Bluetooth Tethering v Wifi Hotspot - Nexus 7 General

Currently been using my Nexus with my GSII and bluetooth tethering for internet access, thinking that bluetooth being lower powered, short range, its probly less demanding on the phones battery.
Does this still apply to modern devices with combined radios?
Also has anyone found a widget to connect/reconnect to a paired bluetooth device?
I think the nexus is going to deep sleep, and closes the connection to the phone. But it doesn't bring it back when it wakes...which means its Settings>Bluetooth>Click on Phone...which is 2 clicks too many!

cjb110 said:
Currently been using my Nexus with my GSII and bluetooth tethering for internet access, thinking that bluetooth being lower powered, short range, its probly less demanding on the phones battery.
Does this still apply to modern devices with combined radios?
Also has anyone found a widget to connect/reconnect to a paired bluetooth device?
I think the nexus is going to deep sleep, and closes the connection to the phone. But it doesn't bring it back when it wakes...which means its Settings>Bluetooth>Click on Phone...which is 2 clicks too many!
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just got it set up, it works great! Thanks for this, I was using Wi-fi tether the other day, killed all 3 of my batteries

I've been using WiFi tether at work; are you guys saying that using Bluetooth tether is less cumbersome on the battery?

I've been trying bluetooth tether all day today.
I have GSM Galaxy Nexus running official 4.1.1
Nexus 7, on 4.1.1 also.
I get them bluetooth paired up and bluetooth tethered via the Galaxy Nexus' cell data.
It works for like a minute then after that, they would disconnect (unpair from bluetooth).
Been doing this all day long every time I try.
Also the 2 are only 3ft away.
Any Ideas?
EDIT: Just saw this URL from another post.. guess it's a bug: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22369

nxt said:
I've been trying bluetooth tether all day today.
I have GSM Galaxy Nexus running official 4.1.1
Nexus 7, on 4.1.1 also.
I get them bluetooth paired up and bluetooth tethered via the Galaxy Nexus' cell data.
It works for like a minute then after that, they would disconnect (unpair from bluetooth).
Been doing this all day long every time I try.
Also the 2 are only 3ft away.
Any Ideas?
EDIT: Just saw this URL from another post.. guess it's a bug: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22369
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Same setup, and same issue.
On a side note is there a way to use NFC to automatically pair the two devices via Bluetooth? I'd like to just touch them together and voila they are paired?

doctahjeph said:
Same setup, and same issue.
On a side note is there a way to use NFC to automatically pair the two devices via Bluetooth? I'd like to just touch them together and voila they are paired?
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Just to pair normally? No.
But if you beam a picture, it auto turns on the bt, pairs, sends the picture, then turns off bt. The two devices does not have to be paired up beforehand either.
Google did show off new feature of NFC/BT at Google I/O during the sessions.
They showed off headphones and speakers that when you touch your JB device to the headphone/speaker, it auto pairs and audio starts playing.
So yes it's possible to auto pair devices, but those other devices need to support it.

This is a known bug with the galaxy nexus phone. It will kill BT tether when the phone goes into sleep.
Download an app called wake lock from the play store and set a partial wake lock and the problem will go away.
Your battery drain will be slightly higher though.
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ManMythLegend said:
I've been using WiFi tether at work; are you guys saying that using Bluetooth tether is less cumbersome on the battery?
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So far it seems to be, which it should as Bluetooth is a short range low powered protocol.
I wasn't sure that with the modern design in phones, when the radio's are all one chip, if the power saving would still apply.

nxt said:
I've been trying bluetooth tether all day today.
I have GSM Galaxy Nexus running official 4.1.1
Nexus 7, on 4.1.1 also.
I get them bluetooth paired up and bluetooth tethered via the Galaxy Nexus' cell data.
It works for like a minute then after that, they would disconnect (unpair from bluetooth).
Been doing this all day long every time I try.
Also the 2 are only 3ft away.
Any Ideas?
EDIT: Just saw this URL from another post.. guess it's a bug: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22369
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Try turning off your WiFi before pairing....I think that worked for me

Are you guys using that PDAnet and FoxFi setup in order to pair the devices? Thats the only way I can bt pair my galaxy nexus and nexus 7 together.

mmm, nope its native feature in the Resurection Remix rom I'm using on my GSII

Not having any luck installing PDANet 3.5 on the Nexus 7, any ideas?
Got FoxFi installed on my HTC Desire and ticked Bluetooth DUN. Can pair it to tablet but tablet doesn't get any Internet access, so need PDANet installed for that I think.
Edit: PDANet 2.20 on the market was installable, bluetooth tethering working ok now. Really old version though...
Further edit: Looks like it is "PDANet Tablet" version I'm using, hence the confusion. 2.20 appears to be the latest one.

