Screen Mirroring... Do we have ANY options? - Nexus 7 General

I know there is no MHL - even tested to be positive and it doesn't work - however, wondering what other options potentially exist for screen mirroring to a TV?
Not interested in DLNA (I've used Skifka/similar and it's good) but I want to mirror so I can stream anything from the N7 (games, Hulu, etc.) to my TV.
Thanks!

|mpulse said:
I know there is no MHL - even tested to be positive and it doesn't work - however, wondering what other options potentially exist for screen mirroring to a TV?
Not interested in DLNA (I've used Skifka/similar and it's good) but I want to mirror so I can stream anything from the N7 (games, Hulu, etc.) to my TV.
Thanks!
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Roku juice if you own a Roku for some content, I don't think games, but I haven't tried...
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http://esrlabs.com
"Android transporter" with a raspberry pi may be an option in the near future. I already have a RPi, so this would be awesome for me.
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kisrita said:
Roku juice if you own a Roku for some content, I don't think games, but I haven't tried...
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Does it support Hulu or other streaming services, or just media that's on your local device? If the latter then it's the same as DLNA/Skifka.

|mpulse said:
Does it support Hulu or other streaming services, or just media that's on your local device? If the latter then it's the same as DLNA/Skifka.
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if you have a Roku hooked up to your TV already, there are separate channels for things like Hulu and Netflix. You would stream to Roku direct over wifi from internet, not through the android device. The Roku juice channel and application just enables you to stream media from the android to the TV through Roku. I have only tried it for pictures, and not with Jellybean yet at all. I doubt it works unless the media is located on your android. I can test tonight when I get home, I'm at work now.
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I am not sure if it will even support WiFI Direct Display mirroring as has been demoed on the OMAP 4 series chipset. As, that was one of the advantages the OMAP4 had over the Tegra 3. In either case we haven't seen a lot happen with that either.

Just an update to my post, I tested the Roku juice demo on the nexus 7, it seems to work for local media and had a podcast option I didn't know what to do with. But no streaming of games.
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kisrita said:
Just an update to my post, I tested the Roku juice demo on the nexus 7, it seems to work for local media and had a podcast option I didn't know what to do with. But no streaming of games.
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If i get install the Nexus & with the plex app and use it to stream the content to the roku box ( $50) version would that work always for audio video and images? And when I have the roku and the tablet set u on the same wifi network...would streaming from my nexus to the roku use my data or bandwidth?

theshree said:
If i get install the Nexus & with the plex app and use it to stream the content to the roku box ( $50) version would that work always for audio video and images? And when I have the roku and the tablet set u on the same wifi network...would streaming from my nexus to the roku use my data or bandwidth?
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You would install Plex server on a PC, and the Plex media channel on the Roku, and/or Plex media app on the android device. With this setup, you could stream videos from your PC, or from the Internet (if using Internet channels like Hulu) to either the Roku, or to your Android device. The Roku uses your wifi network, android devices can use wifi or cellphone data.
If you are trying to stream a video saved on your android device to your TV, then you don't use Plex. You would need Roku juice installed on the android and on the Roku box too. Note, I only tried this with their demo app, which is limited to the first video and I did not see the Transformers video in the list. I don't know if that is a demo limitation, or if the Roku juice app can only stream videos you record on your android device.
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Miracast set top box!!

