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(MOD) FFC Development Clean Thread

8So everyone begged for it and here it is, a beggining to end revamp of the ffc mod thread.
Original threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770854
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804146
(note im doing this from my phone, so please let ne know of any typos, broken links, or missed topics)
This will be in Q&A form, so lets get started.
1) Where do I get an FFC?
Globaldirectparts.com sells them in bulk, shipping is slow, so now your best bet is ebay.
2) How do I install it?
Start here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOvt6atrin8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Then here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8436475&postcount=375
Video removed...
3) I got it installed, but how do I use it?
Most custom roms include support for the ffc. If yours does not there is a flashable zip here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11172683&postcount=1482
4) My FFC is blurry... wtf?
You need to focus it, there is a small ring on the FFC, play with it until you find the sweetspot for you.
5) There are red lines in low light, is there a fix?
Currently no, there has been signifigant progress on lowering the amount, but its not perfect yet. Be patient its coming.
6) How do I videochat?
First you need an app called sgstools, get it here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?xtw16417su40j7b
Next go into the .prop editor and select build.prop. Press menu, and then unblock. Now for every field that reads "SGH-T959" change it to "GT-I9000". Hit menu then save, now reboot. You can now go to tye market and download apps such as fring and Tango!
7) In the chat app, my image is rotated 90degrees.
Its an app problem. Ask the person you are chatting with if they see you sideways, if they say yes, uninstall the app and try changing your build.prop to SPH-D700.
8)What if I have more questions?
Ask them here, I vow to keep this thread flame free. (although there will be sarcasm)
9)What is SGStools?
Its a program used to install the i9000 cam, change build.prop, anf even access hidden features of your phone such as gps test and network status. You can find the latest version here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?xtw16417su40j7b
Thanks to Sirrial, Kellylewis, Scrizz, Master, Eugene, hell everybody, we've been working on this for 4 mos. and we are the reason the Vibrant 4g exsits.
Update: There is an update to sgstools. After you install, reboot then open your market. When you look at your apps list you will see an update, dont click it you'll get an error. Instead, long press it and select update.
(I didnt do this to step on toes. There was a huge demand for this. If you want faster production I highly advise on donating to Kellylewis, he is trying to juglle this project along with life and service to.his country, correct me if i'm wrong there. Also I purposefully left out the test kernals posted before because they aren't a full fix and have produced errors with kb1 roms)
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orells said:
So everyone begged for it and here it is, a beggining to end revamp of the ffc mod thread.
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I say its a good idea.. A fresh start to a oh so very long thread.
maybe link the original thread also?

ipeench said:
I say its a good idea.. A fresh start to a oh so very long thread.
maybe link the original thread also?
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OP updated, Thanks.
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Thanks for the new thread it really helps outs. I'm just waiting until the V4G comes out to pull the trigger on the ffc.
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Alright, clean slate.
We need to search the old threads for the updates or latest 'news' of what has happened to this.
I'll take my part in searching certain post by KellyLewis on what progress he's done to this, along with other users.
Also, OP, we need an extra space for all the post that has attachments, you know how it is, everybody will start asking "where can i find that one attachment that fixes...etc." on this thread. We don't need that such.
I believe Siiral had a one stop shop for the attachments, and i think we can just link that up for that particular post?
What you think?

ndwgs said:
Alright, clean slate.
We need to search the old threads for the updates or latest 'news' of what has happened to this.
I'll take my part in searching certain post by KellyLewis on what progress he's done to this, along with other users.
Also, OP, we need an extra space for all the post that has attachments, you know how it is, everybody will start asking "where can i find that one attachment that fixes...etc." on this thread. We don't need that such.
I believe Siiral had a one stop shop for the attachments, and i think we can just link that up for that particular post?
What you think?
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Yeah I think it was the OP to second thread that had most of the attatchments.
I know I missed the i9000 camera apk. I couldnt find it from my phone, but it is included in that flashqble zip and SGS Tools.
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orells said:
Yeah I think it was the OP to second thread that had most of the attatchments.
I know I missed the i9000 camera apk. I couldnt find it from my phone, but it is included in that flashqble zip and SGS Tools.
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Ok im on board with the new thread. Im talking to my kernel dev as I write this on more things to try. The issue were having right now isnt banding well what were used to anyways. We have color lines at the moment like greens and blues, we got rid of the red and white so far. We get rid of one and create another.
If your feeling generous.
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=9LJGLQUYYDZR2

