PS3 games? - Off-topic

Anyone got any good PS3 games they'd like to reccomend? Just finished Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of Patriots, kinda sad that Snake died :'(
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You're a little late on the MGS4
If you enjoyed the stealth aspect of MGS4 you'll probably like Deus Ex Human Revolution.
If you like RPGs Fallout:New Vegas Game Of the Year came out recently and it includes all the DLC plus the base game for less than the cost of the DLC.

Completed it again on Extreme for kicks
I think I'll let the thread run for a while, see what I get! (Your suggestions were pretty cool, might check 'em out
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Ninja Gaiden Sigma. It's a greatest hit now so it should only be $20 brand new.
God of War III. Definitely worth at least one playthrough.
One of the new versions of Street Fighter.
Dead Space 1&2

Uncharted, all of them. They're the only games that really push your console to its boundaries, and show what it can do. Of course they are good games otherwise too.
If you like racing games, then I recommend Gran Turismo 5, it's a great driving simulator with a LOT of stuff. Car info and prices are quite realistic, and so is the driving itself.
Also, if you care for arcade style race more, the check out Need for Speed Shift 1 and 2. They're also pretty good, just different.
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ArmorD said:
Uncharted, all of them. They're the only games that really push your console to its boundaries, and show what it can do. Of course they are good games otherwise too.
If you like racing games, then I recommend Gran Turismo 5, it's a great driving simulator with a LOT of stuff. Car info and prices are quite realistic, and so is the driving itself.
Also, if you care for arcade style race more, the check out Need for Speed Shift 1 and 2. They're also pretty good, just different.
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Same here, Uncharted No question. I saw the preview for Uncharted 3, then looked up 2, then grabbed 2, After I read the reviews, I picked up the first one. Played all 3 in order. OMG I would of gotten a PS3 just for that series. There is nothing like it on the 360 (and I am a much bigger 360 fan than PS3)
Check out the preview for "The last of us", from the same makers as Uncharted, but, this is a game that I will have on release day, it looks that good...
If you like different cop type of games, Heavy Rain is a big one for the system and got great reviews.
You could always do the shooter games, Black Ops, MW3, great games, no question but, they are cross platform. I also enjoyed Max Payne 3 (good story if you like Max Payne, I did play the 360 version tho)

Two ther epic games are inFamous & inFamous 2. That is one of THE best games ever made for a console. ;-) Why have all the best characters gotta die? !
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Batman Arkham Asylum
Batman Arkham City
Uncharted Drake's Fortune
Uncharted 2 Among Thieves
Uncharted 3 Drake's Deception
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time
If you want to yell at your TV and want to curse that you bought a PS3 ... play Ninja Gaiden Sigma ... I can't even give that game away because everyone returns it after playing it. It is sooo freaking hard.
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Assassin's creed...Uncharted..Infamous...GOD OF WAR!!!!(ALLLL!!!)

Currently playing a lot of starhawk though it still needs work. Looking forward to naughty dogs new title 'The last of us'
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I'm a big fan of Battlefield 3(BF in general) too. PC players say it's not a game for consoles, but I disagree. Sure it's better on PC(64P and HC graphics), but you can't say it's not good for PS3. Love that game. Way better than CoD IMO. Don't like playing with 8yr old kids!
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Wanted to get BF3 when it came out but got sucked into skyrim. i know im missing out but feel its a little late to jump in now.
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distilicious said:
Wanted to get BF3 when it came out but got sucked into skyrim. i know im missing out but feel its a little late to jump in now.
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Why? They've only released two extensions and there are still three to come(total of 5). Next Battlefield will be released in min. year.
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Both BioShock games are really good, the first one has an AMAZING story and the second one lets you dual wield so the gameplay is better. The Portal Games are really good too if you like puzzles, the first one is on The Orange Box which is a great value! It has the Half Life games on it, they are sweet games if you like oldschool style FPS. For upcoming games check out Watch Dogs, Dishonored, and BioShock Infinite.

Battlefield 3 was great until all the worthless updates. CQ is every COD lovers wet dream, people are whoring aim assist, and a number of tweaks have just made the game utterly ridiculous. I will not be buying anymore battle sims in the near future it seems. The game is not anywhere near as fun as it used to be.
