changing the chipset???????? - XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

is there possibility of changing qualcomm chipset to MSM7227A or MSM7227 800Mhz for our x8???????

mayurcools said:
is there possibility of changing qualcomm chipset to MSM7227A or MSM7227 800Mhz for our x8???????
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Do you really think it is possible ??
I mean seriously..

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No, you can't
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try, but i'm not sure............tell us the results if you did it

i think we can
because in the 800MHz chipset the only difference is cpu frequency thats it

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Totally impossible for the MSM7227A.. the MSM7227 at 800MHz should work though, the only difference from ours is that it is stable at 800MHz.
The hard part is to get one and replace it without damaging the phone
I'm sure it's also possible to increase the RAM with a identical chip but with more space and reprogram the phone to address it properly.

Nikkopt said:
Totally impossible for the MSM7227A.. the MSM7227 at 800MHz should work though, the only difference from ours is that it is stable at 800MHz.
The hard part is to get one and replace it without damaging the phone
I'm sure it's also possible to increase the RAM with a identical chip but with more space and reprogram the phone to address it properly.
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The MSM7227 at 800mhz is actually MSM7227T. The recommended frequency for our chipset is 600Mhz. Lol it's not possible to change the chipset for to either of them, the skill needed to do that would kill you.
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NIMBAH said:
Lol it's not possible to change the chipset for to either of them, the skill needed to do that would kill you.
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You know what? You are right, i have been seeing in the news that thousands of people die every week because they learned how to rework BGA chips.. The knowledge needed is so insane that the brain explodes.
What the hell are you talking about dude? Reworking/ flowing / balling is simple when you have the right equipment.. The hard part is its price. Or were you thinking of doing it with a soldering iron?
About the chipsets, they are the same thing.. the turbo version is stable at 800MHz, the normal is not.. It's the same as changing your computer cpu from a 2.5GHz to a 2.7Ghz.. the pins are the same, everything is the same, the 2.7 just draws more power.
I am not 100% sure it would work because there are lots of variables (software and power wise), but at least 90%
I'm not screaming IMPOSSIBLE or mocking the dude like everyone else because it can actually work.. it's just very impractical, it would be cheaper buying a new phone.

I already have hot air soldering station and other tools but how can I get a chipset moreover where can I get the datasheet of the chipset I searched alot but havnt found any
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Raising the bar on the captivate?

I read an article that the g2 was overclocked to 1.9, I know we hit 1.6, but can we do better? The g2 has a 800 mhz processor stock, so why can't we get a 2.1 ghz overclock?
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/11/15/t-mobile-g2-overclock-1-9ghz/
Hm
Because sometimes there are hardware limitations. I know with computers, the motherboard can and almost always will be a factor in the max limit of overclocking. By BUS methods of overclocking, you're not just overclocking your processor, but your motherboard (and in turn everything it's connected to) as well.
Maybe there's a safety feature built in. Maybe that's the most anyone tried (to be on the safe side)
After all, I'm sure Samsung would LOVE to replace your phone under warranty by destroying it from burning the chip up from a failed overclock
That being said, I don't really need to overclock my phone to call people
-Shi
gothpunk4christ said:
Because sometimes there are hardware limitations. I know with computers, the motherboard can and almost always will be a factor in the max limit of overclocking. By BUS methods of overclocking, you're not just overclocking your processor, but your motherboard (and in turn everything it's connected to) as well.
Maybe there's a safety feature built in. Maybe that's the most anyone tried (to be on the safe side)
After all, I'm sure Samsung would LOVE to replace your phone under warranty by destroying it from burning the chip up from a failed overclock
That being said, I don't really need to overclock my phone to call people
-Shi
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You know our phones were designed to be gaming machines too right?
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goob1284 said:
You know our phones were designed to be gaming machines too right?
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I thought they were designed to call people. Hence the name, phone.
Everything else is just an addon.
Ya..... if you ever download a galaxy s rom you might find sanding apps. Look at them. Then you'll see what im talking about

