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Anyone got google to refund the $20 shipping?
I'm on hold with google right now.
If they dont waive shipping, I am cancelling.
If they won't cancel, I will call my credit card company.
UPDATE 2:
They cancelled my order.... I didn't even ask for it to be cancelled.
I asked if they can waive the shipping due to the delays.
Guess not.....
Guess I just wait now and get it cheaper of kijiji in a month or two.
EDIT: UPDATE
The person told me she doesn't have the ability to do a refund on shipping.
She has sent an email to the billing department. They will let me know I guess.
She also told me that if I reject the delivery and have it sent back to sender, I will get a FULL refund INCLUDING SHIPPING.
I told here it's not in written (just like the 1year warranty claim). She said sorry she doesn't know all the details blah blah blah.
TLDR: If they don't refund the shipping, I am calling my credit card company.

THS1989 said:
Anyone got google to refund the $20 shipping?
I'm on hold with google right now.
If they dont waive shipping, I am cancelling.
If they won't cancel, I will call my credit card company.
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Please post if you have any success in doing this. I'm interested as well.

i emailed them regarding shipping too, asking for a refund.
pre-order on 2nd day its announced, paid $20 for 2-days shipping. it's being shipped yesterday and will reach my door on the 23rd??????
UNACCEPTABLE, GOOGLE.

^^ Isn't that a UPS issue then?
Has your unit shipped yet? (OP)

Blainedh said:
^^ Isn't that a UPS issue then?
Has your unit shipped yet? (OP)
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Every time I order 2 day shipping from Amazon (often), it always gets to my door within 2 days. UPS or USPS, it doesn't matter; it just gets here. Being told my device would ship today at the latest by their CS reps and then being emailed that it will get here by the end of next week is unacceptable for $20 shipping. It makes no sense and our shipping costs should be refunded; they were inordinately high in the first place, and now they're not even for 2 day shipping for many people.

The shipping debacle was UPS's fault. I pre-ordered but ended up buying mine from same club. After receiving the package yesterday, its pretty evident Google just shipped pallets of N7's to UPS at which point UPS was responsible for packaging and labeling them for individual customers.
Perhaps Google isn't the villain we are all making them out to be with this ordeal...
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soldeus said:
The shipping debacle was UPS's fault. I pre-ordered but ended up buying mine from same club. After receiving the package yesterday, its pretty evident Google just shipped pallets of N7's to UPS at which point UPS was responsible for packaging and labeling them for individual customers.
Perhaps Google isn't the villain we are all making them out to be with this ordeal...
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if there's any shred of truth to this, i'd still be barking up Google as the seller who's responsible for getting my product to my hands.
UPS suck. surprise. but what's Google gonna do about it??

Got an update. Posted up top.

R3dbeaver said:
if there's any shred of truth to this, i'd still be barking up Google as the seller who's responsible for getting my product to my hands.
UPS suck. surprise. but what's Google gonna do about it??
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The shipping issue is completely Google; UPS ship it at the speed required and paid for by Google. They're only doing what their customer has asked them to do. I've spoken with UPS staff and they've been incredibly helpful.
Mine is being shipped UPS Standard which means it will take a week to get to me. I will almost certainly be refusing the delivery next week.

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She also told me that if I reject the delivery and have it sent back to sender, I will get a FULL refund INCLUDING SHIPPING.
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nice.
as much as it pains me, i might be rejecting my delivery too unless i got a $20 refund credit from Google.

They cancelled my order.........
I asked if they can waive the shipping due to the delays.
Guess not.....

R3dbeaver said:
if there's any shred of truth to this, i'd still be barking up Google as the seller who's responsible for getting my product to my hands.
UPS suck. surprise. but what's Google gonna do about it??
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While this maybe true for the $14 they charged me for 2 day shipping they should have at least gone with FedEx. Anyhow enough complaining I already got my Nexus 7 yesterday.

cancelled my order....but it still arrived?

Just thought I tell you that I cancelled my order for the 8 gig model post two days after I ordered it but then yesterday received an email stating that the thing was on its way over to me and arrived this morning???

Idk. Contact google again?
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If you have not been charged then woo hoo

Jordanooo said:
If you have not been charged then woo hoo
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+1 free Nexus 7? Unless Google storms your house...
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n7 delivered and your credit card charged: if you have a copy of order cancelation, use it for a chargeback with your credit card company. keep n7.
n7 delivered and you're credit card NOT charged: keep n7.
Good luck!

Let us know if you still got charged!

