Google sure doesn't seem to be sticking true to their own philosiphy. It says we can hold them to it. The way they are treating this device launch goes back on their own statements.
As seen here: http://www.google.com/intl/en/about/company/philosophy/
Ten things we know to be true
We first wrote these “10 things” when Google was just a few years old. From time to time we revisit this list to see if it still holds true. We hope it does—and you can hold us to that.
Focus on the user and all else will follow.
Since the beginning, we’ve focused on providing the best user experience possible. Whether we’re designing a new Internet browser or a new tweak to the look of the homepage, we take great care to ensure that they will ultimately serve you, rather than our own internal goal or bottom line. Our homepage interface is clear and simple, and pages load instantly. Placement in search results is never sold to anyone, and advertising is not only clearly marked as such, it offers relevant content and is not distracting. And when we build new tools and applications, we believe they should work so well you don’t have to consider how they might have been designed differently.
It’s best to do one thing really, really well.
We do search. With one of the world’s largest research groups focused exclusively on solving search problems, we know what we do well, and how we could do it better. Through continued iteration on difficult problems, we’ve been able to solve complex issues and provide continuous improvements to a service that already makes finding information a fast and seamless experience for millions of people. Our dedication to improving search helps us apply what we’ve learned to new products, like Gmail and Google Maps. Our hope is to bring the power of search to previously unexplored areas, and to help people access and use even more of the ever-expanding information in their lives.
Fast is better than slow.
We know your time is valuable, so when you’re seeking an answer on the web you want it right away–and we aim to please. We may be the only people in the world who can say our goal is to have people leave our website as quickly as possible. By shaving excess bits and bytes from our pages and increasing the efficiency of our serving environment, we’ve broken our own speed records many times over, so that the average response time on a search result is a fraction of a second. We keep speed in mind with each new product we release, whether it’s a mobile application or Google Chrome, a browser designed to be fast enough for the modern web. And we continue to work on making it all go even faster.
Democracy on the web works.
Google search works because it relies on the millions of individuals posting links on websites to help determine which other sites offer content of value. We assess the importance of every web page using more than 200 signals and a variety of techniques, including our patented PageRank™ algorithm, which analyzes which sites have been “voted” to be the best sources of information by other pages across the web. As the web gets bigger, this approach actually improves, as each new site is another point of information and another vote to be counted. In the same vein, we are active in open source software development, where innovation takes place through the collective effort of many programmers.
You don’t need to be at your desk to need an answer.
The world is increasingly mobile: people want access to information wherever they are, whenever they need it. We’re pioneering new technologies and offering new solutions for mobile services that help people all over the globe to do any number of tasks on their phone, from checking email and calendar events to watching videos, not to mention the several different ways to access Google search on a phone. In addition, we’re hoping to fuel greater innovation for mobile users everywhere with Android, a free, open source mobile platform. Android brings the openness that shaped the Internet to the mobile world. Not only does Android benefit consumers, who have more choice and innovative new mobile experiences, but it opens up revenue opportunities for carriers, manufacturers and developers.
You can make money without doing evil.
Google is a business. The revenue we generate is derived from offering search technology to companies and from the sale of advertising displayed on our site and on other sites across the web. Hundreds of thousands of advertisers worldwide use AdWords to promote their products; hundreds of thousands of publishers take advantage of our AdSense program to deliver ads relevant to their site content. To ensure that we’re ultimately serving all our users (whether they are advertisers or not), we have a set of guiding principles for our advertising programs and practices:
We don’t allow ads to be displayed on our results pages unless they are relevant where they are shown. And we firmly believe that ads can provide useful information if, and only if, they are relevant to what you wish to find–so it’s possible that certain searches won’t lead to any ads at all.
We believe that advertising can be effective without being flashy. We don’t accept pop–up advertising, which interferes with your ability to see the content you’ve requested. We’ve found that text ads that are relevant to the person reading them draw much higher clickthrough rates than ads appearing randomly. Any advertiser, whether small or large, can take advantage of this highly targeted medium.
Advertising on Google is always clearly identified as a “Sponsored Link,” so it does not compromise the integrity of our search results. We never manipulate rankings to put our partners higher in our search results and no one can buy better PageRank. Our users trust our objectivity and no short-term gain could ever justify breaching that trust.
There’s always more information out there.
Once we’d indexed more of the HTML pages on the Internet than any other search service, our engineers turned their attention to information that was not as readily accessible. Sometimes it was just a matter of integrating new databases into search, such as adding a phone number and address lookup and a business directory. Other efforts required a bit more creativity, like adding the ability to search news archives, patents, academic journals, billions of images and millions of books. And our researchers continue looking into ways to bring all the world’s information to people seeking answers.
The need for information crosses all borders.
Our company was founded in California, but our mission is to facilitate access to information for the entire world, and in every language. To that end, we have offices in more than 60 countries, maintain more than 180 Internet domains, and serve more than half of our results to people living outside the United States. We offer Google’s search interface in more than 130 languages, offer people the ability to restrict results to content written in their own language, and aim to provide the rest of our applications and products in as many languages and accessible formats as possible. Using our translation tools, people can discover content written on the other side of the world in languages they don’t speak. With these tools and the help of volunteer translators, we have been able to greatly improve both the variety and quality of services we can offer in even the most far–flung corners of the globe.
You can be serious without a suit.
Our founders built Google around the idea that work should be challenging, and the challenge should be fun. We believe that great, creative things are more likely to happen with the right company culture–and that doesn’t just mean lava lamps and rubber balls. There is an emphasis on team achievements and pride in individual accomplishments that contribute to our overall success. We put great stock in our employees–energetic, passionate people from diverse backgrounds with creative approaches to work, play and life. Our atmosphere may be casual, but as new ideas emerge in a café line, at a team meeting or at the gym, they are traded, tested and put into practice with dizzying speed–and they may be the launch pad for a new project destined for worldwide use.
Great just isn’t good enough.
We see being great at something as a starting point, not an endpoint. We set ourselves goals we know we can’t reach yet, because we know that by stretching to meet them we can get further than we expected. Through innovation and iteration, we aim to take things that work well and improve upon them in unexpected ways. For example, when one of our engineers saw that search worked well for properly spelled words, he wondered about how it handled typos. That led him to create an intuitive and more helpful spell checker.
