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Instructions/download can be found here:
http://rootzwiki.com/forumdisplay.php?298-Optimus-Black-Developer-Forum
Attention: if you want to flash back a KDZ, make sure to wipe data in the recovery first.
knzo said:
Good news everyone, I was about to get my hands dirty and try to port CM but happens that a fellow portuguese who is in CM team received a Black from LG and is already porting it!
He's very knowledgeable and it should be fast. Hopefully the port can be merged without breaking other devices (if this happens it'll be official and we'll have nightlies). Otherwise, well, I hope he releases it anyway or at least sends me the device folder so I can.
Here's a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGoVy4tQki0
We can also see here that he has a .35 kernel which probably the only way to have gotten it is with gingerbread. I guess what I'm trying to say here is, LG probably also gave him 2.3 sources, so the update should also be near.
Since I prefer AOSP to CM, when it's out I'll also use his device folder and port to a clean AOSP-ish ROM.
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this. is. fantastic. finally gingerbread is coming.
thank you and your friend.
awesome news
This is awesome news, Knzo thanks for getting development started on this phone, will you work with the caynogen team to get some of your tweaks included?
About time... glad it's happening. Knzo is ecstatic for sure. Nova 2.3 atlast. haha. Will wait for the nightly builds.
I wonder if LG asked for help regarding Gingerbread. So they could finally have official. LOL
Yeeeeeeees. I'm looking forward to this
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This is awesome new, Knzo thanks for getting development started on this phone, will you work with the caynogen team to get some of your tweaks included?
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No, this is a one-man-job and he's much more skilled than I am. Remember I'm not even a computer engineer; my field is the brain, not computers, I do this as a hobby.
Probably if CM comes out, Nova will cease to exist. I'll only work on a good kernel and perhaps a clean AOSP-ish ROM based on CM device source and CAF.
I already sent him PM asking if he was kind enough to share it, we'll see what he replies.
wowwwwwwww
so exciting news!!!!!!!!
haha XD
Can I link this post?
Fantastic news!
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No, this is a one-man-job and he's much more skilled than I am. Remember I'm not even a computer engineer; my field is the brain, not computers, I do this as a hobby.
Probably if CM comes out, Nova will cease to exist.
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I'll take this chance then to once again thank you from the nerdy bottom of my heart that you got this dev stone rolling and not only that but did a damn amazing job.
Can't imagine what you are able to do to brains!
Thanks dude!
yes, good news
knzo said:
No, this is a one-man-job and he's much more skilled than I am. Remember I'm not even a computer engineer; my field is the brain, not computers, I do this as a hobby.
Probably if CM comes out, Nova will cease to exist. I'll only work on a good kernel and perhaps a clean AOSP-ish ROM based on CM device source and CAF.
I already sent him PM asking if he was kind enough to share it, we'll see what he replies.
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Woah thanks for the update! (came coz I saw the dev2usr thingy)
But, IMO I'll go for a Clean Rom over CM7 anytime LOL (Somehow I feel CM7's a little overated... somehow...)
Best news ever!
Good news!
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Oh my! Is this a dream or what?
Yeah thats genial
I need a second LGOB 1 Test Hardware 1 Produktiv Hardware
Good News!!...Thanks to Knzo
dxdiag32 said:
wowwwwwwww
so exciting news!!!!!!!!
haha XD
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Tks for ur contribution to all the users of Optimus Black.
Love it.
Another reason not to leave the OB
My own Project was already in the works for another TEAM:
http://www.aedesign.cn/bbs/forumdisplay.php?fid=6
DOWNLOAD of THEIR work:
http://u.115.com/file/bh5z76gp#AED_Legend_5.0.0.RC3_exp.zip
good to see
Good to see someone else to make something new for the legend comunity. Keep going!
By the way, what is your ROM base? The video is too blury...
ogo2 said:
Good to see someone else to make something new for the legend comunity. Keep going!
By the way, what is your ROM base? The video is too blury...
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I would say this rom:
http://www.aedesign.cn/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=316&extra=page=1
Looks cool, looking forward to this rom. Gj so far
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I am glad as well to see someone else step up to the plate. I think this will give the CyanogenMod developers some more motivation to make a stable release.
LiViD said:
I am glad as well to see someone else step up to the place. I think this will give the CyanogenMod developers some more motivation to make a stable release.
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Yeah, I know we are idiots. All of our releases have been unstable, full of bugs and missing nearly every feature one could wish for. Please excuse us, but we really can't do any better. The fact that all ROMs that are not based off RUUs are CyanogenMod rip-offs should clearly tell you that we just can't get anything right at all.
Very MIUI like.. Looks pretty much like my new Desire... Great job seeing similar running on the Legend..
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great job!
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I am glad as well to see someone else step up to the plate. I think this will give the CyanogenMod developers some more motivation to make a stable release.
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i suggust u say sorry for your arrogance to the CyanogenMod tea
btw awsome work!
dilip007 said:
i suggust u say sorry for your arrogance to the CyanogenMod tea
btw awsome work!
