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There was such a good selection on the desire.there appears to be such a limited selection on the galaxy s...none seem that good.
Can people recommend which is best and why? Looking for a fast and stable rom.
My rom is xxjm1 by the way.
Not yet, stock is still the most trouble free for now. Won't last long though.
Its my understand (and hopefullness) that most devs FroYo. Most (if not all) are just themed and optimized roms at the moment.
We want froyo !
Yes, most devs are waiting for froyo, just because everyone will want to upgrade, and there is just no justification to make a custom rom with 2.1 just for a few weeks.
Have you not tried SamSet? Dude there are about 4 different Custom ROMs on XDA :| how can you say there are no good ones as you haven't even tried any?
Devs are waiting for FroYo and Cyanogen Mod, that'll increase the ROM majority. The Desire has FroYo (Official) AND Cyanogen Mod, so there are tons of ROMs. Stock isn't the best atm, SamSets is the best for now.
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Have you not tried SamSet? Dude there are about 4 different Custom ROMs on XDA :| how can you say there are no good ones as you haven't even tried any?
Devs are waiting for FroYo and Cyanogen Mod, that'll increase the ROM majority. The Desire has FroYo (Official) AND Cyanogen Mod, so there are tons of ROMs. Stock isn't the best atm, SamSets is the best for now.
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first off, 4 roms is nothing.
Secondly, setzuna or whatever he is called produced a bog standard rom for the desire.
I want quality original roms. Hopefully asop pure roms like cyanogen.
The galaxy s roms are poop at the moment.
Really...
Desire has 6month head start, also helps when the desire is clone of nexus one which is reference dev gadget so what do you expect. Have look at other latest devices that came out in last 2 months and tell me if they even have roms yet, you have been spoilt.
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Agreed, ROM selection for the Hero (my last phone) were much better. I've tried HackEclair, Doc's StockRomMod and SamSet (currently the one I'm using).
From reading the forums, it really does look like all the devs are just waiting on the official Froyo release. I also read somewhere that the ROMs must be based off of official firmwares or else they won't work, which would make sense why it's difficult to get Sense-like interfaces on the phone.
Either way, it's only a few weeks - if that - until the official Froyo!
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first off, 4 roms is nothing.
Secondly, setzuna or whatever he is called produced a bog standard rom for the desire.
I want quality original roms. Hopefully asop pure roms like cyanogen.
The galaxy s roms are poop at the moment.
Really...
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Seriously? did you not even read my post at all?
you CAN'T produce a 'bog' standard ROM for the SGS yet, It's been done for the other Galaxy S version(s) (ASOP ROM) but that's in BETA stage and some features don't even work. We have to wait for Cyanogen.
If you really want 'quality' original ROMs make them yourself. The devs here do it in their free time and aren't doing this to tailor your every suit and need, and you don't pay them for it and they do it out of sole interest. SetENZA makes ROMs because he obviously enjoys it and the challenge, and shares it with the community, and you can't compare the SGS and Desire development, they're both entirely different and the SGS is newer, meaning the Desire has more backing.
How are they 'poop' if you haven't even tested a single custom ROM?
I agree that we need more development but seriously, if you are implying that no dev is making a good custom ROM at the moment then you are VERY wrong. SamSet is the most stable one for now, DocRambone is stripped entirely so check his ROMs out. You need to read up a bit more, we all know that there is slow ROM development and for a REASON.
Hurry up Sammy.
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Seriously? did you not even read my post at all?
you CAN'T produce a 'bog' standard ROM for the SGS yet, It's been done for the other Galaxy S version(s) (ASOP ROM) but that's in BETA stage and some features don't even work. We have to wait for Cyanogen.
If you really want 'quality' original ROMs make them yourself. The devs here do it in their free time and aren't doing this to tailor your every suit and need, and you don't pay them for it and they do it out of sole interest. SetENZA makes ROMs because he obviously enjoys it and the challenge, and shares it with the community, and you can't compare the SGS and Desire development, they're both entirely different and the SGS is newer, meaning the Desire has more backing.
How are they 'poop' if you haven't even tested a single custom ROM?
I agree that we need more development but seriously, if you are implying that no dev is making a good custom ROM at the moment then you are VERY wrong. SamSet is the most stable one for now, DocRambone is stripped entirely so check his ROMs out. You need to read up a bit more, we all know that there is slow ROM development and for a REASON.
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hi,
Please don't make these assumptions. I have tried a couple of the roms and am back to my original stock rom now because none of them seem better than it.
I also wasn't suggesting that people weren't making roms or that things won't get better. I am just disappointed its taking a long time. I had good 2.1 roms within a month of me having a desire, asop 2.2 within 2 months.