Just tested BT tethering on my N7 with my SGS2 (which was using wifi at the time). Worked perfectly. I did a quick speedtest and got 750kbps down and 1500kbps up (weird wifi...). I was shocked I would get such good speeds over BT. Anyway, I like this option better then a wifi hotspot. First, it's easier to setup. Second, it (apparently) uses less power. And third, it will allow me to access some special hotspots I might not get on my tablet. For example, with AT&T, they give you free hotspot access at some locations with their devices. I wouldn't be able to use my tablet there directly, but could daisy chain through the phone. Coolbeans.

Bluetoothkeepalive works to keep the bluetooth connection for bluetooth tethering. Just trying it out and hasn't dropped yet over about 15 minutes.

OK a little help please. First off nothing is rooted.
I have installed pdanet and fifox on my HTC sensation. I can connect the Bluetooth from my nexus 7 to the sensation but I can't get internet access. I checked the setting in the Nexus "Use for internet access" but still nothing.
What else should I try?
Thanks for your help
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bigbeerdrinker said:
OK a little help please. First off nothing is rooted.
I have installed pdanet and fifox on my HTC sensation. I can connect the Bluetooth from my nexus 7 to the sensation but I can't get internet access. I checked the setting in the Nexus "Use for internet access" but still nothing.
What else should I try?
Thanks for your help
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Go on the tablet, into Bluetooth, and you should see your phone in there, click on it. It'll then say connected. You'll get internet access.

I have now noticed that the bluetooth connection does drop after a minute or so, which can be a little annoying.
I'll try bluetoothkeepalive.
Another good app to get is Bluetooth Auto Tethering, it keeps tethering as an option on every time your phone boots, no extra interaction on the phone to enable tethering every time. Just enable/disable the connection from the tablet to automatically turn tethering on/off on your phone!

bigbeerdrinker said:
OK a little help please. First off nothing is rooted.
I have installed pdanet and fifox on my HTC sensation. I can connect the Bluetooth from my nexus 7 to the sensation but I can't get internet access. I checked the setting in the Nexus "Use for internet access" but still nothing.
What else should I try?
Thanks for your help
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You might try going to Settings - More - Tethering & portable hotspot - check wi-fi hotspot and configure

barbo said:
You might try going to Settings - More - Tethering & portable hotspot - check wi-fi hotspot and configure
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You are right about that, I got stuck on doing that yesterday. As for the general discussion about bluetooth tethering vs. wifi tether. I tried it out today and I can say its much better on the battery life, but the speed is pretty low. I keep doing a speed test on my phone and couldn't get over 1.48 Mbps, then tried wifi tether and was easily getting over 5Mbps.

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bluetooth tethering

Hey,
sorry if this has been discussed already. I searched but couldn't find an answer.
I am wondering if I can tether the Galaxy tab from my blackberry Storm. ie. share the data from the Storm with the Tab.
I know about rooting the phone and changing the setting to allow wifi tethering. It seems to me that this only applies when tethering an Android device to the Tab via wifi. This wouldn't work with my phone because it doesn't have bluetooth.
So is there a way to provide internet to the tab via bluetooth from the Storm?
I tried blutooth thethering to my rooted droid eris and never got it to work. I went wifi a few day ago and it works well.
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Id like some info too. Blackberry bold 9700 here.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App
hope it works. I don't want to buy a new phone, atleast not yet!
can anyone help?
I tried Bluetooth tethering with my iphone 4 and was able to pair to recognize the iphone 4 and also on the iphone the galaxy pad was recognized however if you try to connect - the iphone 4 does not connect even though the Galaxy tab says it is paired.
Not sure what is the issue here. I read in the other issues with Bluetooth keyboard that they also have issues pairing certain keyboards.
I too want to use my iphone 4 data plan on the galaxy tab for data usage.
Anyone tried this or experience same problem?
Thanks
I m using the application "bluetooth file transfer" on my htc hero and it works just fine. And no need to root.
Didn't try on my tab though
Edit: sorry didn't read your post well thought you wanted to share files..
It disheartens me to see no activity in this thread. I'm really hoping for a bluetooth tethering option for my Blackberry (company won't give us any other option). Can't BB and Android just get along?!
Can anyone explain what the issue is with the Galaxy Tab and Bluetooth tethering?
They apparently have it working fine on the Xoom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968801
Why would it work there and not with Galaxy Tabs?
Not sure why this had to be done by Google in Xoom stock rom. Archos had has this feature. At first it would not work with BB. Then a forum member discovered the issue was the compression parameter. Recently archos incorporated this fix in the newest firmware and BB are tethering fine now.
Ordered a Galaxy Tab today. I will see if I can figure this out once it's here...
I've played with this issue on Archos Tab.
If someobody wants to play with this, here's some info on how we got it to work see here:
http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=46116
Hi
I have no problem on my blackberry 9780. I can tether this devices internet connection via bluetooth. the app name is PdaNet. Along with this app you can tether blackberry's connection to any device via bluetooth. It was successfull with my ex tablet.
however I couldnt manage to connect my galaxy tab. the issue to solve is the tab.
if we can find to connect this table via bluetooth (for internet sharing), the problem would be solved.
anyone has a solution?
thnx

