1.) I only hear people talking about 32gb flash drive versions, is there a reason for this?
2.) I also see that a USB sd card reader is an option. Should I get a USB flash drive or a SD card reader? Is price the only consideration there?
3.) One more question, with these cases like the rooCASE Multi-Angle and similar, do you think there will be room in the back of the case to stick the USB drive into the case so it doesn't hang out? Is this what people are doing?
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thename1000 said:
1.) I only hear people talking about 32gb flash drive versions, is there a reason for this?
2.) I also see that a USB sd card reader is an option. Should I get a USB flash drive or a SD card reader? Is price the only consideration there?
3.) One more question, with these cases like the rooCASE Multi-Angle and similar, do you think there will be room in the back of the case to stick the USB drive into the case so it doesn't hang out? Is this what people are doing?
Thanks!
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32GB is the max for FAT32. 64 GB sticks are usually formatted exFAT. My Acer A200 cannot use exFAT with its full sized usb host port, to my dismay.
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32GB is the max for FAT32. 64 GB sticks are usually formatted exFAT. My Acer A200 cannot use exFAT with its full sized usb host port, to my dismay.
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TY very much sir, that clears that up, does anyone have any answers/suggestions to the other two questions?
2.) I also see that a USB sd card reader is an option. Should I get a USB flash drive or a SD card reader? Is price the only consideration there?
3.) One more question, with these cases like the rooCASE Multi-Angle and similar, do you think there will be room in the back of the case to stick the USB drive into the case so it doesn't hang out? Is this what people are doing?
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thename1000 said:
2.) I also see that a USB sd card reader is an option. Should I get a USB flash drive or a SD card reader? Is price the only consideration there?
3.) One more question, with these cases like the rooCASE Multi-Angle and similar, do you think there will be room in the back of the case to stick the USB drive into the case so it doesn't hang out? Is this what people are doing?
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2. up to you depending on which one is more portable.
3. if there isnt, you can always buy velcro strips and just stick your usb stick to the case via velcro.
I'm using a 64 GB one now, no issues with stickmount at all
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32GB is the max for FAT32. 64 GB sticks are usually formatted exFAT. My Acer A200 cannot use exFAT with its full sized usb host port, to my dismay.
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Sorry but that is incorrect. FAT32 can support much larger than 32GB. Many external HDD's that are sold and pre-formatted are done with FAT32. The limitation you are thinking of goes back to Windows 2000 FAT32 driver which couldn't create a partition larger than 32GB but could access a partition larger than 32GB.
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Sorry but that is incorrect. FAT32 can support much larger than 32GB. Many external HDD's that are sold and pre-formatted are done with FAT32. The limitation you are thinking of goes back to Windows 2000 FAT32 driver which couldn't create a partition larger than 32GB but could access a partition larger than 32GB.
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Correct! :good:
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So it seems that the Kingmax 64gb microsdxc card doesn't work with the Tab. Hardly unexpected but hey you never know until you try. It just keeps asking me to format it over and over again.
Oh well, it works fine on my gs2
As far as i know, the tab only support 32GB sdcard.
More specifically, the microsdhc spec supports up to 32gb. Usually when they say a device only supports 32gb it's because it uses this spec so it implies this limit. But some newer devices specifiy microsdhc however they can use more than the 32gb limit. So that was my hope here.
Got it, so is a limitation about the sdcard tec, not a limit of tab hardware...
Well maybe both. Who knows. Maybe it's a good excuse for me to start cooking roms and writing kernels.
Back in the day...
Back in the old days, my old HTC XDA Exec, was not compatible with the new fangled technology of SDHC, and was only able to read SD until some enterprizing folks here at XDA created some updated drivers for it.
Remember the form factor is identical, only the file system (I believe, I may be wrong) of the SD/SDHC/SDXC system changes.
Hopefully someone can get the drivers from a device that does support SDXC to work with the Tabs SDHC reader.
I think your hardware actually has to support the new format, not just the software. My guess is that your old HTC actually supported SDHC at the hardware level, just not at the software level yet. I have a card reader in my desktop as well as one in my laptop that will only read SD, not SDHC, regardless of the size. I am pretty sure SDHC slots will never be able to read SDXC unless the hardware was actually built to support it, but we'll see.
What are you filling your Tab with?
I have been using my tab for over 6 months now and still have not used over 4GB, so the 16GB it has internally was always more than enough. I wonder what all of you are using the space for? Are you loading it with movies & Music or what else?
Any way you can always get the connector to attach a USB storage to your tablet and plugin an extra storage when needed. I mean you can archive your old movies & music to an external USB Drive!
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I have been using my tab for over 6 months now and still have not used over 4GB, so the 16GB it has internally was always more than enough. I wonder what all of you are using the space for? Are you loading it with movies & Music or what else?
