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Somewhat oriented towards cycling, but can be used for walking or driving, this software grabs coordinates from the built-in (or external) bluetooth device and uploads the data to a website in real time. I believe you can also view the current location real time, or the current route, or previous routes! It has a website that you register a user/pass with which also goes into the program for uploading. When you want to view your routes, you go to a slightly different place on the same server and it appears to use Google Maps to overlay the information.
It also has the option to store the data and upload it later.
I've just experimented with it a little, but so far it's quite cool. I see some other related software to this discussed around here, so figured some folks might be interested.
I have found one bug which I'm going to report.. If the data connection gets severed it seems to get confused and can't re-start tracking, then it crashed on me, but no biggie, just started it back up.
I think I'll also make a suggestion for log frequency.. Right now I think it's logging per GPS frequency (1 per second) but for slower moving transportation or for potential battery/data savings, I think it could easily be changed to higher values, such as 1 data point in 5, 10, 15s etc..
Check it out, http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-biketrack-v0-81.html
BTW, no affiliation with the author, just found the SW yesterday and think it's rather cool.
khaytsus said:
Somewhat oriented towards cycling, but can be used for walking or driving, this software grabs coordinates from the built-in (or external) bluetooth device and uploads the data to a website in real time. I believe you can also view the current location real time, or the current route, or previous routes! It has a website that you register a user/pass with which also goes into the program for uploading. When you want to view your routes, you go to a slightly different place on the same server and it appears to use Google Maps to overlay the information.
It also has the option to store the data and upload it later.
I've just experimented with it a little, but so far it's quite cool. I see some other related software to this discussed around here, so figured some folks might be interested.
I have found one bug which I'm going to report.. If the data connection gets severed it seems to get confused and can't re-start tracking, then it crashed on me, but no biggie, just started it back up.
I think I'll also make a suggestion for log frequency.. Right now I think it's logging per GPS frequency (1 per second) but for slower moving transportation or for potential battery/data savings, I think it could easily be changed to higher values, such as 1 data point in 5, 10, 15s etc..
Check it out, http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-biketrack-v0-81.html
BTW, no affiliation with the author, just found the SW yesterday and think it's rather cool.
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So does this and it works better http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340667
this might work better for you
http://free.3dtracking.net/
or the even better solution..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386477
I was going to check out the TrackMe solution but it required .net 3.5 and I didn't want to get into that, as I've heard that can break other software that's written for 2.0.
The other two programs I'll check out, thanks!
Thanks for you email (i will reply to that lateron) and for this thread on the forum, I already had one here! It really was a couple of days college assignment (well the idea was mine, but we had to do something with mobile devices) which I updated so it was usable for multiple users!
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Thanks for you email (i will reply to that lateron) and for this thread on the forum, I already had one here! It really was a couple of days college assignment (well the idea was mine, but we had to do something with mobile devices) which I updated so it was usable for multiple users!
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Doh, I just searched the Kaiser subforum.
Couple days? Nice! I'd love to see what happens with a couple more days!
Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone knows what "Remote Sim Mode" is on Captivate? I recently upgraded to Froyo from android 2.1. I noticed that whenever I turn on my "bluetooth" on my Captivate, the bluetooth icon will show up. If I push the "bluetooth" button again, a message will show up saying that "Remote Sim Mode Activated". I never seen this message on android 2.1.
Remote Sim Mode
Hope that helps!
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Remote Sim Mode
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i Googled "android remote sim mode" and it brought me to this thread.
Thanks for your contribution.
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i Googled "android remote sim mode" and it brought me to this thread.
Thanks for your contribution.
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But if you had done it 7 days, before this thread existed, it would not have brought you to this thread.
Google is the internet users best friend. A couple key strokes and some good know-how and you can find anything you want.
I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM SEARCHING FOR REMOTE SIM MODE, THERE WASN'T A CLEAR SEARCH TERM BUT BROKE IT DOWN INTO SMALLER TERMS IN GOOGLE BEING "REMOTE SIM BLUETOOTH".
RESULT:
SIM Access Profile (SAP, SIM, rSAP)
This allows devices such as car phones with built in GSM transceivers to connect to a SIM card in a phone with Bluetooth, thus the car phone itself doesn't require a separate SIM card. This profile is also known as rSAP (remote-SIM-Access-Profile).
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SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile#SIM_Access_Profile_.28SAP.2C_SIM.2C_rSAP.29
HOPEFULLY IT HELPS EVERYBODY
*INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY
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Remote Sim Mode
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Saying "Google is your friend" is a failed attempt at saying "I Don't Know".
So please instead of acting like some prissy tech know it all, why not actually contribute something useful to the conversation instead of getting your jollies off by being a smart ass?
I mean not all of us are some lonely geek sitting in their parents basement getting off on some image board, spouting off memes like they are gospel...
It's people like you that make tech forums like this unbearable when it comes to the sharing of knowledge and information. At the very least if you were so wise and sage, you could have posted a link supplying the answer.