Even if you don’t know exactly what you’re looking for, finding an answer on the web is our problem, not yours. We try to anticipate needs not yet articulated by our global audience, and meet them with products and services that set new standards. When we launched Gmail, it had more storage space than any email service available. In retrospect offering that seems obvious–but that’s because now we have new standards for email storage. Those are the kinds of changes we seek to make, and we’re always looking for new places where we can make a difference. Ultimately, our constant dissatisfaction with the way things are becomes the driving force behind everything we do.
What exactly are they "going back on"?
"The way they are treating this device launch"
What? They took preorders and said 3-4 weeks. That timeframe still isn't up, and they are currently sending out stock to brick and mortar retailers so they can have a unified launch. What exactly is the problem?
*philosophy
Trollololol
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Really?! For a TABLET?! It's not that serious.
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Damn dude. Get a grip.
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jamerican413 said:
Really?! For a TABLET?! It's not that serious.
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It is serious. It's life or death :laugh:
Seriously though, I was just trolling to stir the masses. Take this sh*t with a grain of salt.
Idiots. It will be shipped mid July. Quit crying. They are planning to do (and will likely achieve) EXACTLY what they said.
You could get yourself an iPad...
timmytim said:
It is serious. It's life or death :laugh:
Seriously though, I was just trolling to stir the masses. Take this sh*t with a grain of salt.
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You have to much time on your hands
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P1 Wookie said:
Trollololol
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chROMed said:
You could get yourself an iPad...
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I would never own that peice of over priced trash but thanks for the advice :good:
Got to get in before the ban hammer.
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Its employees are encouraged to work on project that interests them directly. This corporate culture cannot be simply copied. If it was, we would see someone doing it. It’s also what divers it from other companies and it’s what defines it now. Making the workspace fun and interesting is to maintain the current staff and attract new “brains”, the ones who might have an idea of a project that can turn out to be the next big thing.
Google maintains its services up and running with its dependency on ads; this was at first and might still be at a certain degree. But its market share and its focus on many fields might define the future of the corporate. Sole dependency on ads online is definitely not a good strategy and Google has figured that out already, with its expanding plans to other areas, first, ten years ago when it acquired Blogger the famous blogging platform. After that YouTube, with its 4 Billion videos streamed daily, alongside it’s cloud music service that has shown great threat to competitors with its simplicity. And lately it’s 12.5 Billion bid on Motorola Mobility.
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Unagi said:
Unlike the other corporates that sells good or sometimes excellent products for a high price, Google’s answer to this is simply, a high quality “product as a service” and the best part it’s for free.
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NOTHING is free. I am as guilty as most of the people for taking their 'free' candy, but it will someday bite us on the ass.
Not sure when, but it will happen. And it won't be pretty!
And believe me they are not doing it to be good corporate citizens.
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Unagi said:
The word Google has become synonymous with online search as it refers to the world’s best search engine, and it has developed a platform for huge free web-based applications that now we use every day to perform tasks, or simply for entertainment. The company now is a multinational corporation with a huge budget and a pre-determined strategy to grow bigger. But how does Google does it?
Google does it simply with its interest in providing what everyone needs and the way they want it to be. Unlike the other corporates that sells good or sometimes excellent products for a high price, Google’s answer to this is simply, a high quality “product as a service” and the best part it’s for free. However, the company also does sell online advertisement spaces. The ads are served also in their propriety services like Gmail and Docs etc.
Presenting an operating system for the small gadgets and making it free is a wise way to approach the market, and to get the approval of the experts the company made it based on Linux, the developers’ favorite. The project was first at the hands of a small company, but Google acquired it and financed the project so it can become a reality in order to expand in the telecommunication industry. The smart thing was including all of its services alongside new ones into the software, this making it getting closer to its users and getting the feedback with not much of an effort.
Google has developed some of its key services out from university labs. At first they would be tested for a long time internally, and then when it’s near perfection it’s released to the world like Gmail. The service was in beta phase for five years before it became stable. It’s is a pressure-free developing style, a style that divers it from others. While other companies have deadlines and a releasing schedule, Google doesn’t, simply because there is no one to report to. Its external contracts are different; Google doesn’t create a product for another corporate. Having so will enforce the company to work in a narrow area and with predetermined way. On the contrary it simply creates and presents the product for the other companies to work with.
Its employees are encouraged to work on project that interests them directly. This corporate culture cannot be simply copied. If it was, we would see someone doing it. It’s also what divers it from other companies and it’s what defines it now. Making the workspace fun and interesting is to maintain the current staff and attract new “brains”, the ones who might have an idea of a project that can turn out to be the next big thing.
Google maintains its services up and running with its dependency on ads; this was at first and might still be at a certain degree. But its market share and its focus on many fields might define the future of the corporate. Sole dependency on ads online is definitely not a good strategy and Google has figured that out already, with its expanding plans to other areas, first, ten years ago when it acquired Blogger the famous blogging platform. After that YouTube, with its 4 Billion videos streamed daily, alongside it’s cloud music service that has shown great threat to competitors with its simplicity. And lately it’s 12.5 Billion bid on Motorola Mobility.
It’s clear that Google continues to grow with its unique way of managing its business. It’s is what will define the corporate future, alongside our lifestyle that has been influenced and still does. We used to read printed books; we now read them on small devices to save the huge space the books occupy. There are many examples of how Google has enhanced the way we perform our tasks and activities and made them easy for us, and this is the reason why Google is so succeful.
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Forgive me if this thread is out of place. I mean everything I say with the greatest respect for omnirom's devs and users.
I found out about omnirom recently. I was struck by its motto: "Omni isn’t better, just different." There has to be a better reason to go to the trouble of building a rom that's only going to be slightly different from AOSP or Cyanogenmod.
I want to make a suggestion. As a new android rom, why not fill a need in the community instead of saying, we've got nothing better to offer you, only something different. Novelty wears off and people want more than just "different" from their operating systems.
Can I suggest a huge glaring need in the Android rom space that no major mod is filling? Security and Privacy.
The NSA and other intelligence agencies and corporations are launching attacks on people. Even Google is doing that. Months after I got my new android device, I was shocked when I found that Android was uploading all my contacts and other data to google's servers without asking me.
Read this article (Ars Technica: Google’s iron grip on Android: Controlling open source by any means necessary) to see how Google is making a walled garden with Android.
With 4.4, Google seems to be going even further. They won't stop. Google is using android as a trojan horse to collect information from people and sell it. Facebook is also doing it. The NSA is doing it.
Is there anybody out there who respects people and their privacy any more? I can't think of any major rom that does it.