Any way you can always get the connector to attach a USB storage to your tablet and plugin an extra storage when needed. I mean you can archive your old movies & music to an external USB Drive!
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Yeah, but who the $*%& want's to carry around an external when it could all be internal
Another idea, and I read through the thread and didn't see this mentioned. Would it matter if the card was broken up into two 32GB partitions?
This just made me think of this, does anyone know a partition type for android that would allow file transfer to SD Card over 4 GB? I've always thought that was a FAT limitation (which it is) but hadn't considered other supported format types that might allow for the bigger transfers but also be recognized by Android.
Now that's a burning question!
Most roms are ext4. Try using that. Downside, your windows boxes won't support these out of box
Thanks for the advice about the custom rom. I might give that a shot.
As for why I use this much, this tab is my car stereo so that means lots of music and movies for long trips. It's easy to eat up a lot of space that way.
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Most roms are ext4. Try using that. Downside, your windows boxes won't support these out of box
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Tried it, didn't work because I think Android is expecting it to be FAT32 when it's inserted. I wonder if there is a ROM out that would allow for EXT4 SD cards instead of having to use FAT32? Anyone heard of anything like that?
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Tried it, didn't work because I think Android is expecting it to be FAT32 when it's inserted. I wonder if there is a ROM out that would allow for EXT4 SD cards instead of having to use FAT32? Anyone heard of anything like that?
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My understanding of this might not be correct but I think fat32 shouldn't be an issue. The 64gb card I got is fat32 and my gs2 seems to use it fine.
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Tried it, didn't work because I think Android is expecting it to be FAT32 when it's inserted. I wonder if there is a ROM out that would allow for EXT4 SD cards instead of having to use FAT32? Anyone heard of anything like that?
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Also, which custom rom did you use?
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My understanding of this might not be correct but I think fat32 shouldn't be an issue. The 64gb card I got is fat32 and my gs2 seems to use it fine.
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Sorry, I kinda hijacked your thread. I was just thinking if you created two 32 GB partitions to see if it was a capacity limitation. I'm not using a custom rom right now, I was just wondering if there was a rom that would allow you to use ext4 on an as card for large file transfer. 64 GB would do me little good without alleviating the limitations of fat 32.
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I think TAB support maximum SD card is 32G... or u can try different format, it might be work....
Well after much wrestling with Odin I managed to flash Roderick's ef17 kernel and now the 64gb card works, Sky Wizard be praised!!
I don't know if it was the kernel or if my Tab was messed up. And video seems choppy, I'm not sure if it's a slow card or something else yet.
I can manage correctly USB pendrive up to 16 GB, but not 32 GB, do you know if is there a limit or if I need specific rom to manage it?
Thanks.
Hi make sure the pensively is formatted as Fat32 and with some they seem too only work if you have them in from when you boot up.
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I was seeing this limitation as well. I could see 16GB thumb drives or microSD cards, but not the 32GB versions.
I installed https://market.android.com/details?id=com.skidmrk.umswatcherotg, and now 32GB drives are useable.
I attached a screenshot.
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bwagner said:
I was seeing this limitation as well. I could see 16GB thumb drives or microSD cards, but not the 32GB versions.
I installed https://market.android.com/details?id=com.skidmrk.umswatcherotg, and now 32GB drives are useable.
I attached a screenshot.
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Thanks a lot, I will try. Is it valid too for large storages, as external hard disks?
beginner said:
Thanks a lot, I will try. Is it valid too for large storages, as external hard disks?
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external hard disks etc will only work if they have their own power source
I don't know if there are rules against posting sales but I noticed this sale on amazon. They have a 32gig microsd for $13.99 and one of those itty bitty "I would lose it in a second" flash drives 32gig for $20.71. For those people buying things for there newly acquired OTG cables
There are a couple of other things on sale as well
*This is the US amazon site*
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.ht..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1QNNW58WD3GV4T5W0JAH
They also have other products for sale
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.ht..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0Q5WMR6BWTJ98C0GCFXM
Just bought 2 of the 64gb micro sd cards, thanks!.
Blasted from my HTC Rezound (Zone23s Newtified 3.2.1)
I just ordered the 32gb version of the small usb flash drives yesterday to use for my N7. got shipping notification today. I paid $14.02 for it yesterday and see it's up to 19.96 today
Ordered a 32gb micro sd, 16gb micro SD, and a 32 GB flash drive for 50 bucks with shipping. Swaggg
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Ahh, the joys of Amazon Prime.
Blasted from my HTC Rezound (Zone23s Newtified 3.2.1)
All the reviews telling about poor writing performance on Ultra SDHC cards.
for example by Wei
"Second test was performed on Canon T3i DSLR with the same 3 SD cards tested above. In this test I set my DSLR to burst mode and TV mode with 1/50 sec. Within 30 seconds interval, I want to see how many pictures in RAW format my camera can shoot.
