If we are rooted, will we be able to install ICS roms? The reason I ask is because I am kinda hazy about the whole locked bootloader thing. I am used to my Droid and Galaxy Tab 10.1 that I can put anything on because they are unlocked, but I do not know about the Bionic.
Rooted and bootloader are pretty different friend.
You can root anything, for the most part. Bootloader, not so much. We wont be able to truly run it unless we get an OTA, or ICS FXZ. I'm basing this off kernel - could be wrong.
So root, yeah, we'll be able to run the majority of it when the code is released. Won't be the kernel built for it though...
I may be wrong, but I think that's pretty close.
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even if you don't get an official ICS update, there'll most likely be ICS ROMs popping up here & there as things progress.
on a side note, what flavour is ICS anyway? vanilla?... chocolate?...
I know there were 2 leaks of ICS for the phone, but has anyone been able to update the ICS ROMs in the threads to use the new kernel and radios? There's still some data issues and we're using a GB kernel
EDIT: i meant leaks, stupid typo
The kernel is based on GB because of the locked bootloader. At least that's how I am to understand it. In other words I think that the custom ROMs can be improved using the leaked ROMs but they'll still have to remain based on the GB kernel. Unless you update your stock system to ICS that is. I think the biggest thing devs should focus on right now is a way to safely upgrade to ICS where downgrading is possible in order to stay on Verizons official upgrade path.
As it stands, the OTA will look for GB 219 when upgrading so those early adopters won't be able to get future upgrades. Unless devs find a way to downgrade or trick the update that is.
Everything I've said could be wrong however this is how I have come to understand it.
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Given that we have the fastboot files can't we just wipe and flash that to downgrade?
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azrael293 said:
Given that we have the fastboot files can't we just wipe and flash that to downgrade?
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No, this results in a brick. Fastboot refuses to flash older partitions over new ones.
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flamefangahs said:
The kernel is based on GB because of the locked bootloader. At least that's how I am to understand it. In other words I think that the custom ROMs can be improved using the leaked ROMs but they'll still have to remain based on the GB kernel. Unless you update your stock system to ICS that is. I think the biggest thing devs should focus on right now is a way to safely upgrade to ICS where downgrading is possible in order to stay on Verizons official upgrade path.
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This is why you need kexec - you can load the ICS kernel dynamically, without corrupting your GB install.
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highlandsun said:
This is why you need kexec - you can load the ICS kernel dynamically, without corrupting your GB install.
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Actually, upgrading to ICS leak is probably the way to go. We can now upgrade from leak 200 to 206, giving us the ability to stay on the upgrade path. Since the XDA forums are dead for the Droid 4, I suggest everyone keep up at droidforums.
Here are the instructions for upgrading from leak 200 to 206:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-4-roms/209619-get-unstuck-ics-leak-200-aka-upgrading-200-206-instructions.html
Also, I believe Hashcode is working on bringing Safestrap 2.0 to the new ICS leak based on the new kernel, and will be working on getting our ROMs on the new kernel as well.
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Since the XDA forums are dead for the Droid 4, I suggest everyone keep up at droidforums.
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droidforums is about as dead for the Droid 4 as is XDA. I am really surprised how little interest people have in this phone. I guess I am one of the few that still loves physical keyboards. Only drawback on this phone is the non-removable battery. Otherwise it is rock solid. Had the original Tilt, then TP and TP2. Had the G2 on T-mobile, but reception on that phone was not good and T-mobile Network in the US sucks.
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droidforums is about as dead for the Droid 4 as is XDA.
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This is true, I was just mentioning since most of the recent information regarding the ICS leak has been on droidforums so checking it out would fill everyone in on whats going on. Because basically development for the GB kernel is probably going to come to a halt and future development will be based on the new ICS kernel, including the existing AOSP ROMs.
wait, the 206 version keeps you on the upgrade path?
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wait, the 206 version keeps you on the upgrade path?
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No, but 206 was supposed to require 219 as 200 did and the official one will and people have found ways around it.
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I have Hashcode's stuff running on my kindle fire. We will all be in for a treat once he starts focusing on D4. He's done really really good work on the kindle.