Omnirom has xplodwild, Dees_Troy and Chainfire and many other talented developers, but why is the only thing they offer us a slightly different rom?!
We techsavvy people want more from our roms than that. Our pressing need in this day and age is not split screen apps. We're being constantly spied on by everybody and being monetised by everyone. What about end-to-end email security via Mailpile and the Dark Mail alliance? What about the Freedombox project?
Omnirom's description says, "Omni is what custom ROMs used to be about – innovation, new features, transparency, community, and freedom." Every android rom innovates new features and they're all open source because Android is open source. Most of them have a community focus. How is Omnirom any different?
Every project needs a reason to exist. I can't see omnirom's reason for existence.
There is a lack of respect for people by governments and corporations. They seek to use us or buy and sell us. Omnirom has the chance to fill a need in FOSS android world: A rom that respects and protects the data and the individual from legalized spying.
Let me respectfully ask this question. Wouldn't it be more reasonable to put all your talents to something useful and filling a need in the android world instead of being another flavour of stock Android?
Hoodahottie said:
Forgive me if this thread is out of place. I mean everything I say with the greatest respect for omnirom's devs and users.
I found out about omnirom recently. I was struck by its motto: "Omni isn’t better, just different." There has to be a better reason to go to the trouble of building a rom that's only going to be slightly different from AOSP or Cyanogenmod.
I want to make a suggestion. As a new android rom, why not fill a need in the community instead of saying, we've got nothing better to offer you, only something different. Novelty wears off and people want more than just "different" from their operating systems.
Can I suggest a huge glaring need in the Android rom space that no major mod is filling? Security and Privacy.
The NSA and other intelligence agencies and corporations are launching attacks on people. Even Google is doing that. Months after I got my new android device, I was shocked when I found that Android was uploading all my contacts and other data to google's servers without asking me.
Read this article (Ars Technica: Google’s iron grip on Android: Controlling open source by any means necessary) to see how Google is making a walled garden with Android.
With 4.4, Google seems to be going even further. They won't stop. Google is using android as a trojan horse to collect information from people and sell it. Facebook is also doing it. The NSA is doing it.
Is there anybody out there who respects people and their privacy any more? I can't think of any major rom that does it.
Omnirom has xplodwild, Dees_Troy and Chainfire and many other talented developers, but why is the only thing they offer us a slightly different rom?!
We techsavvy people want more from our roms than that. Our pressing need in this day and age is not split screen apps. We're being constantly spied on by everybody and being monetised by everyone. What about end-to-end email security via Mailpile and the Dark Mail alliance? What about the Freedombox project?
Omnirom's description says, "Omni is what custom ROMs used to be about – innovation, new features, transparency, community, and freedom." Every android rom innovates new features and they're all open source because Android is open source. Most of them have a community focus. How is Omnirom any different?
Every project needs a reason to exist. I can't see omnirom's reason for existence.
There is a lack of respect for people by governments and corporations. They seek to use us or buy and sell us. Omnirom has the chance to fill a need in FOSS android world: A rom that respects and protects the data and the individual from legalized spying.
Let me respectfully ask this question. Wouldn't it be more reasonable to put all your talents to something useful and filling a need in the android world instead of being another flavour of stock Android?
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Something that perhaps doesn't come across when reading about Omni is about our thoughts on security and privacy. I'm one of the loudest complainers about the actions of a few companies (Google being the main one), who are using Android as a platform to spy on people.
Make no mistake, Omni will seek to address that. One issue the community faces though is that it is currently at the ebb and whim of Google. If Google decide to do X, pretty much every custom ROM has no real choice other than to follow. The aim of Omni is to offer an alternative "upstream" to look towards, when you find out that Google has started to call home every inbound phone number that it doesn't "recognise", in order to find out if it's a company from Google Maps/Local... And presumably log that forever more with your account...
This is a timely question with a very reassuring response. There is F-Droid instead of PlayStore (but it tends to be a few months behind) and OsmAnd instead of Maps (which is better in some ways). I would like to see more in this direction too.
IMO unless your a spy or a criminal I don't see why someone would care about all that NSA stuff.
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pulser_g2 said:
Something that perhaps doesn't come across when reading about Omni is about our thoughts on security and privacy. I'm one of the loudest complainers about the actions of a few companies (Google being the main one), who are using Android as a platform to spy on people.
Make no mistake, Omni will seek to address that. One issue the community faces though is that it is currently at the ebb and whim of Google. If Google decide to do X, pretty much every custom ROM has no real choice other than to follow. The aim of Omni is to offer an alternative "upstream" to look towards, when you find out that Google has started to call home every inbound phone number that it doesn't "recognise", in order to find out if it's a company from Google Maps/Local... And presumably log that forever more with your account...
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Are you thinking of implementing off the shelf carddav / caldav syncing? Instead of syncing with Google for calendar and contacts, you can sync with any other source (like ownCloud).
Something that Davdroid does.
I am using this setup on my own private Linux server the last few days and seems to work well.
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jonathanxx1 said:
IMO unless your a spy or a criminal I don't see why someone would care about all that NSA stuff.
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Unfortunately, this is the biggest problem that the security industry (ie. people like me) face, in trying to explain the issues here.
Here's a small example, to show you the problems, not specifically with the NSA, but with anything "cloud". Let's imagine a malicious attacker is going after you...
Let's look at your gmail account. It's likely that you signed up for it with your old Hotmail account (the previously most common type of email service). Most people did. It's also likely that you protect your Gmail account fairly well, but have likely not changed your Hotmail password in a while. That's likely the best way in for an attacker.
Now, before you say "OK, but what's the risk", let's take a look at what information is accessible to someone getting into your Google account.
Firstly, they know the details of all your android devices (IMEI etc) - they know what tablets you have, what phones you have, and their serial numbers and identifiers. They can also carry out a remote wipe on any of your devices via Mobile Device Manager. Let's come back to this later though
From Google Mail, they have a fair idea of what you're up to, based on your communications to other people. They can access your location history, and data-mine that, to figure out where you are. They can also look at your communications with other people via Hangouts and G+, and attempt to work out where you are (or simply use the GPS location). They can access the location sharing features of google's services, and see where you and your family are. They can see you're not at home (getting your address from an email), and go to your house, aware your kids are home alone, and rob the place, abducting them.