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Ok im on board with the new thread. Im talking to my kernel dev as I write this on more things to try. The issue were having right now isnt banding well what were used to anyways. We have color lines at the moment like greens and blues, we got rid of the red and white so far. We get rid of one and create another.
If your feeling generous.
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=9LJGLQUYYDZR2
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Thats awesome, I wish I had coding experience, but alas I'm only good for testing.
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I've a FFC mod, i'd like to know if it is possible to make a video call to a phone number, with no other application like tango or fring.
Thank's

As I have stated before I'm a amateur photographer and I have learned that in low light situations it is very important to understand that banding will always be a major hurdle. Since this is a "Fixed" lens, and the camera has no flash, post processing of video/pictures will IMO go the furthest with lessening/eliminating banding. Have you guys been able to find what (software) the I9000 uses for this? Can the Image Stabilization software be tweaked? ISO be increased or shutter speed be sped up. I know I am asking/presenting more problems than solutions but I really think that these are the key.

There's a nice little camera apk that can be flashed on page 149 of the main thread that could go in the op.
Fear the beard...

amwilliams9 said:
As I have stated before I'm a amateur photographer and I have learned that in low light situations it is very important to understand that banding will always be a major hurdle. Since this is a "Fixed" lens, and the camera has no flash, post processing of video/pictures will IMO go the furthest with lessening/eliminating banding. Have you guys been able to find what (software) the I9000 uses for this? Can the Image Stabilization software be tweaked? ISO be increased or shutter speed be sped up. I know I am asking/presenting more problems than solutions but I really think that these are the key.
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this is very true, as i am filmmaker and have been working with film for many years. if, like you say, it is an ISO problem, which it seems to be, it is all software, and we need to figure out how to let more light in, or somehow bring up the contrast (which might also fix the problem).
we need more light to go into the lens

We do need more light in the lens I took a video outside in the daytime and there was almost no banding only indoors or artificial lighting is where the banding is bad
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I'm on board as well, I did some work on grounding... succeeded in frying one camera, won't be so clumsy on the next.
I think it would help to incorporate some of the findings in one part of thread (op)
Then at least we can get rid of the redundancy and repetitive questions.
BTW my earlier Nikon DSLR's had banding issues as well in low light, so it is a common issue

has anyone been able to successfully swap out their vibrant (if necessary) with t-mobile after applying this mod? I have it done, and am thinking about trying the nail polish trick to see if i can get a replacement for dropped calls. just not sure if it will work.

ravigodhwani said:
has anyone been able to successfully swap out their vibrant (if necessary) with t-mobile after applying this mod? I have it done, and am thinking about trying the nail polish trick to see if i can get a replacement for dropped calls. just not sure if it will work.
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I did. Black finger nail polish works fine.
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blasian shadows said:
I did. Black finger nail polish works fine.
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really? i've been trying but no matter what i do it's still kind of obvious that something has been changed there when you look towards that corner

I have noticed that prior to displaying a photo with the gallery that there appears to be some processing of the picture. I am wondering if the I9000 does that prior to saving a picture to memory. Has anyone tried to import (hope that's the right term) that APK and seeing if it helps?