I tried to cancel my order but Google rep told me it had to be done within 60 minutes. It was nor really an issue because after I had bought a 16gig N7 at Sam's (saving about $20) the monet was not there for them to charge my account.
I called my bank and they told me there would be no nsf fee. No problems as far as I am concerned.
Google should fulfill pre-orders before sending them to retail outlets
Cen5
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If its free and you're not charged, why haven't you deleted this post yet??

skynoir said:
n7 delivered and your credit card charged: if you have a copy of order cancelation, use it for a chargeback with your credit card company. keep n7.
n7 delivered and you're credit card NOT charged: keep n7.
Good luck!
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Steal N7? People have no morals or ethics. It's disgusting.
The Truth of the matter is Google specifically stated in their terms and conditions of sale that there were no cancellations. As you are unlikely to have cancelled by phone (because they wouldn't let you) you have probably just used the support web page and sent it in. That isn't valid, your order is still good.
Correct way to move forward now is to phone them and request a return which they have said they will do if you have not opened the package.
The important thing to realise is that right now you have the device you ordered. Google's card processing system is catching up. If you have not been charged you you will be soon.

glowworm62 said:
Steal N7? People have no morals or ethics. It's disgusting.
The Truth of the matter is Google specifically stated in their terms and conditions of sale that there were no cancellations. As you are unlikely to have cancelled by phone (because they wouldn't let you) you have probably just used the support web page and sent it in. That isn't valid, your order is still good.
Correct way to move forward now is to phone them and request a return which they have said they will do if you have not opened the package.
The important thing to realise is that right now you have the device you ordered. Google's card processing system is catching up. If you have not been charged you you will be soon.
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I didn't think they're was a cancel online, I did mine by having them call me, and even the first rep didn't do that right.
Eventually I called back and a different rep said my request to cancel never happened even though the first rep days before said he did it.
Second rep did it again and sent it off to the appropriate people. 24-48 hours later, I received email confirmation including the order number, was cancelled.
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WhiteiceDMSTech said:
Second rep did it again and sent it off to the appropriate people. 24-48 hours later, I received email confirmation including the order number, was cancelled.
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In that case you have a good set of history to now request they come at their expense and pick it up and return your money (if charged).
It would be nicer if the delays were not 60 minutes ha as a result of the level of borkedness of this release! Good luck.

If it says it was cancelled, you will probably get a knock on the door from a UPS guy saying that you have a shipping request. You can either a) say no, keep the tablet, get charged or b) give it to him, wait 2 weeks, get a refund from google)

All you can do now is either return the package unopened to UPS (You have 5 days) or sell it on Ebay.

TahrirSquare said:
All you can do now is either return the package unopened to UPS (You have 5 days) or sell it on Ebay.
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Why sell it? You would get less than you paid for it. Return it

dirtyfingers said:
Why sell it? You would get less than you paid for it. Return it
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No way he can get less than what he paid for it, they're all selling for a profit now. plus he might get his money faster since google refund will take a couple of weeks. However if he doesn't sell it he's stuck with it.

dirtyfingers said:
Why sell it? You would get less than you paid for it. Return it
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you can sell it for any price you want

glowworm62 said:
Steal N7? People have no morals or ethics. It's disgusting.
The Truth of the matter is Google specifically stated in their terms and conditions of sale that there were no cancellations. As you are unlikely to have cancelled by phone (because they wouldn't let you) you have probably just used the support web page and sent it in. That isn't valid, your order is still good.
Correct way to move forward now is to phone them and request a return which they have said they will do if you have not opened the package.
The important thing to realise is that right now you have the device you ordered. Google's card processing system is catching up. If you have not been charged you you will be soon.
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Thanks for the reply
I contacted google last night and they said that they would send a email regarding shipping however, this has still not arrived. I then proceeded to put a complaint against google for ignoring my request for cancellation of the goods.
I bought this tablet in the UK so regarding googles policy it really does not matter if they stated "no Cancellations" as this wanders into the realms of "goods law" and statutory rights of the buyer.

I have told a friend at work that I have one for sale or return she stated that she wanted it at the cost £170. Shame, though it would have been nice to make enough extra on top for a cheeky pint!

Also forgot to mention I have already purchased the 16 gig variant through HMV at 190 quid. Also TESCO are selling these at 190 with the order number/discount voucher thing of TDX-KPHM if anyone else is interested.

If this is UK and you were charged, send it back under DSR within 7 days and they must refund you.
Daern
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How are people returning their Nexus 7 in UK

So, I initially order an 8gb Nexus from Google on the 27 June, cancelled it on the 29th and ordered the 16 gb one from currys.
As I didn't get a confirmation of cancellation, emailed again on the 10th. And my currys one yesterday.
But still phone got delivered 2 days ago. Phoned Google, who gave me an RMA number and said I will get my return shipment money back, just send it back by tnt.
But tnt want £35 to return it, and I'm not confident I'll get my refund on return from Google.
What have the others done? How are you sending it back in the UK?
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I would try to return the Curry's one in all honesty.
Check them both for the screen raise fault first though.

