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Samsung Smart TV vs Sony Internet TV

Hi, I'm going to get a new TV soon..
If you have one if the above, please do leave me a comment...
I'm interested on Getting a TV, probably a Samsung smart TV, 46" 600hz or 800hz model (L7 or L8).
Since Google TV is so amazing, I'd like to buy the separate box for my smart TV, my problem is will it work on smart TV?
Thanks!
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A friend of mine has the Samsung Smart TV 46" LED 3D 800Hz, and it's simply amazing. He also got a pair of 3D glasses and the Samsung Galaxy 5 when he bought it, so you can use the 5" tablet as a remote, stream directly from the TV to the tab (if you're in another room for example) and so on. The only "downside" is that it doesn't look like a 46" since the bezel is almost nonexistent so i would go for the 55".
I haven't tested the Sony, so i can't really say if it's better, but the Samsung is the best i've seen.

I have a samsung 46inch smart led tv
and i love it, as for google tv, i think its a waste of money as the samsung smart tv has more apps to download and is much prettier interface.
I was not impressed by google tv, too boring and limited
If you really want to be able to stream internet to your tv get an hdmi cable or vga or what ever or get an hdmi wireless hp tv connect.
Then you wont have limitations of what sites and videos you can stream.
Just my 2 cents

melvinchng said:
Hi, I'm going to get a new TV soon..
If you have one if the above, please do leave me a comment...
I'm interested on Getting a TV, probably a Samsung smart TV, 46" 600hz or 800hz model (L7 or L8).
Since Google TV is so amazing, I'd like to buy the separate box for my smart TV, my problem is will it work on smart TV?
Thanks!
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As I remeber when it comes to TV now Samsung produces very good products. I myself know this, because I recently bought a new TV and it was Samsung, between 600 and 800MHz there is no difference in the image quality. AFAIK Google hasn't released info. about Google TV, but I'm not 100% sure .

Samsung.
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I've got a Samsung LN52B630, and it's a great TV, especially the versatility of the built in media player.

Have the 400hz 55" one, simply amazing
Max. (From my Galaxy 2)

MacaronyMax said:
Have the 400hz 55" one, simply amazing
Max. (From my Galaxy 2)
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Where do u find the hz number?

davidrules7778 said:
Where do u find the hz number?
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Check the word "motion"...
Yeah, taking my nexus s as a TV remote is cool...
Google TV (Sony) has 1000000:1 ratio, but I can't find any in Samsung. And Google TV module runs on android apps, I'll check this out in store tomorrow.
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melvinchng said:
Check the word "motion"...
Yeah, taking my nexus s as a TV remote is cool...
Google TV (Sony) has 1000000:1 ratio, but I can't find any in Samsung. And Google TV module runs on android apps, I'll check this out in store tomorrow.
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That must be a non us thing cause all the tbsp I've looked at max out at 240hz the must measure it differently in other countries
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davidrules7778 said:
That must be a non us thing cause all the tbsp I've looked at max out at 240hz the must measure it differently in other countries
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The 240w is the input power... 50/60hz.
The one we are saying is motion... 600hz or 800hz.check out Samsung site and you will know it.
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Just buy a plasma or a dlp. No worries about refresh rates.

120hz/240hz used sparingly, adds depth and realism to the picture.
I'll never go back to a 60Hz TV.

Smart TV is quite Cool... should be very cool
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Internet TV is cool but it would be very hard to play on a remote controller, they must give away some keyboard along with the tv also.
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Bought a Samsung led smart TV 46" 600hz yesterday. Will ship when I'm back from my vacation next week. The 800hz model is not available in my country
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New TV with New Cable Connection
Hi,
I had just buy Sony flatron and enjoying it. One of my friend had suggest me for that and he also suggested for cable tv online. I opted cable tv online also and believe me it is realy very good.

We have a Samsung 42' LCD TV and the picture quality is excellent so i would choose Samsung.

melvinchng said:
Bought a Samsung led smart TV 46" 600hz yesterday. Will ship when I'm back from my vacation next week. The 800hz model is not available in my country
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Are you sure that's not a Plasma you've got there ?
600hz is a refresh rate for Plasma TV's. (not LED)
What is the model # of your Samsung ?