Hey,
I've just seen a Miracast set top box from Netgear. This could be the solution to the missing HDMI out of the Nexus 7!
http://www.netgear.de/products/home/hometheater/media-players/PTV3000.aspx
Can anyone remember nVidias demo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b52zqNIeQso
Let's hope it will work SOON!!!
towlie288 said:
Hey,
I've just seen a Miracast set top box from Netgear. This could be the solution to the missing HDMI out of the Nexus 7!
http://www.netgear.de/products/home/hometheater/media-players/PTV3000.aspx
Can anyone remember nVidias demo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b52zqNIeQso
Let's hope it will work SOON!!!
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It sais you need aNotebook, Smartphone or Tablet with Intel® WiDi oder Miracast™,
does our Nexus 7 has Inel WiDi or Miracast?
Is it just Software or do you need special Hardware Support for that?
It would be nice if i could stream from my Laptop or my Galaxy SII as well.
fryroyal said:
It sais you need aNotebook, Smartphone or Tablet with Intel® WiDi oder Miracast™,
does our Nexus 7 has Inel WiDi or Miracast?
Is it just Software or do you need special Hardware Support for that?
It would be nice if i could stream from my Laptop or my Galaxy SII as well.
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Did you watch the Video? The Tegra 3 can do it. I don't know more... but I hope there will be a software update to do it.
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i do know the tegra 3 is miracast capable i dont think i can post a link so ill just post what i found, this is dated july 27 2012.
Nvidia, a member of the Wi-Fi Alliance, announced that it's supporting the new Miracast WiFi-Direct based protocol which is expected to launch by the Wi-Fi Alliance within the next few months.
For the uninitiated, Miracast will be an open standard, so any mobile device or display manufacturer will be able to implement the technology. It will also be a direct competitor to closed eco-systems like Intel's WiDi and Apple's AirPlay which enable users to wirelessly stream videos and games to external displays.
There are also other open standards for streaming media such as DLNA, but these are plagued with interoperability issues that have limited their traction in the market place. To address the limitations of these solutions, the Wi-Fi Alliance created its upcoming open wireless display standard called Miracast.
"Underpinning the Miracast specification is Wi-Fi Direct – a specification defined for peer-to-peer, direct wireless connectivity between devices," Nvidia said on Thursday in its whitepaper. "Miracast Certified devices will be able to connect with each other directly, without the mediation of a wireless access point, by leveraging the functionality introduced by Wi-Fi Direct. When two devices connect with each other directly, one assumes the role of the source (transmitting device) and the other becomes a sink (the devices receiving and rendering the content to the user)."
Nvidia said that it has developed a Miracast wireless display stack that is Tegra 3 optimized and can be integrated into the Tegra mobile platform. This source-side solution enables tablet and phone OEMs to implement a Miracast certifiable product by combining the Tegra application processor and compatible Tegra Android BSP package just as they do today.
"The Tegra optimized Miracast solution is comprised of two major components – the multimedia (video/audio) processing block and the industry compliant wireless display networking stack," Nvidia explained. "The multimedia processing block takes advantage of Tegra’s multi-core graphics engine and dedicated hardware video/audio codecs to accelerate the decoding of video content, render graphics surfaces and perform the final compositing operations before encoding into a H.264 bit stream to be wirelessly transmitted."
We are miracast certified, however there needs to be an app to activate this tech for us, I believe, but if they have the set top box, chances are there's an app for it, too.
All I can say is, yay! Step in the right direction. -Ara
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Hopefully it isn't $99. Maybe $49. I'm not paying a ton of money just to get video to my TV. $50 tops.
How is the 3000 compared to the PTV2000 that is already available at Best Buy and stuff?
http://www.netgear.com/home/products/hometheater/media-players/PTV2000.aspx
I don't see the PTV3000 on the US site.
The PTV2000 is $99 at Best Buy. eff that.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/NETGEAR...309756217&skuId=2103213&st=netgear&cp=1&lp=22
Is this to mirror the display? Like HDMI?
Or is it just a file viewer? Like DLNA?
Cl8rs said:
Is this to mirror the display? Like HDMI?
Or is it just a file viewer? Like DLNA?
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Miracast is a new standard for wireless display. So basically a mirrored image or maybe a second screen. I'm hoping I could widi a video and control it all with my tablet/phone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd6PkRqNxs0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
That's how you play full hd shows/movies/music with no dramas its been around for ages. Best part is wd keep updating the firmware so it plays anything I throw at it.
Gaming well you can't do that but if you can't see the 7" screen right in front of you well you'd probably find it more beneficial to invest in glasses.
It also has some other benefits too, bubble upnp is one of the best things I have come across.
Wdtvlive and Bubble upnp a match made in Sofia Vergara's underpants.
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player911 said:
Hopefully it isn't $99. Maybe $49. I'm not paying a ton of money just to get video to my TV. $50 tops.
How is the 3000 compared to the PTV2000 that is already available at Best Buy and stuff?
http://www.netgear.com/home/products/hometheater/media-players/PTV2000.aspx
I don't see the PTV3000 on the US site.
The PTV2000 is $99 at Best Buy. eff that.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/NETGEAR...309756217&skuId=2103213&st=netgear&cp=1&lp=22