But no, you couldn't even take the time out of your busy trolling to even do that. You have to be all cute and cool and go "Google is your friend".
Yes, Google is our friend, it brought us to this place and met idiots such as yourself. Google is an infinitely better friend than you could ever hope to be.
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Saying "Google is your friend" is a failed attempt at saying "I Don't Know".
So please instead of acting like some prissy tech know it all, why not actually contribute something useful to the conversation instead of getting your jollies off by being a smart ass?
I mean not all of us are some lonely geek sitting in their parents basement getting off on some image board, spouting off memes like they are gospel...
It's people like you that make tech forums like this unbearable when it comes to the sharing of knowledge and information. At the very least if you were so wise and sage, you could have posted a link supplying the answer.
But no, you couldn't even take the time out of your busy trolling to even do that. You have to be all cute and cool and go "Google is your friend".
Yes, Google is our friend, it brought us to this place and met idiots such as yourself. Google is an infinitely better friend than you could ever hope to be.
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Ouch, haha. A bit harsh maybe, but well said.
I also had less-than-stellar luck when googling "remote sim mode" when my phone decided to put itself there. Soooo don't hate on us just cause we come here hoping for a little bit more clearly stated answers. :-/
Thanks
It just really irks me because these forums exist for a reason. Yes, I will agree that most people don't take the time to look through the forums. But on the other hand, looking through hundreds of posts can be a bit daunting at times too especially if your a noob which can get discouraging.
It's a forum, not IRC. Instead of cluttering it up with nonsense and bickering... just give the answer or shut up...
Now... with that being said, this is what I have discovered: The Bluetooth remote sim mode has something to do with connecting to your cars Bluetooth receiver so that you can make phone calls from your car to your phone.
Why it automatically comes on after you turn off the Bluetooth radio via the drop down menu is beyond me.
So you open up the drop down menu and you push the module and it comes up with "Deactivate Remote SIM mode?" dialogue box.
Click Yes it ideally turns it off. Click No it cancels out of the dialogue box. Clicking yes however... doesn't seem to do anything anyways which is the problem we all seem to be running into.
So what do we do? Well we can reset our phones. Cognition v2.2Beta8 has a nice little reset option when you long hold down the lock button on the side.
Of course this gets kinda annoying every single time.
All is not lost though. What you can do is this: Go into Settings>Wireless and Network>Bluetooth settings and turn on/off Bluetooth from there.
If Bluetooth is off, you can just turn it on from the drop down menu. However if it is on and you want it off, I would suggest turning it off from the settings menu.
When you uncheck the green checkmark that says "Bluetooth", three things are going to happen. One, your going to turn off the Bluetooth Radio. Two, in the status bar there is going to be a message saying "Remote Sim Mode Activated". Three, and this is what we are trying to accomplish, a small dialogue box is going to pop up on the bottom saying "Remote Sim Mode Deactivated". This is essentially what we want to happen.
I don't know why it works this way. However I have noticed that there are a few quirks in the drop down menu from time to time. Perhaps this is just one of the more prevalent ones.
I hope this helped a bit. I'm not a developer or a programmer, just a modder who likes tweaking and likes to learn from the devs who take a lot of time and effort in to making our devices work better. I also hope that you don't mistake the inconsiderate, idiotic reply of "cappysw10" as the general attitude of people who post on this forum.
Most of the people here are pretty cool and are more than willing to help out
Good Luck and happy modding
I agree, these forums are getting hard to ask and get answers in withlut smart butt comments and flaming. Even when posted in the right place! Its getting out of control. : ( I dont post often, but read ALL the time. Some of us need REAL help. I actualy did Google this very remote sim trouble, found NO good help. Went back to stock. Waiting a real fix.
Little harsh but necessary I guess
I am reaaly not sure what remote similar implies is going on but if I turn my Bluetooth back on and the back off it deactivates
Captivate
Cog 2.2
mine acted stupid first time and has been shutting off appopriately since. It still pops up but cancels itself. CoG 9
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Now... with that being said, this is what I have discovered: The Bluetooth remote sim mode has something to do with connecting to your cars Bluetooth receiver so that you can make phone calls from your car to your phone.
Why it automatically comes on after you turn off the Bluetooth radio via the drop down menu is beyond me.
So you open up the drop down menu and you push the module and it comes up with "Deactivate Remote SIM mode?" dialogue box.
Click Yes it ideally turns it off. Click No it cancels out of the dialogue box. Clicking yes however... doesn't seem to do anything anyways which is the problem we all seem to be running into.
So what do we do? Well we can reset our phones. Cognition v2.2Beta8 has a nice little reset option when you long hold down the lock button on the side.
Of course this gets kinda annoying every single time.
All is not lost though. What you can do is this: Go into Settings>Wireless and Network>Bluetooth settings and turn on/off Bluetooth from there.
If Bluetooth is off, you can just turn it on from the drop down menu. However if it is on and you want it off, I would suggest turning it off from the settings menu.