I returned my vibrant with this mod as well.. So far no extra fees other than shipping since I don't have insurance..
At first I used spray paint.. I spray painted a paper and collected enough paint to let ONE drop drip into the hole..and with a toothpick I spread it around.. But it wouldnt dry and once it did I missed a spot. It was a pain. But I think it works most effectively if done right.. When I returned it however, I just used the black nail polish mentioned before. It was soo obvious but it worked. Btw my camera had goo-gone IN it which made every picture blurry.. (why I returned it) plus my vibration didn't work so....
You should be good
ravigodhwani said:
really? i've been trying but no matter what i do it's still kind of obvious that something has been changed there when you look towards that corner
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RoZm X said:
I returned my vibrant with this mod as well.. So far no extra fees other than shipping since I don't have insurance..
At first I used spray paint.. I spray painted a paper and collected enough paint to let ONE drop drip into the hole..and with a toothpick I spread it around.. But it wouldnt dry and once it did I missed a spot. It was a pain. But I think it works most effectively if done right.. When I returned it however, I just used the black nail polish mentioned before. It was soo obvious but it worked. Btw my camera had goo-gone IN it which made every picture blurry.. (why I returned it) plus my vibration didn't work so....
You should be good
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awesome. thanks a lot! i found that using my sisters old mascara pen thing with a mixture of black nail polish did the trick. it's drying right now. will post back results in case anyone is wondering!

[SOLVED] Black GTALK

Hello everybody ...
Cud someone please give me a stepwise breakdown on if/how I could get gtalk to have a black theme
(or give me a link to a black gtalk apk that I could use to replace the stock one ) ?
I did search before posting this thread.. and found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821214
but that OP's just stating tht the gtalk app inside another ROM is black in color.
I'm sure this has been asked / done before, and if it has, please don't hammer me...
It's just that I am new to android, and some of the google results i got for 'black gtalk app' said some scary sounding things like deodexed (?)
And - I haven't rooted my Nexus S yet (yes, i know.. i'm a bit scared still.. )
Help please?

All you had to do is go to the second page.
On the second page of that thread posted by Jack_R1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821214&page=2
(Unsure if it works on Gingerbread)
And you'll most likely need Root for this to work since google talk is a .apk within /system/app/
/system/app/ cannot be modified unless you're rooted.
Rooting is relatively simple on Nexus S, don't be scared

zephiK said:
All you had to do is go to the second page.
On the second page of that thread posted by Jack_R1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821214&page=2
(Unsure if it works on Gingerbread)
And you'll most likely need Root for this to work since google talk is a .apk within /system/app/
/system/app/ cannot be modified unless you're rooted.
Rooting is relatively simple on Nexus S, don't be scared
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Uh-ohhh...you wouldn't believe the silly sheepish smile i have on my face now
woops...sorry for noticing that! :$
Since I will probably have to root my phone for this ... i'll wait to get one of my friends with more divine android skills to sit with me thru it
(don't ask -- years of "trying" to jailbreak iPhones has built up this weird phobia of hacking, and has put fears like: "oh noes! what if it goes wrong?" in my head)
I'll come around though, i hope
and thanks again, Zephik ...

abhilashraj said:
Uh-ohhh...you wouldn't believe the silly sheepish smile i have on my face now
woops...sorry for noticing that! :$
Since I will probably have to root my phone for this ... i'll wait to get one of my friends with more divine android skills to sit with me thru it
(don't ask -- years of "trying" to jailbreak iPhones has built up this weird phobia of hacking, and has put fears like: "oh noes! what if it goes wrong?" in my head)
I'll come around though, i hope
and thanks again, Zephik ...
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Haha okay. But if you don't want to wait for your "friend" to do it for you, here's a guide here to get you started towards rooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895545
It's relatively simple

Yes- thanx again! I've read through those a few times and all the positive responses from 'first timers' have been tempting me a lot.
I'm actually waiting for the phone to launch officially in Dubai (rumored to happen in the week after next), and then I think I'll become a bit more brave to fiddle with it..
but if i muster enough courage before that, I'll definitely follow that guide ..
(psst: please be on standby with some emergency XDA paramedics, in case you hear me yelping, after a not so successful rooting attempt )

abhilashraj said:
Yes- thanx again! I've read through those a few times and all the positive responses from 'first timers' have been tempting me a lot.
I'm actually waiting for the phone to launch officially in Dubai (rumored to happen in the week after next), and then I think I'll become a bit more brave to fiddle with it..
but if i muster enough courage before that, I'll definitely follow that guide ..
(psst: please be on standby with some emergency XDA paramedics, in case you hear me yelping, after a not so successful rooting attempt )
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You have any idea if it's going to be a I9020 or I9023? There's reports of I9023 rooting of not completely working. Something about cache partition, I'm sure it'll get fixed.