Anyhow, the roms have a long way to go it seems... They aren't the best at the moment but I'm sure they will be great soon enough.
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hi,
Please don't make these assumptions. I have tried a couple of the roms and am back to my original stock rom now because none of them seem better than it.
I also wasn't suggesting that people weren't making roms or that things won't get better. I am just disappointed its taking a long time. I had good 2.1 roms within a month of me having a desire, asop 2.2 within 2 months.
Anyhow, the roms have a long way to go it seems... They aren't the best at the moment but I'm sure they will be great soon enough.
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Okay, fair enough
Yeah but with patience we will see a fair share of ROMs in the next month, i guess these things take time, the Desire did get pretty popular though as it is HTC and Samsung is known for being crap with updates, but now the SGS is getting better and slowly it will overtake the Desire, i assure you.
Once Froyo is released, i think we can expect more than 4 ROMs
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Okay, fair enough
Yeah but with patience we will see a fair share of ROMs in the next month, i guess these things take time, the Desire did get pretty popular though as it is HTC and Samsung is known for being crap with updates, but now the SGS is getting better and slowly it will overtake the Desire, i assure you.
Once Froyo is released, i think we can expect more than 4 ROMs
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Impt point to note is when Froyo is released by Samsung, because Samsung is known for its delays and lack of enthusiasm, that we all take for granted from HTC =( I miss my HD2 and Desire
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Impt point to note is when Froyo is released by Samsung, because Samsung is known for its delays and lack of enthusiasm, that we all take for granted from HTC =( I miss my HD2 and Desire
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Disagreed.
Yes, Samsung has been crap in the past but with this phone they're pushing a lot out. We are yet to see how they respond to the Froyo update and how they maintain it, so you may be right, but i think that in this case Samsung will release it and *hopefully* maintain it, if not then XDA is here to maintain all phones, of course
HD2 has potential for Android as it's been ported, but WinMo is horrible and the Sense interface just makes it that little bit better, so glad i ditched WinMo for Android. Desire is awesome but the inferior screen and sensitivity made me get the SGS because the hardware is just that little bit better
Not to get on a rant here guys, but I came from Win mo and those guys really work it over there......
Roms galore of every size and shape. I kinda expected that from this really open platform.
No new looks , no new feel.
Wassup, are we waiting for things to shake loose or what.
Must every one roll their own?
Just asking......
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Not to get on a rant here guys, but I came from Win mo and those guys really work it over there......
Roms galore of every size and shape. I kinda expected that from this really open platform.
No new looks , no new feel.
Wassup, are we waiting for things to shake loose or what.
Must every one roll their own?
Just asking......
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
Where is your rom?
Have you read anything on this forum?
And fyi, you can dl launchers and home screens to change looks without a rom right from app store. Search = friend
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Also, I doubt much ROM development will happen (except for a few champions of the people, like DG) until the Samsung official Android 2.2 comes out, and more importantly, the source code for that 2.2 version is released.
But to be honest, with a piece of hardware this capable, even the 2.1 ROMs are pretty sweet. That and other projects are currently ongoing. Take for example the Vodoo project, which basically has entirely scrapped the default filesystem, and gone with EXT2. And will soon be coming with other tweaks and options for the awesome SAMOLED screen in our phones. Those aren't exactly simple bits of code being whipped up.
Yes, I come from the WinMo side of XDA as well, but around here, it's quality not quantity that counts.
Yikes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787194
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787194
just some ideas... when froyo gets to the captivate, im sure they will start cranking them out even more...
When ryoung checks in again in a year there will surely be more roms.
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Everyone is so mean to the OP. He cant help it he is sofa king we tar did.
It's actually understandable why the OP is asking. I too spent a lot of time with WinMo and was used to having 10+ ROMs available. But I quickly realized that WinMo NEEDed modified ROMs just to give it functionality and performance. When I got my HTC Touch HD I thought I had the pinnacle of mobile phone technology, but yet I was still always trying new ROMS because I wasn't satisfied with the performance and functionality.
This Captivate is my first Android phone and from what I can tell we don't actually NEED a ROM to make the phone awesome.
WinMo needed ROMs to be a good experience, hence there was a lot of people focused on that aspect of development.
Android, and especially our awesome phone, doesn't need a new ROM to be a good experience so most of the genius developers are able to focus on other projects like various applications rather than just simply trying to get our phones to function.
WinMo required lots of hacking and ROMs to get the same functionality that our phone has by simply installing a new widget or app.
So to the OP, if you ever check back, you don't see a ton of ROMs because frankly they're not required. Welcome to Android! It's a much smoother and satisfying experience than your previous WinMo experience. I can say that because I was just like you just a couple months ago.