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You guys don't pay attention to the experimental thread do you? Seriously, over 160 attempts at a nightly build and still nothing that performs up to par with ogo2's 2.3.3 Sense UI ROM. Sure his is lacking WiFi AP functionality, but I can live with that.
I love how you call everyone elses' ROM a rip-off of a CM ROM. Get a life guys, no one would attempt to use your builds unless said person was extremely lazy.
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You guys don't pay attention to the experimental thread do you? Seriously, over 160 attempts at a nightly build and still nothing that performs up to par with ogo2's 2.3.3 Sense UI ROM. Sure his is lacking WiFi AP functionality, but I can live with that.
I love how you call everyone elses' ROM a rip-off of a CM ROM. Get a life guys, no one would attempt to use your builds unless said person was extremely lazy.
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Damn.. Where have you lived your life? 2 versions of stable ROMS is what we have.. original from HTC is 1 - CM is 2.. All roms worth mention is variations of one of those.. (for Legend that is)
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I love how you call everyone elses' ROM a rip-off of a CM ROM.
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I know I'm wasting my time here and I really don't care anyway.
Still I think I have to clarify that I'm not talking about people using some "builds". I'm talking about the source code.
If you want to build a ROM for the Legend (and nearly every other device out there) you've got two choices: Push some files from official releases (RUUs) around and zip them, or compile from source.
As a matter of fact there's no project out there that releases working source code (for anything but Google's official devices) except for CyanogenMod.
Video encoding or decoding? msm* support? Backported code for ancient libcamera, libril and framework support for said ancient libraries? GPS backport or implementation? Kernel backports for Gingerbread? Yeah, good luck finding that somewhere else (no, I don't mean the CAF repositories where we are copying from and giving credit of course).
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Get a life guys, no one would attempt to use your builds unless said person was extremely lazy.
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"Get a life"? Come on, don't be ridiculous.
MD5-sums can be quite revealing by the way. Or boot messages (like "Welcome to CyanogeMod" in MIUI). Some people were even charging for shady rip-offs – that's why the CM team ultimately decided to close down development and switch to "release when it's done".
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Seriously, over 160 attempts at a nightly build...
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Sorry, but you didn't understand the concept of a nightly build? There are no "attempts at a nightly build" and they are not even meant for users. Nightly builds are there to see if current code in the repositories still compiles. Nothing else.
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All roms worth mention is variations of one of those.. (for Legend that is)
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Unfortunately not only for the Legend but for most other devices too.
Android was said to be open but in fact it's just proprietary crap again. No developer wants to spend months doing the work of forty CM devs, so they either join CM – or sometimes steal their work declaring it as their own – or use (or combine) binaries from official releases.
If you didn't care, you would be in other developers threads attacking their attempts at making something that just may work better than what you're pushing out.
Face the facts; People want more choices other than CM. I am willing to admit that CM 6.1 was a damn good ROM when it came out, but I can't for life of me figure out why you guys can't live up to the same expectations with CM7.
I have been testing the NewSense 1.0 RC's (HTC Salsa ROM) for some time, and I as I said; Without the lack of AP support, it works well and does not have the crash prone problems that I have seen with 7.0.3, and 7.1 RC1.
ali ba said:
Unfortunately not only for the Legend but for most other devices too.
Android was said to be open but in fact it's just proprietary crap again. No developer wants to spend months doing the work of forty CM devs, so they either join CM – or sometimes steal their work declaring it as their own – or use (or combine) binaries from official releases.
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Oh Sorry.. Didn't know much of other devices.. Recently bought the Desire and currently using MIUI. Must admit that I believed the MIUI to be a completely rewrite of the Android framework..
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LiViD said:
I have been testing the NewSense 1.0 RC's (HTC Salsa ROM) for some time, and I as I said; Without the lack of AP support, it works well and does not have the crash prone problems that I have seen with 7.0.3, and 7.1 RC1.
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You can thanks for that to HTC, because i haven't written a single line of code in NewSense. Only some crappy hacks.
Really, our community is too small and we have a lack of devs, but that's not all. HTC provide to us just ****ty sources. It just sucks!
Btw: this rom here is based on cm7...
Edit: I commented on the wrong ROM. My bad.
I still think Blayo's rom's are the best for Legend!
Been using them for quite a while and I never have had any complain!
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Must admit that I believed the MIUI to be a completely rewrite of the Android framework..
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Their earlier releases certainly used CM sources with modified framework and apps. I don't know what they are doing now – but as they don't release their sources I can accuse them of using modified CM source code as much as I want without ever being able to prove it so I refrain from doing that.
If you are interested, the UltimateDroid soap opera is a good read by the way.
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You can thanks for that to HTC, because i haven't written a single line of code in NewSense. Only some crappy hacks.
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That doesn't make your work worth less than anyone else's and certainly not "crappy".
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HTC provide to us just ****ty sources.
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I'd be happy if they provided the real sources for the binaries they are releasing but as a matter of fact HTC continuously violates the GPL and we can't do anything about that.
