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CM7 has been set to be outdated this coming fall as Android Ice Cream Sandwich has been scheduled for release in Q4. Ice Cream will be the Honeycomb tie-in we were expecting for Phones as well as a few other features you can check out in the below URL. However, what's not clear is what it's Version Number will be. As 3.1 has been claimed by the soon to be released Update for Honeycomb (for Xoom at least), that will include things like the new Market Movie Rentals features among other things (which you can check out in the 2nd URL).
http://m.lifehacker.com/5800417/the-new-features-of-android-31-ice-cream-sandwich
http://blog.gizmodo.com/5800410/whats-new-in-android-31-honeycomb
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Ugh... Eclair, OK. Froyo, OK. Honeycomb, OK.
But Ice Cream Sandwich rolls off the tongue like a reading of your mortgage statement.
I'm not speaking of the OS, itself, of course, just the naming of it.
hmm yeah plus its long .. we can call it Android ICS just to make it decent lol
Personally, I'm going to call it Ice Cream because that's two syllables just like the previous names and calling it ICS isn't very attractive either.
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japzone said:
Personally, I'm going to call it Ice Cream because that's two syllables just like the previous names and calling it ICS isn't very attractive either.
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Actually, Gingerbread is 3 syllables too
evertec said:
Actually, Gingerbread is 3 syllables too
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Ice Cream Sandwich is 4 syllables...
I wonder if battery life will have improved or declined from Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich (yea that is God Awful.) That was the biggest benefit I saw going from Froyo to Gingerbread.
My Sony Google TV will be a lot more useful now! Thank god!!!
yumm, ice cream. can't wait
virtualkaos said:
My Sony Google TV will be a lot more useful now! Thank god!!!
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Yeah I forgot to mention GoogleTV devices will be getting Honeycomb and Android Market.
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I appreciate that Google is announcing all of this. And I hope things work out well with HC and ICS. But many things can happen in six months. Here is a more cynical reading of Google's announcements:
1. Honeycomb - We tried to catch up with Apple's iPad. It didn't work out real well. HC is a kludge we made to get tablets on the market fast. We are not going to release the source code for HC, ever.
2. ICS - We will have a statue of an ice cream sandwich on the lawn next to our other Android statues. We will have this statue in place by December 31, 2012. As far as manufacturers having ICS phones and tablets you can buy for the Christmas holidays, well, we aren't promising anything.
I know this is harsh, but this is also reality. Google worked hard for quite a while before Android for phones became good to excellent. I believe that Google will get the whole tablet <-> phone integrated operating system working very well. I hope it happens sooner rather than later.
Right now I am running CM7 on my Nook Color and enjoying it. I don't feel like I'm missing out by not having Honeycomb, but I'm sure I'll give it a try before too long.
From Phonescoop:
"Google today confirmed that the new Ice Cream Sandwich system software will be able to run on nearly all current Android hardware. It won't have any specific hardware requirements that might preclude it from working on older handsets."
Does NC count as current Android hardware?
angomy said:
From Phonescoop:
"Google today confirmed that the new Ice Cream Sandwich system software will be able to run on nearly all current Android hardware. It won't have any specific hardware requirements that might preclude it from working on older handsets."
Does NC count as current Android hardware?
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This pretty much means, anything that can run 2.2 and 2.3 will probably be able to run Ice Cream, that includes the Nook Color, although we'll probably have to wait for someone to get a ROM for Nook working. Depending on how Ice Cream will be setup, we may need to also wait for CM8 to have a good experience with it. But who knows, maybe it'll already have all the Features needed to be usable on the Nook.
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japzone said:
This pretty much means, anything that can run 2.2 and 2.3 will probably be able to run Ice Cream, that includes the Nook Color, although we'll probably have to wait for someone to get a ROM for Nook working. Depending on how Ice Cream will be setup, we may need to also wait for CM8 to have a good experience with it. But who knows, maybe it'll already have all the Features needed to be usable on the Nook.
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Honeycomb and/or ICS shouldn't be a problem for us. By the time ICS source is released we might even have a 2.6.35+ kernel port(not that its needed).
dalingrin said:
Honeycomb and/or ICS shouldn't be a problem for us. By the time ICS source is released we might even have a 2.6.35+ kernel port(not that its needed).
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I am more excited at the thought that you (and others) may still be around with the nook at that time. Word that i am reading is the ICS will drop late this year (like, Oct or later), so if you guys stick around with us that long, it would be awesome.