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I know there were 2 leaks of ICS for the phone, but has anyone been able to update the ICS ROMs in the threads to use the new kernel and radios? There's still some data issues and we're using a GB kernel
EDIT: i meant leaks, stupid typo
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They won't be able to do so. What they will be able to do is make their builds work off/with the new kernel/radios flashed by the leak.
So Hashcode will have two builds.
1) - works on phones running the current stock GB kernel.
2) - works on phones running the leaked ICS kernel.
There is still a locked bootloader so you can't flash unsigned kernels/boot.img. For the leaked "system" files to help you need the ICS kernel. The only way to get the ICS kernel is to flash the leak.
So the leaks are great news for people wanting an AOKP or CM9 build running fully functional....on their leak installed phones. Not much help for those who do not want to flash the leak.
I'll definitely flash the leak once root has been released for 4.0.4 (in case OTA rootkeeper doesn't work) and hashcode releases safestrap 2.0 for the leak.
I'm presently running Hashcode and the rest of the STS Dev Team's CM9 release with modifications for the ICS kernel leak on my D4 that has been flashed to the .206 leak; I just pulled their work from GitHub and compiled it myself with a few little tweaks.
So far it's working great, face unlock and the camera is working perfectly and GSM/WDCMA performance is awesome, I don't seem to have the problem of under-reported GSM signal like in the stock MotoBlur leak.
(Note that I'm in Canada and using Bell Mobility, not in the US on Verizon so I can't say if LTE is functioning properly).
I just flashed it with Safestrap v1.09 for the D4; a little tricky since the bootmenu doesn't accept the Menu/Search softkey input to allow you to enter Safestrap, so I had to boot in BP Tools mode to force loading up the Safestrap Recovery. I made some additional tweaks to the build.prop file as well but am really impressed.
Won't be long before Hashcode puts up an official release, but I definitely recommend trying it out if you're up for it. If Hashcode doesn't mind, I could share a .zip of the build I made if anyone out there is interested.
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I'm presently running Hashcode and the rest of the STS Dev Team's CM9 release with modifications for the ICS kernel leak on my D4 that has been flashed to the .206 leak; I just pulled their work from GitHub and compiled it myself with a few little tweaks.
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Do you think you create a guide or go into more detail how you did this? I'm not quite sure what their git is.
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I just flashed it with Safestrap v1.09 for the D4; a little tricky since the bootmenu doesn't accept the Menu/Search softkey input to allow you to enter Safestrap, so I had to boot in BP Tools mode to force loading up the Safestrap Recovery. I made some additional tweaks to the build.prop file as well but am really impressed.
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This is what I'm trying to fix right now. Seems like the menu/home/search/back buttons are handled as part of the touchscreen. So the new Safestrap has to handle looking for virtual buttons.
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This is what I'm trying to fix right now. Seems like the menu/home/search/back buttons are handled as part of the touchscreen. So the new Safestrap has to handle looking for virtual buttons.
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If you are making good headway, then disregard this. But you could use a scheme similar to FireFireFire for the er, Kindle Fire
Either use a physical button (a return to the old hold the X from the D1, perhaps?) or a few taps to the screen?
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If you are making good headway, then disregard this. But you could use a scheme similar to FireFireFire for the er, Kindle Fire
Either use a physical button (a return to the old hold the X from the D1, perhaps?) or a few taps to the screen?
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Right now, I'm treating the front buttons like they are a special portion of the touch screen (basically any touch past 960 pixels down is considered the "button row", and then I divided the width up into 4 spots for button presses: menu, home, back and search respectively. (This is in the recovery itself as well as the splashscreen which triggers off of menu)
If that fails, Ill just use hard keys for D4's Safestrap temporarily.
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..or maybe the volume buttons (I bet it requires less modification than implementing support for the digitizer)
I just put up an updated Droid4 2.00 Safestrap for use w/ the new MotoICS leaks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688610
BE SURE TO MAKE AN INITIAL BACKUP OF NON-SAFE SYSTEM BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING.
You will use the "System" backup to restore back to stock .206 to update later.
I have the D4 CM9 / AOKP builds for the MotoICS leaks almost ready and I'll post those soon.
I got my bionic this week, and it had ICS .2231 (I believe that was the right number, I could be wrong though) and I was able to successfully fastboot .905 back to it.
If I want to go between ICS and GB, is this possible on the bionic?
What versions of ICS support downgrading? Has anybody tried to downgrade from .247 back to .905?