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If you didn't care, you would be in other developers threads attacking their attempts at making something that just may work better than what you're pushing out.
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Where exactly did I attack emiliano7's work? I'm actually very glad that someone is developing for the Legend and I never stated anything else.
You obviously on the other hand couldn't resist showing your arrogant attitude by addressing the CM team in this thread making false accusations. You can't take a discussion off-topic and then blame others for taking the same train.
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...the crash prone problems that I have seen with 7.0.3, and 7.1 RC1.
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Instead of making vague accusations you could have filed bug reports a long time ago. CM is a community project and nothing without its community.
It sometimes still makes me sad that for some people whining doesn't seem to be a problem but as soon as it comes to writing a good bug report they come up with various excuses.
So I've just flashed OmniROM on my LG Optimus 4X HD (p880). Probably this is the first unofficial build, built from Gerrit repos, I'm really proud of myself.
I'm pretty impressed that there were only a few changes needed and almost everything works, only BT doesn't work (easy to fix). I really like the quick settings flipping and how it shows Wi-Fi IP address when flipped. :good: I attach some screenshots.
Adam77Root said:
So I've just flashed OmniROM on my LG Optimus 4X HD (p880). Probably this is the first unofficial build, built from Gerrit repos, I'm really proud of myself.
I'm pretty impressed that there were only a few changes needed and almost everything works, only BT doesn't work (easy to fix). I really like the quick settings flipping and how it shows Wi-Fi IP address when flipped. :good: I attach some screenshots.
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Is this build available for download? Really eager to try it out
And will you be maintaining for the P880 on a Nightly/Weekly/whenever flexibly based? Sorry for asking that, just curious
penguin449 said:
Is this build available for download? Really eager to try it out
And will you be maintaining for the P880 on a Nightly/Weekly/whenever flexibly based? Sorry for asking that, just curious
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Not yet. It's not even built from published sources, though there isn't much change in published ones yet.
Yes, probably I will.
Nice to see
In terms of going forward in terms of builds, we will be addressing these issues when we can. For now though, Omni isn't "officially" released in any kind of binary packages.
When the time comes, we will invoke the release processes, which will give nightly builds, with a weekly "tagged build". On Omni, nightly builds are expected to be stable, and encourage bug reports on them. A "weekly" is just a nightly that is tagged as "working fine", for those who don't want to update every day.
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For now though, Omni isn't "officially" released in any kind of binary packages.
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Not anymore: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481929
When OmniROM is going to be released on Nexus 4?
I hope they will have their own theme going on soon...was hoping it wouldn't look like cm/aokp out of the box lol
mgbotoe said:
I hope they will have their own theme going on soon...was hoping it wouldn't look like cm/aokp out of the box lol
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I hope it looks like AOSP out of the box, who cares about CM/AOKP?
Testraindrop said:
I hope it looks like AOSP out of the box, who cares about CM/AOKP?
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Considering cm/aokp look just like aosp...I care it dont look like that o.o
Can somebody who's already built and run the ROM do a hands-on impressions video of it?
mgbotoe said:
I hope they will have their own theme going on soon...was hoping it wouldn't look like cm/aokp out of the box lol
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The current look is the "AOSP" look. I imagine that longer term, there will be reason to look into modular theming systems. A lot of people want a "pure android" look, and generally the best way to avoid breaking things is to make any themes optional extras.
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The current look is the "AOSP" look. I imagine that longer term, there will be reason to look into modular theming systems. A lot of people want a "pure android" look, and generally the best way to avoid breaking things is to make any themes optional extras.
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Thank you, you kind sir for the response
Sounds really nice guys!!! Happy to see entropy and xplod working on android roms again after the cm thingy! Also nice to see that maxwen is working on this!
Made a build for the Nexus 10. I installed it breefly and from what i could see is that it is indeed mostly AOSP. Nice touch is the rotating tiles. If you rotate the wifi tile, you will see the ip adres.
Anyway i am still too much used to some CM additions (like the ability to close all apps at once).
It is a good start and will keep an eye on the development.
scanno said:
Made a build for the Nexus 10. I installed it breefly and from what i could see is that it is indeed mostly AOSP. Nice touch is the rotating tiles. If you rotate the wifi tile, you will see the ip adres.
Anyway i am still too much used to some CM additions (like the ability to close all apps at once).
It is a good start and will keep an eye on the development.
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More features on the way
It's mostly AOSP right now, we are currently in the process of adding a lot of the "useful" parts we know and love. If you want to get involved, feel free to do so on Gerrit.
pulser_g2 said:
More features on the way
It's mostly AOSP right now, we are currently in the process of adding a lot of the "useful" parts we know and love. If you want to get involved, feel free to do so on Gerrit.