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MissionImprobable said:
Battlefield 3 was great until all the worthless updates. CQ is every COD lovers wet dream, people are whoring aim assist, and a number of tweaks have just made the game utterly ridiculous. I will not be buying anymore battle sims in the near future it seems. The game is not anywhere near as fun as it used to be.
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I don't understand... The tweaking and updates are only released to balance the game. Practically, there are no over powered weapons due to the active updating. CoD is only updated when there is really really something wrong, a huge bug or something. DICE updates the game to make it fun for every one.
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Why? They've only released two extensions and there are still three to come(total of 5). Next Battlefield will be released in min. year.
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Im new to the series besides 1943 when it came out on psn years ago. and i feel late as the skill gap might make for a miserable experience starting out. was interested because of the beta.
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As this thread started out as a specific "advise me of new PS3 games", I didn't see the need to point people at the existing gaming thread. It's now become pretty much what that thread is so I suggest people go there to carry on discussing this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279620
Incidentally, Max Payne 3 is awesome
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Off topic....mw3!!

How many of you guys are getting mw3?? I for one cannot wait to midnight, especially with bf3 being such a huge let down for me.
if you are, please post what system you are getting it for and what your gamertag.
Maybe we can get a XDA clan going!!!
Already pre-ordered through steam, just waiting till midnight to install
Tomorrow for ps3... Havent preordered
cant play at midnight i have school ... Already missed 22 days...
Psn is xSaint_x ... I think
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Can't wait! Gametag: perfectprescript
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im on PS3. My GT is ASSASSIN_1911
make sure you guys add me if your on ps3. I take this **** seriously!!
Xbox, preordered thru amazon, going to get it tomm
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I rather just play battlefield 3 its way better that my opinion sorry
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Preordered already!
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Preorder for ps3
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tech7 said:
I rather just play battlefield 3 its way better that my opinion sorry
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i wanted to feel that way, but was disappointed by the console version. graphics not that great, too many glitches. Horrible enemy AI in single player
i'm personally loving bf3.
i'm waiting to see what people say about mw3. i felt really burned after all the glitching and hacking in mw2 and with infinity ward gone i'm still not quite sure if that's a good or bad thing.
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i'm personally loving bf3.
i'm waiting to see what people say about mw3. i felt really burned after all the glitching and hacking in mw2 and with infinity ward gone i'm still not quite sure if that's a good or bad thing.
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agreed. they say MW3 is supposed to be much more balanced than mw2. If its a mix between the graphics of mw2 and gameplay of black ops, ill be in heaven.
i only play hardcore modes though, not that run and gun **** of regular modes. alot more skill involved with hardcore
i was honestly set on bf3. Until i realized that all of the videos were from the pc version and not the console version. ive read hundreds of reviews on it, many from bf2 players, and ive decided to get mw3 instead
I can't decide between mw3 and battlefield
Battlefield is fun, but I've always been more of a CoD fan. I got BF3 and I will be getting MW3 tomorrow. Then, Skyrim on Friday. Sucks because I'll be at work all night while Skyrim waits on my doorstep.
Had the game for the past 4 days. Haven't played much. F U work. Mw3 is a improvement. Much better game. Bf3 is sluggish, I have bf3 btw
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Overstew said:
Battlefield is fun, but I've always been more of a CoD fan. I got BF3 and I will be getting MW3 tomorrow. Then, Skyrim on Friday. Sucks because I'll be at work all night while Skyrim waits on my doorstep.
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skyrim?? im gonna have to check that out I havent heard of it yet
MW3
I never pre-order games, but definitly getting MW3.
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I never pre-order games, but definitly getting MW3.
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me either but if you preordred you get the pick your perk thing
Success100 said:
How many of you guys are getting mw3?? I for one cannot wait to midnight, especially with bf3 being such a huge let down for me.
if you are, please post what system you are getting it for and what your gamertag.
Maybe we can get a XDA clan going!!!
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Agreed, BF3 feels scaled down... I was expecting grand battles but after play time it feel COD with not much fear oh vehicles ...