Divine_Madcat said:
I am more excited at the thought that you (and others) may still be around with the nook at that time. Word that i am reading is the ICS will drop late this year (like, Oct or later), so if you guys stick around with us that long, it would be awesome.
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I probably will. I've no plans to buy another tablet until Tegra 3 and ICS.
dalingrin said:
I probably will. I've no plans to buy another tablet until Tegra 3 and ICS.
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Works for me. Heck, even if you do get another tablet, perhaps we can persuade you to hold on to your nook and develop on it, for old times sake.
Hey guys, I know this has probably been asked before but what do you think the future holds for the galaxy tab 7" ?
With Honeycomb looking like its not coming (officially anyways) and gingerbread still being a smartphone OS, do you think perhaps Ice Cream Sandwich will bridge the gap?
I love the Galaxy Tab as it is but keep in mind thats its not offering a true tablet experience, and i dont want to come across as domeone who doesnt enjoy it, I do, however I am interested in future devrlopment.
Cheers.
Sent from my Galaxy Tab.
Honeycomb with eventually be ported and working well, other wise just use cm7 with tablet tweaks, maybe one day Samsung will update to ice cream, but who knows when that will happen, tho they did roll out gingerbread "fairly" quick
I can see a update to HC, I mean I love the GTab, I use it more then my xoom b.c of its perfect size.
natious said:
Honeycomb with eventually be ported and working well, other wise just use cm7 with tablet tweaks, maybe one day Samsung will update to ice cream, but who knows when that will happen, tho they did roll out gingerbread "fairly" quick
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Has Gingerbread been release for T-mobile or am I waiting for T-mobile to release GB?
I hope Samsung atleast release HC if not ice cream.
KidTech said:
Has Gingerbread been release for T-mobile or am I waiting for T-mobile to release GB?
I hope Samsung atleast release HC if not ice cream.
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Any device released with froyo will never have an official HC update, Google said that.
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Any device released with froyo will never have an official HC update, Google said that.
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False.
Honeycomb is only for tablets.
Ice cream sandwich will be the next update, but I don't think the tab will get it.
The Nexus One will get ICS though, and it launched with Eclair.
GldRush98 said:
False.
Honeycomb is only for tablets.
Ice cream sandwich will be the next update, but I don't think the tab will get it.
The Nexus One will get ICS though, and it launched with Eclair.
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Galaxy Tab 7 is a tablet yes? Will it receive HC? No.
GldRush98 said:
False.
Honeycomb is only for tablets.
Ice cream sandwich will be the next update, but I don't think the tab will get it.
The Nexus One will get ICS though, and it launched with Eclair.
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No way Samsung updates the tab 7 to ice cream sandwich. It will have to come from an amazing developer around here
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I'm fine with Froyo honestly, though wouldn't mind GB or HC
Using a custom 1.4 Ghz rom and is as fast if not faster than my ipad
Not that fussed about HC now after playing with it on the Nook. Icecream wouldn't be bad to get the new 'toys' appwise, but the UI? I prefer the 2.x style tbh. I think it works better for 7".
Now, I CAN see Samsung releasing a NEW 7" Tablet with updated gfx core running Icecream, with a thinner form factor too.
Dunno, see how it goes, but what we've got works and works rather well I think.
So ICS just got previewed in Hong Kong as part of the Samsung x Google event.. looks really good... how long does it usually take to get a stable rom of a major firmware release up and running?
For those who missed it:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-now-official/
Stable? Sdk ports won't be stable mate, they might work... But they certainly won't be stable
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ICS requirements are still up in the air, and that will dictate what and how much can be ported over.
In the mean time check out the ICS launcher in the market. Google won't let you download it from the market, but you can still get it from the dev website...
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Can't wait to get ICS running on Galaxy S I9000...
Google confirms Nexus S will get Ice Cream Sandwich -- for real this time (Gingerbread devices, too)
Okay, so we've already seen Ice Cream Sandwich running on the Nexus S, but that was decidedly... unofficial. We've just heard straight from Google's Gabe Cohen that the Nexus S will definitely be getting ICS. In fact, both he and Matias Duarte think most Gingerbread devices will see an upgrade, saying: "Currently in the process for releasing Ice Cream Sandwich for Nexus S. Theoretically should work for any 2.3 device." It's hardly a surprise and there's no specific word on timing just yet, but hopefully it won't take long to move that vanilla Android device up to something with a breaded exterior.
see in Engadget...
I just read @ android central that Google is in the process of getting ICS ready for the Nexus s. Our I9000 would be certainly capable of handling it but without the bootloader,kernel or drivers all we would have is a test rom.