When you uncheck the green checkmark that says "Bluetooth", three things are going to happen. One, your going to turn off the Bluetooth Radio. Two, in the status bar there is going to be a message saying "Remote Sim Mode Activated". Three, and this is what we are trying to accomplish, a small dialogue box is going to pop up on the bottom saying "Remote Sim Mode Deactivated". This is essentially what we want to happen.
I don't know why it works this way. However I have noticed that there are a few quirks in the drop down menu from time to time. Perhaps this is just one of the more prevalent ones.
I hope this helped a bit. I'm not a developer or a programmer, just a modder who likes tweaking and likes to learn from the devs who take a lot of time and effort in to making our devices work better. I also hope that you don't mistake the inconsiderate, idiotic reply of "cappysw10" as the general attitude of people who post on this forum.
Most of the people here are pretty cool and are more than willing to help out
Good Luck and happy modding
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Hey thanks! Googled remote sim first thing, found out what it was and that it doesn't apply to me. Came to this forum to find an answer and YOU PROVIDED ONE YAY! Not necessarily happy with how the drop-down reacts but knowing how to avoid that annoying message is VERY USEFUL! And I only had to wade through a few message to find your answer! DOUBLE YAY!!
hey all thanks for the thanks! I'm glad that I was able to help a bit with a few observations.
Just a few more before I go, It would seem to me that the entire notifications drop down menu is buggy.
For me, none of the buttons work as they should whether it be WiFi, bluetooth, etc...
Just about all of those functions have to be set in the settings dialogue that I mentioned about before.
I haven't update Cognition in a month now, so he might have gotten to fixing it by now, I cannot say.
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Thank you. Best one-liner in a while. I also agree that if a question is asked and your response isn't toward answering the question it's fruitless.
Either answer or don't. I respect either but the taking up of space that doesn't contribute to the solution is useless.
(Much like my response. )
Hope this helps
Idk what causes this or why or how to fix it, BUT if you just turn the bluetooth back on and then off again it deactivates the remote sim. You don't have to do it through the settings, you can use the drop down menu or if u have the control panel widget you can use that. Just on and then off again. Hopefully this will get fix cuz it is annoying to have to push the button two extra times.
wow
cappysw10 said:
url... Remote Sim Mode
Hope that helps!
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This actually pissed me off a little, and I appreciate other people's responses.
You know how I found this thread? By googling "What is remote sim mode"
troll successful, hope you feel good.
Sobriquet said:
This actually pissed me off a little, and I appreciate other people's responses.
You know how I found this thread? By googling "What is remote sim mode"
troll successful, hope you feel good.
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And you made your first post now to tell us this? We had all moved on past that already and gotten the information we wanted, why revive a dead thread?
Remote Sim Mode
I guess no one actually found out what this is. Just a question did you have your bluetooth connected to your cars bluetooth handsfree? I know I have a handsfree in my car built in, from what I've read on wikipedia it has something to do with the car having a remote connection through the sim card in the phone. Maybe if your phone has the bluetooth on it still has a paired setting for your car and turning it off calls up this remote sim mode thing to show up. I don't know but I believe this is what causes this. When you turn it off and turn it back on it doesn't appear again after you turn the bluetooth back on. I've noticed this only if I connect with the car and turn the bluetooth off on the phone.
gdmuscle said:
I guess no one actually found out what this is. Just a question did you have your bluetooth connected to your cars bluetooth handsfree? I know I have a handsfree in my car built in, from what I've read on wikipedia it has something to do with the car having a remote connection through the sim card in the phone. Maybe if your phone has the bluetooth on it still has a paired setting for your car and turning it off calls up this remote sim mode thing to show up. I don't know but I believe this is what causes this. When you turn it off and turn it back on it doesn't appear again after you turn the bluetooth back on. I've noticed this only if I connect with the car and turn the bluetooth off on the phone.
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Did you not read the thread? It was answered in post #8.
Also it doesn't matter if the phone is synced to your cars handsfree or not. My phone does it when its connected to my car, not connected to my car, sending a file over Bluetooth, really anytime I toggle BT on and off. Its impartial to the situation in which Bluetooth is activated.
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Short Story: Is there anyway to make the nexus start working without WiFi?
Long Story: Sherman, set the Way-Back Machine for about a month ago. So there I was the day of the Google I/O conference refreshing the google play store over and over again until the moment I could order my Nexus 7. Needless to say I ordered it the minute I could. Today I recieved my Nexus 7. It took a while to get here. I picked it up from the mailroom three hours ago. I let it charge and turned it on. First screen asks for my country. Second screen says searching for WiFi. And there I sit because , I don't have WiFi. Is there a workaround for this? Or do I have a $250 paperweight, until I get home later this year?
I can't be the only one with this problem.
Resources available to me:
1) I have a laptop that is connected to very slow internet (ethernet, not wireless). It has USB ports, but I don't think theres a way to share internet through USB. I can not attach a wifi router to this network.
2) I have WiFi where I sleep, but I need to open a browser and put in a username and password to log in. I don't think that will work because I can't get to the web browser part of this.