Anyways, Got BF3 and getting MW3
PS3 - STruC
Btw, toys r us promo good until November 10th for Xbox or PS3:
Buy 1 $59.99 game and receive $15 gift card
Buy 2 $59.99 game and receive $40 gift card
Gamestop is feeling garbage with their power crappy rewards
I've purchased almost $600 and their most enticing reward is a $3 PSN store credit? GTFOOH!
MW3!! Xbox baby! (x
Lots of ps3 fans here huh?
I played through some of the story already with a buddy of mine that got an early copy and in my opinion it is and improvement over mw2 and black ops and its much better than bf3 (which I own)
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Sony PS Vita is horrible.

Now I say that but I really can't put my finger on why I think it sucks. I used mine for three days then returned it. I was annoyed with lack of battery life, I thought the games were similar to psp games. Holding it was odd and the screen was sub par to samsung's amoled. I was so excited to love this thing, oh well I'm done venting.
This doesn't surprise me. Their portable playstation line has never been as great as I hoped it would be. The same goes for their smartphones for that matter. Always look awesome before release, but then not so great afterwards.
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slapshot30 said:
This doesn't surprise me. Their portable playstation line has never been as great as I hoped it would be. The same goes for their smartphones for that matter. Always look awesome before release, but then not so great afterwards.
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Sucks doesn't it? Quad core bla bla bla and bam crap with everything propriety. Sony might be headed towards that slow RIM type slop to bankruptcy.
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Sucks doesn't it? Quad core bla bla bla and bam crap with everything propriety. Sony might be headed towards that slow RIM type slop to bankruptcy.
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I dunno. I hadn't serious looked at their phones before but considering that they communicate with devs and what-not and actually release beta roms I have been scoping them out a bit. Not quite ready to jump ship, but we'll see what happens.
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Now I say that but I really can't put my finger on why I think it sucks. I used mine for three days then returned it. I was annoyed with lack of battery life, I thought the games were similar to psp games. Holding it was odd and the screen was sub par to samsung's amoled. I was so excited to love this thing, oh well I'm done venting.
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Matter of taste. Love my psp i use it way more then my ds. And what model vita 3g wifi? Settings? Games? You gave no real info on why it sucks other then you thought it sucks. Its neginning library is going to suck thats how its always been with ps. Ps1 had no good launch games, ps2 didnt really have any, psp didn't have any and ps3 didn't have any so you based your hole experience off of three days when so far it looks like it only has one good game (uncharted)?
Not trying to sound like a jerk but really? Haven't got it yet and it will be sometime before i get one but yeah not ready to jump on board it sucks for no reason train just yet.
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Its a shame that you have only given it 3 days.. everyone knows that newly released gaming platforms are quite unutilised in the early stages.
I dont think it will be long before games companies will really start to take advantage of the vita capabilities and we will see some exciting games
You people and your biased minds.....
Sold my PSP2000 for a Vita and am loving it .
Herpderp Defy.
densetsu86 said:
Ps1 had no good launch games, ps2 didnt really have any, psp didn't have any and ps3 didn't have any
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Best game I've ever had on the PS3, for both visuals and playability, came out on launch day and was indeed the first game I ever played on it - Motorstorm. Like you said - matter of taste.
Sorry, but your an idiot! You gave it 3 days and you think its crap? very bad....
please keep your smartphone for gaming like a nerd and leave the PS Vita alone...
better for us.
I bought it on day 1, and im absolutely surprised and i Love it soooo much!
Much more than any other console i had.
THIS DEVICE IS A BEAST! Just wait for good Games like Kingdom Hearts, god of War, Gta, ect.
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Sorry, but your an idiot! You gave it 3 days and you think its crap? very bad....
please keep your smartphone for gaming like a nerd and leave the PS Vita alone...
better for us.
I bought it on day 1, and im absolutely surprised and i Love it soooo much!
Much more than any other console i had.
THIS DEVICE IS A BEAST! Just wait for good Games like Kingdom Hearts, god of War, Gta, ect.
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Did you just call this guy a nerd?....