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So another build for i9500
Everything is working except Bluetooth
Love it ^^
I've installed tilal6991's build on my Xperia T and it works like a charm. No superuser for some reason but otherwise it's perfect! Can't wait for this project to mature
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Made a build for HTC Explorer,and it's running great,albeit with a few bugs(most are easy to fix)
The major thing i noticed was that all 4.3 roms for this device have a "lockscreen lag bug",but this doesn't!
sakindia123 said:
Made a build for HTC Explorer,and it's running great,albeit with a few bugs(most are easy to fix)
The major thing i noticed was that all 4.3 roms for this device have a "lockscreen lag bug",but this doesn't!
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Woah dude, you got this running on an Explorer? That thing is like...ancient. I didn't even think it would be capable of Android 4.1+ Props!
Since Android 4.4 has low system requirements, do you think anyone will make a rom for our device?
as for NEON, Tonyp managed to make 4.3 work so I'm guessing it is possible with 4.4?
KittKatt would be awesome!
I sure hope someone will... I think it might run a lot better than jellybean versions considering the memory requirements... I just hope that not too much has changed 'under the hood' to make it work with current drivers. LG will never release new drivers.
To anyone who tries: Good luck and well done!!
Tonyp's 2 cents about kitkat
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=1086
this is a main topic on o2x forum... use a search a bit before opening a new thread
Well, we hope so...if pengus77 and tonyp doesn't hit a roadblock with android 4.4 sources. Well be satisfied with we have right now. Android 4.3 for our phones is doing great.
Wrong thread.
Really hope for a 4.4 ROM that would be GREAT
Out there are alredy custom AOSP roms on the nexus 4 i think and the HTC one i read that on google
But i reckon it will be possible for most devices with cyanogenmod
You all do realize that this ain't such an easy thing to accomplish? Aside the "low memory requirement" that 4.4 offers, it is still a long shot. First of all, there's the thing with the drivers that we are stuck on since android 4.0, LG's final update. tonyp and pengus have done an amazing job regarding this, but as all of you might know, tony is upgrading. I'm not sure if to the N5 or Z1Mini, but regardless in one of his posts on the "The Rom" thread he stated that he yet does not know what to do with his love-hate o2x. Second of all, even cyanogenmod stated that they won't be updating older devices regardless of the 512mb requirement. Then there's NEON and the fact that even Google abandoned our Tegra. Other than that, I am more than satisfied with his 10.2 rom, and I'm currently using it as a daily driver. Other than that, install linux, sync repos and cook roms. This community has yet to die. Oh, or theme. Theming works well.
I may be new to the O2X community, but I read a lot.
NoDze said:
You all do realize that this ain't such an easy thing to accomplish? Aside the "low memory requirement" that 4.4 offers, it is still a long shot. First of all, there's the thing with the drivers that we are stuck on since android 4.0, LG's final update. tonyp and pengus have done an amazing job regarding this, but as all of you might know, tony is upgrading. I'm not sure if to the N5 or Z1Mini, but regardless in one of his posts on the "The Rom" thread he stated that he yet does not know what to do with his love-hate o2x. Second of all, even cyanogenmod stated that they won't be updating older devices regardless of the 512mb requirement. Then there's NEON and the fact that even Google abandoned our Tegra. Other than that, I am more than satisfied with his 10.2 rom, and I'm currently using it as a daily driver. Other than that, install linux, sync repos and cook roms. This community has yet to die. Oh, or theme. Theming works well.
I may be new to the O2X community, but I read a lot.
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I would love to learn how to code / cook ROMs but from what I've worked out you need to have a dedicated machine for the job?
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I would love to learn how to code / cook ROMs but from what I've worked out you need to have a dedicated machine for the job?
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Well, you do at least need a machine with linux dual boot. Cooking is far easier today than it was just a few years ago, I mean tony has a tutorial for cooking your own CM10 build, but yeah, it all depends on linux. There's a lot to download, also (I remember AOSP sources from 4.0 to be like 2 gigs. Or was it 2.3? Don't know, it was for the Optimus GT540 some time ago). All in all, it does take time, patience and some luck. I mean, every recognized contributor earned the title simply by trying. Try, fail, but don't brick and you'll do it
Issue is Linux has never worked well for me (force closes everyware! Which version would you recommend?
Guys anybody follow the XDA portal ? 5-6 phones (HI END PHONES which 2x is not since years ) are getting kit kat roms latest Moto X early one X and GS4 coming rly soon if it doesnt alredy have
Hello, what is on our LG 2X worker kit kat?
Sorry for my English
Magadaga said:
Hello, what is on our LG 2X worker kit kat?
Sorry for my English
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check its thread in the development section, it's promising.
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Rom Port Team Effort
Hello P880 community.
This post has the purpose to put together a group of users / developers, who are willing to participate into bringing a different set of roms into our community.
These set of roms that I'm thinking, can range from complete Sense ports to more customized and maybe less popular roms (like ColorOS, LiGux, FlymeOS, FluidUI, etc..).
What's valid on this thread:
- CM / AOSP (any base we already have) themed (like Samsung TouchUI, Optimus, Blur, etc..). So you can grab any rom (with author authorization), theme it (i mean, not just shove an apk as default theme, I mean neat theming ).