My last resort is to mail it back home to have family activate it and then mail it back to me. Kind of absurd. Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks,
Josh
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ATTN TROLLS: before replying and looking stupid, make sure to read the whole thread. The problem has been resolved. I even explained how I resolved it for other people with potentially the same problem. I have also clearly explained why I bought the Nexus 7. A tablet is a tablet. Without WiFi it still lets me read books, play games, do Sudoku puzzles, and watch episodes that I bring back on a USB thumb drive. I used it to replace my Nook Color running CM7. I have enough WiFi back in my room to browse the web and check my email.
Thanks to everyone that offered constructive help.
To the trolls, I hope you get pushed down a slide of razors into a pool of acid.
Does the laptop ha e wifi, if so you can share the wired internet connection wirelessly via connnectify
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Go to Starbucks or McDonalds, Lol
You wouldn't happen to have a neighbor with an open network you could leach off of do you?
That seems like a serious oversight if this is the case.
If you have Windows 7: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/9739/turn-your-windows-7-laptop-into-a-wifi-hotspot-with-connectify/
gijosh28 said:
Anyone have any suggestions?
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Find and use some nearby wi-fi ?
hullbay said:
Go to Starbucks or McDonalds, Lol
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This, seems easy enough. Go get a coffee
Well, if you are rooted (should be able to root without setting up) then you can just kill the 'setup', process through adb on your pc. You could also try to flash a ROM without that set up process. Like CM
I thought this when I was setting up my tablet and wondered when would happen if someone didn't have wi fi available immediately.
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Well, if you are rooted (should be able to root without setting up) then you can just kill the 'setup', process through adb on your pc. You could also try to flash a ROM without that set up process. Like CM
I thought this when I was setting up my tablet and wondered when would happen if someone didn't have wi fi available immediately.
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Or this. But hey, go grab a coffee, then root.
I had wifi and it still couldn't detect it when i turned it on! I panicked and i sat there at the first screen bevause there was no option to manually enter wifi settings. My network has secure and ssid off, but couldn't even see neighbours (ssid on).
But I tethered insecure net from phone to get past first screen. Should be able to borrow a friend's internet this way, it doesn't download much.
I have no idea how you plan to use the n7 w/o wifi, at least during setup, it is in terms of service...
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Not sure if this still works, but you used to be able to bypass activation by touching all four corners of the device. Top left, top right, bottom right, and bottom left.
I tried the four corners thing. It didn't work. Unfortunately there are no McDonalds or Starbucks near me. I only have these two networks to work with. I bough it to replace my Nook (CM7), which I use to watch episodes of TV shows. I bring the mSD card to work, and put episodes on it, then bring it back to the room and watch them till I fall asleep. With the Nexus I was intent on copying my episodes over through the ethernet cable by day, and taking it back to the room to watch them at night. I guess I'll have to keep watching my shows on my Nook. Sucks. New toy is useless.
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Does the laptop ha e wifi, if so you can share the wired internet connection wirelessly via connnectify
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This would work. Unfortunately I can't connect anything wireless to this network. I might try to sneak this solution. This is the second to last resort. Thanks for the advice/idea!
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Well, if you are rooted (should be able to root without setting up) then you can just kill the 'setup', process through adb on your pc. You could also try to flash a ROM without that set up process. Like CM
I thought this when I was setting up my tablet and wondered when would happen if someone didn't have wi fi available immediately.
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I haven't seen any instructions on how to root the device prior to initializing it. Is it possible?
Thanks,
Josh
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I tried the four corners thing. It didn't work. Unfortunately there are no McDonalds or Starbucks near me. I only have these two networks to work with. I bough it to replace my Nook (CM7), which I use to watch episodes of TV shows. I bring the mSD card to work, and put episodes on it, then bring it back to the room and watch them till I fall asleep. With the Nexus I was intent on copying my episodes over through the ethernet cable by day, and taking it back to the room to watch them at night. I guess I'll have to keep watching my shows on my Nook. Sucks. New toy is useless.
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I take it u can't skip the sign in like on phones, if u have no way of getting on a wifi network, you can possibly try to kill the setup process via adb...its not really a google oversight, its 2012 WiFi networks are rather easy to find.
I guess I'm just lucky enough to be where they aren't easy to find.
I just tether from my phone
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I have no cell phone coverage here. Although I might be able to use my cell phone to connect to the wireless back at the room, use the cell phone web browser to log on, then tether it to my Nexus. That might work. I'll try that tonight.
gijosh28 said:
Short Story: Is there anyway to make the nexus start working without WiFi?
Long Story: Sherman, set the Way-Back Machine for about a month ago. So there I was the day of the Google I/O conference refreshing the google play store over and over again until the moment I could order my Nexus 7. Needless to say I ordered it the minute I could. Today I recieved my Nexus 7. It took a while to get here. I picked it up from the mailroom three hours ago. I let it charge and turned it on. First screen asks for my country. Second screen says searching for WiFi. And there I sit because , I don't have WiFi. Is there a workaround for this? Or do I have a $250 paperweight, until I get home later this year?
I can't be the only one with this problem.
