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[Q] App for sending and receiving SMS from PC over 3G ??

I have seen few apps that are capable of doing this over Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and USB. But I am more interested in something that can do it over 3G. At work my desktop PC is not on a wireless network; there is Wi-Fi but on a spate subnet with no easy access to the main network. I do have Bluetooth / USB on my main desktop but I work from different PCs therefore its not very convenient for me to pair/connect it each time I go to a different PC. And I don’t use Wi-Fi at home either.
Then there are other benifits to using 3G like I can still access the phone even if I forget it somewhere (i.e at home in the car etc). The new HTC Sense services for HTC Desire HD will have remote access to SMS, call and location information , which is exactly what I'm after. But for now SMS alone is enough.
I came across one App called SMS2PC which can connect to a computer over 3G. But from what I gathered, with that the phone connects to the PC and pushes notifications, not the other way around. This is not going to work for me because at work I am behind a corporate firewall, so my phone cannot access the desktop.
Any other solutions ??
EDIT : i know SMS backup can backup text messages to google, but I can't reply from there. So that wont help much. And I'm not in US, therefore I dont have access to Google Voice service, so replying through that is not going to work either.

Is Google Voice avilable to you (specifically, you will need a Google Voice phone number)? If so, that will be my recommendation. In addition to free SMS and visual voice mail, you can use your Google Voice anywhere that you have access to a web browser. It doesn't have to be your phone.

foxbat121 said:
Is Google Voice avilable to you (specifically, you will need a Google Voice phone number)? If so, that will be my recommendation. In addition to free SMS and visual voice mail, you can use your Google Voice anywhere that you have access to a web browser. It doesn't have to be your phone.
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No google voice is not available ( as mentioned in my last line , coz I knew some one would suggest that).
I wonder why no one has made such an app so far.
Maybe I'll have to write my own.. haven't done any android programing yet, guess its about the time.. waiting for a break from work to start playing around with it a bit...

PhoenixFx said:
I have seen few apps that are capable of doing this over Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and USB. But I am more interested in something that can do it over 3G. At work my desktop PC is not on a wireless network; there is Wi-Fi but on a spate subnet with no easy access to the main network. I do have Bluetooth / USB on my main desktop but I work from different PCs therefore its not very convenient for me to pair/connect it each time I go to a different PC. And I don’t use Wi-Fi at home either.
Then there are other benifits to using 3G like I can still access the phone even if I forget it somewhere (i.e at home in the car etc). The new HTC Sense services for HTC Desire HD will have remote access to SMS, call and location information , which is exactly what I'm after. But for now SMS alone is enough.
I came across one App called SMS2PC which can connect to a computer over 3G. But from what I gathered, with that the phone connects to the PC and pushes notifications, not the other way around. This is not going to work for me because at work I am behind a corporate firewall, so my phone cannot access the desktop.
Any other solutions ??
EDIT : i know SMS backup can backup text messages to google, but I can't reply from there. So that wont help much. And I'm not in US, therefore I dont have access to Google Voice service, so replying through that is not going to work either.
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I use smstools. It is in every major repo. However - from your non-technical wording - I assume that you use the gamerz OS (Windos). Worry not, you can easily compile the program yourself, or google for binaries.

HelloH said:
I use smstools. It is in every major repo. However - from your non-technical wording - I assume that you use the gamerz OS (Windos). Worry not, you can easily compile the program yourself, or google for binaries.
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Yes, I use Windows mostly . Thanks for that link, but I don't think thats quite what I want either. That seems to use the phone as a modem to send and receive SMSs; which means I'll have to connect the phone to a PC locally (i.e USB, IR, BT etc..).
I'm looking for a solution that allows me to connect to the phone remotely over the internet (phone online on 3G) to access and send messages. A setup where there is a PC client which polls the phone periodically for new messages and a server running on the phone allowing the PC client to gain access to its messaging service. So I don't have to connect/disconnect every time when changing PCs, it will also allow me to connect even when the phone is not with me (left behind at home / car ).

Ah, I got it now!
Well, of course you could compile SMSTOOLS for your phone
Or take a look at RemoteSMS or similar apps!
Also possible to remote control your handset via vnc-server. That one has far more possibilities than remote SMS-ing...