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Methisfaction said:
Sorry, but your an idiot! You gave it 3 days and you think its crap? very bad....
please keep your smartphone for gaming like a nerd and leave the PS Vita alone...
better for us.
I bought it on day 1, and im absolutely surprised and i Love it soooo much!
Much more than any other console i had.
THIS DEVICE IS A BEAST! Just wait for good Games like Kingdom Hearts, god of War, Gta, ect.
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You need to calm down its just an opinion. If your OK with mediocracy then rock on.
densetsu86 said:
Matter of taste. Love my psp i use it way more then my ds. And what model vita 3g wifi? Settings? Games? You gave no real info on why it sucks other then you thought it sucks. Its neginning library is going to suck thats how its always been with ps. Ps1 had no good launch games, ps2 didnt really have any, psp didn't have any and ps3 didn't have any so you based your hole experience off of three days when so far it looks like it only has one good game (uncharted)?
Not trying to sound like a jerk but really? Haven't got it yet and it will be sometime before i get one but yeah not ready to jump on board it sucks for no reason train just yet.
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I love PSP the vital sucks though
I forgot about motorstorm.. that was pretty awesome
Looking forward to the vita release
Honestly don't think many gaming companies will jump on the Vita.
Smart phones and consoles is where the money is at.
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I love me some vita.. The best investment I made gaming wise in a while.
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I bought the PSP 2000 near release and absolutely loved it. I installed a custom firmware so I could play emulators (which was great), watch YouTube, etc. It was probably some of the best $$$ I had ever spent, because I used it for years.
I do not play on purchasing the PSP Vita, though. I don't think it'll be a failure or anything, I just don't see the need of it. I do all my on-the-go gaming on my phone. I know there is no "hardcore" games like Uncharted or anything, but more casual on-the-go fun games is what I favor.
Just my personal opinion, though.
I haven't come to a conclusion yet. It doesn't feel like the PSP when I'm holding it. I think that's throwing me off more than anything.
Currently playing Uncharted.
I am loving mine, I had a PSP-1000. I got mine fully updated to 2.00, way back when. I knew I was going to get the Vita when I saw the first trailer for it. I bought it thinking it was all ready a month or two old in the states, but oh well. I am looking forward to the Gravity Rush game looks awesome! I don't have uncharted but I am not a big Playstation guy, so I am new to the series. Worth getting? It just likes like a Prince of Persia like game.
I bought my PS3 the month it was released.I think it cost me some 600€.Back then I was like 12 or 13 years old,so it was money collected through the course of a whole year.I was really disappointed at first.Fast forwarding to February 28th of 2012,these 600€ are my best spent money,along with the 500€ I parted with for my Galaxy S 2,which too disappointed me at first,only to amaze me thrice as much afterwards.As Azrienoch says,that's the moral of the news!Don't judge any device from your first impressions with it.It's likely to be a wrong impression,because it's something different than what you're used to.Just a friendly word of advice.
Still,I'm waiting to see whether it'll fare well with remote play from the PS3.If I can play my PS3 games on it through wifi/etc,I'm sold.(checks wallet...)Well,maybe not yet.
It is a great device. The launch lineup is also very good, I think the best launch lineup ever. My only complain is the mediocre browser and lack of folders in the menus.

Blood and Glory

I'm hoping I don't get **** for this, but since it's about an app it should be fine.
Anyways, I tried out Blood and Glory today and it's pretty damn awesome. For those who haven't heard of it, it's pretty much like Infinity Blade on iOS. Graphics aren't as good, but they're still pretty impressive.
For those who HAVE heard of it, what are your thoughts on it?
I've played it and many similar but I'd rather just play mw2 on my xbox or any other game on it. I don't game too much on my phone but racing games have entertained me most on it. I could see how people would like it though.
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I've played it and many similar but I'd rather just play mw2 on my xbox or any other game on it. I don't game too much on my phone but racing games have entertained me most on it. I could see how people would like it though.
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Yeah. I wish they had more racing games, Hot Pursuit is the only decent one aside from the messed up car sounds.
Real Racing 2 was good but buggy compared to the iOS version. I had my hopes up for it but oh well.
Just uninstalled it last nite.......got sick of the stupid ad notifications that show up in the status bar every morning or whenever u run the game! Too annoying.