Results:
Sandisk Ultra 32GB class 10 30MB/s, 24 shots.
Sandisk Extreme III 4GB class 6, 34 shots
Transcend 16GB class 10, 33 shots."
I do not understand the purpose of this post... We don't have SD slots? Or am I mistaken? Can we open these babies up and slide in sd cards to replace the 16gbs?
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I do not understand the purpose of this post... We don't have SD slots? Or am I mistaken? Can we open these babies up and slide in sd cards to replace the 16gbs?
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No its for when you are using an OTG cable. It allows us to plug in hard drives, USB storage, cameras to transfer pics on the fly etc. you can pick up a cable for about $.60 with free shipping lol get a few, they get lost easily.
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I do not understand the purpose of this post... We don't have SD slots? Or am I mistaken? Can we open these babies up and slide in sd cards to replace the 16gbs?
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If you root the device then you can use a OTG cable to connect flash drives, memory card readers etc. you need to be rooted, keep that in mind.
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proud_whovian said:
If you root the device then you can use a OTG cable to connect flash drives, memory card readers etc. you need to be rooted, keep that in mind.
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Actually you do not need to be rooted anymore, just use the Nexus Media Importer app.
just fyi my radio shack has been running same deal like 20 bucks for the 32gb flash drive.
Nospin said:
Actually you do not need to be rooted anymore, just use the Nexus Media Importer app.
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oh, cool. good to know
Was in the process of sourcing parts to follow up suggestions in other threads for making a small external micro SD card reader, and came across these. The memory is fixed at 8, 16, or 32 GB but the price is less than I've been paying for the micro SD cards!
http://www.scan.co.uk/search.aspx?q=otg
From prior experience with the supplier, although currently available pre-order only the actual items will be on the shelf soon. Certainly be getting a couple, and find a different project to play with.
Taowtp said:
Was in the process of sourcing parts to follow up suggestions in other threads for making a small external micro SD card reader, and came across these. The memory is fixed at 8, 16, or 32 GB but the price is less than I've been paying for the micro SD cards!
http://www.scan.co.uk/search.aspx?q=otg
From prior experience with the supplier, although currently available pre-order only the actual items will be on the shelf soon. Certainly be getting a couple, and find a different project to play with.
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Nice. Might think about it.
For those on the other side of the pond: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...ingston+microDUO&rh=i:aps,k:kingston+microDUO
Ohgami_Ichiro said:
Nice. Might think about it.
For those on the other side of the pond: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...ingston+microDUO&rh=i:aps,k:kingston+microDUO
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Thanks for that link, I got the 16G version because of the direct plug into the device.. I've been wanting to try out F2FS and you gotta nuke the whole SD to do it, and I didn't really want to transfer it all over USB again. I think this will be much easier to deal with, and faster to transfer files back and forth from the device and get it back up again after formatting.
I'm planning to purchase either
the SanDisk Ultra Dual USB Drive, or
the Kingston DT microDuo, or
the Transcend JetFlash 380S.
They are very similar to each other. I wonder whether they differ on speed etc.
Any reviews based on experience with these or other dual USB drives are very much welcome.
zurpher said:
I'm planning to purchase either
the SanDisk Ultra Dual USB Drive, or
the Kingston DT microDuo, or
the Transcend JetFlash 380S.
They are very similar to each other. I wonder whether they differ on speed etc.
Any reviews based on experience with these or other dual USB drives are very much welcome.
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Dunno, but the Kingston linked in my post works great for both USB and MicroUSB on my G2 and N7.
zurpher said:
I'm planning to purchase either
the SanDisk Ultra Dual USB Drive, or
the Kingston DT microDuo, or
the Transcend JetFlash 380S.
They are very similar to each other. I wonder whether they differ on speed etc.
Any reviews based on experience with these or other dual USB drives are very much welcome.
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khaytsus said:
Dunno, but the Kingston linked in my post works great for both USB and MicroUSB on my G2 and N7.
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+1
Love it. I now keep all of my TWRP backups and Titanium backups on it. Frees up gobs of space and makes it so easy (and fast!) to transfer files to and from my PC.
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Love it. I now keep all of my TWRP backups and Titanium backups on it. Frees up gobs of space and makes it so easy (and fast!) to transfer files to and from my PC.
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I'm glad I got the 32g for just a few bucks more, my N7's whole SD card and a few TWRP's from each device and it's about full Although I could nuke the SD card backup now and free up a bunch of space.
It's a nice device, but almost too small. I'm afraid to carry it anywhere, so I put it in my zip-up earbud case since I carry them with me everywhere.
If you don't want cables or bits that plug in there's another Kingston option 'wireless card reader'
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Memory-Ca...ader&utm_medium=mymemory&utm_source=spotlight
Got one ordered just to try it out, the price seems very good for what it is.