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It's actually understandable why the OP is asking. I too spent a lot of time with WinMo and was used to having 10+ ROMs available. But I quickly realized that WinMo NEEDed modified ROMs just to give it functionality and performance. When I got my HTC Touch HD I thought I had the pinnacle of mobile phone technology, but yet I was still always trying new ROMS because I wasn't satisfied with the performance and functionality.
This Captivate is my first Android phone and from what I can tell we don't actually NEED a ROM to make the phone awesome.
WinMo needed ROMs to be a good experience, hence there was a lot of people focused on that aspect of development.
Android, and especially our awesome phone, doesn't need a new ROM to be a good experience so most of the genius developers are able to focus on other projects like various applications rather than just simply trying to get our phones to function.
WinMo required lots of hacking and ROMs to get the same functionality that our phone has by simply installing a new widget or app.
So to the OP, if you ever check back, you don't see a ton of ROMs because frankly they're not required. Welcome to Android! It's a much smoother and satisfying experience than your previous WinMo experience. I can say that because I was just like you just a couple months ago.
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and not all of us know how to make a rom quite yet
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and not all of us know how to make a rom quite yet
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Yeah, I don't doubt that there WILL be more ROMs. Especially with the scrabble to get Froyo before Samsung releases it. This is a new phone after all. I just know that with my old WinMo phones the first thing I would do with them is feel unsatisfied and attempt to install some hacked ROM to feel a little less satisfied.
With this phone I'm just happy right out of the box. Of course I don't use the GPS so maybe if I did I'd grumble a bit. But otherwise I think this phone is just incredible.
is it me or is it the rom developments for incs has slowed down significantly?
i dont see any new roms popping up.. most of the recently active roms have slowed down too.. are we getting left behind?
think (hope) it will pickup after first official ICS Sense roms starts to leak. on the other hand, incredible S is starting to be a bit outdated (although it has some decent hardware), more focus seems to be on the dual core, more popular devices. we gotta admit, incredible s isn't that popular - we don't even officially have it on any carriers in my country.
I think the main cause is 'android fragmentation'. You may have heard of this term before. There's too many android devices, each further HTC device release caused all of us to separate into different development sections.
Back in the G1, Nexus one days it was much easier since there were relatively few devices..
Now all the new stuff's out, lots of people want to jump to Galaxy Nexus, so on.
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think (hope) it will pickup after first official ICS Sense roms starts to leak. on the other hand, incredible S is starting to be a bit outdated (although it has some decent hardware), more focus seems to be on the dual core, more popular devices. we gotta admit, incredible s isn't that popular - we don't even officially have it on any carriers in my country.
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The funny thing is dual core doesn't offer much improvement over the single, it seems like a lot of hype going on over nothing. probably over 3/4th or I dare say 90+% of the market is still written for single core applications.
I have the asus transformer 1 and most times I feel like performance is on par if not the same with the IncS, but when compared to my HTC Flyer (View) it feels much speedier since it's got a 1.5Ghz clock speed, the extra 500mhz shows sometimes. It takes heavy games like Shadowgun to see the difference between all devices, which can't be seen much in general surfing and regular phone related app use.
This is one thing that Apple has the advantage to in their gameplay strategy for devs, since they keep the releases specific, once a year. Development of their devices can be pooled and properly 'coordinated' without them moving onto different branches due to hardware, SoC, camera issues and so on.
Agree, if the first ICS HTC ROMs are leaked, development will gain momentum.
Right now, lots of work is spent on getting the camera working in ICS AOSP.
also, we gotta look at this ROM development as a hobby of the devs, one that usually starts with enthusiasm but over time proves to be very time consuming and falls last on their list of priorities. and unfortunately not a lot of people are willing or have the knowledge to fill in for the devs that get out of the game. i'm still reading up on android basics and kernel development, trying to make my first mix. Custom ROM development won't pay the bills, its mostly charity work.
You got to be grateful and appreciate their work.
Just last week there was a developer inviting testers for his vivo port http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475459 and yet strangely, I don't see you contributing anything to the thread... in fact the response from the whole incredible s community was actually pretty unwelcoming. If I was a developer I would bypass this phone also, which seems to be pretty much what happened 6+ months ago.
Somehow, I missed that thread. I tend to not really read the index in general section often but I read the index of the dev section frequently.
I'm trying to jumpstart some action into the IncS, may not be much, but I have been building CM7.2 kangs and in the middle of testing building a CM9 kang, see how it goes.
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Just last week there was a developer inviting testers for his vivo port http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475459 and yet strangely, I don't see you contributing anything to the thread... in fact the response from the whole incredible s community was actually pretty unwelcoming. If I was a developer I would bypass this phone also, which seems to be pretty much what happened 6+ months ago.