HelloH said:
Ah, I got it now!
Well, of course you could compile SMSTOOLS for your phone
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I’m coming from Windows development side, so pardon me for my ignorance on Linux dev. But from the little I know, you can't compile Unix/C code to Android, am I wrong ? At least not in a straightforward manner... You can only develop apps using their customized Java (Dalvic) , right
Even if its possible, I think developing an app from ground up is far more easier than trying to integrate smstools in to android. Besides, that doesn't solve my problem at all, because accessing the phone from the PC is the issue, and I don't see how running smstools on the phone is going to solve that.
HelloH said:
Or take a look at RemoteSMS or similar apps!
Also possible to remote control your handset via vnc-server. That one has far more possibilities than remote SMS-ing...
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RemoteSMS only works over Wi-Fi and BT, no 3G support .
I guess remote desktop is one solution, but I prefer a much simpler app. Besides VNC will not send me any notifications, I have to manually check. ..
Looks like I'll have to write my own app for this . Havent done any android development yet, looks like this is going to be my first project..

Wifi Keyboard works on 3g (yes dumb but )
3G might be blocked by some carriers.
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So it's means it can be used over 3G

PhoenixFx said:
IAnd I'm not in US, therefore I dont have access to Google Voice service, so replying through that is not going to work either.
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You don't need to be in the US to get a Google Voice account or use it for SMS. I am in Canada and use it for SMS all the time.
See this link. Note that despite the title this will work for any country.
http://www.wifitalk.ca/iphone/howto-google-voice-in-canada/

brunes said:
You don't need to be in the US to get a Google Voice account or use it for SMS. I am in Canada and use it for SMS all the time.
See this link. Note that despite the title this will work for any country.
http://www.wifitalk.ca/iphone/howto-google-voice-in-canada/
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Thanks, I'll give it a try. Are SMSs free for international numbers as well ?
EDIT : I don't want to login through some unknown proxy server and give out my credentials. Besides, it is not a permanent solution. another dead end

Waiting for new ideas

exadeci said:
Wifi Keyboard works on 3g (yes dumb but )
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PhoenixFx said:
Waiting for new ideas
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Hum ..... Have you tried it ?

PhoenixFx said:
I’m coming from Windows development side, so pardon me for my ignorance on Linux dev. But from the little I know, you can't compile Unix/C code to Android, am I wrong ? At least not in a straightforward manner... You can only develop apps using their customized Java (Dalvic) , right
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Linux is a kernel, and Android is a Linux kernel based operating system. You can compile anything (that compiles for GNU/Linux for the given architecture) for Android/Linux as well. It will be native code however (as opposed to DALVIK, which is VM code). You have the option to cross-compile on your PC, or to compile code right on your phone. It is a command line affair... not some nice one-click task.
BTW I did not see in their own advert, that RemoteSMS would be limited to wifi... you sure? (Would be pretty weird move from them, since communicating over wifi and 3G is not really different from the programmer's point of view)

Found this today , posted on XDA : talkmyphone.
Exacly what I was looking for .

YAY!
Thank you! I have been looking for something like this because I am also behind a corporate firewall at work.

App Requires Phone Number work around

I tried to install the verizon fios dvr manager/remote control - the application however requires a cell phone number - does any one know a work around to create a "fake number" on the nook to use these apps?
Thank you

xtrezpasor said:
I tried to install the verizon fios dvr manager/remote control - the application however requires a cell phone number - does any one know a work around to create a "fake number" on the nook to use these apps?
Thank you
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I would also like to get something like this working for Google Voice so that I can use the messaging service.
Any and all help is appreciated.

I signed into my google account and google voice "just worked". Of course i can't make any calls but i can use it to send texts and receive texts sent to my gv number.
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I think if you could lift the data/configuration from your existing phone then you could copy that to the Nook and be working. I could not find where the data was stored though for the app.

GarJones27 said:
I would also like to get something like this working for Google Voice so that I can use the messaging service.
Any and all help is appreciated.
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I just entered my iPhone's number (which is already registered to Google Voice and has the Google Voice app on it) and I can use it for texting just fine.