[Q] Overclocking cpu

Hello people
Is it possible to overclock my laptop's CPU?
alex ainsley said:
Hello people
Is it possible to overclock my laptop's CPU?
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Way wrong place to ask this. I think.
But yes, depending on brand, etc.
ok sorry where should i ask that ^^ question
Try the off topic forum.
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Depends what motherbaord and CPU you have
You can OC a laptop, but the thermal cooling won't work well. It's best NOT to do it.
well I've got due core Pentiums, but tell me this... if it's possible to overclock my pc just with some coding, like when your rooting a android phone ?
alex ainsley said:
well I've got due core Pentiums, but tell me this... if it's possible to overclock my pc just with some coding, like when your rooting a android phone ?
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Yes, you probably can... doesn't mean you should do it. Did I mention it'll kill your CPU faster than you can say gigahertz?
Just google around for the exact model of your CPU and overclocking.
But you shouldn't though.
Ok I don't want to kill my pc so I wont to it.
But if there's a safe way of doing it like doing it with android phones then let me know.
Even what we do with the Androids aren't good. The underclock is there to reduce battery consumption.
Overclocking your processor should be done with extreme caution. The excess heat caused can be fatal to the core and anything around it. The best cooling method is always liquid nitrogen.
real men overclock to the max .
that said , oc is done in the bios 90% of the time and 95% of the lappys wont even have an oc option in the bios
PartTimeLegend said:
Overclocking your processor should be done with extreme caution. The excess heat caused can be fatal to the core and anything around it. The best cooling method is always liquid nitrogen.
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Right... keep the liquid nitro on your laptop...
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souljaboy said:
real men overclock to the max .
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So I should have my phone running at 2Ghz all the time
MacaronyMax said:
So I should have my phone running at 2Ghz all the time
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well i know i have mine screen on at 1.54g(max) ... but 2ghz .. impressive
souljaboy said:
well i know i have mine screen on at 1.54g(max) ... but 2ghz .. impressive
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Haha Thanks
I do not see the purpose of overclocking. The phone works fast enough. But if it gets you excited...
SGS
just use setFSB:
http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/
It is possible to overclock any CPU
But the problem with laptop is that usually they run very hot with the stock clock settings,
as soon as you overclock it makes the CPU run faster but Hotter as well and you run the risk of causing permanent damage to your laptop, Best not to do it,
Plus it will greatly reduce battery life
Unscrew the bottom of your laptop, scrap the stock heatsink for a corsair watercooler kit, up the FSB bus until the RAM melts....
...profit!