When you return home, you meet a scene of devastation. You take out your phone and call the cops. You call 911/999/112/whatever, but the call was intercepted and passed to the attackers, via software that was installed onto your phone remotely (via the play store's remote push system).
At this point, the attacker takes your phone, and puts you in the back of the van. He uses Google Device Manager, and removes the lockscreen password from your phone (via the forgot lockscreen code feature). This also resets your device encryption password to a known one. At this point, all the devices are turned off, and their SIMs removed, and you are driven to a remote location.
The attackers then call your partner (having got their number from your Google contacts), and demand $1 million, while telling your partner that you know they are currently in <name of place from their google shared location feature>. The same remote access toolkit is installed onto their phone (given they had used your email as a recovery email for their Google account), and this permits monitoring of their phone to check if they call 911 etc.
OK, that all sounds far-fetched, but that is all entirely possible. The sheer amount of data being held about you, by google and other cloud providers, is insane. I didn't even go into the possibility of financial theft here. Cellphones are a very important thing to people, and they often take them for granted. Would you consider that when you called 911 in a moment of need, that someone had remote-installed a piece of malicious software, which exploits an android security hole, to replace the dialer app, and route the call to a rogue attacker, pretending to be the emergency services?
The amount of control that "other people" have over a phone running "Google Apps" is immense. Don't just think about the "NSA" aspects of this - consider how devastating it would be if someone had access to your Google account. And now remember that anyone on the technical team of Google could (in theory) issue an access token to your account to a well-paying attacker...
Oh, and one of the best ways an attacker can get into your Google account is simply to steal a phone or tablet, and extract the Google authentication token. Sure, they might not be able to change your password, but they are now "into" the chain, and will be able to start the attack.
If this don't bother you, I don't know what will...
scanno said:
Are you thinking of implementing off the shelf carddav / caldav syncing? Instead of syncing with Google for calendar and contacts, you can sync with any other source (like ownCloud).
Something that Davdroid does.
I am using this setup on my own private Linux server the last few days and seems to work well.
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I currently use {Card,Cal}dav syncing via my OwnCloud server. Thanks for the link to DavDroid, I'd not seen it before!
jonathanxx1 said:
IMO unless your a spy or a criminal I don't see why someone would care about all that NSA stuff.
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It's shocking that so many people don't (want to?) see the actual problem. The whole spying system is not just about tracking down terrorists.
Google, Facebook, etc and even governmental institutions collect our data to predict and influence our future actions.
So please devs, give us the option to be more independent from the big companies.
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pulser_g2 said:
I currently use {Card,Cal}dav syncing via my OwnCloud server. Thanks for the link to DavDroid, I'd not seen it before!
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DavDroid is a pretty nice solution and you can set it up for multiple accounts.
I am still looking for a good note taking app (using Evernote now) to sync with my OwnCloud server.
Do you have any suggestions for a sort of Evernote replacement that can sync with OwnCloud?
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boernie said:
It's shocking that so many people don't (want to?) see the actual problem. The whole spying system is not just about tracking down terrorists.
Google, Facebook, etc and even governmental institutions collect our data to predict and influence our future actions.
So please devs, give us the option to be more independent from the big companies.
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For your calendar and contacts there are solutions already. Main problem is where so you store your data. You will need your own server or trusted third party.
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I'm trying to set up my own infrastructure
But I was surprised that there was not out-of-the-box solution to use CardDav and CalDav.
Maybe you could include the apps mentioned above as they are/will become open source.
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DavDroid is a pretty nice solution and you can set it up for multiple accounts.
I am still looking for a good note taking app (using Evernote now) to sync with my OwnCloud server.
Do you have any suggestions for a sort of Evernote replacement that can sync with OwnCloud?
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For your calendar and contacts there are solutions already. Main problem is where so you store your data. You will need your own server or trusted third party.
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I've found a nice notepad app, but none yet that use OwnCloud sync.
I was thinking about looking into https://github.com/spacecowboy/NotePad and trying to get it working with the API. It would be fairly easy to remove the "closed" bits like Dropbox sync etc, and use the OwnCloud backend. It would also be nice to add proper encryption of notes later on.
Anyone else interested? (I hate android app coding, I can't even get the dependencies to resolve for it to build... Thus contributing to my dislike for ANYTHING java based)
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Something that perhaps doesn't come across when reading about Omni is about our thoughts on security and privacy. I'm one of the loudest complainers about the actions of a few companies (Google being the main one), who are using Android as a platform to spy on people.
Make no mistake, Omni will seek to address that. One issue the community faces though is that it is currently at the ebb and whim of Google. If Google decide to do X, pretty much every custom ROM has no real choice other than to follow. The aim of Omni is to offer an alternative "upstream" to look towards, when you find out that Google has started to call home every inbound phone number that it doesn't "recognise", in order to find out if it's a company from Google Maps/Local... And presumably log that forever more with your account...
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I'm thrilled to hear this! Do other omnirom devs share your opinion?
I know it's early, but does the omnirom team have specific security/privacy ideas they want to implement?
In the long run, I don't see the Android ecosystem remaining in one piece. It's going to fragment. Amazon has already done it. Samsung may make this move. And people who want privacy and secure communications need a rom (and perhaps it's own app ecosystem) to which they can turn.
Please think about changing your why omnirom page. Right now, its pitch is very weak. Add a section about privacy and security and people will flock to this rom.
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It's shocking that so many people don't (want to?) see the actual problem. The whole spying system is not just about tracking down terrorists.
Google, Facebook, etc and even governmental institutions collect our data to predict and influence our future actions.
So please devs, give us the option to be more independent from the big companies.
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I'm absolutely shocked every time I hear people say this. So many people just dismiss the NSA spying because they're not terrorists. They don't have the imagination it takes to understand that today's citizen is tomorrow's terrorist. Every country that spied on it's citizens has oppressed them.
I'm not a spy or terrorist, but I don't want my every thought and action logged away to be used against me later.
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I'm trying to set up my own infrastructure
But I was surprised that there was not out-of-the-box solution to use CardDav and CalDav.
Maybe you could include the apps mentioned above as they are/will become open source.
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I can't post links, but if you want your own secure cloud, look at the Freedombox project. It's Debian based and it has some radical ideas. Eben Moglen and Bdale garbee have worked on it since 2010. Eben Moglen's talk about countries spying on citizens came long before the NSA story came to light.
The website is kind of dead, but in August Bdale gave a talk where he said Freedombox 1.0 should come before 2014. It's on youtube.
boernie said:
It's shocking that so many people don't (want to?) see the actual problem. The whole spying system is not just about tracking down terrorists.