Resources available to me:
1) I have a laptop that is connected to very slow internet (ethernet, not wireless). It has USB ports, but I don't think theres a way to share internet through USB. I can not attach a wifi router to this network.
2) I have WiFi where I sleep, but I need to open a browser and put in a username and password to log in. I don't think that will work because I can't get to the web browser part of this.
My last resort is to mail it back home to have family activate it and then mail it back to me. Kind of absurd. Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks,
Josh
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use a WIFI dongle to attach to your laptop. make it a hotspot using "connectify" software and connect your nexus to it. your laptop must have internet access.
setup aside, how did you plan on managing files etc on the n7 long term without wifi?
Seems there are other products more suited to your needs if you aren't going to use any online or network features.
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Ok guys, as i'm browsing, I keep seeing the same questions over and over gain in different threads talking about Google Wallet. I want to put everything out here in one thread. Keep in mind i'm in the US, I know our foreign friends will be different as Google is still working on getting it working outside the US. So this guide is for you US peeps.
1.) Yes, GW works fine on rooted devices. A banner will show that your device is unsupported, and a warning may appear during checkout...ignore this. The app still works just fine. The reason it says "Unsupported Device" is because when you are rooted, there is a security risk for GW (just like there's one for you device as a whole).
2.) GW will not appear on the Play Store from your device. However, if you go to the Play Store on your computer, it will be there.
3.) You have heard there was an update that allowed you add all major credit cards, but you can't see how to update it. You have two options:
~a.) My most recommended option. Go to the Play website using your computer. Click on 'My Android Apps'. Choose the Asus Nexus 7. Scroll through the installed apps until you find "Wallet." Click it. Click on 'INSTALLED' and it will offer to send the update to you. Send it to your N7, you may need to be on wi-fi, I'm not sure about that. Now you'll have the other options for credit cards.
~b.) IF IF IF IF IF and ONLY IF the first option does not work, you can use the hacked apk found here. Just follow the instructions. Now if you are outside of the US, there are instructions in that thread for getting GW to work outside of the US. If you have issues, post them there so the developer can work on it. It is his apk, so he needs to know of issues, not me.
4.) You have added your credit/debit card. When you use GW, it will actually use your virtual master card that goes through Google, which will then debit from your actual card. What does this mean? It means that if you get any kind of rewards for using your card at certain places, you may not get those rewards or only part of them, as your billing statement will show that it was a Google purchase.
5.) No. You do NOT have to have a data or internet connection to use GW.
So there you have it. And just point out the most frequently asked questions: no data/internet required, works on rooted devices regardless of the warnings you see, only shows up in the Play Store on your computer browser. There, those have been repeated twice, so you should not be asking anymore
That's awesome. I'd added a card online, deleted an old one, but the damned app on my N7 just showed a Citi card, and no option to update. I felt retarded... I'm glad this is finally set up. Thanks.
My N7 is rooted. I've installed the latest wallet and I've entered one of my credit cards. When I did that I got an email from google stating that my wallet was set up and ready to go. To test it I should open wallet and tap my card to authorize its use. It doesn't matter how much I tap, touch, or rub the card on the N7 it doesn't appear that it is reading my card.
Is it working properly? I'd kinda like to test it out before I actually take it in someplace and try to use it.
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My N7 is rooted. I've installed the latest wallet and I've entered one of my credit cards. When I did that I got an email from google stating that my wallet was set up and ready to go. To test it I should open wallet and tap my card to authorize its use. It doesn't matter how much I tap, touch, or rub the card on the N7 it doesn't appear that it is reading my card.
Is it working properly? I'd kinda like to test it out before I actually take it in someplace and try to use it.
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Is your card a paypass card? Never seen it ask to tap the card to the phone. Not sure why it would, frankly.
I was about to say the same thing. You can't tap just any ole card. Doesn't work that way. The card needs to have an RFID chip in it, or some sort of NFC chip. Someone correct me if i'm wrong.
Installed yesterday from the link that was posted and this is what I get.
Thoughts?
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I am not rooted and I tried it at a Walgreens, but it didn't do anything. Can someone explain in elementary steps how it actually works when using it at a store? I just figured I had to have a data connection and that is why it didn't work, but this guide says otherwise.
Thanks for your help!
First, download the PayPass locator to find which stores near you actually have a console that is compatible with the device. Some Walgreens DO NOT have the mastercard paypass system. They have some other kind of technology. I tried at a walgreens by my place and felt foolish when the girl just looked at me weird.
You can use this at ALL McDonald's. Go there and order something. Turn your device on. Make sure NFC is enabled in the settings. You don't need to have wallet open already, but it would speed up the process. If you don't have it open, but with the phone screen turned on, rest the back of the device to the paypass surface. They need to be physically touching. You may need to move the device around just a bit. You will hear a ringing noise, and then google wallet will be active. It will ask you to type in your PIN and the press the device to the surface to complete the transaction. Sometimes you have to tell the person at the cash register that you are paying with credit. Once you tap it a second time to the surface of the paypass thing, it will say transaction complete.