x8 cpu to 1Ghz

It is possible to set x8 cpu to 1000 Mhz? I have read that yes. So how?
NO WAY.......!
Impossible
This is impossible... well.. Without melting the CPU or burning your phone... to death...
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This is because the X8 have a ArmV6 processor... which seems to have a max of 864mhz clock speed... and IDK people that can run at that clock...
ArmV7 can be overclocked to 1GHz thought...
amieow98 said:
[/COLOR]This is because the X8 have a ArmV6 processor... which seems to have a max of 864mhz clock speed... and IDK people that can run at that clock...
ArmV7 can be overclocked to 1GHz thought...
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The processor architecture is not related to its speed.
Just because it's an ARMv6 it doesn't mean its maximum speed is 8xx Mhz.. You can have ARMv6 chips running at 2Ghz if they were made to run at those speeds..
The one on our phones starts failing at 8xx Mhz, and that also depends on the silicon quality of the chip you got..
About ARMv7.. You have chips on the market running way above 1Ghz
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yes, I've tried that by mistake ......I've got endless FC to the point that I cant use my phone... So I re flashed my my rom again....
That is way pushing more to what your device can do.
I suggest you wouldnt try if you still want your x8 alive.
Well, the hardware doesn't support it
Our phone is stable at 600 MHz
But support at least 825
There are limits,only a dual core phone could run that frequency without exploding....
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leroy_coco said:
Well, the hardware doesn't support it
Our phone is stable at 600 MHz
But support at least 825
There are limits,only a dual core phone could run that frequency without exploding....
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arm7 CPUs can [email protected] 1ghz and most of single cores can even go up [email protected] 1.5ghz
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faraz_fireboy said:
army CPUs can [email protected] 1ghz and most of single cores can even go up [email protected] 1.5ghz
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army grade (or military grade) products are a tad different including material and producting quality. But most of them are easyli replaceable as well...
Or if you ment arm cpu-s, well that could be done. If you can add quality cooling, plus voltage, a bit different architecture (which is at producting) they can. There are x86 CPU-s that can run at 4-5 GHz overclocked when they are stable at 3 Ghz. But they are cooled quite heavily and not to mention overvolted.
Our CPU-s manufatcure and basic, the design and required materials are for 600Mhz (with engeneering offset of 1.2 maybe) If the material quality and the casing is good, they can be overclocked with the "default" options (such as heat transfer -cooling-, voltage and current).
I can belive that the cpu of our phone can reach 1 Ghz, but not in our phone and not in manufacturer default settings.
Ken-Shi_Kun said:
army grade (or military grade) products are a tad different including material and producting quality. But most of them are easyli replaceable as well...
Or if you ment arm cpu-s, well that could be done. If you can add quality cooling, plus voltage, a bit different architecture (which is at producting) they can. There are x86 CPU-s that can run at 4-5 GHz overclocked when they are stable at 3 Ghz. But they are cooled quite heavily and not to mention overvolted.
Our CPU-s manufatcure and basic, the design and required materials are for 600Mhz (with engeneering offset of 1.2 maybe) If the material quality and the casing is good, they can be overclocked with the "default" options (such as heat transfer -cooling-, voltage and current).
I can belive that the cpu of our phone can reach 1 Ghz, but not in our phone and not in manufacturer default settings.
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Tnx for the post but
it was a writing mistake of go keyboard...I meant to say arm7 instead of Army...
Really sorry about that
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Yes it can reach 1ghz maybe but just in laboratory conditions and in control of experts...
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faraz_fireboy said:
Yes it can reach 1ghz maybe but just in laboratory conditions and in control of experts...
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Yup.. With proper voltage and heat dissipation it would be possible.
To everyone saying that if you do an extreme overclock, the cpu will burn, get on fire, melt the pcb, explode.. Please stop watching scifi movies. If the frequency is too high, it will just freeze or not turn on at all.. No harm will be done. The only thing that can harm it is by giving it more voltage, but even that won't leave any physical marks.
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faraz_fireboy said:
arm7 CPUs can [email protected] 1ghz and most of single cores can even go up [email protected] 1.5ghz
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I read thar xperia mini/pro/active/live/ray's cpu can be overclocked from 1ghz to 2ghz
I have a real proof that armv6 can go above 1ghz.I could do that on my previous phone,samsung galaxy 3.
Galaxy 3 has samsungs processor clocked on 667 mhz.and when I flashed my custom rom I was suprised when I could overclock it to 1400mhz.yes,I said 1.4 ghz.and I thought that ill have reboots,freezes,and that the phone wil overheat and such...but no.pure speed.temperature was around 28 degrees.
How much you can overclock is mostly in cpu company.and in our case,quallcom is one of the worst.it may could be overclocked to 1ghz,but it would need much hardware hacking.
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Just asking....
Do anyone think it was posibble to change the cpu from armv6 to armv7 on X8
well i am new here.......
BeeWare said:
Do anyone think it was posibble to change the cpu from armv6 to armv7 on X8
well i am new here.......
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no
impossible
its impossible you can never set 1ghz or more:crying:
you can but it won't be stable. period.
sgt. meow said:
you can but it won't be stable. period.
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unstable....overheating melting destruction of connectors...........lol
I think u can do it by super cooling, and have to hack the system. But it would be better if u buy a dual core phone
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[Q] Overclocking to 1000Mhz