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The difference is that only the ptv3000 is miracast capable. At least that's what the product page says. I've already written an email to net gear Germany to ask them about this box. As soon as I have an answer I will post it.
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Cl8rs said:
Is this to mirror the display? Like HDMI?
Or is it just a file viewer? Like DLNA?
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Did you watch the YouTube video in the first post?
There you see what you can do with tegra 3 and miracast.
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towlie288 said:
Did you watch the YouTube video in the first post?
There you see what you can do with tegra 3 and miracast.
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Got it. I didn't see the video.
So I am assuming this is the first TV Box(similar to like a Roku or something) that allows us to wirelessly display our Nexus to our HDTV? That's what I am seeing. Also it's only in Germany at the moment.
But the question is, do our Nexus 7's natively support something like this? I am assuming this needs development, like an app or software update.
Any news on this?
Not sure I see the point of this. I already have a WD Live that can stream all my video from my PC to my TV. Why would I put video on my N7, then send to my TV when I can just send it directly to my TV? Even the 16 GB N7 can maybe just barely hold a decently encoded movie at full 1080p. I just don't think I have any content on my N7 that cannot be sent to my TV in an easier, higher quality way.
Edit: Been thinking about this. Seriously, what do you use it for? The only thing I could come up with is letting your friends watch you play a game on the tablet or something. Every other scenario I can think of has a better solution.
brizey said:
Not sure I see the point of this. I already have a WD Live that can stream all my video from my PC to my TV. Why would I put video on my N7, then send to my TV when I can just send it directly to my TV? Even the 16 GB N7 can maybe just barely hold a decently encoded movie at full 1080p. I just don't think I have any content on my N7 that cannot be sent to my TV in an easier, higher quality way.
Edit: Been thinking about this. Seriously, what do you use it for? The only thing I could come up with is letting your friends watch you play a game on the tablet or something. Every other scenario I can think of has a better solution.
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It's not only for videos. I have a tf101 transformer and used it to give presentations at the university with HDMI out. The point is to mirror the screen content of your device and not only play back media.
And it looks promising with the low latency.
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towlie288 said:
It's not only for videos. I have a tf101 transformer and used it to give presentations at the university with HDMI out. The point is to mirror the screen content of your device and not only play back media.
And it looks promising with the low latency.
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My thoughts too, I am looking forward to be able to mirror my N7 screen to my 46" TV.
brizey said:
Not sure I see the point of this. I already have a WD Live that can stream all my video from my PC to my TV. Why would I put video on my N7, then send to my TV when I can just send it directly to my TV? Even the 16 GB N7 can maybe just barely hold a decently encoded movie at full 1080p. I just don't think I have any content on my N7 that cannot be sent to my TV in an easier, higher quality way.
Edit: Been thinking about this. Seriously, what do you use it for? The only thing I could come up with is letting your friends watch you play a game on the tablet or something. Every other scenario I can think of has a better solution.
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Emulation Gaming. Plug your tablet up to the TV and use a PS3 gamepad for true retro couch gaming.
I don't stream movies and such, as I'd rather just watch them off the device.
I'm curious about this as well.
Here's some more info about it that I dug up from arstechnica.
In most cases, Miracast can be implemented in software alone, Robinson said. It has a head start, because Android already supports WiFi Direct since version 4.0 . But hardware modifications will help optimize devices for the type of compression, decoding, and encoding Miracast equipment will have to perform, he said.
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http://arstechnica.com/information-...-promises-video-streaming-without-the-router/
It would be cool if there was a software update that could enable this for the Nexus 7! The Netgear box looks small and portable too.
towlie288 said:
Hey,
I've just seen a Miracast set top box from Netgear. This could be the solution to the missing HDMI out of the Nexus 7!
http://www.netgear.de/products/home/hometheater/media-players/PTV3000.aspx
Can anyone remember nVidias demo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b52zqNIeQso
Let's hope it will work SOON!!!
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I've been watching for (complete) Miracast solutions for a while now. This capability is already starting to play a big role in education on the iPad courtesy of AirPlay mirroring. I have no idea why other vendors are sitting on this.
Anyway, the NTV200S is supposed to be compatible with a firmware update. Some more info here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5957/...otv-pro-ntv200s-widi-and-media-streamer-combo
Another big feature that miracast will add is the ability to display your phone's display on your tablet. This way you could always be on your tablet, but at anytime access all the features of your phone.
terminal addict said:
I've been watching for (complete) Miracast solutions for a while now. This capability is already starting to play a big role in education on the iPad courtesy of AirPlay mirroring. I have no idea why other vendors are sitting on this.
Anyway, the NTV200S is supposed to be compatible with a firmware update. Some more info here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5957/...otv-pro-ntv200s-widi-and-media-streamer-combo
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Thanks for the info, I really hope they bring something working soon !