It is good game, but I preffer to buy gam than to pay later for this in-app ****. You can play for free for a while but then I discovered I will have to spend lots of money to finish this game (20$ or more...)
i play till end..this is a good game
and all free
I will give a try
i play zenonia4 now and im very pleasure with this , but i will give a try
I like it. I play it every now and then.
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I just think every device should have a gaming thread to share awesome games you play. My favorites are
Fifa 14
Gta San Andreas
Plants vs. Zombies 2
Bloons tower defense 5
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Current addictions follow.
Titanfall - I don't even use the mechs. I prefer to rodeo them
APB - All Points Bulletin, free to play shooter. Pretty much GTA online. Extremely addicting.
And when I get bored with those two.
Terraria - Sprites>polygons
Tf2 - Team fortress two. Usually drunk as hell when I play this.
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I'm on a Metroid and Oddworld frenzy right now so I've been using emulators. Also +1 on San Andreas. I play chess on Chess Time, its multiplayer cross platform and a really great chess app. Its free with ads but adfree handles that for me. My name on there is SpasticMonkey if anyone wants to get a game going.
LG G2 ftw
Flop full is a fun game
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Been using emulator as well, Kingdom Hearts : BBS, Ocarina of time, Crisis Core, God of War and some old school Arcade Games and about android game itself Spider Man Unlimited, Lost Bubble
It's been a while but I'm reviving this thread.
I've been looking for a fun rpg lately that doesn't require in app purchases to enjoy.
I've tried order and chaos and after getting to level 17 I'm now thinking it's getting a bit slow. It's hard to do anything without using actual money from there. I don't mind buying games but I hate iap because they're never enough you always need to spend more.
I saw other similar ones like avable online but I don't want to get into one and then end up deleting it,
So let me know, thanks
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So anybody?
Not many gamers on g2?
Recently all I've played was clash of clans but I've gotten kinda bored with it and really want some good rpg.
Order and chaos is great but it's pretty much pay for anything good, avable online had really nice graphics but the interface was lacking and the menus are pretty bad and also things didn't show up until you came really close to them while in order and chaos you can see things from a farther distance.
Ive heard good things about arcane legends so it's the next in my list to try but it looks really cartoony. I'm still gonna try it considering all the positive reviews.
If anyone found a really good one please let me know because there's way too many to try each one at a time
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Tentacles by Microsoft is a good time killer
All Zelda Games
The new Wolfenstein: New Order game is so amazing. I've playing it a few times.
DOTA and Heroes Of The Storm
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Surprised no one's started this one yet. Just a thread for gamers to post what's working and what isn't. Also, to share about any titles that you particularly love. I'm always on the look out for new high quality games. I love FPS and RPG. Not a big fan of strategy which kinda sucks cuz there's SO many out there. Anyway, once I get mine (should be Monday), I'm loading up Deus Ex: The Fall, NOVA 3, Modern Combat 4 (and maybe 5), maybe a couple of Final Fantasy ones, the Bard's Tale, Iesabel, Dead Trigger 2, Temple Run, Super hexagon, Fluid SE, Playstation emu, GBA emu, and whatever else I'm not remembering right now. Anyone else have good ideas? Or other games I should try? Can't wait for Exiles to come out--that's the new massive single player RPG by the same people who gave us Ravesword Shadowlands.
Anyway, thanks for sharing!!
check out the Kingdom Rush series. their latest was just released last night and it's fun as hell.
I bought xcom enemy within last week on my Note 3. I intended to play it on a road trip this week, but they don't support Nexus 6. I copied it over from a titanium backup and restored it, and it runs, but the graphics in the gameplay are really messed up. So I bought Icewind Dale to play instead. It seems to work. Never played it back in the day so looking forward to it.
XModgames does not work at all for me, I am rooted. Anyone else have luck?
Soul Calibur runs great on this phone! Also, it is on sale for $4!