Bluetooth Internet

Here's the situation.
Phone: LG Rumor Touch.
Yes, it's a complete crap phone with J2ME. It however, has pretty awesome Bluetooth. Unlimited Data.
Tablet: Streak 7 ofcourse.
Can't do anything with above phone unless an app is designed for that purpose. Plenty of file transfer apps, but, alas...
I want to leech internet off my phone so I can browse the web when on the road. I'm only ever without a hotspot when I'm stuck at Rite Aid for three hours while my mom is shopping (the perks of being the only unlicensed 18 year old). It'd also help so I could use the tablet as a replacement for my sister's tomtom when we go long distance (2 inch resistive screen? I might as well use my Rumor!).
Any tips or app recommendations?
Does the rumor have wifi?
It does not. It has Bluetooth and USB, and when usb connected to my PC, I can use it as a modem, but without buying a dock for the streak, that wouldn't be a viable solution.
angruss said:
Here's the situation.
Phone: LG Rumor Touch.
Yes, it's a complete crap phone with J2ME. It however, has pretty awesome Bluetooth. Unlimited Data.
Tablet: Streak 7 ofcourse.
Can't do anything with above phone unless an app is designed for that purpose. Plenty of file transfer apps, but, alas...
I want to leech internet off my phone so I can browse the web when on the road. I'm only ever without a hotspot when I'm stuck at Rite Aid for three hours while my mom is shopping (the perks of being the only unlicensed 18 year old). It'd also help so I could use the tablet as a replacement for my sister's tomtom when we go long distance (2 inch resistive screen? I might as well use my Rumor!).
Any tips or app recommendations?
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If your phone's rooted, install this:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
It'll let you tether over bluetooth.
So far as I know, you can't root a Java phone, but thank you.
angruss said:
So far as I know, you can't root a Java phone, but thank you.
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Thought it was a MyTouch Android phone; reading comprehension fail on my part.
I don't know if the LG Rumor Touch provides Bluetooth data access via DUN (Dial Up Networking) or PAN (Personal Area Network) profiles, but there is an app on the Market Place (Nook Color Bluetooth Tether) that will enable a PAN Bluetooth profile on some Android devices. It is intended for the Nook Color, but it may work on the Streak7 also. You will need to root your Streak in order to try it out.
Streak's already rooted, I'll give that a go.
bluetooth tethering
I'm curious too.
Running stock 2.2.2 rom (rooted) on DS7 (wifi only), I tried tethering with htc vogue running winmo 6.1 and htc vogue running cm7, no go. I tried using pdanet (both on ds7 and htc vogue cm7) nook color tether, and android wifi thing. No go.
Any solutions would be awesome.
Wifi is a battery drainer. Bluetooth much better as far as battery conservation.
thanks.
bluetooth tethering program & good DS7 build w/bluetooth?
Z4nd4r said:
If your phone's rooted, install this:
android-wifi-tether
Wireless Tether for Root Users
It'll let you tether over bluetooth.
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I might give this a try... but
1) This tethering program seems to be over WiFi not Bluetooth?
2) What build are you all using with a good Bluetooth stack?
but on my DS7 w/Honeycomb just power cycles on off...
when I click
Bluetooth
Turn on Bluetooth
it says "Turning On..." (grayed out) & then just cycle's back like it's off.
I might have to wait for a new build of HC
jackedint said:
I might give this a try... but
1) This tethering program seems to be over WiFi not Bluetooth?
2) What build are you all using with a good Bluetooth stack?
but on my DS7 w/Honeycomb just power cycles on off...
when I click
Bluetooth
Turn on Bluetooth
it says "Turning On..." (grayed out) & then just cycle's back like it's off.
I might have to wait for a new build of HC
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The app does bluetooth and WiFi (it's in the settings). If you want a stable ROM, either stay stock or use something like this (I use it pretty much just to have the black notification bar). DJ_Steve's HC port is an amazing feat, but it's still really buggy (mainly due to it coming from devices completely different than the S7).
Has anyone found a solution to data tethering the Streak 7 to another device via bluetooth?
I've got a Blackberry that will allow tethering over bluetooth, but the Streak 7 (T-mobile 4 G with stock ROM) doesn't have the proper bluetooth stack to do DUN. And it doesn't "connect" to the BB anyhow (although it pairs, and when paired I can send contacts to the Streak from the BB just fine).