- Ports from other devices (evert port needs to have clear authors permission to port it).
- All users are very welcome, everyone can participate, users with porting / developing skills are needed as well.
The idea is simple, we're not going to use this thread to post the work, this is just a thread to talk about possible projects.
We can start by listing which devices are hardware compatible and the port is "easily" possible.
Roms that can be used as a base for eventual future ports.
CM10.2 - thanks to laufersteppenwolf for compiling this build promptly for this purpose
http://goo.im/devs/laufersteppenwolf/CM10.2//cm-10.2-20140305-UNOFFICIAL-p880.zip
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I strongly recommend the use of MultiRom for testing ports and other roms. That way you can maintain your working rom and whenver feeling adventurous you can without going through the hassle of backup / restore / yada yada yada that we are all too familiar with.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655988
- - List of Devices with hardware similar / close / identical to the 4X - -
- HTC One X
- HTC One X +
- More ??
- Possible roms to port:
Right now would be nice to see a OEM rom, such a touchwiz or Sense
Work in Progress
N/A available
(awaiting sugestions
So, what do you guys think? ? Any users with good porting skills ? I know we have good developers! Ideas? Sugestions?
Write away
A few guides from XDA - They may not be all you need to get the job done, but a LOT of important information is written here. Don't forget to thanks their authors
Guides / Tutorials
How to Port Roms by @saywhatt
How to Port Manufacturer Rom. by @GalaxyUser
How to port Stock/GB/CM7/CM9/ICS/CM10/JB Based ROMs by @Peteragent5
PS - Every work that is possible to port and if someone decides to invest time in it, it needs explicit authors permission.
Sure if a few people want a particular rom i can bring it to our device, but i would much prefer helping first time rom builders do this own their own then they can maintain it also
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Sure if a few people want a particular rom i can bring it to our device, but i would much prefer helping first time rom builders do this own their own then they can maintain it also
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Well, I though about some sort of "voting" to bring a "specific" rom.
Personally, I'd love to have Sense on our device. I had two HTC's before and I miss that Sense interface :b
But far as I'm aware, isn't an easy thing to port.
About your offer, this thread stands mostly with learning. The idea is everyone being able to contribute and more users start bringing roms as their first times. So, thank you so much for lending your help and know how, I'm sure we'll have a fine list of possible ports and then we can talk about how to port them over
Everyone can ask for help and the idea is to everyone who is able to - help.
I like the idea of this thread, but what would also be quite usefull is a list of available ROMs and their maintainer(s).
Also the list should include ROMs someone is working on ATM, so it cannot happpen that 2 devs are working on the same ROM
However, your idea is good, but porting a ROM not from sorce is quite hard, and might need some smali "hacking" in order to resolve bugs.
But well, we're a community, and I guess we can help each other if needed, right
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I like the idea of this thread, but what would also be quite usefull is a list of available ROMs and their maintainer(s).
Also the list should include ROMs someone is working on ATM, so it cannot happpen that 2 devs are working on the same ROM
However, your idea is good, but porting a ROM not from sorce is quite hard, and might need some smali "hacking" in order to resolve bugs.
But well, we're a community, and I guess we can help each other if needed, right
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That's correct! :good:
The main point is to learn helping each other who knows in a month or so, today's whiners are tomorrow's contributors
Jokes aside, the first post will be edited in order to structure and add information.
I'm gonna start with compatible devices (the ones that allow porting in a easy way). Ideas? Besides the HTC One X ? I'm guessing the grouper (N7 2012) besides having the same soc, doesn't have the same screen...
PS - (this would be better with an experienced porter) - Maybe we could start with a easy one, and go on from there
I know we have "how to port" threads all around xda ,but each port is different so we can't use "one hat to fit them all" ... or a ring to rule them all, so we should treat each port differently.
However.. I'm gonna put some xda links about porting to bring some light into the matter for who is "new" on this subject... or for whom's feeling adventurous and can't wait to have "their" rom on "our" device
Oh yes finally, have been waiting for a thread like this for a long time me as well would love to see a sense rom on this phone
cm/aosp roms are not that hard to port most of the time u only need the same screen resolution for it to work. (ported a nexus s touchwiz rom over to my old lg optimus 2x) but would have loved to see some oem roms ported over as well, even though it would be a lot harder to port over. but as a wonderful community as this is we might be able to pull it off
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That's correct! :good:
The main point is to learn helping each other who knows in a month or so, today's whiners are tomorrow's contributors
Jokes aside, the first post will be edited in order to structure and add information.
I'm gonna start with compatible devices (the ones that allow porting in a easy way). Ideas? Besides the HTC One X ? I'm guessing the grouper (N7 2012) besides having the same soc, doesn't have the same screen...
PS - (this would be better with an experienced porter) - Maybe we could start with a easy one, and go on from there
I know we have "how to port" threads all around xda ,but each port is different so we can't use "one hat to fit them all" ... or a ring to rule them all, so we should treat each port differently.