Google, Facebook, etc and even governmental institutions collect our data to predict and influence our future actions.
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There is a pretty simple solution to this!
Don't behave like expected.
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Even Google is doing that. Months after I got my new android device, I was shocked when I found that Android was uploading all my contacts and other data to google's servers without asking me.
We techsavvy people want more
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With all due respect to the OP, the above is the major problem. While many of us are "tech savvy" to one degree or another, I think we forget how to read sometimes.
When you're given that stack of papers to sign for your mortgage, car loan, credit card or bank account, how many blindly sign where we are told to be the agent of that company? Do you read what you are signing? If you answer yes, why is setting up your phone any different? We are told that such and such information is going to be collected when we sign up for our Google accounts. We are told that additional information is going to be collected when we set up our phone. Every time we start up GPS services, we are told Google is going to use this data they collect.
This causes me to wonder why it takes people by surprise when they learn that Google isn't a computer hardware and software company, but a marketing company. And even more wonder happens when they mention it's without their knowledge. Reading terms of service is important. They spell out exactly what they are going to do and give you the option not to participate. When I worked for IBM in the 80's, I had to sign away any rights to technology I developed while working there (with the exception of anything I started before employment and listed on their agreement). If I didn't want to do that I was my choice to not work there. The same thing happened with Tricord, Wang, Computer Associates, MAI, Excactium, Pivotal, etc
The other response about the NSA is troubling as well. We elect our representatives in this country every two four or six years. How many of those people that you voted into office voted yes to the Patriot Act? You want some scary reading, research the rights we gave up allowing that to happen.
We are innocent until proven guilty. The NSA "spying" doesn't just ensnare terrorist, but easily the whole population of the USA. Their model of two, three and more levels of contact captures everyone. The real question isn't I'm not a terrorist so why does it matter, it is I'm not a terrorist so why are you doing it?
We setup up these phones with the knowledge we would be tracked. We walk down the street and see security cameras watching. Then we complain about it? We allowed it to happen to have a whiz bang new phone or to feel safer.
" Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin
I work in retail. Every year I hear people complain that we set Christmas stuff too early. Those same people are buying their lights, cards and trees in the same visit. If they didn't buy early, we wouldn't set early. If we truly cared about not being used as marketing data, we wouldn't be using these phones. We wouldn't use Google.com to search. We wouldn't re-elect many of those in office at the local state and federal levels.
Sorry for the rant, I'll step of the soapbox and allow this discussion to get back on track.
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With no disrespect, I wonder if people who ask me to take full responsibility understand life and power.
I understand that I have to take some responsibility for signing on for services and programs, but I blame the government and corporations more because they are many times richer and more powerful than me.
And they take advantage of that.
How many Terms of service agreements have I had to sign to use internet services? If I really read all of their ToS, I wouldn't have time for anything else. I'll bet that the ceos of these companies haven't read the ToS of their own products. They don't have to because they have the money to hire 50 of the best lawyers and ask them to craft a bullet-proof ToS.
They probably spent tens of thousands of dollars on the ToS. And I stand against all of that money and power, with limited time and resources and no law degree. Am I the one to be blamed? They know I'm tired from work, that I don't have a legal background and my attention span is limited and I need this product, and there is no other choice unless I'm willing to suffer a lot.
Often these multinational corporations control the whole market and I don't really have any choice. Look at the phone OS market now. I can choose between Android, iOS or Windows Phone. My choices are an open source OS built to facilitate spying, an overpriced, closed source, simplistic OS built by a company that co-operates with the NSA or a closed source, proprietary phone from an industry giant accused of anti-competitive behaviour and also collaborating with the NSA.
There's no real choice. Not just in the phone industry, but in most places in life. Powerful people don't become powerful by giving everyone else choices and freedom. They take freedom away. You ask me to take responsibility as if I had another, better choice. Apple, Google and Microsoft ToS will be mostly similar and it'll always protect their interests. There are no other real choices. It's always been that way, and why I blame the government, corporations and powerful people more than myself.
To really win, I'd have to devote my life to fighting all these powerful forces and even if I win, I'll have to spend the rest of my life defending against other crooks who'd try to do the same thing. I wouldn't have any time left for a life.
"You ask me to take responsibility as if I had another, better choice."
Who else is responsible for your actions?
"Apple, Google and Microsoft ToS will be mostly similar and it'll always protect their interests. There are no other real choices."
Yes, these companies are in business to make money. That is no different than you having a job to make money.
But do not tell me you or Bill or Steve or Larry do not have à choice. Ever heard of CP/M? An Altair? AltaVista? If you haven't, here is some history.
CP/M was a dominant operating system before DOS. Bill Gates made a choice to create Altair Basic for the Altair microcomputer being sold mail-order. That was the start of Micro-Soft (now Microsoft). He made another choice to create MS-DOS to compete against CP/M for the IBM PC and clones. He made another choice to start work on Windows to compete against Apple's graphical interfaces and IBM's TopView.
Before Steve Jobs made the choice to sell Woz's garage built microcomputer (later named the Apple) there was the Altair mentioned above. They made a choice to build an alternative.
Larry Page and Sergey Brin made the choice to start Google, thinking they could do search better than AltaVista, Yahoo, Excite, HotBot, MetaCrawler, etc.
Powerful people become powerful many times by giving others alternatives. The above mentioned powerful people are examples.
We can make the choice to use prepaid basic phones and not worry about anyone watching us because you don't use personal information to activate.
"To really win, I'd have to devote my life to fighting all these powerful forces"
You should. Doing so makes you powerful. Recently two women changed how one of the world's largest food brands makes their products. One of them eventually dropped out of the spot light and it became the crusade of ONE woman. Kraft Foods is changing how they make some of their Mac and Cheese products due to the efforts of one individual. No more Yellow #5 in their Mac and Cheese products specifically marketed at children. That was a choice she made. A fight that became part of her life.
We all have choices. We are all responsible for our own actions. We can't blame government as a whole because they are largely elected by us. We work to make money to live the life we choose. Corporations (started by individuals) do the same thing.
Sorry again for diverting off topic, but I have a difficult time with responsibility shifting to account for mistakes. We all make them (this reply is probably one of mine). A wise person once said, the man who makes no mistake, usually doesn't make anything worthwhile.