zephiK said:
You have any idea if it's going to be a I9020 or I9023? There's reports of I9023 rooting of not completely working. Something about cache partition, I'm sure it'll get fixed.
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I'm inclined to think it'll be the Super Clear LCD one .. because the Dubai/UAE market seems to be like a Singapore-market follower .. and the SLCD version has just been announced there..
The SAMOLED is partly why I'm happy that I went through some bit of trouble (and a LOT of worrying) to get my NexS delivered safely from Austin..
But boy am I in love with it!
I dont think anyone's been able to pry it out of my hands since it landed (touchwood)
And, like you said... I'm sure the i9023 would get rooted soon enough by folks here
[maybe Google could just officially link to the XDA as their main 'user support forum' .. ]

I was able to push the gtalk and the google voice to the Nexus S. I have it installed on the nightly cm7 #26. The google voice is working but the gtalk is failing to connect to the server.

i was able to install but it hangs on a black screen where my contacts should be but nothing displays. theres also the refresh circle in the top right that keeps going. then if i selct anything via menu button push and go back it force closes on me.

Can someone tell me why is it marked as SOLVED when it does not work on the nexus S? I want this feature badly, if anyone has any idea pls share.

miklosbard said:
Can someone tell me why is it marked as SOLVED when it does not work on the nexus S? I want this feature badly, if anyone has any idea pls share.
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I totally agree but there is a solution now for sure. DARKGINGER NEW 4/5/11 DarkGapps4511.zip this is just gapps for the people not using the nightlies. These work on any HDPI phone running Gingerbread! THIS HAS WORKING DARK GTALK.

jerrycycle said:
I totally agree but there is a solution now for sure. DARKGINGER NEW 4/5/11 DarkGapps4511.zip this is just gapps for the people not using the nightlies. These work on any HDPI phone running Gingerbread! THIS HAS WORKING DARK GTALK.
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wasnt very useful to state it and then not link it. here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935580

Sorry, didn't see the point when he has his own thread.

Menu button

Please tell me you can get rid of that ugly black bar menu button in apps. Is there a way to route the menu button to holding down the back button or something? This will decide if I buy the phone or not.

Yes it is possible but at the moment only of you root. The option was available in pre release software so it's always possible HTC will include the option in a future update.
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tdingene said:
Yes it is possible but at the moment only of you root. The option was available in pre release software so it's always possible HTC will include the option in a future update.
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Thanks, guess I won't be purchasing the phone.

brian85 said:
Thanks, guess I won't be purchasing the phone.
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That's awesome. Glad u made such a wise decision.
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Wow, not purchasing the phone due to that? Come on dude, please tell me you are not that anal retentive over something so small.
Then again what is small to me, might be huge to someone else.
Losing out on what looks to be an awesome phone and may even be fixed with a future OTA update..
Sent from a galaxy far away!

brian85 said:
Thanks, guess I won't be purchasing the phone.
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How can you not purchase the phone over a silly problem as that?? anyways rooting is an option also wait for htc to update it

It's not a dealbreaker to me but I understand that it can be for someone as it takes away some screen real estate. For the same reason software buttons are a dealbreaker to so many people.

Because its annoying and takes up real estate on a screen that is only 4.7". I'm confident it will be fixed via software update. But if would sure piss me off until then. Assuming this thing ever gets released I the US... I'll still buy
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CreepyDroid said:
It's not a dealbreaker to me but I understand that it can be for someone as it takes away some screen real estate. For the same reason software buttons are a dealbreaker to so many people.
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CraigP17 said:
Because its annoying and takes up real estate on a screen that is only 4.7". I'm confident it will be fixed via software update. But if would sure piss me off until then. Assuming this thing ever gets released I the US... I'll still buy
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Both of these. It's annoying as hell and I don't want to "hack" my phone to get rid of it.
I'll wait and see if the US models have the option to get rid of it at launch. If not, different phone for me (I'm not going to wait for a software update that could "possibly" happen).

