It's themeing! Honestly I like the holo look of ics. I also like the textured look of sense. And it seems while sense 4 is just as intrusive as previous versions, they redid the graphics and tweaked in ics features to blend quite well with the holo elements in tact. However this isn't the case with 3.6. 3.6 really is just a tweaked 3.5 designed to work with ics. Problem is there are 2 themes present here. A lot of menus your seeing holo elements and but you still have textured borders of old sense everywhere in the ui. The result is a ui with a loss of identity. You can install custom skins that help but they still leave a lot of textured sense borders that can't be removed as the skins only go so deep.
I will say overall I like sense and buying an HTC phone I didn't expect AOSP. I think if they couldn't give us 4 than 3.6 should of at least been designed better to blend in with holo elements. And one thing I don't get about HTC is they always remove the overscroll effect. I'm going to root my phone soon and first order or business will be fixing the themeing. I dunno if ill put a custom Rom on yet just want more theming control to start. Imo I don't want a pure senseless Rom as I do like sense
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Are you going to make a theme?
I dunno, it's one thing to root and tweak with the graphics, it's another to make a cwm theme. I'm not a developer... Yet
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Nice wording man, I like the "yet" part... It's definitely an interesting community! Ever since I joined, I've installed Ubuntu on my Core i7 Dell laptop along with Android 4.0.1 on VirtualBox, I really hope to get involved in the dev community myself in the future.
Yeah I've been pressed for time but I've been wanting to learn how to develop for my HTC Flyer tablet and my Vivid. With the Flyer its creating a better stock launcher that interest me as with it being on honeycomb and support being cut off from htc, there aren't a whole lot of choices. For this phone its cleaning up the stock rom and allowing ics and Sense 3.6 to coexist in perfect harmony. No promises on anything yet
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Yeah I've been pressed for time but I've been wanting to learn how to develop for my HTC Flyer tablet and my Vivid. With the Flyer its creating a better stock launcher that interest me as with it being on honeycomb and support being cut off from htc, there aren't a whole lot of choices. For this phone its cleaning up the stock rom and allowing ics and Sense 3.6 to coexist in perfect harmony. No promises on anything yet
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I don't consider my self a dev either...yet
But I do have some experience with the development on the Samsung infuse (which you can tell by my Sig)
I've been trying to mess with the stock rom for a while now with no luck...I just can't seem to get any apktool to work with stock ics of this device, and after a little research it seems sense 3.6 is the problem, but I have yet to find a solution
I've asked a few times for help on decompiling for the vivid but have gotten no response...I'm not trying to discourage you all i wanna get across is that if you have any success...please share the knowledge with me
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Yeah htc makes someone nice devices but they aren't developer devices for sure. I'll let you know once I get involved in it what I can do might be why most flash the sense removed roms as its all or none.
Yeah overall I like sense 3.6 just hate the theme clashing. Good example is hitting the search button. All of a sudden your not using sense 3.6 anymore, your now using aosp android! I think I remember reading Google required a certain percentage of holo elements for market access, and I think htc kept that in mind in redesigning sense from the ground up with the one series. But when it came time to upgrade what they had they just basically ported 3.5 over and added a few ics features into the launcher. HTC claims that 4.0 is too different from 3.5 and earlier and previous users need familiarity but Imo if you've played with a one x its all pretty familiar. 3.6 overall was a bad call
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My one major gripe with Sense is the lack of changing things. I'd like to be able to (without using LauncherPro) tell it "I want 5 columns, and 6 rows of icons, on top of the 5 at the bottom. (so a total of 7 rows of icons, 5 columns)"
It WORKS well, just see some photo's I've posted in recent days.
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My one major gripe with Sense is the lack of changing things. I'd like to be able to (without using LauncherPro) tell it "I want 5 columns, and 6 rows of icons, on top of the 5 at the bottom. (so a total of 7 rows of icons, 5 columns)"
It WORKS well, just see some photo's I've posted in recent days.