Let's hope Sammy gives us a sweet farewell with one last os upgrade.
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I will expect one (at least beta stage) before Christmas, otherwise I will have a galaxy nexus for my Christmas present.
Won't the next version of cyanogen be built on ICS?
Well in theory we now have confirmation that our hardware can handle ICS no problem. Beyond that, be it through Samsung, a clever dev or Cyanogen, ICS will be hitting the GS. Sooner than most might think.
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Won't the next version of cyanogen be built on ICS?
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cynagenmod would be sweet if they bake icecream sandwich into to it.
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Nexus Two said:
So ICS just got previewed in Hong Kong as part of the Samsung x Google event.. looks really good... how long does it usually take to get a stable rom of a major firmware release up and running?
For those who missed it:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-now-official/
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ICS 4.0 confirmed for all phones that are Gingerbread compatible
so it'll be just a matter of time
Dec. 20th 2011
Samsung Electronics plan to provide the Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich update for GALAXY devices. The platform update for GALAXY S II and GALAXY Note will start in the first quarter 2012, and other GALAXY devices will soon follow.*The ICS-upgradable devices are the GALAXY S II, GALAXY S II LTE, GALAXY Note, GALAXY R, GALAXY Tab 10.1, GALAXY Tab 8.9, GALAXY Tab 7.7, and GALAXY Tab 7.0 Plus.*For upgradable models, Samsung will make separate announcements on details of OS updates schedule for each market according to market situation and carriers’ requirements.**Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich and Samsung GALAXY Nexus, the first Ice Cream Sandwich powered smartphone, were first unveiled at a Google/Samsung joint news conference in Hong Kong on October 19th.**Ice Cream Sandwich brings an entirely new look and feel to Android. It has a redesigned user interface with improved multi-tasking, notifications, Wi-Fi hotspot, NFC support and a full Web browsing experience. Ice Cream Sandwich also features a new People App which lets users browse pictures, messages and social network updates from friends, family and co-workers.*Ice Cream Sandwich also introduces innovations such as Face Unlock, which uses facial recognition to unlock the smartphone. Using NFC technology, Android Beam allows users to quickly share Web pages, apps and YouTube™ videos with friends by simply tapping two phones back-to-back. Users can even use fun effects while shooting video or video chatting with Google Talk™.*** Google, Nexus, Android, Android Market, YouTube, Google Talk, Gmail, Google Maps, Google Earth, and Google Calendar are trademarks of Google, Inc.*
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if we upgrade to android v4, can we make call using GSM?
ICS Android v4
abima80 said:
if we upgrade to android v4, can we make call using GSM?
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That is the same thing I am Looking forward to. I hope they fix this issue because the information is a little misleading on the Samsung web site.
Misleading? I see nothing that says a LTE tablet can make calls on a GSM network. Come on folks pay attention! This will not change with ICS. These devices are tablets not phones. The only way that is possible is with a Skype like client or true SIP client over LTE.
For goodness sake why do y'all think the current LTE handsets do either CDMA/LTE (Verizon and they run 2 radios at once causing enormous battery drain) or GSM/LTE devices that do CSFB if on AT&T. AT&T devices had down to 3G, EDGE or GSM when you receive a call or make one.
After receiving a shiny used Nook Color from Ebay, I immediately flashed the latest daily of CM9 (ICE) to EMMC and played around with it for a while. I installed several "tablet" apps from the Market, and I was very impressed by the formatting and presentation.
Unfortunately, performance was marginal at best, so I decided to flash the "official stable" version of CM7. I installed the same tablet apps as before and noticed that they were not displaying in "tablet mode". Landscape, yes, but not tablet-formatted.
For example, running Pocket Informant in landscape mode in CM9 provides a nice graphical notebook-like format, but CM7 displays the same as a simple landscape calendar, much like on my DROID Bionic.
So from this, I conclude that CM9 is a "real" tablet OS, while CM7 presents the Nook Color to the apps not as a tablet but as a high-resolution phone. Can anyone else confirm this? I absolutely LOVE the performance of CM7--it really flies and is very responsive--but long for the true "tablet" functionality of CM9.
That said, I'd love some input about how landscape mode works on the OS you have installed, and what "tablet-mode" apps actually render as a tablet.
1. What version of the OS are you running?
2. What "tablet" apps are you running?
3. Of those "tablet" apps you are running, what actually render as "tablet" apps?
Thanks!
