half the countries in the world, you'll never get a decent job again, it'll affect your family, your friends, your kids, your grandkids...
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I'm not really interested in going overseas and work is in demand so I don't believe a criminal record would affect me too much. Besides, it's only 1 year in prison, so the crime wasn't too major.
If out was murder or life sentence or something like that, I would agree with you.
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Even if it earns you 500 million, that money is just as illegal and will just land you in prison again and you'll never see the money.
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HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION ALERT! Your thinking a little too deeply. It's a social experiment, not a life and death situation.
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I'm not really interested in going overseas and work is in demand so I don't believe a criminal record would affect me too much. Besides, it's only 1 year in prison, so the crime wasn't too major.
If out was murder or life sentence or something like that, I would agree with you.
HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION ALERT! Your thinking a little too deeply. It's a social experiment, not a life and death situation.
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What's a point of an experiment if the answers are all fake? The results are only suited for the rubbish-bin if it's a 'in a perfect world' settings.
OP wanted serious answers, not 'It's a videogame, and nothing you do matters'.
The whole idea of a social experiment is to get an idea of what people would do in real life. As such these are entirely unsuited for the internet, because everyone lies. Everyone thinks they're tough, smart and invincible. Nobody wants to admit they're a 40 year old sitting at home with their wife yelling at them to take out the thrash, or a 16 year old who isn't even allowed to drive yet. No, they're all Rambo.
I'm speaking of bachelor/phd level jobs, not streetcleaners. Even low-level work, nearly every job here requires a socalled 'declaration of good behavior'. (Even cleaning offices and schools). If you've got a criminal record, you can't supply that document and you're not legally able to get the job.
Western Europe's not as accepting of crime as other parts of the world. In the USA you can become a politician with a criminal record. Here you can't even become lorry driver.
As for not going overseas, I want to visit Australia, New Zealand and Canada at least once in my life. You're not welcome there with a GTA charge, nor any criminal charge for that matter.
15 million dollars distributed as monthly payments over 15 years and adjusted for inflation every year.
Freedom is piceless...
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ShadowLea said:
Western Europe's not as accepting of crime as other parts of the world. In the USA you can become a politician with a criminal record. Here you can't even become lorry driver.
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Ok, well I guess that's why our answers are different. In Australia a criminal record does not mean your lifes over, though you can't do certain jobs like a police officer or school teacher. Of course your unlikely to be chosen for the job against someone with the same qualifications, work ethic etc, but no criminal record, but the job I do is specialized, without enough people in the industry, and in no way relies on me to work with children, dangerous explosives etc, so I believe that a small criminal record would not affect me too much.
Besides we were all convicts anyway ?
Different situations, different people, different answers.
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As for not going overseas, I want to visit Australia, New Zealand and Canada at least once in my life. You're not welcome there with a GTA charge, nor any criminal charge for that matter.
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I recommend you visit Australia, it's a great place. When your in New Zealand, make lots of sheep jokes ?
I have relatives in New Zealand.
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Money is money.
Besides its only one year locked up.
If somebody paid me to go to prison? Sure I could for, depends on for how long.
But seriously, he would have to pay me up front, then I would hire a judge to get him into prison!
And that's how we roll
haha, I would sell my soul fro money, no way. I'm a good girl
That's easy... An Emma Watson kiss :highfive:
I wouldn't go if it's me going. But if a friend asked me to assume his identity for a million euros, I'd do it. I'd get out a year later with my record clean and a million euros richer! ?
$60,000 paid all at once upon my release, I'd do it.
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I agree with @ShadowLea .
No one here would even survive one week prison.
Basically are almost all the developers here big thinkers, big talkers but they are having a small physical performance in real life.
I won't do it also.
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I stand by my answer, but that's because I already live outside the typical 'norms' of society. I have a job that only requires that I possess the guts and skills to do the job, and that I show up consistently and do it. I'm a roofer. When I get out, people will still need roofs. I don't pay taxes, I don't vote or ask permission to travel, domestically or abroad. I do what I do, and I don't let anyone, including the government, get in my way. I help others before myself. I expect nothing, tomorrow is not guaranteed, so every waking moment is a blessing. A year in prison would not be the worst thing that's ever happened to me by far. I could use a large sum of money to do some really interesting and worthwhile things.
Most XDA'ers probably would have a really tough time spending a year in prison. For me, it wouldn't be so tough. If it's a prison near me, I probably already know a few people there. It's 3 hots & a cot for a year, with a knot of cash at the end of it. Sign me up, I'll smuggle a smartphone in up my butt to stay entertained in my cell lol.
Jk bout the cell phone up my butt
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I would never do this because I could not enjoy the cash earned. Life is short you know.
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I would never do this because I could not enjoy the cash earned. Life is short you know.
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Well sayd there.. short and priceless. But with 5 millions .. i'll do some jail joking
A bit like @huggs, I believe I would be tough enough to stand prison. I'm not some weak developer who lives on the couch of an apartment 24/7. I live in the country, on a farm, I know how to defend myself.
I have nothing against generalisations, but don't use them to describe everyone.
Anyway, @JeremyMartin139, when will you reveal what it means?
Mmm... I sell my freedom for immortality xD