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i seemed to have missed his thread. will go over and take a look now
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also, we gotta look at this ROM development as a hobby of the devs, one that usually starts with enthusiasm but over time proves to be very time consuming and falls last on their list of priorities. and unfortunately not a lot of people are willing or have the knowledge to fill in for the devs that get out of the game. i'm still reading up on android basics and kernel development, trying to make my first mix. Custom ROM development won't pay the bills, its mostly charity work.
You got to be grateful and appreciate their work.
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i understand that, but the point that i want to point out here is that is our device getting left behind? im already thinking whether to sell my incs off and get a sensation instead but thinking back how hard nik and the guys worked so hard, it held me back for a moment
So you need to flash your phone 5 times or more per day to be satisfied? Why not use it instead? Heavy case of ORD .
hey bro,see this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490881
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So you need to flash your phone 5 times or more per day to be satisfied? Why not use it instead? Heavy case of ORD .
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lol ORD. not that man.. it's just that i see new roms popping out in the dhd section and the people there are always active and they never sleep. just wondering how can the dhd (old phone) be more popular than incs (newer) lol
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hey bro,see this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490881
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i saw it bro. im pretty much worked up right now haha~ cant wait to try it!
There's a lot of things ppl can "masturbate" to with their phones. Like popularity with more ROMs like Desire HD, Sensation, Galaxy S2. I do it to longer battery life, better camera, radio reception, and it also fit better in my hands and palms ( at least compared to the DHD). More ROMs do not mean better quality ROMs, I'm fully satisfied right now with ARHD, and with the state of Quattro, I haven't even tried it. We're getting ICS officially that's good enough, I can wait for another stable custom ROM based on that. Be happy with what you know and have, ignorant is bliss. And I'm kinda gettings tired of ORD myself, maybe a case of cured one, until something remarkable new popped up .
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There's a lot of things ppl can "masturbate" to with their phones. Like popularity with more ROMs like Desire HD, Sensation, Galaxy S2. I do it to longer battery life, better camera, radio reception, and it also fit better in my hands and palms ( at least compared to the DHD). More ROMs do not mean better quality ROMs, I'm fully satisfied right now with ARHD, and with the state of Quattro, I haven't even tried it. We're getting ICS officially that's good enough, I can wait for another stable custom ROM based on that. Be happy with what you know and have, ignorant is bliss. And I'm kinda gettings tired of ORD myself, maybe a case of cured one, until something remarkable new popped up .
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Amen bro!
I'm with you in every word you said!
+1 for your post.
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bigeyes0x0 said:
There's a lot of things ppl can "masturbate" to with their phones. Like popularity with more ROMs like Desire HD, Sensation, Galaxy S2. I do it to longer battery life, better camera, radio reception, and it also fit better in my hands and palms ( at least compared to the DHD). More ROMs do not mean better quality ROMs, I'm fully satisfied right now with ARHD, and with the state of Quattro, I haven't even tried it. We're getting ICS officially that's good enough, I can wait for another stable custom ROM based on that. Be happy with what you know and have, ignorant is bliss. And I'm kinda gettings tired of ORD myself, maybe a case of cured one, until something remarkable new popped up .
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It's like you said =)
Sometimes you don't need a lot of things to have a great experience.
I remember back in the LG P500 days, there was only one rom and one kernel and the thing was fantastic.Even later new tweaks came,new roms,new kernels but the simpler ones were the best.
I like very much nikhil007mmus's work and Virtuous Team work, both very stable and fast.
I even suggested nikhil007mmus to talk with Francisco Franco to share some ideas to make even greater kernels for our device (kernel devs, don't get me wrong, I am not saying your work is bad, I don't even test it, but what I do know is that this man makes GREAT kernels, with great performance,great battery life and it keeps them simple.I tested his kernels in the P500 (Wich made the thing fast as hell (For a 600MHz device of course) and in the Nexus S (I got 2 full days of battery life with wifi,3g,lots of calls,etc etc and fast as hell).
Hope it get's even better here =)
Problem is the Incredible S was not a popular phone to begin among devs. Not like the Nexus One, Desire HD, Sensation and Galaxy S II.
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The bad and nice thing of HTC phones is, they have a bunch of devices with practically nearly identical internal HW. Thus you don't actually really need that many devs on one device in particular. The way I see it, quality is way more important, we already have Android fragmentation like some say, now we also have custom ROM fragmentation . All Sense 3.5 roms failed for me when toggling data. It would not be that much of a problem on Samsung as they don't disable data during call, but HTC do, and sometimes after call data doesn't come up which is a major problem for me as I need auto-sync for a bunch of services and it is the most annoying bug of all. I wish devs collaborated more for less ROMs but better quality. It also means less duplicated effort.