Google said they would refund my shipping. But as yet still waiting
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I had the same problem as they sent out the unit even though I cancelled. I just sold it on as it was the easiest way of getting my money back. Try gumtree as it won't cost anything to sell it. Or even tell friends as you may get a cheeky pint out of it as well

My currys one is perfect, but haven't opened up the other one.
To the guys who returned it, did you return it with TNT or by special delivery (royal mail)?
My mates who want a nexus want a 16 GB, so need to return this 8 GB one.
Sent from mobile.

Anyone from UK?

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Anyone from UK?
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hey bro, im trying to figure out how to return my nexus 7 too, got battery problems.
i got the RMA form and the TNT email thing, but do we really have to return through TNT, cant i just go to the post office and pay like a fiver to send it off? makes things much easier
please get back to me asap thanks

Hi mate are you selling your 8GB Nexus 7, I'm in the UK. Where are you located as I will buy it from you rather than sending it back.

habz1234 said:
hey bro, im trying to figure out how to return my nexus 7 too, got battery problems.
i got the RMA form and the TNT email thing, but do we really have to return through TNT, cant i just go to the post office and pay like a fiver to send it off? makes things much easier
please get back to me asap thanks
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What was the time line for you getting your RMA. Your email from TNT and your replacement device ?
I've had my RMA. Had my replacement device. But no return shipping instructions!!! So am sat with 2 nexus 7 and looking at a £400 bill. And getting no luck with phoning or emailing google!!

They're obliged by law to refund the postage costs incurred. If they don't do so you can take them to small-claims court and you will win.

You could try postage supermarket - they use tnt and get cheaper prices
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I don't believe you have to go through TNT in the UK as this is part of the RMA email I recieved from google:
3. You'll receive a return shipping label within 48 hours of your replacement device. Use this label with the shipping container used for returning your original device. Purchase return shipping from your preferred courier (Royal Mail for example) and specify the following return address:
Computer 2000
Harrier Parkway
Magna Parkway
Lutterworth
Leicester
Leicestershire
LE17 4XT
UK
4. Print your shipping label from your preferred courier and affix it to your return box. Take your package to any authorized shipping outlet near you.

charliemiddleton said:
What was the time line for you getting your RMA. Your email from TNT and your replacement device ?
I've had my RMA. Had my replacement device. But no return shipping instructions!!! So am sat with 2 nexus 7 and looking at a £400 bill. And getting no luck with phoning or emailing google!!
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i basically phoned them, got my RMA form, and within that email they just state to sent back the device to the address given, being the computer 2000 address...
i however didnt use TNT and used royal mail special delivery with insurance of up to £150, it costed me £7.50 to do so

i orderd mines on 18/07/12 from currys and it came 25/07/12.
mines is perfect not one dead pixel, no light bleed and nothing else they have reported on herd. i love this thing. is supa fast and smooth. verry happy with it.
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If you are exercising your rights under distance selling regulations (#), you may have to pay the cost for returning if the seller has stated this in their terms and conditions. If not, you pay nothing.
Here was link to t and c in my June pre order email.
https://play.google.com/about/device-terms.html
It does state return at your cost unfortunately. I believe Google should refund cost as a goodwill gesture. It is hinted here, where it offers a 15 day opened box prepaid return policy as an 'extra' to you legal rights. This is where you would usually see "this does not affect your statutory rights"
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2661524&rd=1
The seller must refund delivery and unit price within 30 days of your notification of exercising DSR. You must return the item within a reasonable time period.
http://oft.gov.uk/business-advice/treating-customers-fairly/dshome/dsrexplained
Note applying under faulty goods is slightly different
http://oft.gov.uk/business-advice/treating-customers-fairly/sogahome/sogaexplained
I think we are duplicating threads as I am repeating myself. Can we pin or lock?
# I have said unopened box previously, as is usually case for general goods with clear packaging but I think it is reasonable to open the nexus box to inspect the goods, as you would do this in a retail shop. There is no hard rule on this, it is what is judged, by the average population what is considered reasonable. Proportionality is usually taken into account. I consider it reasonable to open the box to inspect a 200 pound item. You will still have a statutory duty to take reasonable care to look after the item. The seller cannot insist on using original packaging but it may be considered reasonable to do so.
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xenon1024 said:
Here was link to t and c in my June pre order email.
https://play.google.com/about/device-terms.html
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Those T&Cs specifically say they apply to the US, but I can't find any UK-specific terms anywhere on their site, therefore the sale is bound by statutory defaults. BTW, the section about returning 'at your own cost' covers returns for refund, not warranty returns for defect repair/exchange, which is the section below it and doesn't mention anything about having to cover return postage.