NOW, sometimes it doesn't work 100% flawlessly. SOMETIMES you have to tap the device to the pad over and over again. Or move it around on top of the pad until it goes through. And sometimes, even tho it goes through on the end of the cash register, the device still tells you that the transaction may not have gone through. If the person smiles at you and gives you your receipt, it went through just fine. But the device will ask you to tap the paypass pad again. Just take the receipt and wink at the person if they are cute because they have never seen it before and they are probably blown away by it.
Oh, and even though people say that you don't need a data connection to use it, I have always been connected via wifi to my phone or the wifi at the restaurant when I use it.
One more question, I am getting annoyed by the "you need flash blah blah blah", so I am going to root.
In the past I thought I saw articles saying something about resetting google wallet before you root or it messes it up, but when I go into Wallet to reset it - I don't see that option.
Is this something that is still required? If so, what are the steps?
I was under the impression that you don't need a wi-fi connection to complete a transaction at a PayPass terminal. Has anyone used it successfully knowing there was no wi-fi connection?
Heaterz16 said:
One more question, I am getting annoyed by the "you need flash blah blah blah", so I am going to root.
In the past I thought I saw articles saying something about resetting google wallet before you root or it messes it up, but when I go into Wallet to reset it - I don't see that option.
Is this something that is still required? If so, what are the steps?
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From Google wallet, go into the menu from the google wallet home screen. The three dots up in the right hand corner. Then settings. Then reset google wallet.
You do not need a wifi / data connection ! How many times does this need to be stated?!
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I was under the impression that you don't need a wi-fi connection to complete a transaction at a PayPass terminal. Has anyone used it successfully knowing there was no wi-fi connection?
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.....................really dude? Did you read the whole thing? I even said it twice. Let me quote myself:
5.) No. You do NOT have to have a data or internet connection to use GW.
So there you have it. And just to point out the most frequently asked questions: no data/internet required, works on rooted devices regardless of the warnings you see, only shows up in the Play Store on your computer browser. There, those have been repeated twice, so you should not be asking anymore
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See? I put it in there twice. I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just have little patience for people who don't read and ask questions that were already answered. Hope the bluntness gets the point across so this doesn't happen in the future, that's all.
adamhlj said:
From Google wallet, go into the menu from the google wallet home screen. The three dots up in the right hand corner. Then settings. Then reset google wallet.
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I can't believe I didn't see that until now, I tried that about 4 times using the menu button but it never had the settings option....before I realized I was within a card which didn't have that option. I had to hit the back button twice to get to the "homepage" of the app, then I saw the settings, reset option...
Thanks!
Thanks OP. Your method of updating the app worked flawlessly for me. Now I added another card. Can't wait to try this out.
Quick question: lets say I get a galaxy S3, it has Google wallet on it or I install it(I believe that device has nfc also, all I would have to do is sign in and data transfer KR copies to new device? Or will I have to set THST device up all over again ?
Here's an odd question:
Let's say you're at the end of your funds on your debit card, and you don't want to charge the whole amount on your (different)credit card. Is there a way to use Google Wallet to pay out the last of the debit card's funds, THEN cover the balance of the purchase with the credit card?
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~b.) IF IF IF IF IF and ONLY IF the first option does not work, you can use the hacked apk found here. Just follow the instructions. Now if you are outside of the US, there are instructions in that thread for getting GW to work outside of the US. If you have issues, post them there so the developer can work on it. It is his apk, so he needs to know of issues, not me.
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I'm running Team EOS Rom build 19.
Nothing else would work for me, so I did this method.
I have tried installing it by just tapping the apk and I have also put the apk in /system/apps and set permissions. No matter how I do it, I always get this.
Any thoughts?
I can verify that this works when rooted on the stock ROM AND WITHOUT INTERNET CONNECTION. When I have used it on my Nexus 7, I have had the app open as it will ask you to put in your PIN number on the device.
Few things to make sure you have done before scanning. Make sure you have a card selected before hand WHICH DOES REQUIRE INTERNET CONNECTION. I have tried to scan my Nexus 7 and Galaxy S III without a card selected (although I'm not sure why the card was deselected) and neither would work.
When you scan the device at the NFC point of sale, make sure you center the "U" in "Nexus" on the back of your device over the scanning area (this is according to the instruction manual on the device). You can test this for yourself if you have another NFC capable device, using Android Beam. You will find that the scanning range of the NFC is very specific on both devices.
Sometimes, it will take a little bit of time for the device to be scanned and for the transaction to be completed. You will hear a sound from your device indicating that the NFC has been scanned, after which the Google Wallet app will pop up prompting you to put in your PIN or that the transaction has been completed, showing you a receipt.
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.....................really dude? Did you read the whole thing? I even said it twice. Let me quote myself:
See? I put it in there twice. I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just have little patience for people who don't read and ask questions that were already answered. Hope the bluntness gets the point across so this doesn't happen in the future, that's all.