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Surprised no one's started this one yet. Just a thread for gamers to post what's working and what isn't. Also, to share about any titles that you particularly love. I'm always on the look out for new high quality games. I love FPS and RPG. Not a big fan of strategy which kinda sucks cuz there's SO many out there. Anyway, once I get mine (should be Monday), I'm loading up Deus Ex: The Fall, NOVA 3, Modern Combat 4 (and maybe 5), maybe a couple of Final Fantasy ones, the Bard's Tale, Iesabel, Dead Trigger 2, Temple Run, Super hexagon, Fluid SE, Playstation emu, GBA emu, and whatever else I'm not remembering right now. Anyone else have good ideas? Or other games I should try? Can't wait for Exiles to come out--that's the new massive single player RPG by the same people who gave us Ravesword Shadowlands.
Anyway, thanks for sharing!!
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Try Modern Combat 5. It has some intensive graphics. It lagged on G3 a big time. So thinking about its performance on Nexus 6. I've pre-ordered my Nexus 6 but it's yet to come. Here it'll launch on the 2nd week of December
U know, it's weird. I played that game on the lg G3 and it ran GREAT. Thing is, I'm not to crazy about the changes they made from part 4. These super short missions, with specific goals u have to complete. It just seems too controlled. I like part 3 and 4--it's a bit more "open" to however u want to play. Just kill everyone and don't die...lol. Seems simpler. I think they tried to make it too much like dead trigger 2 and the execution wasn't as great. It could just be me--I don't know. You're right about the graphics tho, they are awesome.
EDIT: I meant to quote the post above mine about MC 5. Don't know why it didn't work.
Haven't gotten mine yet. Can someone check to see if Mass Effect Infiltrator is compatible? I liked that game but haven't been able to play it in a while because of incompatibilities.
b.huss2 said:
Haven't gotten mine yet. Can someone check to see if Mass Effect Infiltrator is compatible? I liked that game but haven't been able to play it in a while because of incompatibilities.
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No it's not compatible
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b.huss2 said:
Haven't gotten mine yet. Can someone check to see if Mass Effect Infiltrator is compatible? I liked that game but haven't been able to play it in a while because of incompatibilities.
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U know, it's so ridiculous what EA has done (or more appropriately, hasn't done) with this game. I've had sooooo many devices that I don't remember the last one it worked on but I kno it hasn't worked for a LONG time for me on A LOT of devices. Really sucks cuz it was a good game. If u ask me EA is being really stupid. If they updated it, it would still be selling.
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U know, it's so ridiculous what EA has done (or more appropriately, hasn't done) with this game. I've had sooooo many devices that I don't remember the last one it worked on but I kno it hasn't worked for a LONG time for me on A LOT of devices. Really sucks cuz it was a good game. If u ask me EA is being really stupid. If they updated it, it would still be selling.
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I know, same here. I don't remember the last device it worked on. I like console quality games like this. It's a shame they put something out there so good and just move on to something else and leave us hangin. It wouldn't be so bad but really good games are few and far between.
U mean any EA games will not run on our nexus 6 ??? Daam !!!!!! Thts unfair
Any soln for that ?
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umair shaikh said:
U mean any EA games will not run on our nexus 6 ??? Daam !!!!!! Thts unfair
Any soln for that ?
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Not all EA games. I'm only talking about mass effect infiltrator.
Hey all. Just got crescent moons new RPG, exiles. Its a SciFi themed ravensword shadowlands. It's available through one of their humble bundle packages. Just Google it, if interested.
EDIT: been playing it and it's still buggy... It's an alpha tho.
Got my nexus today! So far......
Star wars commander
Injustice gods among us
Nova 3 - *edit* - played fine but come back later to play more and would not start.
Need for speed most wanted
Castle of illusions
All work fine.
Ah! The horror... Temple run doesn't work!
I downloaded Grand Theft Auto: Vice City and NBA Jam, both of which crash/fail to load on my Nexus 6. I thought it may have been due to my changing DPI, but reverting the DPI resulted in the games still failing to play.
Anyone have any luck playing these games on their N6s?
NFS MW works
Assassins Pirates no dice
Peggle booyah!!!!
NBC Live is giving me problems, freezes right before playing.
HBO, Netflix, ESPN, PS Tube downloader all work
Castle Clash works but it runs like crap!!
Bentley's Hackpack won't even start.
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