So I was experimenting this evening and found that the M8 can't utilize my Meenova card reader (therefore, I wonder whether it will work with the equivalent Leaf product I saw announced recently).
However, when I pulled my USB OTG cable out, it read a USB drive just fine. That's a pleasant surprise, especially because it apparently does not require the Nexus Media importer (like my Nexus 7 FHD does) to access files on an external USB device.
I would assume, and I haven't tried this yet, that it would also read a hard drive (provided it was powered externally).
How was the SD card in the meenova formatted?
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How was the SD card in the meenova formatted?
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FAT32. It was a Sandisk 64g that used to run inside my Rezound and had worked with my Nexus 7 FHD via the Meenova previously.
Well I think it is because the M8 already have a SD slot and it can't adress the second.
Mine sees my meenova just fine with a sandisk 64, the red and gray ultra formatted FAT32. Try pulling the thing out slightly to where the hooks keep it from falling out and wait awhile, the first time it took a long time to mount but once it does it works fine afterwards.
It doesn't matter if a device has an external SD card, those are mounted as sdcard1 and so forth, OTG devices get mounted as usbdisk1 and on.
Lemme clarify that the phone can READ files from the meenova but can not write without modifying permissions.xml to reverse the 4.4 external media write protection.
that wouldn't have anything to do, I have no problems on my S3/S4 doing that
Unfortunately, I think it is the Meenova that is incompatible with the m8. I have an AT&T-branded m8, stock, and when the Meenova is plugged in, Android is cycles back and forth between mounting and unmounting it.
I take the microSD out of the Meenova and plug it into a USB reader in a USB-OTG cable and the m8 mounts it just fine.
I'm going to contact Meenova and see if they have any ideas.
I have both the Meenova and an OTG cable. I have tried multiple cards that work in my PC and tablet. None will mount on my M8. It just keeps flashing "Safe to Remove" and "Device Removed Unexpectedly" over and over.
Mine did the same thing of mounting/umounting also, until i pulled on it slightly because i thought the contacts were not making a proper connection. Pulled it slightly back to where the hooks caught it and it worked ok after. Probably not a great solution but just reporting that it does work with my meenova.
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lacrossev said:
Mine did the same thing of mounting/umounting also, until i pulled on it slightly because i thought the contacts were not making a proper connection. Pulled it slightly back to where the hooks caught it and it worked ok after. Probably not a great solution but just reporting that it does work with my meenova.
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cant get mine to work at all . glad to see others having the same issue.
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cant get mine to work at all . glad to see others having the same issue.
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Same here.
ps3 pad now works using ElementalX kernel, hopefully he will add otg support
Just looked on the meenova site and they explicitly point out that HTC One M8 (2014) is not supported. It would have been nice to get an idea if they plan to fix this or produce a new model that will support our phones For the time being I am using a USB OTG cable to connect to a Kingston USB3, it works but is bulky an inconvenient.
Really need the meenova to work so I can get around the no writing to ext sdcard from Kit Kat 4.4.
I got myself one of these, works flawlessly!!!
i have this:
http://www.sandisk.com/products/usb/dualdrive/
works flawlessly with My Nexus 7 FHD (CM11), and my hTC One m8 (Stock)
Ather said:
i have this:
http://www.sandisk.com/products/usb/dualdrive/
works flawlessly with My Nexus 7 FHD (CM11), and my hTC One m8 (Stock)
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I looked into those, but could not fight any stock in UK or cheap delivery to UK,
Lord Morpheus said:
I looked into those, but could not fight any stock in UK or cheap delivery to UK,
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ah we had these locally available, purchased a 32 GB one which is almost full, wil get a 64Gb
Edit see these:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDDD-064G-G46-Ultra-Dual-Drive/dp/B00HR7J3CA
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1984266.htm
Ather said:
i have this:
http://www.sandisk.com/products/usb/dualdrive/
works flawlessly with My Nexus 7 FHD (CM11), and my hTC One m8 (Stock)
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Ather said:
ah we had these locally available, purchased a 32 GB one which is almost full, wil get a 64Gb
Edit see these:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDDD-064G-G46-Ultra-Dual-Drive/dp/B00HR7J3CA
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1984266.htm
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Ohhh thanx for that, I looked a few months back and could not find it, so got the Team M141. Have saved linked and will get one when I need it
Are you serious guys? Meenova doesn't work on your m8? Mine works fine. I tested it with a data transfer from meenova to internal sd card (2 gb file) worked good. Only thing is i can't use the meenova and headphone at the same time. Not enough space to put the headphone plug in with meenova inserted.
I can chime in and say that i found some old cables for hooking up internal drives yesterday. Hooked up a 2TB hitachi drive, worked like a charm.
Streaming from drive to chromecast didn't pose any problems either.