Yeah I know - I described separate scenarios:
Statutory rights under DSR [under SOGA] (ie I have inspected the goods and changed my mind about the contract). You do not pay the cost of returning if you are sending item back unless the terms and conditions state so. It does say you pay in the "Devices on Google Play Terms of Sale (United States)", but the "Refunds, returns & replacements" Dedicated page [uk view] doesn't mention anything, so I reckon we don't have to pay.
Statutory rights under SOGA (defective goods etc). You do not pay the cost of returning item, whatever.
In this instance for us Nexus 7 buyers, you should not only return defective goods as a 'warranty' scenario, but pull the SOGA card, which is much more beneficial for consumers. Also our contract is with Google (or whatever retailer you shopped at) not with ASUS, so we shouldn't even have to contact ASUS.
Yeah, SOGA trumps DSR because by virtue of receiving goods, or inspecting goods and found a defect, then it does not conform to the contract.
Right to warranty is not a statutory right. Like the 15 day return policy, it is an 'extra' to your rights and Google should in their right mind keep a good public image by not making us suffer!
Yeah, I couldn't find a UK specific one, it makes sense for an international seller to have a generic one, there is a paragraph on governance:
"The courts in some countries will not apply California law to some types of terms and disputes. If you reside in one of those countries, then where California law is excluded from applying, your country’s laws will apply to these terms and any disputes related to them terms..."

Got my pre-paid TNT return label today and collection is booked for Monday, so everything's sorted out. Looks like they're sending the defective ones to a warehouse in Emmen in the Netherlands.

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Got my pre-paid TNT return label today and collection is booked for Monday, so everything's sorted out. Looks like they're sending the defective ones to a warehouse in Emmen in the Netherlands.
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I had real trouble getting the TNT lot on the phone to arrange a pick up. They seemed very confused that the account number was for a company in Birmingham yet I was sending it to the Netherlands.
Phoned back, got a different operator, no problem!

Don't get this thread. Return for what reason?

SquareTrade Discount!

Normally, the SquareTrade warranty is $39.99 and $49.99 for the 8GB and 16GB models, respectively (all values in USD). If you buy the warranty through their Nexus 7 landing page (http://www.squaretrade.com/nexus7) you'll get $10 off, so $29.99 and $39.99. Offer expires 17 August 2012. The warranty is good for 2 years and includes accidental coverage from handling (spills, drops, etc.). They can also adjust the warranty to start when you actually received your Nexus 7, not when you purchased it.
Searched their site for a minute to get some details. There is no deductible for tablets. Shipping is free both ways. Once the parts and labor for any repairs reaches the original purchase price of the device, the contract is considered fulfilled. If it is damaged beyond repair, they will cut a check or make a paypal deposit in the amount of your original purchase price and consider the contract fulfilled. They guarantee 5-day turnaround. 5 days from when you ship the device to them, they will have it repaired and shipped back or pay you for the device. There may be other terms that I did not find on the site, or that I simply forgot but it sounds pretty good to me. I'll be purchasing a plan since I will soon have 3 kids under 3 years old. Who knows what's going to happen to my precious Nexus.
I just wanted to share this discount with you all since I haven't seen it posted yet. For those lucky enough to be able to find a one-time-use 30% off discount, thumbs up for you! I couldn't find any that weren't used so this is my best bet.

Also noted that under the pull-down for Maufacturer there is no Google, so I'm assuming te choice will be Asus.

r4d14n7 said:
Normally, the SquareTrade warranty is $39.99 and $49.99 for the 8GB and 16GB models, respectively (all values in USD). If you buy the warranty through their Nexus 7 landing page (http://www.squaretrade.com/nexus7) you'll get $10 off, so $29.99 and $39.99. Offer expires 17 August 2012. The warranty is good for 2 years and includes accidental coverage from handling (spills, drops, etc.). They can also adjust the warranty to start when you actually received your Nexus 7, not when you purchased it.
Searched their site for a minute to get some details. There is no deductible for tablets. Shipping is free both ways. Once the parts and labor for any repairs reaches the original purchase price of the device, the contract is considered fulfilled. If it is damaged beyond repair, they will cut a check or make a paypal deposit in the amount of your original purchase price and consider the contract fulfilled. They guarantee 5-day turnaround. 5 days from when you ship the device to them, they will have it repaired and shipped back or pay you for the device. There may be other terms that I did not find on the site, or that I simply forgot but it sounds pretty good to me. I'll be purchasing a plan since I will soon have 3 kids under 3 years old. Who knows what's going to happen to my precious Nexus.
I just wanted to share this discount with you all since I haven't seen it posted yet. For those lucky enough to be able to find a one-time-use 30% off discount, thumbs up for you! I couldn't find any that weren't used so this is my best bet.
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I don't usually purchase warranties, but this looks pretty promising. I'll have to try this out when I buy my nexus 7 in august. Thanks