This particular set of threads, all the Omni threads, are what make communities like this work. We can voice opinions, state facts, help with commands to build a repository, compile a kernel, even agree to disagree.
This is how XDA started, while maybe some sections have stayed from the roots, Omni has brought it back full circle.
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IMO unless your a spy or a criminal I don't see why someone would care about all that NSA stuff.
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You may want to skim through this: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704471504574438900830760842
Some laws (in many? all? countries) are so loosely worded that you're probably breaking some of them right now. Now remember that the government/google/facebook/whoever is watching everything you do. If you ever become "a problem" you're not going to be too difficult to "deal with". Just a potential look at one of the many problems with complete surveillance.
You guys talk about this as if Google, Facebook and all these companies willingly gave up this information.
But the reality is this: the government (NSA) asks for the data. If the companies deny them this, the NSA then goes to obtain a generalized warrant from the FISA courts, secret courts with a 99.7% warrant approval rate, and then obtain the data regardless of what these companies want.
And for those of you who STILL think it's the companies, read this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...1d661e-4166-11e3-8b74-d89d714ca4dd_story.html
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And yes, these companies DO own your data. As soon as you click "I accept these terms" on the registration page, they are now the owners of everything that goes through their online services.
But, here's the catch. Companies are individuals too, as established in Citizens United v. FCC, and are protected under the same rights as any other individual. And it logically follows that because of this, it is a breach on each company's 4th amendment rights for the NSA to obtain generalized warrants, that list NO goal for the investigation, and use these in order to force each company to fork over account details among other things.
frustration pure
one of the most common arguments of those who don't care or don't want to face the
risks of others knowing anything or almost everything of us is:
i have nothing to hide so what !
now to make a point i would like to come up with a very simple and for many
perhaps a bit strange example but i think most will understand what i mean.
ALBEIT I'M ALLOWED TO MAKE LOVE TO MY WIFE AND IT'S TOTALLY LEGAL
AND RIGHT, I DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO LISTEN OR WATCH :laugh:
UNDERSTOOD ?
regards
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I've been lurking and decided to give my opinion. First though, let me give a little background. Two years ago I bought my first Nexus and I rooted it right away. I left the bootloader unlocked, the CWM recovery installed, and USB debugging left on. Any app that could log me in automatically I allowed...Ebay, Amazon, Gmail, etc. I thought I was doing a good job protecting my privacy by using a strong password lock and installing Lookout.
I had no idea how easy it was to gain access to all of my data. My ignorance would not have protected me. Now to today. I have a rooted phone, but the bootloader is locked with the stock recovery installed. I will install a custom rom when a good one is available, but the stock recovery will be re-flashed and the bootloader locked when I'm done. I still use Lookout. I'm using LastPass to manage unique strong passwords now...no more saving passwords. I'm waiting for ADB Toggle to be fixed for Kitkat and USB Debugging will be turned off when my phone plugs into a computer. I am constantly looking for ways to protect my data.
To have total convenience, you must give up privacy and security. To have total privacy and security, you must give up convenience. I know that google has access to EVERYTHING I do with my phone and am not happy about it. I try to be informed and balance convenience, privacy, and security.
:good: I second the suggestion that OmniROM should attempt to become the ROM for people who want to protect their privacy and security. :good: There is a lot that can be done at the operating system level that cannot be performed by individual apps. Sure, I love all the features that custom ROMs offer and look forward to see what can be done, but privacy and security are #1 for me.
If you agree, then +1 this post.
In the field of education, technology has an important role because with the help of technologywe can cam make easy to education. Also, technology provides a lot of study materials through which you can learn anywhere in the world.
People have lost sight of the fact that, from an educational perspective, the most important technology ever created was the printing press.
With technology, students have a wider range of resources to learn from and a wider range of resources to conduct fact checks. I'm not sure of all the other benefits but that's all that comes to mind.
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With technology, students have a wider range of resources to learn from and a wider range of resources to conduct fact checks. I'm not sure of all the other benefits but that's all that comes to mind.
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Sure. From another perspective, technology is an enabler in education. It is high time the brick and mortar universities decided on how to cut cost and embrace online learning platforms.
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In the field of education, technology has an important role because with the help of technologywe can cam make easy to education. Also, technology provides a lot of study materials through which you can learn anywhere in the world.
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I cant put it any better.
But here are some factors that make me favor the integration of technology in education.
Firstly, most teenagers right now started using phones right from childhood therefore integrating mobile education just make it simple for them to grasp some of the concepts. Besides, with the introduction of Virtual Reality and Artificial Intelligence, it can only get better .
One who masters's the next evolving technology rules the world.
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One who masters's the next evolving technology rules the world.
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Technology is very useful in these for education. Even the school students have smart class, they can understand the concepts easily.
Education should be literate and tecnology...
Teachers themselves not only need to be literate, but they must also ensure that their students are able to access the information they need, are capable of determining the relative merits of the information obtained, and are able to represent the information they have gathered in new ways using the different forms of media available to them (print, video, audio, digital).
At present, technology has been imposed in our daily lives, therefore it is a vital need to learn and master them, since everything that surrounds us implies technology in one way or another,
With all lockdowns, technology is used more than ever for teaching and learning...
It will be useful if technology is implemented properly. But so far there's been a lot of bad attempts
It's pretty important for any essay writer to compose unique texts for the customers. If it would be not unique, client can refuse from the payment.
AI/CAD Robotics teacher's!
It's almost impossible to imagine education process without using tech in it. Agree?
For example https://idscan.net/. Employing student ID scanners and school visitor management software dramatically improves school safety and security by denying access to unauthorized individuals and granting access to those approved, all in real-time. Did you even know about that?
"The media is the message."
Hmmm...
Technology is the message.
app/build.gradle
I am interested in 3D printing and I think it’s a great idea to use 3D printing in educations. It is not easy to have young students figure things out without the benefit of visualization. A visual learning environment improves their understanding of the world, being able to touch and see their projects. It’s a great opportunity for graphic, geography, chemistry students. But 3D printers are expensive, and many educational institutions don’t have enough funding to buy them. I hope, this will change over time.
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Absolutely agree that with the help of technology we can cam make education much easier. I have realized it in my own experience when I started studying with a tutor on preply. Just imagine I can study the language practising with a native. I'm sure that people have had no such opportunity for a couple of decades ago. And that's the basic thing that I could mention. The internet is a huge library where you can find everything you want. Also, it is possible to talk about the newest technologies like VR. It is insane.