KitF said:
I just entered my iPhone's number (which is already registered to Google Voice and has the Google Voice app on it) and I can use it for texting just fine.
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Can you give a short tutorial on how to get this set up? I too (and im sure others) would like to be able to text from the Nook.
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Setup gvoice on a phone first (you should able to find a tutorial by searching google). Then use the same # when setting up on the nook.

seeddemon said:
Setup gvoice on a phone first (you should able to find a tutorial by searching google). Then use the same # when setting up on the nook.
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Edit: Okay, set up Google voice and I'm able to send texts using that number however the apps that require a phone number do not see it. Not a huge deal, but there might be more apps out there that require a phone number to work.
I simply set up Google voice via the Google.com/voice website. And then got a Google number to use for texts. In the voice app you can compose a message and my Google contacts are available.
Sent from my Nook Color.

This isnt what what I was looking for - I was looking for a way to use verizon Fios manager...

hijacked
I agree this thread was hijacked. We want a workaround for the Android verizon manager on the kindle fire or nook color where the app was meant for a mobile phone. Would there be a way to give a rooted device a phone number?

3EyedPhish said:
I agree this thread was hijacked. We want a workaround for the Android verizon manager on the kindle fire or nook color where the app was meant for a mobile phone. Would there be a way to give a rooted device a phone number?
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Depending on the ROM your running, you may be able to enter a phone number in the settings.... otherwise you may be able to edit TelephonyManager.smali and find the section to pull the phone number and hard code a phone number in the same way we do IMEI edits.

DizzyDen said:
Depending on the ROM your running, you may be able to enter a phone number in the settings.... otherwise you may be able to edit TelephonyManager.smali and find the section to pull the phone number and hard code a phone number in the same way we do IMEI edits.
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I got the FIOS app to run on my Nook by doing the reverse of this. I found the few places in the app where the phone number was looked up and replaced those by calls to get an apps prefs setting "Display Name" which is entered during set up but unused by the app. So I put in the phone number under Display Name during set up.
This was done using apktool to patch the app but I am reluctant to post the modified version as this is explicitly ruled out by license agreement.
I did consider going the TelephonyManager route but as I am using CM9 which is still changing quite a bit then that becomes a moving target. If CM9 puts explicit coded support in for entering a number like CM7 did then that would be the best option. I did find, however, when using the CM7 option that it had a tendency to lose the entered number during reboots.

You can set a phone number, IMEI, location and many other things for each individual app with PDroid without modifying any code on those apps.
All you need is to enable the PDroid framework. There are packages in Botbrew for Nook or you can use the auto-patcher if you have Linux.
The above links are for CM9. If you have cm7 there are auto-patchers for Linux and windows, which can be found at the PDroid thread.

mateorod said:
You can set a phone number, IMEI, location and many other things for each individual app with PDroid without modifying any code on those apps.
All you need is to enable the PDroid framework. There are packages in Botbrew for Nook or you can use the auto-patcher if you have Linux.
The above links are for CM9. If you have cm7 there are auto-patchers for Linux and windows, which can be found at the PDroid thread.
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That looks like a better more general method. In checking this out I also notice that Verizon did do an update a couple of weeks ago where the FIOS remote app claims it has a new pairing method which works with non-phone tablets so maybe this isn't needed any more for this particular app. I'll try that out.

It is a pretty neat program, with a ton of functions and uses that go pretty unnoticed.
One note, though: due to an update in the CM repo, our auto-patcher ( and even the patches I used to make the auto-patcher) broke.
I have updated everything for CM9, but we are waiting on an aokp build before releasing another version of the auto-patcher.
But the Botbrew packages are up to date and can be used immediately for 5/08 and the patcher will be updated soon.
If you are running an older build, make sure the package you use matches the build date. And the auto-patcher still works to builds from 5/06 and earlier.

bobtidey said:
In checking this out I also notice that Verizon did do an update a couple of weeks ago where the FIOS remote app claims it has a new pairing method which works with non-phone tablets so maybe this isn't needed any more for this particular app. I'll try that out.
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I tried out the new version of the Verizon app and it now does allow use of a 4 digit PIN as opposed to a phone number for setting up the remote control pairing. It finds the set top box OK but then immediately crashes on the Nook Color CM9.
I'm going to do a bit more investigation and maybe try it from a Touchpad to see if that behaves the same way.