For now I'm using a ROM Cleaned ARHD 2.1.3 with Ultra Smooth Rosie, batt mod, odexed, and some tweaks in init.d. It's smooth like butter and I think that I can be happy until whenever ICS comes out, unless some Sense 3.5 custom ROM devs fixed the bug above. Just use your phone, the best is yet to come. And if you're too trigger happy buy Samsung GSII to flash around and chaotic development. My brother has one and I am actually the one modding it for him. It's insanely fast yet I do not want it (because of aesthetic, functional reasons and knowing what is enough) even though I can afford it.
Before any of you say anything negative this isnt to bug other devs this is a thread for people to request/ ask for things me and the other devs to do after they have finished their other projects.
-Firefox OS
-LG UI(fix lockscreen)
-CM7
-Sense 4.1
-cm10.1 WiFi and Bluetooth
-cm10 WiFi authentication issue
-S-OFF
-Roms for cdma version
-Sense 4.1.2
Just pop requests underneath and ill update reguarly.
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Before any of you say anything negative this isnt to bug other devs this is a thread for people to request/ ask for things me and the other devs to do after they have finished their other projects.
-Firefox OS
-LG UI
-CM7
Just pop requests underneath and ill update reguarly.
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Sense 4.1 (If possible)
Shad0wPanda said:
Before any of you say anything negative this isnt to bug other devs this is a thread for people to request/ ask for things me and the other devs to do after they have finished their other projects.
-Firefox OS
-LG UI
-CM7
Just pop requests underneath and ill update reguarly.
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Hahaha, heres an LG UI Rom, iv'e had it for a while, just lockscreen doesnt work at all! so slide down NC and hit settings to unlock, then install a custom locker such as holo locker! I'll post in the dev threads when i can be bothered, but test that out..
http://d-h.st/2V2
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i think gettin bt and wifi implemented in cm 10.1 should be a good place to begin
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i think gettin bt and wifi implemented in cm 10.1 should be a good place to begin
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+1
but we really need the devs to go back to work
CM7 FTW
CM7 first ... it would be super buttery smooth for us ...
How are you so certain it'd be "buttery smooth"? Cuz I'm not sure, if not totally negative on that matter.
How are you so certain it'd be "buttery smooth"? Cuz I'm not sure, if not totally negative on that matter.
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Brnt you don't have to flash cm7... What's with all the gingerbread hate??
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I suggest we go back to XP then. It's going to run so much better on our new PCs!
It's not hate, you just get overexcited over nothing without even putting some though into it. Go on, prove me gingerbread will run smoother than JB/ICS, but without these facts your words are nothing.
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I suggest we go back to XP then. It's going to run so much better on our new PCs!
It's not hate, you just get overexcited over nothing without even putting some though into it. Go on, prove me gingerbread will run smoother than JB/ICS, but without these facts your words are nothing.
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I think you have your analogy wrong. Going from a newer version of Windows to an older version of Windows is pointless because...well...it's still Windows.
However, if you were to go from Ubuntu to, say, Slackware, you would definitely see a boost in performance because Slackware is far less taxing on the available resources. The same could be said about going from JB to GB. GB requires less resources and can therefore run smoother/faster on hardware designed for a higher version of Android. This is a well known fact throughout the Android community because nearly every JB or ICS based device has GB ROM development in some form or another.
It's still Android. Roughly 90% of the differences between JB/ICS and GB lie in the overall appearence, not the functionality.
IDEA
Or lets make CM10 even better
Like eliminate WiFi problems and hotspot problems etc :fingers-crossed:
What do you think?
S off would be good.
Not first priority though
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S off would be good.
Not first priority though
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It would be very useful though but it's more HTCs job
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@soupmagnet, i agree entirely with that statement, however, where is the desire coming from for having GingerBread Roms? if it was desired so much, then why not buy a gingerbread phone in the first place? Would've been cheaper and there are still devices on the market, some with faster processors then the Desire C, if you wanted GingerBread, should've bought a GB Device, you don't go buy a brand new Windows 8 PC to deliberately downgrade it to a legacy OS like vista and limit the features you have access to. It lacks all logic in all honesty.. You don't go to sell a phone after use being all like, Yeah it has 2.3.5 GB on it, or brag to your mates, yeah my device is android 2.3.5, fact is 4.2.2 is the best android so far, Android has only improved over time, GB on our device is like an i7 with vista, you just don't do that kind of thing..