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Not near everything and it can be heavy censored/search biased.
Example, wiki keeps editing critical info out to fit their left and god knows what agenda.
Example, entry David Hedison ie Capt Crane from the TV show Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea was in the Navy. He was also a pretty good Navy boxer. It helps explain his physical prowess in fight scenes... it was real.
This critical fact was completely omitted by wiki.
Even chemical entries have been altered over the last few years removing important properties.
Technology is very important in education. Continuing education is crucial. That's why platforms for online learning are very good. MOOCs offer the opportunity for lifelong learning at international universities. You also get certifications. Free and available to all. Many websites are also a good source of knowledge. XDA is one of those websites. Without internet access all this wouldn't be available. The most important thing is that education never stops and various new technologies will make continuing education possible for many people.
Technology makes education more engaging, interesting, and you can get more information rather than using old books.
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Completely computer code illiterate. Have some rudimentary knowledge of computer use ......but, .....that's about it.
Bought an LG V40 ThinQ, SKU: LMV405QA7 .AUSABK, in 2019 directly from the manufacturer. I never activated it, never used it. It's been sitting, brand new in the box, ever since. I didn't want to go the same route I did prior -- allowing all the outside control of my device -- facilitating all the snooping upon me, i.e. data collection of my private personal information ......and life.
I have spent the duration of time, since purchase of this phone, attempting to educate myself; as to, how to free myself of the surveilance on me by corporate America.
Unfortunately, I have since learned: the LG V40 was much more complicated to take control of, than other phones. Atleast, more than the general skill set of the layman would allow.
I am here seeking the knowledge and power of XDA's developers, to free myself, like so many others -- and protect what remain of my civil liberties, from the surveillance state.
Respectfully,
Alex
Welcome to XDA.
If you're concerned about privacy I would unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM without Google services. It won't be perfect but a little less data will be transferred. Maybe something like a PinePhone would be better for privacy, or better yet an old time "dumbphone"...
You should be able to find most of the info you need in the LG V40 section of the forums. Check it out...
And just a heads-up: keep the politics off the forum. To quote the forum rules:
2.4 Personal attacks, racial, political and / or religious discussions: XDA is a discussion forum about certain mobile phones. Mobile phones are not racial, political, religious or personally offensive and therefore, none of these types of discussions are permitted on XDA.
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Again, welcome and I hope you have a good experience here on XDA.
Step 1 - abandon or delete FB, Twitter, Instagram, WhatsApp etc accounts.
Extreme - Get burner phone with prepaid minutes paid with cash. Power down when not using. Don't use at home or familiar/same locations. Toss as needed, repeat
They use voice recognition algorithms so they can likely ID you by voice probably in real time.
NASA surveillance has been online for a while now... and is far more capable than they like you to know. It effectively has unlimited storage capacity for all voice calls, text, internet activity and more.
Didgeridoohan said:
Welcome to XDA.
If you're concerned about privacy I would unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM without Google services. It won't be perfect but a little less data will be transferred. Maybe something like a PinePhone would be better for privacy, or better yet an old time "dumbphone"...
You should be able to find most of the info you need in the LG V40 section of the forums. Check it out...
And just a heads-up: keep the politics off the forum. To quote the forum rules:
Again, welcome and I hope you have a good experience here on XDA.
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Thank you much for your reply, guidance, and help, Didgeridoohan.
I was happy to see, layman or not, I was, atleast, on the right track with some things. I have been utilizing the "dumb phones". Mostly, flip phones from yester-year; mostly a decade old or more. The problem I am running into with those: the 2G and 3G bands they operate on are being discontinued by more and more cellular providers. By some time in 2022, most of my dumb phones will nolonger be operational.
Regarding the Pine phone, is was nice to see, I was on the right track there. I will indeed continue to investigate that phone, and see what is possible there.
I'd love to unlock the bootloader of my LG V40, and install that Googleless ROM, as suggested. It looks pretty complicated to accomplish though, on a LG V40 (unlocked, US version); and, I am a likely brick candidate, if there ever was one. Hoping to figure out what is possible for me by talking to you guys; then, move on from there, to what I can safely accomplish myself.
I'd love to get Microsoft and Google off my machines and devices; and, still have decent avenues to keep doing the stuff I have been doing. Speaking of which, any recommendations for the computer programming ignorant and novice still wanting near Microsoft OS capability and functionality, without all the snooping, in a replacement OS for their desktop and laptop??
Thanks Didgeridoohan,
ALEX
Take the PC offline. Use Android for interfacing with the internet. It's far less likely to be compromised or infected by malware.
Use Karma Firewall to see what's connecting and where to, block if needed. Fully functional on Pie and below, freeware that uses almost no battery.
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Try this:
blackhawk said:
Step 1 - abandon or delete FB, Twitter, Instagram, WhatsApp etc accounts.
Extreme - Get burner phone with prepaid minutes paid with cash. Power down when not using. Don't use at home or familiar/same locations. Toss as needed, repeat
They use voice recognition algorithms so they can likely ID you by voice probably in real time.
NASA surveillance has been online for a while now... and is far more capable than they like you to know. It effectively has unlimited storage capacity for all voice calls, text, internet activity and more.
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Thank you for the empowerment Black Hawk.
Definitely understand why you are calling my attention to the social media apps ......what aren't they collecting about your communications with others?!
I as well understand: why you are steering me towards prepaid phone accounts, funded in cash only. I additionally understand why you are suggesting keeping my phone powered off, and using it only in unfrequented places. Lastly, getting rid of the device, and starting over with a fresh device periodically, understand as well. All powerful recommendations, if higher levels of privacy are valued. Thank you much!
NASA surveillance, and their capabilities .......effectly, databasing any and all forms of communication between human beings .......is scary stuff. I only wonder: who has access, for what purposes; and, does this access include private corporations .......and what might those corporations be using this database for?
I am continuing to review and think about your latest suggestions, and will comment later. How may I private message you, if possible, and you allow it?
Your input has been greatly appreciated, my friend.
ALEX
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Thank you for the empowerment Black Hawk.
Definitely understand why you are calling my attention to the social media apps ......what aren't they collecting about your communications with others?!
I as well understand: why you are steering me towards prepaid phone accounts, funded in cash only. I additionally understand why you are suggesting keeping my phone powered off, and using it only in unfrequented places. Lastly, getting rid of the device, and starting over with a fresh device periodically, understand as well. All powerful recommendations, if higher levels of privacy are valued. Thank you much!