[Q] 2.3.3 SIP Support

Hi All,
I found no hint about SIP support in Gingerbread on SGS (I'm running 2.3.3). Are you also lacking the SIP feature? I read on Android website that SIP may be enabled/disabled according to provider choice (and it seems Samsung went on the safe side, and disabled it).
Do you think any custom kernel/csc/other-stuff might be used to enable it?
Thanks for the support!

Which sip/voip account do you have?
There are tons of apps that you can install and use to make your Voip calls within Android
I am testing tons of them: CSipSimple is doing good on JVK.Ginger for instance
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I have an iptel.org account, with custom domain name.
I would have loved to see native SIP support, as I expect it would have seamelessly integrated with the address book and the UI. But I'll give thid-party SIP clients a try, hopefully they'll suite my needs.
Is SIP battery draining in your experience?

alfredio said:
Hi All,
I found no hint about SIP support in Gingerbread on SGS (I'm running 2.3.3). Are you also lacking the SIP feature? I read on Android website that SIP may be enabled/disabled according to provider choice (and it seems Samsung went on the safe side, and disabled it).
Do you think any custom kernel/csc/other-stuff might be used to enable it?
Thanks for the support!
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You can take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016583

alfredio said:
I have an iptel.org account, with custom domain name.
I would have loved to see native SIP support, as I expect it would have seamelessly integrated with the address book and the UI. But I'll give thid-party SIP clients a try, hopefully they'll suite my needs.
Is SIP battery draining in your experience?
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Well I use Voip/Sip to place my almost free calls wherever I am in the world and in the neighbourhood of a hotspot.
I have 2 accounts with 2 Betamax/Finarea products: Justvoip and VoipDiscount,
With Sipdroid app and CSipSimple app (freem from Market) you get good integration with stock adress book and UI....
Dont know Iptel stuff

[APP] myMedia WP7

Hi all,
myMedia WP7 has recently been released on the marketplace. myMedia WP7 is a TVersity client that allows you to stream music and video (and view pictures) from your TVersity server to your WP7 device.
The server handles all the transcoding (if required), so all videos formats are playable on your phone. For Tversity to properly identify your WP7 device you need to update the included profiles file. Instructions and the profile is available from here http://www.gordonhome.info/?p=198
myMedia WP7 has a fully functional trial mode (ad-supported) or is $1.99 US for the non-ad version.
You can get is here (Zune link) http://social.zune.net/redirect?type=phoneApp&id=27cacd23-1e94-e011-986b-78e7d1fa76f8
A video of it in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2OB_Om4BWc

Please post app recommendations in WP7 General.
~~Tito~~

Sounds cool. When I have a bit of time to setup Tversity, I think I will give this a go!

I already had TVersity and DynDNS installed (for separate reasons) so I set up myMedia and it works flawlessly both over my home network and from the external address.

Very nice, I can confirm the trial is fully functional & works flawlessly once you have TVersity & DynDNS (Needed if you don't have a static External IP, which most ISP's don't use) setup.

Could you explain setup using dns a little more? Also, should you not need to use a dns ip if you're just trying to use tversity with mymedia wp7 on your home network (connected through wifi)? Thanks.
Ok, got it working on home network. Now just trying to get it set up with port forwarding and using dns server.

kwill said:
Could you explain setup using dns a little more? Also, should you not need to use a dns ip if you're just trying to use tversity with mymedia wp7 on your home network (connected through wifi)? Thanks.
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Yes, you don't need to use a DNS service on your home network (or if your ISP provides a static IP address). You just put in the IP address of your tversity server.
kwill said:
Ok, got it working on home network. Now just trying to get it set up with port forwarding and using dns server.
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Great, let me know if you need any assistance setting up the DNS/external access portion.