: Menu button
flyaway9000 said:
How can you not purchase the phone over a silly problem as that?? anyways rooting is an option also wait for htc to update it
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Honestly... If this was the only new phone coming to the market this year your argument might make sense. I dunno his opinion but for me. I like having a consistent menu button and not having onscreen buttons... Now when you have this and the galaxy s IV among other phones coming out or currently out... And like some of the stuff with each, and one has something that you know aggravates you, it could be enough to send you to a different phone.
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I am the one who made the mod to remove that menu button on the screen and reverted back the option to map it on the back button. Apparently it's just a bug and they did not remove it. So expect it to be fixed/back on the next standard update when the phone is already released globally.
brian85 said:
Both of these. It's annoying as hell and I don't want to "hack" my phone to get rid of it.
I'll wait and see if the US models have the option to get rid of it at launch. If not, different phone for me (I'm not going to wait for a software update that could "possibly" happen).
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brian85 said:
Thanks, guess I won't be purchasing the phone.
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I thought exactly the same way and even cancelled my pre-order because of that but after playing around with a mates HTC One I was like.... woah this ain't as bad as I thought it would be and ordered one again a couple of days later.
Trust me with the screen as big as it is you end up with the same usable space with the menu bar as the Nexus 4 and I am sure a firmware fix will be coming in the future and/or apps will be updated to match the google guidelines (facebook are you seeing this!!!)
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Riyal said:
I am the one who made the mod to remove that menu button on the screen and reverted back the option to map it on the back button. Apparently it's just a bug and they did not remove it. So expect it to be fixed/back on the next standard update when the phone is already released globally.
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Where did you hear it's just a bug and you expect it will be fixed in the next update?

Like I said I was the one who made that mod in the development section. Obviously I already know how it functions/why it's not showing up in the menu/why it's not working in the stock ROM. And the whole code was in there and intact. It was just not updated so it's not showing itself in the menu options.
If I translate the code in english language it goes like this.
Back menu option: Hey are you "HTC One-debug"?
HTC One: No I am "HTC One"
Back menu option: Sorry then you can't use me I'm only available on a device named "HTC One-debug" not "HTC One"
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So what I did was
HTC One: Hi!
Back menu option: Enough talk! Just use me.
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Sounds stupid if you're not a programmer but really! That's whats happening there! lol
daleski75 said:
I thought exactly the same way and even cancelled my pre-order because of that but after playing around with a mates HTC One I was like.... woah this ain't as bad as I thought it would be and ordered one again a couple of days later.
Trust me with the screen as big as it is you end up with the same usable space with the menu bar as the Nexus 4 and I am sure a firmware fix will be coming in the future and/or apps will be updated to match the google guidelines (facebook are you seeing this!!!)
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Where did you hear it's just a bug and you expect it will be fixed in the next update?
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Riyal said:
Like I said I was the one who made that mod in the development section. Obviously I already know how it functions/why it's not showing up in the menu/why it's not working in the stock ROM. And the whole code was in there and intact. It was just not updated so it's not showing itself in the menu options.
If I translate the code in english language it goes like this.
So what I did was
Sounds stupid if you're not a programmer but really! That's whats happening there! lol
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I asked about where did you hear the information about the fix in the next update not kiddie speak for explaining how you fixed the issue.

1. Properly designed apps that use Google's design framework will have an in-app menu button. So no black menu bar. Vast majority of apps now won't require the black bar.
2. HTC got rid of it on the One X when user feedback said they wanted it gone. I see no reason to assume they won't do it again if enough people say they don't want it.