Hi! i was wondering if Xperia X8 E15i could be overclocked to 1000MHz because i heard from my brother (he had this phone and then i got it) and his not sure because its not possible anymore to do it anymore.
My brother had my xperia long time ago and he had 1000MHz then later when he gave it to me he unrooted it and make it to normal Xperia
senci00 said:
Hi! i was wondering if Xperia X8 E15i could be overclocked to 1000MHz because i heard from my brother (he had this phone and then i got it) and his not sure because its not possible anymore to do it anymore.
My brother had my xperia long time ago and he had 1000MHz then later when he gave it to me he unrooted it and make it to normal Xperia
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864 mhz is max for msm7227 (or armv6...)
you cant go higher
and 864 is very unstabile:good:
OK but I use like this 600-800 MHz and I get no lags playing bike race but what is best?
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senci00 said:
OK but I use like this 600-800 MHz and I get no lags playing bike race but what is best?
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High frequency-less CPU life
low frequency -long CPU life
Choose what u want
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@senci00: your brother is joking only with 1000MHz
@fotak-x: no, you can set higher frequencies than 864 with a modded frequency table. I made an experiment earlier and reach 921,6MHz, but:
-the phone was really unstable
-needed really cold environment (around zero celsius)
-to reach this frequency needed to extremely decrease all other frequency (axi and ahb bus), so the phone was slower
@Gogeta: basically the arm core can't produce enough heat to get physical damages due the overheating (the most critical part is the soldering what need around 280C temperature to damage, hard to reach it with 1-1,3 voltage and 100-200mA)
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pilu1978 said:
@senci00: your brother is joking only with 1000MHz
@fotak-x: no, you can set higher frequencies than 864 with a modded frequency table. I made an experiment earlier and reach 921,6MHz, but:
-the phone was really unstable
-needed really cold environment (around zero celsius)
-to reach this frequency needed to extremely decrease all other frequency (axi and ahb bus), so the phone was slower
@Gogeta: basically the arm core can't produce enough heat to get physical damages due the overheating (the most critical part is the soldering what need around 280C temperature to damage, hard to reach it with 1-1,3 voltage and 100-200mA)
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So we can overclock to higher value without any problem???
I mean it doesn't damages anything so we should increase value
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Theoretically yes, you can set high frequencies with minimal risk. All arm cpu have extreme low power consumption (compared to the x86 cpus), the physical damage due the heat is minimal (but more than zero) The overclock ability of each 7x27 soc is different and depends on lot of thing (damages in the silicium structure, soldering quality between the core and the case, etc...). Some soc unstable on 700MHz, some working good on 800+ MHz. And the most x8 owner have "low quality" cpu, because under the manufacturing procedure all cpu tested, and the high quality cpus (what stable on 800-900MHz) marked and sold as 7x27T (turbo) with default 800MHz (this is normal, usually the manufacturers sold the damaged cpus with lower clock or disabled features, for example: you buy an i3 cpu into your desktop, but maybe the cpu manufactured as i5 with damaged core, and after disabling the damaged parts, sold as i3).
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[Q] How do I overclock my phone?