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@soupmagnet, i agree entirely with that statement, however, where is the desire coming from for having GingerBread Roms? if it was desired so much, then why not buy a gingerbread phone in the first place? Would've been cheaper and there are still devices on the market, some with faster processors then the Desire C, if you wanted GingerBread, should've bought a GB Device, you don't go buy a brand new Windows 8 PC to deliberately downgrade it to a legacy OS like vista and limit the features you have access to. It lacks all logic in all honesty.. You don't go to sell a phone after use being all like, Yeah it has 2.3.5 GB on it, or brag to your mates, yeah my device is android 2.3.5, fact is 4.2.2 is the best android so far, Android has only improved over time, GB on our device is like an i7 with vista, you just don't do that kind of thing..
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The problem with your logic is that Gingerbread based devices (with a few exceptions) only have hardware that is capable of meeting the low demands of Gingerbread.
For many people, the worth of their device is in its functionality, not its "bragging rights". I will never have Windows on my computer simply because of the features it provides. I use Linux, because of it's speed, stability and and overall functionality. ICS and JB do have some nice additional features, but at a noticeable cost of available resources and stability, and the overall functionality is still nearly the same. While higher versions of Android do provide some "improvements", they are mostly linked to the user interface (which many people don't necessarily like) and there are very few performance improvements. So for you to say that it "lacks all logic" is, well, illogical in itself.
While you may like what JB and ICS have to offer and prefer that for your daily driver, I don't think it's fair to ridicule others' personal preference in Android versions, considering the majority of changes between these versions are exclusive to the UI and not Android itself.
Off-topic... naughty naughty
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Getting back on topic...
It would be nice to see more CDMA support though. I have a shell script, based on bin4ry's exploit, to root the CDMA variants, but it needs to be converted over to Windows' batch scripting language. If anyone wants to have a go at it, just let me know.
As far as ROMs are concerned, we can use the existing GSM ROMs, but a patch will need to be made. It wouldn't be that difficult to implement and would be much easier than creating all new CDMA ROMs.
The biggest problem would be getting a working recovery. I tried unpacking the existing (GSM) recovery and replaced the kernel with the phone's stock kernel but it didn't work out very well. I think a new recovery would need to be built from source, but I'm running into strange compile errors when compiling the stock kernel from source. I don't have experience building custom recovery so it's going to be challenging trying to figure everything out, but I think I can handle it.
Clearly, the need for CDMA support is low, but it's far from non-existent. I'm more than willing to take the reigns on this project, but I may have to take advantage of some of the experience around here, assuming there are those willing to lend a hand.
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The problem with your logic is that Gingerbread based devices (with a few exceptions) only have hardware that is capable of meeting the low demands of Gingerbread.
For many people, the worth of their device is in its functionality, not its "bragging rights". I will never have Windows on my computer simply because of the features it provides. I use Linux, because of it's speed, stability and and overall functionality. ICS and JB do have some nice additional features, but at a noticeable cost of available resources and stability, and the overall functionality is still nearly the same. While higher versions of Android do provide some "improvements", they are mostly linked to the user interface (which many people don't necessarily like) and there are very few performance improvements. So for you to say that it "lacks all logic" is, well, illogical in itself.
While you may like what JB and ICS have to offer and prefer that for your daily driver, I don't think it's fair to ridicule others' personal preference in Android versions, considering the majority of changes between these versions are exclusive to the UI and not Android itself.
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I stand corrected, thankyou for clearing that up for me, i never thought to look at it in this way, however, when you do get a working recovering, i do so believe i added cdma support in SHTD, the rom was both configured for cdma and for gsm, as it is in the build.prop also!, however a cdma aosp kernel would be needed
cm10.1 wifi bluetooth fixed would be a cool rom... Devs plz fix it... We noobs will be greatfull to you......:laugh::laugh::good:
akashgartia said:
cm10.1 wifi bluetooth fixed would be a cool rom... Devs plz fix it... We noobs will be greatfull to you......:laugh::laugh::good:
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Don't rush them. They have other stuff to do. If you want it done, you could learn and try it yourself.
Would any developer be willing to create an MIUI or IOS ROM for the HTC Desire 626 Metro PCs?
MIUI: Would they- No ; Could they- Yes, but there is not a single reason to do so.
iOS - Impossible
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Whoareyou said:
MIUI: Would they- No ; Could they- Yes, but there is not a single reason to do so.
iOS - Impossible
Also, wrong section. Please try to follow forum guidelines and post in the appropriate section (q&a)
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Will repost in q&a. Thanks so much for your kind answer. Looks like you got it all figured out.
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iOS - Impossible
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Probably a reference to JoyOS, an iOS cloned theme that was last seen around the time CM 7 was still the most popular ROM. To my knowledge the original Chinese forum which was doing the heavy lifting abandoned this quite some time ago. With the exception of the Goophone I don't think anyone is doing full conversion ROMs which resemble iOS anymore and their systems don't seem to have been dumped and translated yet, which by this time indicates there is no interest.