Like I said it's just a minor bug. HTC just skipped updating this one piece of code for it to work on the production units.
Meh! I give up! lol
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I asked about where did you hear the information about the fix in the next update not kiddie speak for explaining how you fixed the issue.
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daleski75 said:
I asked about where did you hear the information about the fix in the next update not kiddie speak for explaining how you fixed the issue.
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He was merely explaining how the bug worked to point out that mapping Menu to Long-Back option is, actually, meant to still be there. HTC simply forgot to make sure that scripts in all places were talking about the same device.
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I know it's a bug and how he fixed it but let me quote what he said...
Apparently it's just a bug and they did not remove it. So expect it to be fixed/back on the next standard update when the phone is already released globally.
Was this bit just guessing or is it from a well known source??

JesseMT4G said:
Wow, not purchasing the phone due to that? Come on dude, please tell me you are not that anal retentive over something so small.
Then again what is small to me, might be huge to someone else.
Losing out on what looks to be an awesome phone and may even be fixed with a future OTA update..
Sent from a galaxy far away!
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Flaming isnt necessary really
People use their phone differently, its the same reason why theres never a "best rom" or a rom with the "best battery life"
And to the other comments, its likely not to be patched so that they have more reasons to sell a "developer" version

I may have a bad news related on HTC to bring back button remapping options.
Just saw engadget chinese mention in their HTC One review about that Google MIGHT be the force behind that lead to HTC sudden removal the remapping option from HTC One's newer ROM because Google insisting the menu button must somehow be 'observable' on sight.
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Keylime Pie instead of Kit Kat!

So I finally get my Spanking new Nexus 5 this morning I switch it on and its running Keylime Pie?!!?! WHY? whats going on? Phone was sealed in box brand new i'm shocked

Slorks said:
So I finally get my Spanking new Nexus 5 this morning I switch it on and its running Keylime Pie?!!?! WHY? whats going on? Phone was sealed in box brand new i'm shocked
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Interesting. DO A BACK UP and upload the rom. I wonder if there are some goodies in there?

Kernel build date is different too. Mine says October 22nd
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egofreak said:
Interesting. DO A BACK UP and upload the rom. I wonder if there are some goodies in there?
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Its horrible its laggy buggy and everything force closes i was lucky i got a screen shot in.

Slorks said:
Its horrible its laggy buggy and everything force closes i was lucky i got a screen shot in.
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There could still be goodies?
Still interesting. Whats the build number on that phone? Sounds like you have one that either missed getting updated before being shipped, or an old one from the back of the store room. Who knows, might have the code for "Always listening" Google now hiding under all the bugs?

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There could still be goodies?
Still interesting. Whats the build number on that phone? Sounds like you have one that either missed getting updated before being shipped, or an old one from the back of the store room. Who knows, might have the code for "Always listening" Google now hiding under all the bugs?
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its all up there in that one screen shot i put in build number and everything.
I emailed the seller waiting to either return it or just update it myself.

Well, I came into this thread expecting completely different results.
OP, do a system dump and upload it. Maybe there are some goodies on there that we can use. It seems you've got your hands on a test/debug build of Android. Does the phone hardware look like it should? "nexus" printed on the back, area where the IMEI sticker should be, etc.?

Johmama said:
Well, I came into this thread expecting completely different results.
OP, do a system dump and upload it. Maybe there are some goodies on there that we can use. It seems you've got your hands on a test/debug build of Android. Does the phone hardware look like it should? "nexus" printed on the back, area where the IMEI sticker should be, etc.?
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yup its legit sticker on the screen IMEI sticker on the back i switch it on and the boot animation was from the first build of ICS only it was cropped in the middle of the screen then to my surprise i'm running Keylime pie. Ive never done a system dump before i'm on this other thread now figuring out how to flash stock kit kat. It's frustrating. You're like "this is not what i paid for" you know?

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yup its legit sticker on the screen IMEI sticker on the back i switch it on and the boot animation was from the first build of ICS only it was cropped in the middle of the screen then to my surprise i'm running Keylime pie. Ive never done a system dump before i'm on this other thread now figuring out how to flash stock kit kat. It's frustrating. You're like "this is not what i paid for" you know?
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Maybe don't buy a brand-new device second-hand.
That's always a bad sign. Either the device had issues and they're too lazy to return it or it's fake...possibly they don't like it but there's probably reasoning behind that to merit immediately selling a $400 phone a week max after receiving it.