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I hear ya, but thats all stock launchers including the google one. Sense 3.6 has some of the best customization for stock I've seen, but it still pales in comparison to say ADW EX, Go Launcher, or Apex.
alright...for the longest time ive been trying to use apktool with the "att stock ics for chefs or whatever" never had luck...today i decided to try apktool with an old download of 0.9 holics rom, to my surprise apktool works with it-i was able to install framework, decompile, recompile...it all worked!
so im wondering if maybe the stock ics wasnt properly deodexed, or maybe with holics rom something special was done? when i get the time im gonna try contacting bananacakes and see if maybe he can help me set up a stock base, or possibly use a stock base he may have laying around...ive tried making my own stock rom in the past from the RUU but got the same errors as the att stock rom for chefs...
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Hi all...read about Sense themes for other phones on CM7...
I downloaded the sense.apk and I want to know if it is in fact working ok on the TB.
I'm not a fan of LPP, ADW, etc. I like sense. Hate all you want...lol.
I would like to try the CM underpinnings with the Sense face/feel.
TIA!
you are completely defeating the purpose of putting CM7 on your thunderbolt. If you like sense stick with the sense roms if you hate sense like a good percentage of people out there go with CM7.
Maybe I'm not understanding properly.
A sense theme is a bit different than running sense itself, no?
I would like the speed and battery life of CM7 but the look of sense.
The speed and life would still be CM7 based, not sense based...or am I way off base here?
Maybe a better question is...has anyone on CM7 tried a sense theme and reported differences in speed and battery life...?
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you are completely defeating the purpose of putting CM7 on your thunderbolt. If you like sense stick with the sense roms if you hate sense like a good percentage of people out there go with CM7.
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Not true at all. Some use CM7 because Sense is so bloated, not necessarily for looks. I wouldn't mind having the speed and lightweight of CM7 with the looks of Sense.
Also, to the OP. You can make the device look like Sense with the 'HTC Elegance, theme and LPP with some tweaks to make it look like Sense, but it would be too much to get the Sense launcher onto CM7 if that's what you're asking.
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Exactly what I was getting at. Thank you!
I'm looking for the correct link for these themes that will work on the TBolt.
Or...is CM7 generic in this nature? I've got a great CM7 nandroid I keep going back and playing with...this would be the icing on the cake possibly.
Try inj3cttheory its a desensed Rom with most of the best parts of sense lest in its fast great battery life but still has a slight sense feel
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Exactly what I was getting at. Thank you!
I'm looking for the correct link for these themes that will work on the TBolt.
Or...is CM7 generic in this nature? I've got a great CM7 nandroid I keep going back and playing with...this would be the icing on the cake possibly.
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If you are using themes, as long as you download one that says 'hdpi', you should be set. I'm not sure if HTC Elegance is hdpi (i believe it is), but as long as it's hdpi you shouldn't have a problem using the theme on CM7
This should, in fact, work on CM7 for the TB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993277
enjoy
Thank you to all. Gonna give CM a fighting chance.
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Totally forget the name right now, but there is a launcher that will mimic the Sense style launcher.... It also does a few other styles. Hopefully someone else knows what I'm talking about and can give you a name.
So I just flashed a Rom encompassing the new OTC update with Sense 3.0... I was thinking of removing Sense altogether and going for the cleaner look which I had with CM7. Although I would like to keep some of the functionality that comes with sense this time around. I remember the older versions of sense had some cleaner looking skins but in this new version we are stuck using the huge black rosie on every crappy skin. I found some skins supposedly for Sense 3.0 especially this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15548167
Although I tried installing a couple of these skins they just don't work. If anyone can port the one posted above I would be happy to buy a round of beers (15$).
Cheers guys I hope somebody can make our phones look better!