Hi,
I have everything set up including the profiles file but am unable to find windows phone 7 in the dropdown list in settings - media playback device within tversity. this seems to result in every video file being unsupported when trying to stream them from my device. ány idea what i can try to resolve this please?

pencilcase said:
Hi,
I have everything set up including the profiles file but am unable to find windows phone 7 in the dropdown list in settings - media playback device within tversity. this seems to result in every video file being unsupported when trying to stream them from my device. ány idea what i can try to resolve this please?
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It doesn't appear in the drop down settings (that's not what the profile does), it's automatically detected based on browser strings. The Mango Beta has thrown a spanner in the works by changing the browser string so WP7 is no longer automatically detected.
I've submitted an updated version to the marketplace that lets you force tversity to use a specific profile. By choosing this option and putting in the profile GUID (it defaults to the GUID of the WP7 profile I provide), you can force tversity to use whatever profile you want regardless of the auto detection.

Hi,
unfortunately this update did not resolve the issue.
It seems to recognize it as a Windows Phone 7 now, but Tversity is telling me: Error - Could not strart transcoding for file://.................avi
nevermind that, fixed, all working ! thanks !!!!!!!!!!

I got everything running but when I try to play a movie it gives an error... ''Sorry, can't play this file''... Or something like that...
Any ideas...?

I'd like a new icon for this app.
Sent from my Samsung Omnia 7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

BellPego said:
I got everything running but when I try to play a movie it gives an error... ''Sorry, can't play this file''... Or something like that...
Any ideas...?
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It's not transcoding the file
1. Did you install the profile?
2. If so, is the device being identified as a WP7 device?
3. If you're using Mango, turn the force profile detection on in the settings page.

Peew971 said:
I'd like a new icon for this app.
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I'd like a billion dollars. I take it you're a designer and are offering to design one...

I'm not, I'm a consumer offering feedback. Isn't it why you post here, for feedback? I send feedback to plenty of devs and never had an answer like yours, I'm really unimpressed.
Sent from my Samsung Omnia 7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

dgaust said:
It's not transcoding the file
1. Did you install the profile?
2. If so, is the device being identified as a WP7 device?
3. If you're using Mango, turn the force profile detection on in the settings page.
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I did that and it was a bit laggy...
Then and played aroun and found the best settings in my case...
Media Playback Device: WMV9 Video Device.
Leave the IP address blank
I have turned off HTTP Proxy.
On the Transcoder Tab
When To Transcode: Always (Important)
Mine is set to Decrease Bitrate if its too high for my network
And ticked Use DirectShow for Windows Media Encoding and choose Windows Media Video 9 in the drop down menu...
Now everything works fine in Mango...

Peew971 said:
I'm not, I'm a consumer offering feedback. Isn't it why you post here, for feedback? I send feedback to plenty of devs and never had an answer like yours, I'm really unimpressed.
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If that's the type of 'constructive' feedback you offer to developers, then I'm sure your feedback is ignored.
'I'd like a new icon for this app' is not constructive and provides no insight into what you feel is wrong with the current icon, or what could be done to improve it. Not only that, the tone of the post is arrogant and rude.
Most developers would ignore comments like those. Fortunately I don't make my living off this type of stuff so I can say what I want, how I want. In general, I'm courteous and will do everything to help out a user and work through any issues they have. On occasion, I'll talk to people in the same manner they chose to address me.
For anyone who wants to suggest genuine features or has requests for changes, I'm happy to listen. In fact, I've made a number of additions and changes based on user feedback.
I've also spent significant time assisting users setup tversity so they get the best experience using the app.
Peew971, in order to avoid feeling disappointed in future, I'd reconsider how you leave 'feedback'.