Worth Ave Group covers theft as well and costs $47.50 with 15% off coupon (15OFF).
http://www.worthavegroup.com/products/tablet-insurance/

You can usually find 20% off (which is what this offer is essentially) but they do 30% as well, and I know from working with them that they do pay. My daughter borked an old Nikon compact camera and we shipped it to them and they cut me a check for cost of the item. No fuss or muss.

jmcging said:
You can usually find 20% off (which is what this offer is essentially) but they do 30% as well, and I know from working with them that they do pay. My daughter borked an old Nikon compact camera and we shipped it to them and they cut me a check for cost of the item. No fuss or muss.
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Squaretrade of Worth Ave?

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Also noted that under the pull-down for Maufacturer there is no Google, so I'm assuming te choice will be Asus.
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Yes. Asus is the manufacturer. I love squaretrade. I buy all my warranties from them and use the 30 percent off code they send me. I got my warranty on my own Nexus 7 for the $34.99
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TY SO MUCH! i just bought it , i was deciding if i wanted to earlier but when i saw discount i grabbed it right away!

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Worth Ave Group covers theft as well and costs $47.50 with 15% off coupon (15OFF).
http://www.worthavegroup.com/products/tablet-insurance/
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Ah, nice! How are claims through them? Quick and hassle-free? That's the most attractive part of SquareTrade, to me. I'll check them out before I buy, though I've never needed theft/loss protection in the past. Thanks for the tip!

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TY SO MUCH! i just bought it , i was deciding if i wanted to earlier but when i saw discount i grabbed it right away!
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No problem! Took me a minute to find this discount as I don't think it's advertised anywhere on their site. I even looked up the normal costs and still saw no mention of it. $40 is worth it, I think.

r4d14n7 said:
Ah, nice! How are claims through them? Quick and hassle-free? That's the most attractive part of SquareTrade, to me. I'll check them out before I buy, though I've never needed theft/loss protection in the past. Thanks for the tip!
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I haven't filed a claim with them but their reviews seem to be pretty good. You do have to submit a police report for instances of theft or vandalism and if your device is stolen from your car, there has to be signs of forced entry. Also, it doesn't cover loss, just theft.

Most premium credit cards like Discover or Amex have a 90 day accidental damage, or theft coverage policy automatically applied to purchases on the card. They also double the 1 year warranty to 2 years. I have used it before when my puppy chewed up a new pair of expensive exotic leather boots and the process was rather painless.
Personally, I'll probably take the risk on skipping a paid warranty. These devices have a pretty short lifespan for me before I rotate it out for the next newest thing.

Just purchased the warantee for my N7/16GB.

I'd really like to take advantage of this but if I bought my nexus 7 off of craigslist then am I straight out of luck? Not sure what the purchase date is and where it was purchased from (but it is an 8GB so it has to be from the Google Play Store right?) I also don't have the receipt.

The price went back up, but you said it's good till august 17th? I would love to get this, but only at the sale price...
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The price went back up, but you said it's good till august 17th? I would love to get this, but only at the sale price...
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Me too. August 17? apparently not

It did show August 17, I tried to go thru my cached pages for yesterday but couldn't find it yet. I'll continue and if I find it, i'll post it and maybe you can call them up directly.

I never buy any extended waranty. In Canada there is a mandatory 1 year manufacturer waranty.If an electronic device does not die in the first year, it will most likely live it's designed life (there a a statistical probability for this). Most electronic devices "die" because they become obsolete not because they stop working. To pay $40 for a $200 device, is just trowing money out of the window.My 2 cents.

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I never buy any extended waranty. In Canada there is a mandatory 1 year manufacturer waranty.If an electronic device does not die in the first year, it will most likely live it's designed life (there a a statistical probability for this). Most electronic devices "die" because they become obsolete not because they stop working. To pay $40 for a $200 device, is just trowing money out of the window.My 2 cents.
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While I agree with you.... people don't buy this for the increased warranty, they generally buy it for accidental damage insurance.

adit9989 said:
I never buy any extended waranty. In Canada there is a mandatory 1 year manufacturer waranty.If an electronic device does not die in the first year, it will most likely live it's designed life (there a a statistical probability for this). Most electronic devices "die" because they become obsolete not because they stop working. To pay $40 for a $200 device, is just trowing money out of the window.My 2 cents.
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I have young children. I am careful, but sometimes I make mistakes. If something happens a year and a half from now, I would get the full purchase price back, even though the tablet would have depreciated in value.
Back when I had no kids, yes, I would consider it a waste. Now? Not so much. Thanks for your help though.