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So I just flashed a Rom encompassing the new OTC update with Sense 3.0... I was thinking of removing Sense altogether and going for the cleaner look which I had with CM7. Although I would like to keep some of the functionality that comes with sense this time around. I remember the older versions of sense had some cleaner looking skins but in this new version we are stuck using the huge black rosie on every crappy skin. I found some skins supposedly for Sense 3.0 especially this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15548167
Although I tried installing a couple of these skins they just don't work. If anyone can port the one posted above I would be happy to buy a round of beers (15$).
Cheers guys I hope somebody can make our phones look better!
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hi there.i feel you bro,have u tried skins from
here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122229
and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048894
i've used some of them back then but couldn't remember on what rom. they basically same skins on each thread, but for different frameworks. just try which 1 works
IINM slate3d does have multiple version too...cant remember..lol
Sense 2.1? 3.0? 3.5? Or a 2.1/3.0 mix?
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Sense is like a fat chick.... both lag IRL.
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Both lag on an underpowered old phone like N1.
Try running it on a bit newer HW.
Functionality-wise, plain Android or CM is nowhere near touching it, no matter what you load it with. The best Sense alternative is MIUI.
To the OP: I believe you're asking the preference in specific ROMs, and not just in Sense style. Sense style - 3.0 and 3.5 are both fine and their differences are slim (I dislike what was done to calendar in Sense 3.5, like the changes in Quick Settings, don't care about dialer changes, and like the overall perceived speed-up). Specific ROMs - you'll need to try to decide. Having tried to load Sense 3.0 on HTC Desire, N1's closest sibling, I believe it's responsive enough to work with, but on a bit slow side, and depends on the "tuning" of the specific ROM.
Can you do it?
Folks over at sgs2 have been trying to port it over for quite sometime now. I doubt you will see it anytime soon. Besides do you really want sense?
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Yes, I want Sence I've had so many HTC with Sense and like it especially 3.5.
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Folks over at sgs2 have been trying to port it over for quite sometime now. I doubt you will see it anytime soon. Besides do you really want sense?
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Do i want sense? Yes, Its great! Touchwiz is not as refined.
Sense features i miss
The great Audio player, Better than power amp (In my opinion)
Fantastic lockscreen (customizable)
Great People, weather and calendar widgets
Perfect Dialpad
Well designed SMS and email client
And all the other sense themed widgets.
I know i lot of these features can be added with apps from the market, But none i have found so far have the Tidy uniform look of sense. Parts of touchwiz look like they have been made by a colour blind monkey! Also one of my biggest gripes with touchwiz is the lockscreen (poor animation, lack of customization and sometimes unresponsive) If i try to use a different lockscreen, NoLED stops working, which i like because the lack of a physical notification LED.
So far i have tried-
SPB shell 3D - expensive, and still needs some work for are device, but looks cool. More looks over substance
Launcher Pro - Its OK, just basic
Go laucher, Go Locker, Go Contacts - Good attempt, just not as refined and not optimized for the screen resolution of the note
The note, hardware wise, is the best Phone (yes it is a phone) I have owned. Personally i feel touchwiz needs some work.
Now others may love touhwiz, So i do not want this thread to turn into a fanboi thread of either way! This is just my opinion, its not intended to irritate anybody.
For one, i would love to see a sense rom for such great hardware!
Overall i like the note, and with any luck ICS will null my gripes.
Sorry to OP if i have hijacked this thread, Just sparked all my (common) sense thoughts off at once
Also best place for questions is the Q&A section.
Take it easy
O_G
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no wont be done
For me TouchWiz and Sense is same ****. Go Launcher is normal. Holo is the best launcher I ever use. I hope samsung will not forget or ignore about this.