That's REALLY strange. Kinda cool. I think you got a test device.
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Maybe don't buy a brand-new device second-hand.
That's always a bad sign. Either the device had issues and they're too lazy to return it or it's fake...possibly they don't like it but there's probably reasoning behind that to merit immediately selling a $400 phone a week max after receiving it.
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Where did you see he got it second hand?

Interesting. Under "Model Number" it also says "AOSP on Hammerhead". Also why would it say "KeyLimePie" instead of an actual number like "4.4" under Android Version. Something odd is going on here.

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its all up there in that one screen shot i put in build number and everything.
I emailed the seller waiting to either return it or just update it myself.
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Hold up on that. At least do a system dump first.
If you don't know how use this guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380797
If you don't have the android SDK go here and download the platform tools attached in the 8th comment and open command line there then follow that guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33510112
Also you need to enable android debugging.
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Going to also say "Do a system dump" simply because A) You seem to be one of the very "lucky" few to have an older device and B) Who knows what kind of things are hiding in that system image.
I mean, its your phone and you paid for it so I don't blame you for wanting to just flash KitKat onto it. However, that system image could benefit the development community somehow. Either way, this is really interesting.

Looks like a test build for sure - if you google sangjoon84.lee you'll find that kernel build referenced in all the FCC info and prior N5 leaks.

Don´t update it for Pete´s sake, that might be a treasure! "Early Development device" ...in 10 years that´s gonna be worth something on ebay!

netsyd said:
Looks like a test build for sure - if you google sangjoon84.lee you'll find that kernel build referenced in all the FCC info and prior N5 leaks.
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I just checked that aswell. It's weird though because other mentions of it have KyeLimePie whereas this screenshot shows it spelt correctly.
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This isn't the first time a non shipping build came with a nexus phone.
In fact, all of our N5's shipped with key lime pie. It just forced an update at setup.
The reason why this didn't update is its not in an OTA path. Its a test build.
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OP if you are willing to dump the system image for us here are some easy steps on doing that.
Download the Android tools here
All you have to do is dump the contents of the zip onto your C: directory. Enable USB debugging on your phone and plug it in via USB. Then open CMD prompt and type:
CD C:\
You should then see
C:\
Now just type:
adb.exe pull /system/
This will dump the image which you can then zip and share later if you wanted. I would advise doing a dump seeing as how this is extremely rare. Again though, its your call.

Is it already unlocked? Would be wild if this was just some Google employee's test device for a couple weeks or simmering!
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Yup, my device as I am sure everyone else's here aksed for an immediate update once it booted up so who knows what was there before.

LG Please know we hate this. Let us turn this annoying feature off

This right here pisses me off
Sick of this damn call timer when trying to use other apps during a call.

Although that there isnt the main reason why I'm getting rid of this phone, I'll go ahead and add it to the ever growing list of reasons why I'm dumping it and getting a Nexus 6. Screw LG and their locked down pile of garbage. Sad thing is, it's so much wasted potential.

I love it when a new device comes out, and XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts about "this" or "that" which users say they 'hate' or 'can't stand'. Okay, so there's no publicized root method yet, deemed safe for consumerism, but once that's released I'm sure that every little quarky nuance will have a method to remove, hide, or alter in some way. The call timer has an option for hiding in the LG G3 via G3 Tweaksbox. With that example, I stand confident that this phone will have some type of similarities to, as I mentioned, "deal" with the things people complain about. Fact is, this phone is not impressively different from the G3, and there are no real profoundly engineered improvements made in the G4. You may ask, "Apex, y u bye did fone den?" Good question. My answer is this, I like LG's products and I appreciate the work developers are able to do, in order to make something good, great. So, in the meamtime, until root is available, you won't hear me having a hissy fit about (insert whatever) things. Samsung isn't for me, HTC is bunk, Motorola, well... been there, done that. I think most folks would respect those complaints be made on Reddit, or somewhere besides the place that developers afford us the grace of enjoying what they do for the community, free of charge.
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painedglass said:
Although that there isnt the main reason why I'm getting rid of this phone, I'll go ahead and add it to the ever growing list of reasons why I'm dumping it and getting a Nexus 6. Screw LG and their locked down pile of garbage. Sad thing is, it's so much wasted potential.
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locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me