Bluetooth Tethering issues....

I just got an N7 and really want this to work, the main reason I got it was for navi.
I have a rooted Droid 4 phone on Verizon, when I try to enable the bluetooth via FoxFi it says 'fail to open Bluetooth'. I click 'OK' to clear the dialog box and it appears that Foxfi is hanging at 'Starting Bluetooth'. I tap the box next to it and it says 'Bluetooth DUN on'.
I start PDA Net Tablet on the N7 (also rooted) and when prompted click 'DROID4' and it says 'fail to connect, make sure foxfi Bluetooth mode is enabeled on the phone side. Install foxfi if you haven't already.'
If I don't use Foxfi or PDAnet, I can get my phone and N7 to pair, but the N7 won't tether.
Any tips?
Seems like they really mucked up the networking support in ICS. USB tethering wasn't working for me either. When I dropped into adb to look around, I saw a whole bunch of oem_xxx chains and rules in iptables that I've never seen before. I flushed them all out, then manually entered a generic Masquerade rule and finally got USB tether to work. Maybe something similar is interfering with bluetooth tethering too. I dunno, I never use bluetooth tethering...
Thats way beyond my skills. I'm gonna try BT to another device, try and see if it's the d4 or n7 acting up.
FoxFi's wireless mode works fine, and OpenGarden's Mesh bluetooth tether works fine as well.
Don't know if this would work, but I used the stock tethering under settings. I was able to connect my Nexus 7 to my Droid 4 using Bluetooth. My Droid4 is rooted and it seems to work fine.
Are you on ICS?
kbeefy said:
Are you on ICS?
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Yes sir. I think so anyways.
System Version
6.16.217.xt894
Android Version
4.0.4
Build number
6.7.2-180
darkonion said:
Android Version
4.0.4
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Yup, 4.0 and up is ICS.
I've tried every configuration of settings I can think of. BT transfers work fine, but no tethering. And I don't have anything else BT capable to try tethering with.
kbeefy said:
Yup, 4.0 and up is ICS.
I've tried every configuration of settings I can think of. BT transfers work fine, but no tethering. And I don't have anything else BT capable to try tethering with.
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Here is what I did.
1. Have a rooted Droid 4.
2. Enable Bluetooth on both Nexus 7 and Droid 4.
3. Pair the devices. Forgot how to do this, but I think it is in the setting of both devices.
4. Go into settings on D4. Go to Tethering. Enable Bluetooth tethering.
5. On the Nexus 7, go into settings, click Bluetooth, and choose Droid 4. Bluetooth tethering on Droid 4 should start.
I do all that and it seems to work, I can do BT transfers, phone has internet, bt tethering is checked in phone settings, bt internet is checked in tablet, but for whatever reason the tablet doesn't have a network connection.
kbeefy said:
I do all that and it seems to work, I can do BT transfers, phone has internet, bt tethering is checked in phone settings, bt internet is checked in tablet, but for whatever reason the tablet doesn't have a network connection.
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Did you find a solution to this as I have the same issue tethering from a HTC One to 2 different tablets. One running ICS 4.0.4 and the other on Jellybean 4.1.1. They pair up no problem and transfer files but no internet connection.
I got bluetooth tethering to work with OpenGarden. IIRC, it stopped working after an update to one of my devices. Now I just use foxfi wifi when I need to tether, Haven't tried bluetooth in a while.

Bluetooth tethering with my phone.