BellPego said:
I did that and it was a bit laggy...
Then and played aroun and found the best settings in my case...
Media Playback Device: WMV9 Video Device.
Leave the IP address blank
I have turned off HTTP Proxy.
On the Transcoder Tab
When To Transcode: Always (Important)
Mine is set to Decrease Bitrate if its too high for my network
And ticked Use DirectShow for Windows Media Encoding and choose Windows Media Video 9 in the drop down menu...
Now everything works fine in Mango...
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BellPego,
Glad you got it streaming for you. Just a note though, that if you use those settings and have other devices it'll also affect playback on those devices.
Personally, my settings are
Mediaplayback Device
Automatic
Transcoder
Only when needed
decrease bitrate
Windows Media Encoder
Tick use directshow
Windows Media Video 9
Optimization
Quality
Compression
Average
When you insert the WP7 profile into the TVersity profiles.xml file (this will automatically be included in the next build of TVersity), and in Mango turn on the force profile detection, it will detect that the device is a Windows Phone 7 and transcode accordingly.

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Peew971, in order to avoid feeling disappointed in future, I'd reconsider how you leave 'feedback'.
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Wow, I said "I'd like a new icon for this app", not one more word. What is it I should reconsider, was I disrespectful to you or your work? Alright I just typed a quick sentence from my phone and didn't elaborate but I didn't deserve that sarcastic answer of yours.
I've been praising your app to friends and users here and elsewhere and that's how you address me because I said "I'd like a new icon for this app"?! This takes me back to those bad times with Dinik on the HD2 forums, talented guy but I couldn't force myself to support his work anymore after some odd posts of his.
Just... wow.

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I'd like a billion dollars. I take it you're a designer and are offering to design one...
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Icons attached;

[Q] SIP/VOIP

It's supprising how few people use sip at least those who own Razri. I found it very useful and money saving, especially when travelling.Unfortunatelly Razri uses proprietary phone.apk as a part of Motoblur and Motorola stripped off the entire Internet calling part from the application. It was the case in previous ICS and it remains in JB. Other manufacturers which opt for the similar solution use predictive way to remove android.software.sip.xml from the system and change sip value to false in framework-res.apk. But not Motorola. It obviously used more sophisticated approach. Both above mentioned files remains intact as far as the sip is concerned.
There is an application on the Google Play named Sipswitch which enable widget to enter voip credentials. In previous ICS you couldn't activate the connection. Suprisingly with JB the system accepts the credentials and communicates with the VOIP provider. And the SIP app appears as an extension of the Motorola Phone.apk. But unfortunatelly the SIP is not triggered though it is enabled. There is still the missing link remains. Is the failure result of the fact that Sipswitch is not the system application?
I'm aware that there are many SIP applications on the market. I tried most of them but with Razri they have voice issues. I have best experience with native Voip from previous phones. Does someone else plays with SIP or has otherwise useful advice how to proceed?

piskr said:
It's supprising how few people use sip at least those who own Razri. I found it very useful and money saving, especially when travelling.Unfortunatelly Razri uses proprietary phone.apk as a part of Motoblur and Motorola stripped off the entire Internet calling part from the application. It was the case in previous ICS and it remains in JB. Other manufacturers which opt for the similar solution use predictive way to remove android.software.sip.xml from the system and change sip value to false in framework-res.apk. But not Motorola. It obviously used more sophisticated approach. Both above mentioned files remains intact as far as the sip is concerned.
There is an application on the Google Play named Sipswitch which enable widget to enter voip credentials. In previous ICS you couldn't activate the connection. Suprisingly with JB the system accepts the credentials and communicates with the VOIP provider. And the SIP app appears as an extension of the Motorola Phone.apk. But unfortunatelly the SIP is not triggered though it is enabled. There is still the missing link remains. Is the failure result of the fact that Sipswitch is not the system application?
I'm aware that there are many SIP applications on the market. I tried most of them but with Razri they have voice issues. I have best experience with native Voip from previous phones. Does someone else plays with SIP or has otherwise useful advice how to proceed?
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Nobody engaged with the SIP? OK, since I'm not a programmer I'm kindly asking developers to take a close look to the attached applications. The first is Motorola's Blur Phone.apk, the second is original ICS Phone.apk. My question is: supposed I root the phone, if I delete Blur Phone.apk and install the original one (which has SIP option included) into the system, do I solve the problem or this is not the appropriate method? Perhaps because of diferrent apk frames or something else? Or must I replace the appropriate (original) Contact.apk as well? Thanks.