TravisBean said:
Are you sure that's not a Plasma you've got there ?
600hz is a refresh rate for Plasma TV's. (not LED)
What is the model # of your Samsung ?
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Thank you!!!
Thats what i was wondering about those refresh rates
My led is 120hz which is pretty damn good cause most devices hooked up to it can only do 60hz
Computer is an exception going up to 75hz

Nexus 7 tv out?

Do they sell an Hdmi cable that is compatible with this tab so I can connect it to my tv?
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Last I read, the Nexus 7 didn't have MHL capabilities.

I believe this function was going to be added through the use of Nexus Q & Google TV systems. However that's officially on the back burner.
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Have a look at the video in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1874757

I am not sure if u can stream via hdmi fom nexus to TV, but if it is possible this is the cable u would need.
HDMI to Micro Type D

Not mhl compatible, but maybe a future dock will have that.
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the future dock would still require the tablet to be mhl capable, therefore no, there is no and will be no way to directly plug the tablet into a television, what there is hope for is streaming via a nexus q device.

Hey folks, I'm new here. Have been lurking a bit.
I've been bugging Nexus support staff about features/upcoming features.. as I'd expected, they're pretty hush-hush
One guy even fibbed to me, saying that a USB OTG cable and peripherals such as keyboard, mouse, usb drives.. will not work with the Nexus, even if I unlock it. Maybe he just didn't know any better.
Anyhow, I love this little device, but the lack of tv-out in the form of display mirroring is flat-out pissing me off.
I'm not experienced with coding for android devices by any means, but I did have an idea. (If Nvidia doesn't certify Nexus 7 for Miracast sometime in the near future.. it IS a tegra 3 device, so I'm hoping they do. It may be the solution to our problem.)
...This idea could be too fantastic to be a realistic possibility, but I thought it was worth a share..
What if an apk could "trick" the protocol for displaying video via wifi on droid devices?
What if the receiver could detect the incoming signal as a video file, and the app on the device could trick the nexus (or other non-MHL droid device) into treating the screen display as a video file?
Since the latency between displaying video on the Nexus and displaying it on a television via wifi isn't bad (from what I know), it COULD be practical enough for gaming, if it were done correctly.
TL;DR, the app would screen-capture the display, and send it to a receiver as if it were a compatible video file.
Am I just speaking fantasy-talk? Is this feasible? Thoughts?

The tegra3 has wifi streaming similar to apples airplay. The receivers just aren't out yet. Reading up that tmobiles SGIII will have a premium pack with some kind of aircard device that streams video over wifi for $99.
I think we are also waiting on Dlink. You can already do this with a rasberryPi for a good DYI solution.
I'm waiting for someone to make a box and a roku channel that captures streams on the network.
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nemrel said:
I believe this function was going to be added through the use of Nexus Q & Google TV systems. However that's officially on the back burner.
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Right...with the N7 as a controller/interface to drive the Q.

nexus 7 =199
nexus q 299

Guys, have a look at this : http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-for-the-nexus-7-and-the-raspberry-pi/
Seems great but the only problem I see is that it requires to install a custom rom to use it.

jeekajoo said:
Guys, have a look at this : http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-for-the-nexus-7-and-the-raspberry-pi/
Seems great but the only problem I see is that it requires to install a custom rom to use it.
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You can be onto something here....any Dev wanna check this out?
Quick question, where do you even buy a Rasberry Pi?

Cl8rs said:
Quick question, where do you even buy a Rasberry Pi?
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RS Components or Farnell/Element14
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costipl said:
RS Components or Farnell/Element14
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If stay away from RS as they have had huge problems shipping product, any of the Farnell companies have been ok.
I've got two of them, one originally for the Android Transporter..
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krelvinaz said:
If stay away from RS as they have had huge problems shipping product, any of the Farnell companies have been ok.
I've got two of them, one originally for the Android Transporter..
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yep and Raspberry Pi are now shipped with RAM upgraded to 512MB (from 256MB), same price ($35).
http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/15/ra...d-to-512mb-from-256mb-same-tiny-35-price-tag/

what about this ? it's a fake ??
http://docteur-gsm.com/es/asus-goog...l-microusb-hdmi-para-asus-google-nexus-7.html

Januka said:
what about this ? it's a fake ??
http://docteur-gsm.com/es/asus-goog...l-microusb-hdmi-para-asus-google-nexus-7.html
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Very interesting,
would be nice if anyone could report whether it's working or not.