I'm running the latest cm9 nightly, and I'd like to tether my touchpad to my nexus s using Bluetooth. I know I can use a WiFi hotspot, but Bluetooth tethering is way better for battery life on my phone.
I paired the devices, and the only configuration option for the connection is "Internet Connection Sharing". The devices connect just fine, the notification Bluetooth symbol is blue on both devices (indicating that they are connected), and the phone has the notification icon indicating that Bluetooth tethering is active.
The problem is, the touchpad always says it has no internet connection, and no apps have internet access.
When I end the Bluetooth connection, the Touchpad reboots.
Is it possible to do Bluetooth tethering with the touchpad, and if so, how do I do it?
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I think I may have solved it. I had flashed a new kernel on my phone this morning that apparently didn't like my Bluetooth. I got in my car and the same thing happened with my head unit. It said connected, but nothing was working. I restored my nandroid and Bluetooth was working again in the car. I haven't had a chance to check the touchpad yet.
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hummer010 said:
I'm running the latest cm9 nightly, and I'd like to tether my touchpad to my nexus s using Bluetooth. I know I can use a WiFi hotspot, but Bluetooth tethering is way better for battery life on my phone.
I paired the devices, and the only configuration option for the connection is "Internet Connection Sharing". The devices connect just fine, the notification Bluetooth symbol is blue on both devices (indicating that they are connected), and the phone has the notification icon indicating that Bluetooth tethering is active.
The problem is, the touchpad always says it has no internet connection, and no apps have internet access.
When I end the Bluetooth connection, the Touchpad reboots.
Is it possible to do Bluetooth tethering with the touchpad, and if so, how do I do it?
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk 2
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See my post here: Bluetooth Phone Tether App

Internet sharing over bluetooth

I have a high speed wired Internet connection at work, and would like to be able to connect to it with my N7. I bought the usb 4.0 dangle for my desktop, and can connect fine but can't figure out how to share the internet connection. I think I need to run some software on my N7? There seems to be a lot of discussion about tethering a windows laptop to a cellphone to share the cellphone's data connection, but not much about going in the other direction. Any help appreciated.
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Classpro said:
I have a high speed wired Internet connection at work, and would like to be able to connect to it with my N7. I bought the usb 4.0 dangle for my desktop, and can connect fine but can't figure out how to share the internet connection. I think I need to run some software on my N7? There seems to be a lot of discussion about tethering a windows laptop to a cellphone to share the cellphone's data connection, but not much about going in the other direction. Any help appreciated.
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Try searching for "USB tether" Google Play. There's more than a few free apps.
-PMS
PsychoMcSatan said:
Try searching for "USB tether" Google Play. There's more than a few free apps.
-PMS
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I'm not looking for usb tether. I'm looking to tether the nexus 7 to windows 7 over bluetooth 4.0. The only potential solution I've found is "open garden," but I'm a bit worried about security.
Classpro said:
I'm not looking for usb tether. I'm looking to tether the nexus 7 to windows 7 over bluetooth 4.0. The only potential solution I've found is "open garden," but I'm a bit worried about security.
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I think that's the only application for your exact need...if I come across any others I'll post here and let you know.
Or you could buy a cheap Wifi router? Bluetooth has very low transfer speeds. Max speed is 25mbps and that's probably on top of each other.
There is software on the net that turns your PC into a router and spits out internet over wifi. I had to use this in a hotel with wired only connections.
If your trying time avoid wifi for some reason... good luck. Bluetooth is a pain to setup but I'm.sure there are apps for it somewhere.
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Can't use a wifi router because they detect it and shut off the connection.
Open garden works perfectly, but some programs including k-9 mail don't think there is an Internet connection. Have to manually sync (which works). I've seen some suggestions that if I reinstall and set up k9 with the open garden connection it might work. When I get time I'll post results.
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Would something like a ZTE MF60 mobile hotspot work? it's a 3g wifi router, I use one with my N7 at work or out and about very successfully.
The downside is you wouldn't be using the works high speed connection but your own 3g connection which obviously you'd have to pay for.
This is not bluetooth, just USB, but maybe it can meet some of your needs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371345
player911 said:
Or you could buy a cheap Wifi router? Bluetooth has very low transfer speeds. Max speed is 25mbps and that's probably on top of each other.
There is software on the net that turns your PC into a router and spits out internet over wifi. I had to use this in a hotel with wired only connections.
If your trying time avoid wifi for some reason... good luck. Bluetooth is a pain to setup but I'm.sure there are apps for it somewhere.
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Possibly talking about connectify? I use it and it works well.

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