Stream music and pictures from your Nexus 7 to a Roku device

I posted a thread to the Android General forum that is applicable here since so many are looking for ways to stream content from their Nexus 7 to a TV. Using the updated Roku App, you can now stream music and pictures from your Nexus 7 to a supported Roku device. See these links for the App and the Roku Blog announcement...
Roku mobile app updated with Play on Roku, international support
Google Play Store - Roku App
Note that the update Roku App DOES NOT, at this point, stream video from your Android device to the Roku box.
There is at least one bug that I've experienced so far. If I'm streaming video with my Roku 2 XS and exit the Roku App on my Nexus 7, the Roku 2 XS dumps out of the streaming video and goes to the home/main menu screen.

Nexus 7 stutters on MKV with BSPlayer&DicePlayer.

I am on 4.2.1 and tried to play some 720p and 1080p MKV with BSPlayer and DicePlayer which works great on my EvoLte phone. I just got this tablet yesterday and tried playing these videos and get stuttering like crazy. I also have HP touchpad with android and it plays smoothly.
I am doing it wirelessly via the LAN and Samba on these players on both the Nexus 7 and EvoLTE. The nexus can't play smoothly. Is it my wireless signal is better with EvoLte(5ghz band) or is it Tegra 3 can't handle MKV's. I have a Tegra 2 and it can't handle MKV's also.
yazyazoo said:
I am on 4.2.1 and tried to play some 720p and 1080p MKV with BSPlayer and DicePlayer which works great on my EvoLte phone. I just got this tablet yesterday and tried playing these videos and get stuttering like crazy. I also have HP touchpad with android and it plays smoothly.
I am doing it wirelessly via the LAN and Samba on these players on both the Nexus 7 and EvoLTE. The nexus can't play smoothly. Is it my wireless signal is better with EvoLte(5ghz band) or is it Tegra 3 can't handle MKV's. I have a Tegra 2 and it can't handle MKV's also.
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Try using MX Player.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad&hl=en
JB 4.2.2 with MX Player Pro (+ codecs) no problems at all.
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Same problem here...playing mkv with mxplayer over smb is stuttering. Gnex is playing fine although .
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BSplayer
i have never had any issues with BSplayer stuttering.i use it on my nexus 7 as well as my galaxy tab 2 and have no issues.another good player is Archos Video player.just install the codecs with it.its nice.BSplayer though...best imo.
I recommend XBMC. Go to mirrors.xbmc.org, go to test-build and get the hardware accelerated build (feb 19), it can handle more codecs than MX Player.
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I recommend XBMC. Go to mirrors.xbmc.org, go to test-build and get the hardware accelerated build (feb 19), it can handle more codecs than MX Player.
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I will try XBMC with HW accel. I tried the regular XBMC and it was the worse.
The people who have it working smoothly are you doing it wirelessly? I am thinking that is the problem.
I think SMB might have made it bad because streaming with the N card in the Nexus 7 is slow. I think it's one stream N which is barely above G speeds. My EvoLte and Touchpad which have both 2.4 and 5ghz bands seem to play it smooth.
I tried MXPlayer using ES file explorer to find the file. It was better than BSPlayer and DicePlayer in playing.
I will try to put the file directly onto the memory but I only have 8gb which kind of limits what I can put.
Use ffmpeg plugin for mxplayer/diceplayer/archos if you are not. Also makes sure to use HW on dice and HW+ on MX.
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MX player all around goto video player on all my android devices for years now.
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yazyazoo said:
I will try XBMC with HW accel. I tried the regular XBMC and it was the worse.
The people who have it working smoothly are you doing it wirelessly? I am thinking that is the problem.
I think SMB might have made it bad because streaming with the N card in the Nexus 7 is slow. I think it's one stream N which is barely above G speeds. My EvoLte and Touchpad which have both 2.4 and 5ghz bands seem to play it smooth.
I tried MXPlayer using ES file explorer to find the file. It was better than BSPlayer and DicePlayer in playing.
I will try to put the file directly onto the memory but I only have 8gb which kind of limits what I can put.
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With XBMC hardware accel, both offline and streaming 1080p videos play smoothly. If you are paying the video from a flash drive connected through USB OTG it could be the problem due to the read speed.
You can also try VPlayer, it also have DLNA plug-in.
Archos videoplayer is the best videoplayer by far currently, build in SMB support, automatic covers, subtitles, etc, smooth hardware playback of 720p/1080p mkv on just about any device
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5hcmNob3MubWVkaWFjZW50ZXIudmlkZW8iXQ..
Codec plugin for AC3/DTS audio
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tNHJrM3QubGliY29weTIiXQ..
I use it for all my devices, including Android TV sticks
yazyazoo said:
I am on 4.2.1 and tried to play some 720p and 1080p MKV with BSPlayer and DicePlayer which works great on my EvoLte phone. I just got this tablet yesterday and tried playing these videos and get stuttering like crazy. I also have HP touchpad with android and it plays smoothly.
I am doing it wirelessly via the LAN and Samba on these players on both the Nexus 7 and EvoLTE. The nexus can't play smoothly. Is it my wireless signal is better with EvoLte(5ghz band) or is it Tegra 3 can't handle MKV's. I have a Tegra 2 and it can't handle MKV's also.
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You'd better transfer you MKV to .mp4 before you put it to your Tegra 3/2. I am using Pavtube Video Converter to do the conversion and I think the effect is very good.It can support to transfer any video format to the suitable format for your devices.Have a try of this and hope it can help you as well.