[Story]Serious complaint and remorse for buying a Nexus 5 at Carphone Warehouse UK

I'm not 100% sure if this is the correct thread, however given the nature that it is relevant to the general discussion of the Nexus 5 I'm going to post it in here anyway.
Do not shop at Carphone Warehouse UK​
So I bought my Nexus 5 on release day from the Carphone Warehouse. I paid £295. When I got it home to my annoyance it wouldn't charge, no matter what I did it would not charge. I'm pretty experienced with phones and could tell it was a hardware error. I use my phone primarily for business, so being without a phone is completely a no-go for me. I took my Nexus 5 back to Carphone Warehouse on the assumption that they would just do a straight swap, however no they didn't have any stock in.. which is where my trouble started.
They offered me an alternative phone, they recommended the LG G2 as it only had a price difference of £150 and for some stupid reason, I went for it. The device I received was in an OPEN BOX (my mistake, I admit) that has had promotional stickers ripped off, however the phone inside was sealed, and so I assumed there was no issue. Got the phone home, start using it and discover that the phone is getting hot and crashing, this is as soon as I've got it out of the box.. so it's not like I've done anything to it or used it too much.
Anyway took it back to Carphone Warehouse the following day. By this point I was quite annoyed because the store that I purchased it from is a 60.8 Mile round trip. Due to my working hours I can't go to my local one, which closes at 5PM. The store I got the G2 from closes at 8PM, making it the only store I can get to that is open. I took the phone in and spoke to a lady on the Checkout about the issue and she said that an exchange was no problem and that more importantly, they had the Nexus 5 in stock. We initiated the exchange when she checked the IMEI. At this point she said she needed to speak to her manager. After around 5 minutes of waiting and her taking my phone in the back with her, she comes back and says to me 'I'm sorry Sir, we cannot exchange this phone as YOU have taken this phone and swapped it for an identical one with a different IMEI number. Our system shows you should have a different phone'
Quite astounded at what she had told me, I explained to her that I had only just purchased the phone the previous morning. She wouldn't have any of it and sent me away with an 0845 number to call to make a complaint. On the way home I called into another Carphone Warehouse store. I spoke to a lady who called Customer Services on behalf of me to find out how this issue could have occurred. To put it plain and simple, the IMEI on the box of the phone was the same as the one on the system, but the phone I had had an alien IMEI. After she spoke to Customer Services the lady told me that unfortunately they couldn't do anything from their store because, get this, the phone I had was being sent off for a repair. I would have to take it back to the original store, the same store that just fobbed me off, in order to get it exchanged. And this was head office that told me this!
The following day I spoke to customer services myself. I rung up and lodged a complaint because I believe the fact that I was accused of committing fraud but am also expected to drive 60 Miles to resolve a problem is disgusting. I spoke to a lady called Amy who "promised" me she would get to the bottom of this for me and resolve it. She told me that she could see from notes put on the account (presumably from the previous days call to cs) that the phone was a repair handset. She then spoke to the repairs team who confirmed they were waiting for the handset to arrive. She told me that she wouldn't be able to resolve the issue until she had spoken to the store I originally bought the handset from. She then "promised" to call me back as soon as she had spoken to them, or by 5PM the same day.
For records, this was on the 6th November.
5PM came, and no call. Because she called me on an 0800 number and wouldn't give me a number to contact her on, I was unable to call her myself. However the following morning (7th November) she called me and told me that she had still been unable to get in contact with the store in question and that she would definitely have this fixed for me by the evening and that she would call me back by 5PM. Well 5PM came and went, and there was no call. By this point I was extremely annoyed. The following morning there was no call either, so I called CPW on my mobile (which has charged me) and requested to speak to Amy. By this point it was on the third day of being without a working handset and nobody had really acknowledged there was an issue, or done anything to solve it. I actually managed to get put through to Amy who told me that she had still not been able to get through to the store, but that her manager was in in 20 minutes and she would call me back with a resolution to the issue. I asked her if she would 100% call me back, and she promised she would. 24 hours passed and no call.
So by this point I've been without a handset for 4 days, been sold a second hand one, promised that I will have a call from customer services to resolve it but haven't, and been accused of fraud. Getting quite angry at this point.
I allowed a few days to go by to see if Amy would get in contact with me, however by Monday 11th November she still hadn't. We took the phone to the Trafford Centre store which is still a good 25 miles away. We spoke to a very helpful gentleman in the Carphone Warehouse store who went to a lot of trouble for me. He spoke to head office who reiterated the fact that the phone was a repair handset and advised the gentleman to call the store I bought the phone from. He called the store and spoke to the manager. He confirmed that the IMEI on the box of the phone I had was in store, and that there had been a bit of a mess up and he was unsure of how it had happened. I was then told that unfortunately due to the circumstances of the issue I would have to drive to the other store, a further 10 miles, to initiate the exchange OR refund.
So finally just under a week of being without a phone and driving from my house to Manchester every other day the issue was resolved and I would be able to go back to a Nexus 5 or get a refund. Hell, wasn't I wrong.
On arrival at the store we spoke to the manager who told us we had two options, either swap the LG G2 for another LG G2, or get a cheaper handset. He couldn't offer us a refund because he would have to speak to customer services who were closed, and he wasn't prepared to knock the difference off a HTC One (£50) due to all the problems we had had. Furthermore the sim-free price of a Nexus 5 at Carphone is now £495, however they are not selling them sim-free at the moment! I was then told that I could have a refund, but I would have to come back the following day!! All this after driving probably in excess of 200 miles.
I felt backed into a corner and didn't really have a choice but to accept the G2. As I said earlier I need a handset for work and it's not an option for me to be without one.
I then spoke to the complaints department of Carphone Warehouse once again yesterday. I explained everything that I have just said in this post, and their reply:
"We do not offer refunds on any sim-free products, and the manager was wrong to tell you that we do. Because you accepted the G2 there is nothing we can do for you. You chose to drive there on your free will. Would you like me to raise your complaint against the store?"
:good: Not happy.
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So now I really do not know what to do. I have been left with a phone that I do not want and am considerably out of pocket due to fuel costs of driving to get the issue resolved. Help?