It was hard to get used to touchwiz after Htv Sense for first few days. I tried to find similar widgets to make it more look and function like htc sense. Then as more I get used to touchwiz the less I hated it. If I had a choice I would still prefer htc sense as already mentioned it is pretty well designed graphically and functionally out of the box. But I discover some touchwiz features missing in htc sense too. For instance uninstalling apps right from the app drawer is awesome just as practical as uninstalling on iphone. Samsung touchwiz seems to have it all as separate widgets and os wise but they are not as a whole package in terms of visual integrity and not as functional as sense considering each app separately. Some of features like remote tracking is not even in default rom unless you add them urself later which takes some research to even find out it's even possible. HTC sense serves it all as a whole package , even the navigating software you can purchase it right from the htc location widget and it is adapted to rest of widgets. Contact integration from different accounts like facebook, google, twitter etc is merged automatically on htc sense by choice which is missing on touchwiz. You have to add your htcsense user id and pass only once on Sense and it is recognized automatically on related apps like "htc likes" but on touchwiz you have to add your samsung account each time again and again for apps like "samsung apps" etc... Considering outstanding hardware features of Gnote I have no intension to go back to htc just for sense as none of their devices are even close to gnote recently but I would definitely like to see samsung engineers put more effort on improving touchwiz in terms of compatible graphic design, integrated all-in features , user friendly ui to make it more competitive against htc sense which seems to be only superiority of htc devices still left.
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Not going to happen people. Have you EVER seen a non HTC device with Sense? Correct, and that won't change.
Moto Milestone had sense port
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Im surprised it took 4 months for this kind of thread to pop up. I will never understand the ram hogging hype. It reminds me of iphone users bragging about a million apps so they can swipe the screen from left to right doing nothing.
But all in all we are using android which gives us plenty of options. If a clone of sense doesnt work. Theres always that option of making it yourself.
I swore launcher pro widgets were a exact replica of htc sense. Matched up with a theme and it was good to go. Plus that customizable widget app that did more things then htc lockscreen. But im guessing this isnt good enough.
Sense used to be great and now it's just too bloated
Thanks for the responses. I guess its each to here own. Now i have been assigned to this forum, i shall put this thread in its correct place.
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sense just has the best dialer avaible. the touchwiz dialer just doesnt find if i search for "uiop" and there is clearly a "qwertz uiop" in the contacts. sense dialer finds that.
aldo the touchwiz keyboard is odd... long press makes caps lock chars... sense gives you signs like "+ -*& %". i solved that with swiftkey x... but for the dialer theres no replacement right now. ex dialer is the closest but it needs 10 seconds or more to load the call log. thats not acceptable.
i like that the phone features of a phone are excelent, not just satisfiyng.
Why are there two of the exact same thread..?
From the exact same person..
Sense is an abomination, why would you want to buy the fastest phone available just to bog it down with bloatware, reducing it to a level of performance of a 1GHz single-core? But, to each his own - sadly, no way to make a Sense rom for a non-HTC device, if only for legality reasons. Sense is, at least partly, proprietary code.
Sense is the best out of the box android UI. Period.
I've just recently got my Galaxy Note and I'll admit I do miss the sense from my HTC Desire HD. Personally, it seems more intuitive when it comes to shortcuts, integration and it is visually appealing. However, I know it slows down the phone as it did that to my HTC Desire HD, especially when I updated to the latest sense. It's very laggy and the amount of animations are completely unnecessary. I don't need an animation of the page swivelling onto the screen when unlocking the phone. I'll miss the ease of access to certain things, but I want to get use to touchwiz.
There is an option to get Sense 3.0 or 3.5
Hi All,
there is an easier way to get sense plus even more ....
that is the only phone HTC HD2
you can get it cheap on ebay aution...
like mine had... and you love it, it flash from WM6.5 to WP7 to android .. to Ubuntu.... and more ...
wilson_sony said:
Hi All,
there is an easier way to get sense plus even more ....
that is the only phone HTC HD2
you can get it cheap on ebay aution...
like mine had... and you love it, it flash from WM6.5 to WP7 to android .. to Ubuntu.... and more ...
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LOL! You come to a Note forum to suggest an HD2? A phone that's so inferior it's not even funny?
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LOL! You come to a Note forum to suggest an HD2? A phone that's so inferior it's not even funny?