Aw: [q] sip/voip
Hi, i have the same problem. I'd like to use my VoIP number with the standard phone app.
I hope that someone can help with this.
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me too!
Hi,
I have same problem (ThL W8 phone JB4.1.2 with mt6589 cpu) great phone, but SIP capability has been crippled somehow. Its in the framework-res.apk and the other setup files are there, it seems to be in the code for phone.apk, but there is nothing visible in the menu's and the SIP tester app reports no sip or voip capability. I'd love to know what has been done and how to undo it. It seems somebody has spent quite a lot of time and effort hiding this capability and the only reason I can see is bowing to pressure from the 'airtime sellers'.
I hope someone will point us in the right direction and soon.

gmincca said:
Hi,
I have same problem (ThL W8 phone JB4.1.2 with mt6589 cpu) great phone, but SIP capability has been crippled somehow. Its in the framework-res.apk and the other setup files are there, it seems to be in the code for phone.apk, but there is nothing visible in the menu's and the SIP tester app reports no sip or voip capability. I'd love to know what has been done and how to undo it. It seems somebody has spent quite a lot of time and effort hiding this capability and the only reason I can see is bowing to pressure from the 'airtime sellers'.
I hope someone will point us in the right direction and soon.
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Well, you missed the forum, but regarding your problem it is not quite the same as here. If the SIP tester doesn't recognize the necessary conditions for SIP, you can try this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592890
Motorola as the most qualified phone company uses more sophisticated and dirty methods to screw its customers: the SIP tester does detect sip capability and all necessary files and settings are enabled. But the SIP part is simply stripped off from the core phone.apk.
If you don't dare to try the suggested method you could always use Keyyo voip which has been updated recently and works flawlessly: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5rZXl5b21vYmlsZS5hbmRyb2lkLnZvaXAiXQ..

piskr said:
Well, you missed the forum, but regarding your problem it is not quite the same as here. If the SIP tester doesn't recognize the necessary conditions for SIP, you can try this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592890
Motorola as the most qualified phone company uses more sophisticated and dirty methods to screw its customers: the SIP tester does detect sip capability and all necessary files and settings are enabled. But the SIP part is simply stripped off from the core phone.apk.
If you don't dare to try the suggested method you could always use Keyyo voip which has been updated recently and works flawlessly: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5rZXl5b21vYmlsZS5hbmRyb2lkLnZvaXAiXQ..
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Hi,
Thanks, but the whole point of my posting is because all of the sip information in post 1592890 is already in place, everything looks as though SIP should work, but SIP tester doesn't recognise sip or voip capability and there is nothing in the menus. As for sip/voip apps yes there are countless of them good and bad, but this capability is built into Android and I want to be able to use it as I did on my old 2.3.6 phone. I'm just completely lost as to how to get it enabled.
So thanks, but really not much help so far.

gmincca said:
Hi,
Thanks, but the whole point of my posting is because all of the sip information in post 1592890 is already in place, everything looks as though SIP should work, but SIP tester doesn't recognise sip or voip capability and there is nothing in the menus. As for sip/voip apps yes there are countless of them good and bad, but this capability is built into Android and I want to be able to use it as I did on my old 2.3.6 phone. I'm just completely lost as to how to get it enabled.
So thanks, but really not much help so far.
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If you have both files set correct (SIP enabled in framework-res.apk and xml) than you have virtually the same problem as it is with RazrI. The core phone.apk is rebuild in the manner that the sip part is stripped off. I prefer native SIP too, regarding my previous experience is the best, but I'm afraid that the only solution in our case is to get AOSP Phone.apk (or similar with SIP as CM) and reconstruct the framework-res.apk accordingly. I'm not the programmer, I'm not sure if it could be done with this method or the whole system is to be replaced with AOSP or CM since Phone.apk is a core application cross related with a lot of other stuff.
What you can try eventually is to deploy two apps: SipSwitch Widget and Zeynalov's Call Manager (Google Play). Sip Switch Widget enables inserting your voip providers credentials and Call Manager supposed to serve as sip trigger. For me the combination wasn't work and I doubt that it would in your case since in your case sip is even not recognised as existed. But it cause no harm to give them a try.

Just use this method, works for me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24710862&postcount=2