However.. I'm gonna put some xda links about porting to bring some light into the matter for who is "new" on this subject... or for whom's feeling adventurous and can't wait to have "their" rom on "our" device
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You can add the HOX+ to the list as well
About porting, you need to seperate it in two halfs, porting from source, and "winzipping". TBH, I'm no fas of winzipping at all, but some stuff (like sense or TW) can only be winzipped...
BTW, if you need a 2nd/3rd post, just let me know
Personally, I'd like to see a GFlex or even better, a G2 (/mini) ROM for our phone (KitKat, of course )
This thread has potential
I'm new to this forum,so i dont know whats going on about roms,i see there are few devs working full time.
I think this is the best way to go: Port ALL open source roms,such as we have already,but we need them all.
Second,make a badass kernel,with all features and customizations,possibly 3.4.
Third,and just a suggestion,Make a community ROM?
I really like this thread,and i even more like this OX4 community,you all get along,and i've missed that,i was on a forum that has no frendly people whatsoever.
And,about the roms,the idea is awesome,but i always think of the clash of clans rule,max everything out before going on a higher level.
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Regarding stock roms, it's an interesting thing, but I'm guessing stock roms are more trouble to port comparing to AOSP or CM.
I remember on the HTC Sensation forums the headaches sense brought to many developers and porters, the bunch of files that needed to be edited, kernel changes (aosp kernel is different from stock / sense kernel in that case).. so Stock roms are maybe harder to port fully.
Right now we have some apks from the G2 (lock screen, messaging, etc..), maybe someone will port some things from the Flex, but the whole base.. hum
@DeHuMaNiZeD , thanks for your reply
The other roms based of AOSP and CM, in my opinion, unless they're different (modded, themed, customized - etc..) but if not, if they are "clean" roms with no changes, then - we have them already I believe you'll agree. (Unless the idea is to test something).
A 3.4 kernel would be something, but perhaps a developer can shed some light here - what benefits would we have from a 3.4 kernel ?
A community rom is indeed long due. This thread is a different subject because it's about *several* roms, ports and tutorials, maybe you would like to create a thread here on General about that? You can start with votes (i believe it's a proper way to do it) with which base should we use (Cm, AOSP, Stock, etc..), included apps (or not), possibly aroma maybe and so on
DeHuMaNiZeD said:
This thread has potential
I'm new to this forum,so i dont know whats going on about roms,i see there are few devs working full time.
I think this is the best way to go: Port ALL open source roms,such as we have already,but we need them all.
Second,make a badass kernel,with all features and customizations,possibly 3.4.
Third,and just a suggestion,Make a community ROM?
I really like this thread,and i even more like this OX4 community,you all get along,and i've missed that,i was on a forum that has no frendly people whatsoever.
And,about the roms,the idea is awesome,but i always think of the clash of clans rule,max everything out before going on a higher level.
Sent from my LG-P880 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Well, this sounds quite good, but the real problem is: this is a hell lot of work. Also, it needs resources. The sourcecode of a ROM is ~25-30GB. When it's compiled it's about double the size, and takes my PC (8 cores @ 4GHz) about 75Min to compile. Not to mention the time 'til the sources are Downloaded. My 500GB HDD is near to its limit very soon, so sooner or later I will need a new HDD, then I might be able to get another ROM ported, but right now, hard...
Also, why do you need a 3.4 kernel?
MidnightDevil said:
Regarding stock roms, it's an interesting thing, but I'm guessing stock roms are more trouble to port comparing to AOSP or CM.
I remember on the HTC Sensation forums the headaches sense brought to many developers and porters, the bunch of files that needed to be edited, kernel changes (aosp kernel is different from stock / sense kernel in that case).. so Stock roms are maybe harder to port fully.
Right now we have some apks from the G2 (lock screen, messaging, etc..), maybe someone will port some things from the Flex, but the whole base.. hum
@DeHuMaNiZeD , thanks for your reply
The other roms based of AOSP and CM, in my opinion, unless they're different (modded, themed, customized - etc..) but if not, if they are "clean" roms with no changes, then - we have them already I believe you'll agree. (Unless the idea is to test something).
A 3.4 kernel would be something, but perhaps a developer can shed some light here - what benefits would we have from a 3.4 kernel ?
A community rom is indeed long due. This thread is a different subject because it's about *several* roms, ports and tutorials, maybe you would like to create a thread here on General about that? You can start with votes (i believe it's a proper way to do it) with which base should we use (Cm, AOSP, Stock, etc..), included apps (or not), possibly aroma maybe and so on
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For stock ROMs to work, it's your best bet to use AOSP as your base, and then look for what's missing/broken. This, however, means you need an AOSP base first to work with. And AOSP is not always the easiest thing to get properly running.