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So from this, I conclude that CM9 is a "real" tablet OS, while CM7 presents the Nook Color to the apps not as a tablet but as a high-resolution phone. Can anyone else confirm this?!
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Yes, that is 100% correct. CM7 is based on Android 2.x and CM9 is based on Android 4.x. Android 2.x was designed for phones, Android 3.x was the first version to be designed with tablets in mind (and only tablets; phone functionality was stripped out), and Android 4.x folded both capabilities back into a single OS version. Because of the rush-job Google did in order to release Android 3.0 to compete with the iPad they didn't release the source code, which means it couldn't be properly ported over to the Nook Color or other Android tablets that were built with Android 2.x. However, they did release the full source code for 4.x in November which means this is the first time we have the source code for a version of Android actually designed for tablets
Because of these differences many apps have been built to require Android 3.x or higher (which includes CM9) in order to show the tablet layout. Maybe some of those are arbitrary but I'm sure others are taking advantage of system calls and/or UI calls that have only been added to the API since Android 3.x
Wait for the new hardware accelerated build fattire & co. work on right now.
It should be able to speed up things quite a bit thanks to a new SGX driver release.
It's still really early in the game. There's only one official ICS tablet out there - the Asus Transformer Prime. People were expecting many more ICS tablet announcements at CES a few weeks ago - didn't happen. I expect it's because ICS is based off of Honeycomb which didn't exactly set the world on fire and wasn't a big draw for app developers. But now that the ICS is going to be a joint phone/tablet OS - it should spark developers to greater heights. I also think the 7" form factor is going to be more and more popular also... and apps will be developed accordingly. Reader apps like Kindle look great on the nook because they were developed for the smaller form factors... others should follow suit.
Only a few games built for phone (Monopoly and some dice game the kids play are the ones that come to mind) don't render properly on the NC (running CM9). Otherwise, there are a few that won't do landscape (some of the ESPN and some cookbook apps), but I've had good luck otherwise.
Huh - Monopoly runs fine on my emmc install of the latest 2/2 nightly - and it did on the others as well...
I was playing with X-Plane on CM7 with great success. Can't wait to see if it works on the 2/2 nightly.
I agree with the OP. As I am currently going back and forth between cm7 and cm9 the apps are not responding in the same way. Perfect example is gmail. Love the interface on ICS! However, it's just not the same experience on cm7. Google's Currents is the same on both. Google Docs (the newly updated version) seems to work the same on the both as well.
Jim Barr said:
After receiving a shiny used Nook Color from Ebay, I immediately flashed the latest daily of CM9 (ICE) to EMMC and played around with it for a while. I installed several "tablet" apps from the Market, and I was very impressed by the formatting and presentation.
Unfortunately, performance was marginal at best, so I decided to flash the "official stable" version of CM7. I installed the same tablet apps as before and noticed that they were not displaying in "tablet mode". Landscape, yes, but not tablet-formatted.
For example, running Pocket Informant in landscape mode in CM9 provides a nice graphical notebook-like format, but CM7 displays the same as a simple landscape calendar, much like on my DROID Bionic.
So from this, I conclude that CM9 is a "real" tablet OS, while CM7 presents the Nook Color to the apps not as a tablet but as a high-resolution phone. Can anyone else confirm this? I absolutely LOVE the performance of CM7--it really flies and is very responsive--but long for the true "tablet" functionality of CM9.
That said, I'd love some input about how landscape mode works on the OS you have installed, and what "tablet-mode" apps actually render as a tablet.
1. What version of the OS are you running?
2. What "tablet" apps are you running?
3. Of those "tablet" apps you are running, what actually render as "tablet" apps?
Thanks!
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AFAIK Tablet mode only exists for honeycomb and newer. Any Android device on a 2.x build is seen as a handset.
That should explain what you are seeing
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Sam Adams said:
It's still really early in the game. There's only one official ICS tablet out there - the Asus Transformer Prime. People were expecting many more ICS tablet announcements at CES a few weeks ago - didn't happen. I expect it's because ICS is based off of Honeycomb which didn't exactly set the world on fire and wasn't a big draw for app developers. But now that the ICS is going to be a joint phone/tablet OS - it should spark developers to greater heights. I also think the 7" form factor is going to be more and more popular also... and apps will be developed accordingly. Reader apps like Kindle look great on the nook because they were developed for the smaller form factors... others should follow suit.
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I never used early builds of Honeycomb, but the version on my wife's transformer is great. Granted I prefer ICS on my transformer prime... but the versions (which I assume are more stable and way less buggy) of honeycomb out now seem really good