Never get upset with them, for starters. It's difficult, I know from extensive experience, but their hands are tied to within their policies and they won't want to help if you tell them off like they probably deserve.
This is how I've played these games and won countless times.
Politely calmly ask:
"So, there is nothing you can do?"
"No, I'm sorry sir, there isn't"
"What is your employee ID#, who is your superior, and how do I contact them? I'd like to pass on a good work for your efforts"
Rinse, repeat. Insist to pass to a superior. They'll tell you nobody can help. Tell them you feel like you deserve to hear it from their boss.
I once had a vp with Sprint (verified that they really were via background checks: on the phone with me to resolve an issue by asking "Well, if you can't help me, someone can approve this. Who can?"
Just keep climbing the ladder.
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That story has put me off buying from CPW for life. Thanks for sharing how they see fit to treat a customer who has spent hundreds of pounds in their store.
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setspeed said:
That story has put me off buying from CPW for life. Thanks for sharing how they see fit to treat a customer who has spent hundreds of pounds in their store.
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I don't blame you, going to try my luck again later with their complaints department. I will update the thread. I think a lot of it depends on who you speak to as well, it's not necessarily speaking to a manager that matters, it's speaking to someone that can relate to your experience.

Good luck, I hope you end up with a decent resolution, but I fear that even if you were to get the phone you want, all the extra money you gave them and spent on petrol is lost. I really wanted an N5 on release day and I even went to my local CPW to take a look at them - thank God they weren't selling the 32GB because I would've bought it there and then. It might've taken a few days longer from Google, but at least I know they won't jerk me around if I have to return it (I returned my N4 last year because I didn't like it enough to keep it over my S3, no issues with refund at all).
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I mentioned managers because sometimes the person you're speaking to doesn't have the power to make that decision on your behalf, and must go by policy. Someone in the chain, however, can choose to bypass policy. Talk to them if you don't get what you want (as long as it's realistic).
-No longer accidental, just Jeremy. F.cfb
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jRi0T68 said:
I mentioned managers because sometimes the person you're speaking to doesn't have the power to make that decision on your behalf, and must go by policy. Someone in the chain, however, can choose to bypass policy. Talk to them if you don't get what you want (as long as it's realistic).
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Oh no I completely agree with you there! Sorry I meant you multi-quote. I mean the gateway though, I believe a realistic demand is to have the Nexus 5 for £295 and a refund of £150 which I paid the difference on for my LG G2. This is fair, right?