Thanks
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danifunker said:
I got my bionic this week, and it had ICS .2231 (I believe that was the right number, I could be wrong though) and I was able to successfully fastboot .905 back to it.
If I want to go between ICS and GB, is this possible on the bionic?
What versions of ICS support downgrading? Has anybody tried to downgrade from .247 back to .905?
Thanks
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You can go back to GB from .232 or below. If you install .235 or higher, then you're stuck. .223X is considered below .232, they just changed the numbering system. I believe anyone who has tried downgrading from .235+ has bricked their phone.
Also, didn't you previously post a lot over on the D3 forum?
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You can go back to GB from .232 or below. If you install .235 or higher, then you're stuck. .223X is considered below .232, they just changed the numbering system. I believe anyone who has tried downgrading from .235+ has bricked their phone.
Also, didn't you previously post a lot over on the D3 forum?
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Yup, I used to be in the D3 forum, but I got a D4 and have been frequenting that and the RAZR forums now
Thanks for the heads up, I'll grab a copy of .232 just in case I ever want to run ICS on it.
Is there a download I can find somewhere for it? Also, have people been posting boot.img files for leaks that have been coming out? That's something I can help with.
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Yup, I used to be in the D3 forum, but I got a D4 and have been frequenting that and the RAZR forums now
Thanks for the heads up, I'll grab a copy of .232 just in case I ever want to run ICS on it.
Is there a download I can find somewhere for it? Also, have people been posting boot.img files for leaks that have been coming out? That's something I can help with.
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Here's something you might want to take a look at. Droid Forums seems to be where most of the action for the Bionic is these days, and a guy called SamuriHL has put together a pretty neat little program for moving around with the various ICS leaks and whatnot. http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-bionic-hacks/214902-downgrade-902-no-app-data-loss.html
SamuriHL really saved the day with his House of Bionic to restore my bricked bionic to fully functional ics.
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I was just wondering if anyone has found if any ROMs work with the OTA ICS update for the Bionic. I was running Eclipse 3.0 when my phone was on Gingerbread and I LOVED it, so I'm hoping that works out. But regardless of what ROM, I was wondering if anyone had found any ROM's at all that worked for an OTA ICS updated Bionic, perhaps something that was built for the Razr or something like that. So, any thoughts?
I use IcarusHD and AOKP no problems. Any ROM you used on leaks should still work, provided you're using the same recovery.
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I was just wondering if anyone has found if any ROMs work with the OTA ICS update for the Bionic. I was running Eclipse 3.0 when my phone was on Gingerbread and I LOVED it, so I'm hoping that works out. But regardless of what ROM, I was wondering if anyone had found any ROM's at all that worked for an OTA ICS updated Bionic, perhaps something that was built for the Razr or something like that. So, any thoughts?
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Any of the roms on this forum or others will work as long as you root your phone. Motofail or razor's edge will let you root.
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i remember a thread a while back that contained links to FXZ's for every possible situation and i THINK it was obsidians but sadly that thread is completely useless now because he deleted the first 2 posts in it's thread :/ but i could be wrong about the thread i'm thinking of. Anyone still have have that FXZ or a link to it for bionic's on leak 223? ;w; i'd very much like to finally get off of the leak and back onto the OTA upgrade path so when they release official kitkat for the bionic i won't totally be left in the dust.......
Sadly we will never see an official ota KitKat release. But if you do want the latest JB release you could just use that FXZ instead of taking the OTA. Faster and cleaner.
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B.E.McAllister said:
Sadly we will never see an official ota KitKat release. But if you do want the latest JB release you could just use that FXZ instead of taking the OTA. Faster and cleaner.
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so the 223 leak is better than what we got with the OTA JB? ;w; i just looked up kitkat for bionic and yeah....compatibility issues.....why us ;w;.....i can't wait to get my upgrade now more than ever.....Moto X here i come!
I actually like JB or just must have gotten used to it. If you don't use any of the motoblur apps or you webdock, cm11 which is kk based actually runs very smooth for myself
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If you want to get your bionic on stock JB 4.1.2, I would suggest using SamuriHL's House of Moto to FXZ. You can find it here.
I've been running cm 11 since it came out. It is really nice, but then again, I've grown accustomed to cm roms on my devices.