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Probably a reference to JoyOS, an iOS cloned theme that was last seen around the time CM 7 was still the most popular ROM. To my knowledge the original Chinese forum which was doing the heavy lifting abandoned this quite some time ago. With the exception of the Goophone I don't think anyone is doing full conversion ROMs which resemble iOS anymore and their systems don't seem to have been dumped and translated yet, which by this time indicates there is no interest.
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That explains the reason why there's no more ios rom creation. But, what about MIUI? The os of MIUI has dramatically evolved over the past 4 years. Am I tripping, or is it that no one wants to take a crack at creating a rom for us little guys for devices such as the HTC Desire 626s?
s3llz said:
But, what about MIUI? The os of MIUI has dramatically evolved over the past 4 years. Am I tripping, or is it that no one wants to take a crack at creating a rom for us little guys for devices such as the HTC Desire 626s?
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Believe it or not rom creation is hard and relies on having the sources available (which not all companies will do--HTC used to be better than most about this which is why I took a chance on this phone) and on having developers who have the phone and are capable\willing to do the hard work of making a complete AOSP or Cyangogenmod version of the base operating system. Only after that has been completed do you usually start to see more exotic systems like MIUI, Mokee, ParanoidAndroid, etc, get ported over. Even then there's a dirty little secret about Android roms:
Most of them never get 100% compatibility and hardware support. Ever. Despite the best efforts of the porters.
I had an HTC One V which did well for its time but the camera never quite made it to 100% hardware support. Same thing with bluetooth. My LG Optimus F3 never quite got anywhere with roms and eventually I gave up on it and moved on to the HTC Desire 626s which despite some solid efforts at producing the slimmed down version I am currently running also does not seem to have any real custom android roms.
This goes back to my first point: Rom creation is hard.
That's why even when people put up bounties and buy phones for well known rom hackers who have produced many ports, it still doesn't always result in new roms. Because it's a lot harder than it looks.
I was spoiled initially, I had an LG Optimus V which quickly had a custom rom built for it with very good hardware support which was lean and clean. There were custom kernels for it and it quickly had all sorts of ports of everything from CM7 to JoyOS to MIUI to Mokee and friends within a relatively short period of time. It was the little phone that could and I mistakenly believed that because lightening struck and all sorts of good things were happening this was how it always was. Not even close to the case.
I got lucky. The LG Optimus V was cheap enough that it attracted all sorts of interest from a variety of the right people at the right time. This kind of thing isn't even close to being normal. Some times you get lucky, sometimes you don't.
So why not MIUI? Well I'm sorry to say but for one thing MIUI is heavy. It's heavy like Touchwiz or Sense can be, and that sort of thing can only be helped with massive amounts of optimization. Sadly not every phone has a developer (or group of developers) who are willing to do that sort of thing for free.
So all I can say is appreciate the level of development we've got and be thankful for the work of the developers who have released a slimmer rom for us already. If you need a MIUI rom for your phone, you should probably track the releases here before buying. If you check the forums, you'll see you are not alone. There are lots of people who want MIUI ports.
bornagainpenguin said:
Believe it or not rom creation is hard and relies on having the sources available (which not all companies will do--HTC used to be better than most about this which is why I took a chance on this phone) and on having developers who have the phone and are capable\willing to do the hard work of making a complete AOSP or Cyangogenmod version of the base operating system. Only after that has been completed do you usually start to see more exotic systems like MIUI, Mokee, ParanoidAndroid, etc, get ported over. Even then there's a dirty little secret about Android roms:
Most of them never get 100% compatibility and hardware support. Ever. Despite the best efforts of the porters.
I had an HTC One V which did well for its time but the camera never quite made it to 100% hardware support. Same thing with bluetooth. My LG Optimus F3 never quite got anywhere with roms and eventually I gave up on it and moved on to the HTC Desire 626s which despite some solid efforts at producing the slimmed down version I am currently running also does not seem to have any real custom android roms.
This goes back to my first point: Rom creation is hard.
That's why even when people put up bounties and buy phones for well known rom hackers who have produced many ports, it still doesn't always result in new roms. Because it's a lot harder than it looks.
I was spoiled initially, I had an LG Optimus V which quickly had a custom rom built for it with very good hardware support which was lean and clean. There were custom kernels for it and it quickly had all sorts of ports of everything from CM7 to JoyOS to MIUI to Mokee and friends within a relatively short period of time. It was the little phone that could and I mistakenly believed that because lightening struck and all sorts of good things were happening this was how it always was. Not even close to the case.
I got lucky. The LG Optimus V was cheap enough that it attracted all sorts of interest from a variety of the right people at the right time. This kind of thing isn't even close to being normal. Some times you get lucky, sometimes you don't.