[Q] Is there a way to cast a DVD movie from PC?

Hey Guys,
I have been reading a lot and noticed that there are hacks to play local files.
This sound old school but do you think there is a way to play/cast a dvd disc from my PC?
Thanks!
Your video would be transcended and look horrible. The hacks that you speak of are not available to the mass yet. Well at least the apps that will not transcode your video. Waiting on Google to approve SDK. Basically if the cool apps that may even stream your DVDs was released now,
... It wouldn't work on your device.
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keplenk said:
Hey Guys,
I have been reading a lot and noticed that there are hacks to play local files.
This sound old school but do you think there is a way to play/cast a dvd disc from my PC?
Thanks!
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In theory yes, you can stream the PC screen while you are playing a DVD on screen to Chromecast, but its a beta feature and its not as smooth as casting from the chrome browser.
I can say that I have streamed the desktop screen and it works, but can be jumpy depending on what's being displayed. Results will vary depending on your router / LAN/ Wifi / PC speed.
How do you cast your screen? I thought you could only cast you're Chrome browser tabs..?
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Chromecast wish list

So I just got my cc a few days ago and am loving it.. Having sunk money into plexpass membership I'm happy with everything so far but there are 2 things I'd like to see added..
1) local PC gameplay casting. I tried casting the full desktop and playing a game in windowed mode and I could see the game but the frame rate was terrible. Surely if casting was buildt into something like open broadcast software or nvidias showplay . that would be ideal for spectator purposes as there are times my girlfriend likes to watch me play games but doesn't want to sit at the computer to do so. I know twitch is coming but It doesnt need it to be streamed out to twitch to be casted back into my house..
2) the ability to cast video from various sources ( hulu,Netflix and plex) but keep audio playing locally. Something akin to what the roku 3 does with their remote. But also adding a party mode example ( me and gf watch same show using our headphones plugged into our phones so we doesn't wake our children with loud movies.
I'm not sure if either features are coming but it would be awesome.
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1) Non-Android twitch isn't coming unless Google does something miraculous.
Would be awesome to see Nvidia jump on board and support ShadowPlay casting to Chromecast though.
2) Chromecast's platform (I believe) is capable of Bluetooth, but I don't think it's turned on. It's possible Google will add it. The tricky part is just syncing the audio and video since the Bluetooth audio is delayed. Well, that and little things like whether all the code fits in the available storage, heh. The Roku remote with audio is a pretty darn cool feature. Since our phones/tablets are our remotes, it would be awesome to have the option for streaming audio there. We'll see...
My number one is to be able to download my google purchases locally and stream them through my network because my internet connection sucks but my network can easily handle HD streams locally. This would keep me off the torrents for good...
Would kill for MLB at bat app to stream on chromecast. It crashes for me on two different phones using mhl cables... :-/
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greeg32 said:
Would kill for MLB at bat app to stream on chromecast. It crashes for me on two different phones using mhl cables... :-/
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Good luck greg. I need it to see the Tigers....The cables ar about as reliable as an M16 in the mud.
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just a heads up, MLB At Bat 2014 now had chromecast support......just stumbled on it tonight, myself.

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