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Sometimes HD2 with sense onboard acts smoother than Note with TW.
So if you want Sense, HD2 is your perfect choice.
Its hardly possible to port Sense to Note or other non-HTC devices.
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I want to start a thread to find out what the majority of people want for their Vivid. I think we were close to perfection with some of the GB Sense 3.5 ROM's. Now there is ICS... Take the time to tour other devices XDA threads and current ICS ROM's. There is starting to be some really cool stuff out there. Remember, this is just a wish list some or none of this may be currently possible now or ever. Along with all of the standard root, debloat, de-odexed etc, personally, I would like:
OC
Sense 4.0
Amaze Camera/(or other new boss future camera)
enhanced beats/(other sound tweak)
better battery life
Possible new theme selection (which I am told is not possible yet for Sense 4.0)
Wi/Fi Tether
FYI, I saw a cool non-sense ICS ROM out there that has a really cool sense like lockscreen and a bunch of launcher tweaks. It was for the Desire, I think...
AOSP gingerbread or ICS
I love stock and Sense 3.6.
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FYI, I saw a cool non-sense ICS ROM out there that has a really cool sense like lockscreen and a bunch of launcher tweaks. It was for the Desire, I think...
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DesireHD/Inspire - from LordClockan. Lockscreen has 2 fixed along with 2 that are replaceable. Have not been on the DHD forum for almost 2 weeks so not sure what new developments they have but pretty sick! Speed, stability, AND TOYS!
check out some of this coolness!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444235
ICS
Sense 4.0
Eclair Lock screen
Volume boost.
Overclockable ICS kernel
Amaze camera
CRT animations
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Rooted CM9 or ICS MIUI
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Rooted CM9 or ICS MIUI
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This
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+1 seriously cannot wait ! Witbthis hardware... =amaZing!
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CM9 is going to be great for sure. However, I'm a bit torn because I really like sense... I'm running CM9 on my nook color and although, the hardware is a bit laggy, the software is nice.
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CM9 is my dream....
waiting patiently for the cubed
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Definitely this.
For starters either Sense 3.0 with ICS or Sense 4.0. Sense 3.5 is horribly ugly and 3.6 is better but the proprietary apps Music, Reader, Watch, etc look MUCH better on Sense 3.0. Just not feeling the bland straight edges and all black.
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Sense 4.0
De-bloated
De-odexed
Root
Better battery life ...
Voice control [like Siri on the iPhone 4s, or better]
Mostly, I'm happy with the stock AT&T vivid [after Rooting & de-bloating, etc] ... I just moved from a mostly stock HTC Rhodium, so Android is a whole new world of fun & learning.
I'm not sure exactly how Siri works on the iphone 4s but you can hold the search button on android devices and it lets you send a text, make a call, look up directions, listen to a certain song/artist/album, send an email, set an alarm, get a map of a place, go to a certain url, make a note to yourself, or google search things. It just doesn't talk to you...
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I'm not sure exactly how Siri works on the iphone 4s but you can hold the search button on android devices and it lets you send a text, make a call, look up directions, listen to a certain song/artist/album, send an email, set an alarm, get a map of a place, go to a certain url, make a note to yourself, or google search things. It just doesn't talk to you...
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This is from an article... "DiClemente notes that Google is expected to offer something called “Assistant,” as part of the next version of its Android operating system, version 5.0, dubbed “Jelly Bean.” That will be a more advanced voice-recognition search than Google currently offers, with the ability to tap into Gmail, the “Google+” social networking service, etc."
I agree, it would be awesome!
Am running Unlocked, Rooted, OTA, the ICS with 3.6, I like it but would love:
Capychimp's APM from Sensation
more settings on notification bar, like BC's or RCmix3D
a music player that allows sound enhancements over BT
and of course wifi hotspot
I would be happy just with these.
I have already sent Capy a message asking if it was possible to get the APM, and how this old fart can put it on, now to find the rest.
Cheers
Jeff