About the benefits of an 3.4 kernel: None IMO. All you get is a higher version-number, and that's it. We actually already have some 3.4 features backported, and also tweaked the 3.1 kernel quite a lot. So the actual benefits are all in your head (well, except you count bugs as benefits )
Community ROM? Meh, what for? We have so many ROMs already, so everyone should find the one that suits him/her best
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laufersteppenwolf said:
Well, this sounds quite good, but the real problem is: this is a hell lot of work. Also, it needs resources. The sourcecode of a ROM is ~25-30GB. When it's compiled it's about double the size, and takes my PC (8 cores @ 4GHz) about 75Min to compile. Not to mention the time 'til the sources are Downloaded. My 500GB HDD is near to its limit very soon, so sooner or later I will need a new HDD, then I might be able to get another ROM ported, but right now, hard...
Also, why do you need a 3.4 kernel?
For stock ROMs to work, it's your best bet to use AOSP as your base, and then look for what's missing/broken. This, however, means you need an AOSP base first to work with. And AOSP is not always the easiest thing to get properly running.
About the benefits of an 3.4 kernel: None IMO. All you get is a higher version-number, and that's it. We actually already have some 3.4 features backported, and also tweaked the 3.1 kernel quite a lot. So the actual benefits are all in your head (well, except you count bugs as benefits )
Community ROM? Meh, what for? We have so many ROMs already, so everyone should find the one that suits him/her best
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Why dont you set up that build server,i think they're cheap atm,or someone could borrow you? It would take a lot less time and effort. that's why i think offical rom support is important,once it's merged to the build bot,its their responsibility.
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DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Why dont you set up that build server,i think they're cheap atm,or someone could borrow you? It would take a lot less time and effort. that's why i think offical rom support is important,once it's merged to the build bot,its their responsibility.
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It's not as easy as you might think
I do have access to a buildserver, however I only have 100GB as it's a shared one, so this is genious for official builds, or quick tests/ports. But it isn't ideal for the long terms.
Also, having it official doesn't mean you're done you need to update it, and also fix it when it's broken. 'cause when it's broken, it can mess up the whole build process of the buildbot
But in general, you're right, having it official does help a lot
{fd}ware said:
Does anyone of you have a link to the latest CM10.2 (Android 4.3) for our device?
It seems like it's not anymore on get.cm and I wanted to start porting a TouchWiz (Note 3) ROM to our phone when I have free time
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I can't find them either, but I'm on a tablet so I can't look properly.
@laufersteppenwolf, do you have any *spare* 4.3 build?
MidnightDevil said:
I can't find them either, but I'm on a tablet so I can't look properly.
@laufersteppenwolf, do you have any *spare* 4.3 build?
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LOL, no, I do not, but gimme a few hours and I'll have one
Syncing right now
laufersteppenwolf said:
LOL, no, I do not, but gimme a few hours and I'll have one
Syncing right now
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Thank you
{fd}ware said:
BTW, did anyone tried to port a ROM this way? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245786
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Nope, I actually never "winzipped" a ROM
Lot of things to comment on here. Very good initiative I have to admit. I'm sure I'll have more ideas as the discussion evolves.
Similar hardware: You can add HOX+ as laufer said. Very minor differences are there only.
What I would personally prefer is TouchWiz, at least Nature UX 2.0, but new S5 UI is also really awesome. I liked Sense till 4.5, but 5.0+ versions are now out of my 'inner circles'. Especially what I don't like is the UI.
Few suggestions:
FlymeOS (from Meizu MX) - I got 2.0 booting last summer, but had touchkey issues (they were freezing the device lol) and never released it. Nobody ever booted 2.0+ on other Android devices yet.
Porting LG roms might be the best start, I think porting full Optimus G system wouldn't be that hard. Just a pain in the *ss merging process.
What we mainly need is same screen size (unless you wanna resizing 100+ apps ). Similar SoC is a good extra, but that's very limited. Also, it's better to avoid Qualcomm SoCs to port from, it's extremely hard, there are a lot of code changes in low-level code which just make the device get into deep segfault cycles. :cyclops: Even Exynos is easier to port from, trust me. I got SGS3 leaked 4.2 booting on the O4X last autumn.
Big issue we have to note: In 4.2, Google radically changed graphics libraries code. We have old, 4.1.2 blobs and those need hacks in libgui.so and libsurfaceflinger.so to function properly (in 4.4+ libEGL.so, libGLES_v1_CM.so and libGLES_v2.so also need a change). Here comes the problem: Manufacturers do change these libraries, mainly adding Wi-Fi display and HDMI support code which other blobs rely on. Of course we can't just replace these libs, graphics wouldn't function that way. Either we have to guess those function signatures and reimplement some stub in the code, or use new blobs, i.e. what I did in Omni. But y'all now those are not perfect _yet_.
Regarding newer kernels: If, I emphasize, IF it's properly ported, it would cause a noticeable effect on overall performance, battery life, etc. What do I mean by proper porting: All machine-specific code must be updated to Nvidia/Google upstream, no excuses! I don't say anything for sure, I didn't check it much, but kholk didn't do this merge. His kernel still uses 3.1 files with slight modifications to be 3.4-compatible. What I mean would be a very long and painful process, but would surely benefit after all. 3.4 has no Android branch, mainline Nvidia Tegra kernel does only have Linux support, it might be even harder. 3.10 is maintained by Google for Android, issues I have found so far: No graphics driver support for T2 and T3, have to forward-port it and I didn't find core Android components like wakelocks, earlysuspend, etc. Weird.