lobo4806 said:
locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
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TWRP now too.. ROMS will be flowing soon.

Meh, I left the steaming pile of hardware failures that is a Nexus 6 for the G4. Volume rockers stopped working on the first one, new phone had screen issues, ya, the N6 isn't the greatest phone ever.

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locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
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It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.

painedglass said:
It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
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Angry much?

painedglass said:
It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
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Because clicking a check box to unlock the bootloader is so hard. Root takes time on all modern devices.

Hahaha... Now root being available, I've installed debloated ROM and 3000mah battery serves me really well. Not to mention boost in speed as well. On stock ROM, I was missing my nexus 5 so much.
I hope you stuck around for a little longer. Feels like beasty phone just got injected with the steroid.
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Agreed....I was fed up with this phone.....root came and glory glory amen it's a better phone. Even with just a simple debloated ROM....can't wait till they really tweak the stock ROM like crazy. I probably won't go aosp....because of the camera app...whole reason I bought the phone...it deletes the side car RAW file in the default gallery aosp can't do that...neither can manual camera app or Fv5
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The thermal throttling and stuff needs some crazy tweaking...and a better kernel...my apps have to re draw too much...memory leak somewhere

Kingaries79 said:
This right here pisses me off
Sick of this damn call timer when trying to use other apps during a call.
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I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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mawells787 said:
I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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this is gold. i dont have a tmobile version, but thanks!!! ahh boo the side effect to this is that when someone calls, you dont see the answer/decline dialog and the notification bar doesnt work

ExTREmE99 said:
this is gold. i dont have a tmobile version, but thanks!!! ahh boo the side effect to this is that when someone calls, you dont see the answer/decline dialog and the notification bar doesnt work
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I checked and I still get the dialog box, make sure the option is checked in the call settings. I'm not sure what you mean about the notification bar, but I can drag down and click on the call, which brings me back to the call.
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mawells787 said:
I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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Thanks for this

Seems like a really silly reason to get rid of an otherwise awesome phone...

What's funny is that the current root methods as dangerous as they are. Are no more dangerous then when I had my Evo4g, and that team didn't have something like "OEM Unlock" to make it easier. No risk, no reward.

Not to mention that you can drag that icon anywhere on the screen so i dont see how it can be so intrucive during other app usage. Also why dont you just talk on the phone, your on a call, pay attention and stop playing with other apps, real easy
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Apex said:
I love it when a new device comes out, and XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts about "this" or "that" which users say they 'hate' or 'can't stand'. Okay, so there's no publicized root method yet, deemed safe for consumerism, but once that's released I'm sure that every little quarky nuance will have a method to remove, hide, or alter in some way. The call timer has an option for hiding in the LG G3 via G3 Tweaksbox. With that example, I stand confident that this phone will have some type of similarities to, as I mentioned, "deal" with the things people complain about. Fact is, this phone is not impressively different from the G3, and there are no real profoundly engineered improvements made in the G4. You may ask, "Apex, y u bye did fone den?" Good question. My answer is this, I like LG's products and I appreciate the work developers are able to do, in order to make something good, great. So, in the meamtime, until root is available, you won't hear me having a hissy fit about (insert whatever) things. Samsung isn't for me, HTC is bunk, Motorola, well... been there, done that. I think most folks would respect those complaints be made on Reddit, or somewhere besides the place that developers afford us the grace of enjoying what they do for the community, free of charge.
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your point is?
Would you be so kind as to elaborate on
XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts
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