So why not MIUI? Well I'm sorry to say but for one thing MIUI is heavy. It's heavy like Touchwiz or Sense can be, and that sort of thing can only be helped with massive amounts of optimization. Sadly not every phone has a developer (or group of developers) who are willing to do that sort of thing for free.
So all I can say is appreciate the level of development we've got and be thankful for the work of the developers who have released a slimmer rom for us already. If you need a MIUI rom for your phone, you should probably track the releases here before buying. If you check the forums, you'll see you are not alone. There are lots of people who want MIUI ports.
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Thank you. You have truly answered my questions, even ones I wondered about but didn't ask. I am greatly satisfied with what you have said. I understand that rom creation is hard and it can take a toll on the one creating the rom. It's not an easy task. I to had a Samsung galaxy epic 4g touch, which had all sorts of roms for it. But also knowing from experience, you are correct. It is a hit and miss sometimes with some devices you buy. Maybe as newer devices are created, the ability to create ROMs for them gets harder because of the upgraded technology and coding. I could be wrong. On the miui official site, they is a list of devices that they support. But most of them are old school and i surely wouldn't want to take a step down from this phone just to have miui. Then the newer phones in some cases cost more than this phone(referring to the HTC desire 626). I do appreciate the effort that has been put forth for a slimmed down version for this phone. But what I've asked in previous threads was whether or not there is root access yet for the mm update for the metro PCs version of the HTC desire 626s. No bites what so ever. I'm guessing either there isn't any or I'm just not coming across it yet. Any help on that would be highly appreciated. But all in all, I would really like to say thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I appreciate that. You have brought some clarity to the table. I wouldn't mind help supporting a developer who would be willing to create an miui rom for our device once a cyanogenmod version is acquired.
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Thank you. You have truly answered my questions, even ones I wondered about but didn't ask. I am greatly satisfied with what you have said. I understand that rom creation is hard and it can take a toll on the one creating the rom. It's not an easy task. I to had a Samsung galaxy epic 4g touch, which had all sorts of roms for it. But also knowing from experience, you are correct. It is a hit and miss sometimes with some devices you buy. Maybe as newer devices are created, the ability to create ROMs for them gets harder because of the upgraded technology and coding. I could be wrong. On the miui official site, they is a list of devices that they support. But most of them are old school and i surely wouldn't want to take a step down from this phone just to have miui. Then the newer phones in some cases cost more than this phone(referring to the HTC desire 626). I do appreciate the effort that has been put forth for a slimmed down version for this phone. But what I've asked in previous threads was whether or not there is root access yet for the mm update for the metro PCs version of the HTC desire 626s. No bites what so ever. I'm guessing either there isn't any or I'm just not coming across it yet. Any help on that would be highly appreciated. But all in all, I would really like to say thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I appreciate that. You have brought some clarity to the table. I wouldn't mind help supporting a developer who would be willing to create an miui rom for our device once a cyanogenmod version is acquired.
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Metro pcs desire 626s can be rooted
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Metro pcs desire 626s can be rooted
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By any chance would you mind telling me how you rooted it? I know how to unlock the bootloader, but where do I get the custom recover from and su?
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By any chance would you mind telling me how you rooted it? I know how to unlock the bootloader, but where do I get the custom recover from and su?
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The custom recovery is posted in this thread and used this> supersu.zip, fastboot flash the recovery and then flash the supersu.zip in recovery. After flashing supersu and booting up install busybox.
BUT don't forget to make a backup, just incase.
IsaacGuti said:
The custom recovery is posted in this thread and used this> supersu.zip, fastboot flash the recovery and then flash the supersu.zip in recovery. After flashing supersu and booting up install busybox.
BUT don't forget to make a backup, just incase.
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Thank you sir for the info. I am unlocked and rooted again. Now, I'll sit back and wait for some debloated roms to pop up for 6.0.1 2.17.1550.1 Metro PCS.
Hey, if you're still interested in Miui, you could try installing the launcher app, see if that gives you enough of the miui experience to get by until someone eventually makes a port?
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Hey, if you're still interested in Miui, you could try installing the launcher app, see if that gives you enough of the miui experience to get by until someone eventually makes a port?
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Wish I could, but it isn't compatible with mashmallow.
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Wish I could, but it isn't compatible with mashmallow.
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My bad. Here I found the app in my Play Store history, (from before Google made it country specific?) and installed it. It immediately crashed but stayed open. From there I updated it from within the launcher settings and it crashed again. Just as I was about to give up I had a brainstorm and went back into settings and turned off the lockscreen. This made it stop crashing for me. I hunted around for Beautiful Widgets and replaced the clock and installed miui theme for it and everything looks good from here.
So I installed Titanium Backup and uploaded the app. Hopefully this helps you.
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