I'd get yourself to citizens advice just to get something in writing and report them to trading standards - they're spinning you a line. No refunds on Sim Free?? Any product sold by a retailer in the UK is subject to the Sale of Goods act. You can return an item for a full refund if it's not as described, of satisfactory quality or fit for purpose. The rules don't just stop there but they're the basics
If you fancy a read and have some time: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54
Edit - forgot to add, you're entitled to a full "cash" refund too, you don't have to accept store credit..

Cactus42 said:
I'd get yourself to citizens advice just to get something in writing and report them to trading standards - they're spinning you a line. No refunds on Sim Free?? Any product sold by a retailer in the UK is subject to the Sale of Goods act. You can return an item for a full refund if it's not as described, of satisfactory quality or fit for purpose. The rules don't just stop there but they're the basics
If you fancy a read and have some time: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54
Edit - forgot to add, you're entitled to a full "cash" refund too, you don't have to accept store credit..
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Good advice here. I would also get the credit card company involved.
You did pay by credit card didn't you? If not, silly billy.
This is a good way of dragging someone else into the fray on your side and applying pressure on recalcitrant suppliers.

I got my N5 from CPW and i'm on my 3rd handset (which is no fault of CPW).
Each time i've taken it back they've been helpful and each time they've given me a new handset they've pulled the outer sleeve off to show it's a new and factory sealed box...
I suppose the service you get depends on which store you go to :/
Also i have to ask...
You got a sim free phone meaning you would have already had another working phone/sim?
Why didnt you just wait for the nexus 5 to get back into stock again? :/
Also looking at your sig...
Why didnt you stick with the Z1?

I'm not defending CPW as the issue you're having is tragic.
But at the same time you made numerous mistakes yourself and undoubtedly made things harder..for yourself.
The first being not waiting for the N5 to get back in stock again from that specific retailer or asking them to find a store where it was in stock and doing an exchange there.
The second, getting a phone you did NOT want and paying an EXTRA £150 for it. You do acknowledge this was an open box and you were still in a position to run the risk that it did not behave as intended. Which unfortunately it did.
Glad you got that IMEI stuff fixed, that was BS on their part. Handy Gentleman at trafford to the rescue! Oh yeah, Thirdly, you were wasting your time with Amy, She was clearly incompetent at her job, producing no results every time you waited for her and continued to wait for her again.
Driving up and down in excess of xx miles is another issue when you could have made the alternative and smarter decision of calling the individual store up. Each CPW store has a different phone number which you can find on the website. Only till you're guaranteed that you can have an exchange or whatever you had desired, you could have popped in. Had that particular store failed to assist you, you wouldn't have to drive back achieving nothing but wasted petrol.
Oh yeah, when you finally spoke to the manager, you conceded and accepted another LG G2, may I reiterate, as you said. A phone you did NOT want. So customer Service was closed but you still had the opportunity for a full refund. Again, why not wait till it was open. [I get it, driving issues but that shouldn't stop you if it causes more 'driving issues' later]
The issue is, you don't wait for things and you take the easiest most convenient option at the time but at the end of the day it's the one you don't like, so you wish-wash out of it and things become more complicated.
The IMEI was unfortunate and yes, incredibly annoying. But that got resolved. The faulty handset is by no means the direct fault of CPW. And you did have a choice in regards to accepting the G2, I really don't see how you're playing the victim card in this aspect with that. In terms of work, you could have used a temp phone in the mean time, nothing fancy, an old nokia could have done the job if you need to make calls. You already had a sim if I'm correct. I figure the refund for the Nexus 5 was not an option the moment you opted for the G2 as that phone supersedes the N5 in terms of pricing. I figure what you want now is a refund for the LG G2 and the Nexus 5 at the £295 pricepoint from CPW that it once had? I don't think that's a realistic expectation anymore mate. At best just accept the refund for the LG G2. The N5 window is gone.
An alternative If you still want the Nexus 5 would be selling your LG G2, boxed and unopen, I hope and buying a N5 at the play store.
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I believe a realistic demand is to have the Nexus 5 for £295 and a refund of £150 which I paid the difference on for my LG G2. This is fair, right?
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No, it isn't a realistic demand because once you bought the LG G2, that became a stand alone product independent from any attachment with the N5. Quite simply you have you're head attached to the idea that the Nexus 5 is your main phone from CPW and that the LG G2 is a temp / secondary / repair or whatever. Once you chose the G2, you made your bed, that's where all the concern now lies.
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I got my N5 from CPW and i'm on my 3rd handset (which is no fault of CPW).
Each time i've taken it back they've been helpful and each time they've given me a new handset they've pulled the outer sleeve off to show it's a new and factory sealed box...
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Also, this is a clear example that the CPW system does not fail with returns. Ahhhhhhhhh Now I'm contradicting the first sentence in this post. But the problem does not lie with them completely as you make it out.