NASA surveillance, and their capabilities .......effectly, databasing any and all forms of communication between human beings .......is scary stuff. I only wonder: who has access, for what purposes; and, does this access include private corporations .......and what might those corporations be using this database for?
I am continuing to review and think about your latest suggestions, and will comment later. How may I private message you, if possible, and you allow it?
Your input has been greatly appreciated, my friend.
ALEX
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I'm being somewhat sarcastic about the paid phone apps. Really if you are under their suspicion and a high value target... they can be quit adaptable with a lot of resources at their disposal.
I wasn't being sarcastic about FB etc, pure poison. Don't dime yourself out... social malware.
blackhawk said:
Step 1 - abandon or delete FB, Twitter, Instagram, WhatsApp etc accounts.
Extreme - Get burner phone with prepaid minutes paid with cash. Power down when not using. Don't use at home or familiar/same locations. Toss as needed, repeat
They use voice recognition algorithms so they can likely ID you by voice probably in real time.
NASA surveillance has been online for a while now... and is far more capable than they like you to know. It effectively has unlimited storage capacity for all voice calls, text, internet activity and more.
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The usage of voice recognition technology, by the telecommunication companies, and others, is a real scary thing; and, I believe: most of the public is not aware of this fact. This technology, and its wide spread usage, across our telecommunication networks, represents a direct assault on our freedom of speech, and right to privacy, as we attempt to communicate privately with our fellow citizens, in a supposedly, free society. The fact, the government, and corporations operating in the private sector, have access to, and are scrutinizing, communications between private citizens, who have not been convicted in a court of law as being involved in criminal or terroristic activity; or, even had been benefit of the judicial process, as they are unknowingly being spied upon......is.....
...diabolical ..........and certainly, ............anti-American.
Well again this is a technical forum.
blackhawk said:
Take the PC offline. Use Android for interfacing with the internet. It's far less likely to be compromised or infected by malware.
Use Karma Firewall to see what's connecting and where to, block if needed. Fully functional on Pie and below, freeware that uses almost no battery.
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blackhawk said:
I'm being somewhat sarcastic about the paid phone apps. Really if you are under their suspicion and a high value target... they can be quit adaptable with a lot of resources at their disposal.
I wasn't being sarcastic about FB etc, pure poison. Don't dime yourself out... social malware.
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I understand, now, you were being a little "tongue and cheeck" with me; but, I think: your recommendations still apply, for anyone trying to understand: what it would take, not to be tracked easily. I as well understand: later, what you were alluding to, and your overall point -- about the magnitude of surveillance resources that could be brought to bare against you; if, you were quite important, to substantial figures.
blackhawk said:
Take the PC offline. Use Android for interfacing with the internet. It's far less likely to be compromised or infected by malware.
Use Karma Firewall to see what's connecting and where to, block if needed. Fully functional on Pie and below, freeware that uses almost no battery.
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Thanks for the gold nugget of info on this protection mechanism. I will certainly be checking this out!
Happy Halloween Black Hawk.
ALEX
ThankGod 4 XDA developers said:
I understand, now, you were being a little "tongue and cheeck" with me; but, I think: your recommendations still apply, for anyone trying to understand: what it would take, not to be tracked easily. I as well understand: later, what you were alluding to, and your overall point -- about the magnitude of surveillance resources that could be brought to bare against you; if, you were quite important, to substantial figures.
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Not exactly. My PC is always offline, but that's simply because it's mission doesn't require internet connection so it's a needless liability.
All else applies in that statement.
It's blackhawk...
Didgeridoohan said:
Welcome to XDA.
If you're concerned about privacy I would unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM without Google services. It won't be perfect but a little less data will be transferred. Maybe something like a PinePhone would be better for privacy, or better yet an old time "dumbphone"...
You should be able to find most of the info you need in the LG V40 section of the forums. Check it out...
And just a heads-up: keep the politics off the forum. To quote the forum rules:
Again, welcome and I hope you have a good experience here on XDA.
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With all due respect, we live in a pervasive, corrupt corporate and political technocracy that has weaponized our phones, and all technology, to surveil and track our every move, views, opinions, activities, locations. The Borg is exempt from this illegal invasion of privacy and operates in secrecy with impunity for their tyrannical crimes against humanity. Ignoring this tragic reality is why our privacy, rights, and freedoms are all being stripped away. Those who bury their head in the sand and refuse to wake up to this travesty and resist on all relative platforms. Are useful idiot slaves who are playing right into their hands and are assimilated by the Borg! Just keeping it real because this harsh reality must be spread far and wide since capitulation is assimilation and assimilation is extermination. Comply and you Die!
Anti-Trans-Humanist said:
With all due respect, we live in a pervasive, corrupt corporate and political technocracy that has weaponized our phones, and all technology, to surveil and track our every move, views, opinions, activities, locations. The Borg is exempt from this illegal invasion of privacy and operates in secrecy with impunity for their tyrannical crimes against humanity. Ignoring this tragic reality is why our privacy, rights, and freedoms are all being stripped away. Those who bury their head in the sand and refuse to wake up to this travesty and resist on all relative platforms. Are useful idiot slaves who are playing right into their hands and are assimilated by the Borg! Just keeping it real because this harsh reality must be spread far and wide since capitulation is assimilation and assimilation is eradication!
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Good thing that the Borg are fictitious then...
Still, my original statement stands: leave the politics out of any discussions/posts on XDA. It's perfectly possible to discuss privacy concerns without bringing up politics...
Didgeridoohan said:
Good thing that the Borg are fictitious then...
Still, my original statement stands: leave the politics out of any discussions/posts on XDA. It's perfectly possible to discuss privacy concerns without bringing up politics...
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Obviously the Borg taken from Star Trek is fictitious but it's a single word representation of a conglomeration of secret societies. That includes the Freemasons, Jesuits, Illuminati and other psychopathic death cults with an anti human, genocidal agenda.
Your name implies you reside or are from Australia which is being overtaken and decimated by them. In part because the good people of Australia have fallen right into their trap. Which includes spinning and twisting words to subvert the truth and distort reality. Such as inferring the use of this fictitious title to describe a conglomeration of very real, nefarious, evil, elements. Ridiculously suggests I'm some psychotic conspiracy theorist that blurs the lines between truth and fiction.
The distinction's very clear to me because I'm awake to reality unlike the masses that are like lemmings running straight off a cliff to their death. I'll leave it at that.