Hello people! I just succeded with rooting my LG Optimus 4X HD :victory: And the reason I did that was to increase the performance on my phone, but I couldn't find any good apps for that. I want suggestions about apps that can overclock EVERY CORE and not just a single one, please respond as soon as possible
AbdulTheInsane said:
Hello people! I just succeded with rooting my LG Optimus 4X HD :victory: And the reason I did that was to increase the performance on my phone, but I couldn't find any good apps for that. I want suggestions about apps that can overclock EVERY CORE and not just a single one, please respond as soon as possible
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have u done any overclocking in your whole life ? ...
you cant overclock from settings only one core. to overclock only one core u have to do a surgery to the cpu chip........
u cant overlock if the kernel does not support it. stock rom limit is 1500
kessaras said:
have u done any overclocking in your whole life ? ...
you cant overclock from settings only one core. to overclock only one core u have to do a surgery to the cpu chip........
u cant overlock if the kernel does not support it. stock rom limit is 1500
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Dude I just rooted my phone like 2 days ago so don't excpect me to be a pro at these stuff xD (I am a noob) But you didn't really answer my question tho :s
First,You need to install a kernel that supports overclocking, and after that you can use app like trickstermod or tegra overclock. But i would strongly suggest you to read more about rom,kernel,recovery etc. before asking such questions.
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AbdulTheInsane said:
Dude I just rooted my phone like 2 days ago so don't excpect me to be a pro at these stuff xD (I am a noob) But you didn't really answer my question tho :s
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the phone doesnt have to do anything with the procedure u can overclock anything. from just a coffee machine to a kitchen , from a pc to a phone !! if a cpu has more than one core, u cant just overclock only one of them. I answered i told u the limit of the stock rom and kernel is 1500. u cant overclock. u must have a custom kernel that can support overclocking.
that means u need to unlock bootloader and flash at least a custom kernel if not a whole rom.
<<EDIT>> and just for the knowledge ! take for example samsung s3. it has a lower cpu frequency but the phone is little faster than our optimus. overclocking isnt only about rising the frequency. u can also overclock by slightly giving more voltage and faster correspondence. u have to read a lot to understand how it works. for example a mistake can make u have a slow 1700 cpu but a fast 1200 cpu. read read read read
kessaras said:
the phone doesnt have to do anything with the procedure u can overclock anything. from just a coffee machine to a kitchen , from a pc to a phone !! if a cpu has more than one core, u cant just overclock only one of them. I answered i told u the limit of the stock rom and kernel is 1500. u cant overclock. u must have a custom kernel that can support overclocking.
that means u need to unlock bootloader and flash at least a custom kernel if not a whole rom.
<<EDIT>> and just for the knowledge ! take for example samsung s3. it has a lower cpu frequency but the phone is little faster than our optimus. overclocking isnt only about rising the frequency. u can also overclock by slightly giving more voltage and faster correspondence. u have to read a lot to understand how it works. for example a mistake can make u have a slow 1700 cpu but a fast 1200 cpu. read read read read
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I get it now, but I think I asked the question in a wrong way so let me tell you again how I was ACTUALLY thinking. What I want is to enable EVERY single core and make them have 1.5 GHz speed. How can I do that?
AbdulTheInsane said:
I get it now, but I think I asked the question in a wrong way so let me tell you again how I was ACTUALLY thinking. What I want is to enable EVERY single core and make them have 1.5 GHz speed. How can I do that?
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Buy tegra overclock from playstore.
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AbdulTheInsane said:
I get it now, but I think I asked the question in a wrong way so let me tell you again how I was ACTUALLY thinking. What I want is to enable EVERY single core and make them have 1.5 GHz speed. How can I do that?
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set governor to performance, set cpuquiet to userspace. you need trickstermod app & custom kernel in order to tune this.
AbdulTheInsane said:
I get it now, but I think I asked the question in a wrong way so let me tell you again how I was ACTUALLY thinking. What I want is to enable EVERY single core and make them have 1.5 GHz speed. How can I do that?
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And watch your battery drain in under an hour.
What have you been doing to actually have a point that you have thought a quad core 1.5ghz phone needs overclocking?
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AbdulTheInsane said:
I get it now, but I think I asked the question in a wrong way so let me tell you again how I was ACTUALLY thinking. What I want is to enable EVERY single core and make them have 1.5 GHz speed. How can I do that?
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your cores are already at 1500. to set a perfomance governor to make them run permanently at 1500 will cause u a huge battery drain and cpu overheat. when u will go play a game the heat will enable automatically the cpu to rest so u will have actually around 1000 mhz speed. the cpu HAS to rest. the phones dont have many big fans inside to cool the board and the cpu. thats why people prefer ondemand governor usually. the cpu rests until the 1st core go to 90% usage or more and then the other cores are enabled too. when the cpu usage go below 90% one core is working again and when there isnt any need for cpu usage , the core goes down to 102 mhz.
overclocking
before you get your phone overclocked you should but in consideration that you may break your phone..over heating .... battery consumption.. don't look for performance alone >> you cant get performance with out battery drain or over heating >> just thing before you do that
You should look at how often cores 3&4 are even active. It's very rarely on my Nexus
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ah c'mon he cant destroy the phone even if he wanted to. its not like he has the knowledge to decompile the kernel , change the proccessor limit to over 1700 and recompile it. so his limit is 1700 of iodak and werewolf and mokee. the thing is to understand how overclock works. he will figure it out eventually.
kessaras said:
ah c'mon he cant destroy the phone even if he wanted to. its not like he has the knowledge to decompile the kernel , change the proccessor limit to over 1700 and recompile it. so his limit is 1700 of iodak and werewolf and mokee. the thing is to understand how overclock works. he will figure it out eventually.
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LOL... How can we decomplie the kernel and recompile that?
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Yeah, I think the max over clock for p880 only reach 1700. Or am I wrong?
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momo95 said:
Yeah, I think the max over clock for p880 only reach 1700. Or am I wrong?
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for the developers that know what to do , max for our phone is 1700. originally the safe overclocking at any cpu since many many years , is around 20%. after that it needs cooler. the better the cooler the more u can overclock.
Hi, trickster show me that my phone don't use the 1700 MHz. Y?
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Probably it is not overclocked.
The stock higher operating frequency of p880 is 1500 MHz, and that is what your trickster diagram is showing.
So. Either your phone is notoverclocked, or in whatever kernel you are using maximum frequency is set to 1500 MHz.
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Ehm, i have iodak v08 cm10.1.3 and cwm6.0.4.4
I'll check how to overclock the CPU.
May some one also look for a how-to if i don't find anything for overclocking my CPU
Thanks and kind regards
Edit;;;
I've found it. Can some one explain to me how to fit this things?
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