A little related story: I initially started working on MultiROM so I can test and port different roms while I can keep a stable rom for myself and there'd be no need for reflash then. That's what I can suggest. Use MultiROM, it has so many capabilities! Maybe it's better with kernel sharing so you don't have to wait for hardboot on every reboot (which one needs a lot if porting). @MidnightDevil you could add this to the OP maybe.
MidnightDevil said:
I can't find them either, but I'm on a tablet so I can't look properly.
@laufersteppenwolf, do you have any *spare* 4.3 build?
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Here you are! Compiled this because wanted to start porting from Note 2, but finally worked on Omni more and abandoned it.
{fd}ware said:
BTW, did anyone tried to port a ROM this way? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245786
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That's way too generic unfortunately.
Quick suggestion for you port: Use Note 2 base with Note 3 features. Note 2 has the same resolution and you won't need to resize.
Adam77Root said:
Lot of things to comment on here. Very good initiative I have to admit. I'm sure I'll have more ideas as the discussion evolves.
Similar hardware: You can add HOX+ as laufer said. Very minor differences are there only.
What I would personally prefer is TouchWiz, at least Nature UX 2.0, but new S5 UI is also really awesome. I liked Sense till 4.5, but 5.0+ versions are now out of my 'inner circles'. Especially what I don't like is the UI.
Few suggestions:
FlymeOS (from Meizu MX) - I got 2.0 booting last summer, but had touchkey issues (they were freezing the device lol) and never released it. Nobody ever booted 2.0+ on other Android devices yet.
Porting LG roms might be the best start, I think porting full Optimus G system wouldn't be that hard. Just a pain in the *ss merging process.
What we mainly need is same screen size (unless you wanna resizing 100+ apps ). Similar SoC is a good extra, but that's very limited. Also, it's better to avoid Qualcomm SoCs to port from, it's extremely hard, there are a lot of code changes in low-level code which just make the device get into deep segfault cycles. :cyclops: Even Exynos is easier to port from, trust me. I got SGS3 leaked 4.2 booting on the O4X last autumn.
Big issue we have to note: In 4.2, Google radically changed graphics libraries code. We have old, 4.1.2 blobs and those need hacks in libgui.so and libsurfaceflinger.so to function properly (in 4.4+ libEGL.so, libGLES_v1_CM.so and libGLES_v2.so also need a change). Here comes the problem: Manufacturers do change these libraries, mainly adding Wi-Fi display and HDMI support code which other blobs rely on. Of course we can't just replace these libs, graphics wouldn't function that way. Either we have to guess those function signatures and reimplement some stub in the code, or use new blobs, i.e. what I did in Omni. But y'all now those are not perfect _yet_.
Regarding newer kernels: If, I emphasize, IF it's properly ported, it would cause a noticeable effect on overall performance, battery life, etc. What do I mean by proper porting: All machine-specific code must be updated to Nvidia/Google upstream, no excuses! I don't say anything for sure, I didn't check it much, but kholk didn't do this merge. His kernel still uses 3.1 files with slight modifications to be 3.4-compatible. What I mean would be a very long and painful process, but would surely benefit after all. 3.4 has no Android branch, mainline Nvidia Tegra kernel does only have Linux support, it might be even harder. 3.10 is maintained by Google for Android, issues I have found so far: No graphics driver support for T2 and T3, have to forward-port it and I didn't find core Android components like wakelocks, earlysuspend, etc. Weird.
A little related story: I initially started working on MultiROM so I can test and port different roms while I can keep a stable rom for myself and there'd be no need for reflash then. That's what I can suggest. Use MultiROM, it has so many capabilities! Maybe it's better with kernel sharing so you don't have to wait for hardboot on every reboot (which one needs a lot if porting). @MidnightDevil you could add this to the OP maybe.
Here you are! Compiled this because wanted to start porting from Note 2, but finally worked on Omni more and abandoned it.
That's way too generic unfortunately.
Quick suggestion for you port: Use Note 2 base with Note 3 features. Note 2 has the same resolution and you won't need to resize.
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Dang, you've beaten me but mine's as fresh as it could be
HERE you guys go, for all who need the newest CM10.2
laufersteppenwolf said:
Dang, you've beaten me but mine's as fresh as it could be
HERE you guys go, for all who need the newest CM10.2
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Just don't delete the sources, you might need them in the close future.
I think we should create a schedule about what to do. As you all know, good buildings all have good grounding. So let's get started from the very beginning I say. First fix remaining bugs in MultiROM, then create a unified kernel so users don't have to choose. Very likely this is not possible as people think different so just make all kernels hardboot compatible. After these we have a solid base for starting all the work. Of course this cannot be done if not everybody is involved. Both devs and users should share a part in this magnificent journey.
(High expectations, I know. )
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