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I read the OP entirely and thought, hooray! In post 7 someone said his didn't work and questioned the data connection. Post 8 said he was successful and stated he had a wi-fi connection with his phone at the time. No one before my post had verified wi-fi or data was not needed except the OP. Trust, but verify. I just wanted one other person to say it worked.
Just curious if there was a way to reload the virtual card without having another credit/debit card added as an available card in GW? Is there a phone number or website where we could add funds, so the virtual card is the only card listed in GW?
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So yeah, assuming their efforts is successful and they manage to set up their wifi to deny access to rooted devices, is there anyway around this without unrooting?
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So yeah, assuming their efforts is successful and they manage to set up their wifi to deny access to rooted devices, is there anyway around this without unrooting?
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There used to be a module called Root Cloack(er) for Xposed frameworks that hides root, don`t know if there is a version for Marsmellow though. Its here on the XDA forums somewhere.
But how? I can't think of any way to detect a rooted/jailbroken phone from a Wifi connection, without you having to install or run some other piece of software/script that would give them that information.
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But how? I can't think of any way to detect a rooted/jailbroken phone from a Wifi connection, without you having to install or run some other piece of software/script that would give them that information.
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I'm not sure. I would not put it past my company to make us install such a script in order to access wifi.
Many places are doing this. Detecting root is simple. Even Snapchat and others are doing it. Heck they are even looking for xposed and won't work if detected.
You would be amazed at what info people can get from your device when it's connected to wifi
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Many places are doing this. Detecting root is simple. Even Snapchat and others are doing it. Heck they are even looking for xposed and won't work if detected.
You would be amazed at what info people can get from your device when it's connected to wifi
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a lot of info sure... But an app running on your phone detecting it, vs detecting that something is installed simply by connecting to their network? Your phone passes along a lot of info... but not installed binaries?
I could see them maybe having a black list, like if you're connecting the the exposed repositories your likely rooted... but if you are not using programs that require root access and communicate over the network, how are they doing this?
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a lot of info sure... But an app running on your phone detecting it, vs detecting that something is installed simply by connecting to their network? Your phone passes along a lot of info... but not installed binaries?
I could see them maybe having a black list, like if you're connecting the the exposed repositories your likely rooted... but if you are not using programs that require root access and communicate over the network, how are they doing this?
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A simple request for the info. Have you ever looked at a logcat and saw everything running. I could be gone for weeks and come home and tell you every device that has ever connected to my network the whole time I was gone and with the right things in place could even tell if they are rooted or jailbroken
I can see the same as the poster above me on our network, it is not hard at all. And if we had such a policy and you used a cloaker I would have you fired.
Their network, their rules. I really don't think you should do this.
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A simple request for the info. Have you ever looked at a logcat and saw everything running. I could be gone for weeks and come home and tell you every device that has ever connected to my network the whole time I was gone and with the right things in place could even tell if they are rooted or jailbroken
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Can you provide any links or further detail? Obviously by viewing system logs you can tell whats running.... but I have never seen any standard network function to request a connected device to send logs without permission? Google searching the topic provides little info as its saturated with info on how to root, and using root for ad blocking.
Even a brief overview of the setup you would use to check? What are "the right things" and what "place" would the need to be in?
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Can you provide any links or further detail? Obviously by viewing system logs you can tell whats running.... but I have never seen any standard network function to request a connected device to send logs without permission? Google searching the topic provides little info as its saturated with info on how to root, and using root for ad blocking.
Even a brief overview of the setup you would use to check? What are "the right things" and what "place" would the need to be in?
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I wont get into it too deeply as I have my guys that watch this site as well and If they go around my security setup like with exchange pin request or using some devices on my network I will fire them on the spot. Lets just say the router logs everything that is done on the network. Connect your device to your wifi and then watch a logcat. You should be able to see what you are looking for.
Understand that unless approved by me no device can connect to my network. With the right router you can see everything about a device. you wont find much info on google as things like this are kept close to the chest with the IT crowd
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I wont get into it too deeply as I have my guys that watch this site as well and If they go around my security setup like with exchange pin request or using some devices on my network I will fire them on the spot. Lets just say the router logs everything that is done on the network. Connect your device to your wifi and then watch a logcat. You should be able to see what you are looking for.
Understand that unless approved by me no device can connect to my network. With the right router you can see everything about a device. you wont find much info on google as things like this are kept close to the chest with the IT crowd
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No one here is trying to connect to your network. It's XDA and people are curious. I agree that it's silly to circumvent measures used by the company you work for (assuming you want to keep working there), but I also find it strange that you connect to a network and have that router, etc tell if your phone has a specific binary and apk. Is that what you are claiming happens?
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There used to be a module called Root Cloack(er) for Xposed frameworks that hides root, don`t know if there is a version for Marsmellow though. Its here on the XDA forums somewhere.
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This is not possible to limit an android version via network traffic, the best they could do is catch you updating cyanogenmod and ban your mac by guessing that your rooted, but its so much work, its a bunch of empty threats.
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No one here is trying to connect to your network. It's XDA and people are curious. I agree that it's silly to circumvent measures used by the company you work for (assuming you want to keep working there), but I also find it strange that you connect to a network and have that router, etc tell if your phone has a specific binary and apk. Is that what you are claiming happens?
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It can yes. And you are right this is XDA but you would be amazed at what info is not shared here or anywhere except between IT managers or other devs.
Once connected to a network it is not that hard to get everything from a device. This is why all the warnings about connecting to open networks. While Open networks are more of a risk it goes to show that anything can be done.
This has been a practice for a very long time even back to the WM days when roms encluded time bombs that would make the rom not work after a set time and date.
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It can yes. And you are right this is XDA but you would be amazed at what info is not shared here or anywhere except between IT managers or other devs.
Once connected to a network it is not that hard to get everything from a device. This is why all the warnings about connecting to open networks. While Open networks are more of a risk it goes to show that anything can be done.
This has been a practice for a very long time even back to the WM days when roms encluded time bombs that would make the rom not work after a set time and date.
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It's all smoke and mirrors to me until someone explains how it's possible to read files on a device by a user just connecting to a network and providing no further interaction. Sure you can get the device MAC, name, etc, but that's not how I read your statements. As mentioned in the post above yours, you can guess on network traffic, etc, but I really doubt anyone can "know everything".
Loved the HTC Diamond and TP2 [emoji1]
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It's all smoke and mirrors to me until someone explains how it's possible to read files on a device by a user just connecting to a network and providing no further interaction. Sure you can get the device MAC, name, etc, but that's not how I read your statements. As mentioned in the post above yours, you can guess on network traffic, etc, but I really doubt anyone can "know everything".
Loved the HTC Diamond and TP2 [emoji1]
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Its not guessing network traffic. You can tell exactly what sites they go to. You can tell if they are using a mobile or desktop browser. (same way the carriers do it to prevent teethering)
All it takes is being connected to a network to be infected with a virus. Just how do you think that happens?
No one is gonna explain it. Just like we dont allow talks about network penetration. There are just something that are best not out in public view.
Here is an older example of how they detected jailbroken iphones on school networks.
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Its not guessing network traffic. You can tell exactly what sites they go to. You can tell if they are using a mobile or desktop browser. (same way the carriers do it to prevent teethering)
All it takes is being connected to a network to be infected with a virus. Just how do you think that happens?
No one is gonna explain it. Just like we dont allow talks about network penetration. There are just something that are best not out in public view.
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I am specifically referring to detecting that a binary and an apk exist on a device SOLELY based on establishing a network connection (not viruses, not websites visited...user does nothing and no new code/software runs on the device). That does not seem probable to me.
It may just be semantics, but that's how I interpreted your original statement.
Of course network admins can see what sites users visit, what browser they use, etc and there is no guessing - only logs [emoji3]. I was using guessing in different sense (ie, you see something "suspicious" and draw conclusions).
Wow.... if i ever get fired after i found out they are 'reading' files on my device... this will be case for a courtn no doubt! I'm sure (at least where i live) the one that fires you based on such actions will have a big problem!
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I am specifically referring to detecting that a binary and an apk exist on a device SOLELY based on establishing a network connection (not viruses, not websites visited...user does nothing and no new code/software runs on the device). That does not seem probable to me.
It may just be semantics, but that's how I interpreted your original statement.
Of course network admins can see what sites users visit, what browser they use, etc and there is no guessing - only logs [emoji3]. I was using guessing in different sense (ie, you see something "suspicious" and draw conclusions).
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If you read the link they showed how to detect cydia which showed them it was jailbroken. The same thing can be done on android.
Droidphilev said:
Wow.... if i ever get fired after i found out they are 'reading' files on my device... this will be case for a courtn no doubt! I'm sure (at least where i live) the one that fires you based on such actions will have a big problem!
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You would lose. When you agree to use their network you agree to all their rules. This is the main reason for things like Knox. As more and more place move to a "right to work" setup where they dont need a reason to fire you at all. I would be careful about what rules one does break. Gone are the days where we could get away with things like this.
You know this got me thinking. Maybe I will play around with my network and see what I can find out. I have to block root and xposed users anyway so this would be a great challenge. Might be awhile as I revert all my PC back to windows 7.
From an IT perspective, a rooted device provides little to no security. That's why most mobile device management (MDM) products include a feature that let IT block rooted devices from connecting to the secure network or accessing corporate assets. But these products must be able to detect rooted devices before they can block them, and there are ways users can get around those detection mechanisms. Organizations that rely on MDM alone to detect rooted devices should be aware of these limitations.
http://searchmobilecomputing.techta...evice-risks-include-network-access-data-theft
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If you read the link they showed how to detect cydia which showed them it was jailbroken. The same thing can be done on Android.
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I didn't see a link in Tapatalk or Chrome mobile. As for me, I see no reason why I'd ever want to connect my personal smartphone to my work network. Thanks for the discussion.
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You made me VERY curious! I will try to call HR department of the company i work for today to ask how this works for us
If i get fired because of this phonecall i will try to get you fired for making me curious