Januka said:
what about this ? it's a fake ??
http://docteur-gsm.com/es/asus-goog...l-microusb-hdmi-para-asus-google-nexus-7.html
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Someone really needs to test this !

Wilks3y said:
Someone really needs to test this !
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The german translation is honest: you need an MHL-Device to use this adapter. As we know the nexus 7 isn't configured with one. It won't work.

OMG! someone needs to make a video like this using the Nexus 4 as a desktop computer!

He is using a Galaxy Note in the video but it seems easy right?
- HDMI to a monitor
- Bluetooth mouse
- Bluetooth keyboard
Seems like an awesome idea to me. Use the Nexus 4 as your mobile device when your outside of the house and when you come back home and need a desktop to work on just plug in your Nexus 4 and start. Finally PC free. One device to rule them all :victory:
Anyone else going to try this with the Nexus 4 when it comes out? I know I sure want to but I'm not sure if the Nexus 4 works with bluetooth mice the same way the Galaxy Note does Galaxy Nexus users would probably know.

I can confirm that the Galaxy Nexus works with a bluetooth mouse and keyboard. I have used my phone as a "desktop computer" when I was on a vacation.
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jkoljo said:
I can confirm that the Galaxy Nexus works with a bluetooth mouse and keyboard. I have used my phone as a "desktop computer" when I was on a vacation.
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Thank you for letting me know! :good:
Makes me really happy to hear that. I don't really need PC programs so I love the idea of using a smartphone as my one and only computer :highfive:

The Nexus 4 uses Slimport HDMI, according to the specifications it allows HDMI output and USB-otg at the same time!! This means there will be docks with HDMI out and several USB-ports (at least I hope there will be).
So you can connect a monitor USB keyboards, mice and harddrives all at the same time!
Edit: I might have gotten a little too exited and misinterpreted the data sheet.
Simultanious HDMI output and USB-otg might not be possible after all.
http://www.analogix.com/products/slimport.html

cheers to hoping for the first device that has ubuntu for android and a dock

Embrace the future my friends, Google is far sited as well as near
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I do the same atm with my one x, only problem I can see is the lack of mhl will make it more expensive
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I'm expecting/hoping canonical will release ubuntu for android for the nexus 4

With miracast, charching orb and BT keyboard/mouse combo, you can do this totally wireless and cooler and pricy.

I would have thought a tablet would be better because of tablet-optimised apps. If you wanted to do office-type work, the tablet versions of office suites makes much better use of the screen real-estate.

You can achieve the same result with most 'modern' smartphones that support HDMI out. It's a neat little trick, I use it a lot with my tablet. I think someone above mentioned the tablet apps are better - and this is definitely true at my end. Far more suited to a telly.
So as this can be prescribed to pretty much any phone, I'll go ahead and close it here. Give it a shot though - definitely worth doing.
Just for curiosity's sake, Samsung have released a dock for the Note 2 to make the most out of this. Provides not only HDMI out, but also full-sized USB ports for peripherals and 3.5mm audio-out. I'm waiting for it to hit :good:
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Wireless Display (Miracast)

Has anyone actually managed to make the Nexus 4 Wireless Display option work? Not much info around the web on it. Mainly people failing miserably.
I have an LG TV (47LM6610) which (apparently) supports "Screen Share" and it detects the Nexus 4, sends it an invite, I accept on the Nexus, the TV shows the Nexus as a connected device but the Nexus still shows nothing in its Wireless Display devices list.
Tried everything! Have emailed LG support and they were pretty dismissive and simply confirmed that it "should work". Sent an enquiry to Google support but not holding my breath.
Anyone had any luck with this or is it yet another half baked feature?
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Depends whether it's half baked on the TV or the phone
What happens often with these new standards is nobody talks to each other so they all implement it slightly differently.

Hilarious (or sad?) that one of the Nexus 4's major features gets released without a single compatible device?! Even when using two devices from the same manufacturer.
I'd love to hear a success story but I highly doubt there is one out there.
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kostodo said:
Hilarious (or sad?) that one of the Nexus 4's major features gets released without a single compatible device?! Even when using two devices from the same manufacturer.
I'd love to hear a success story but I highly doubt there is one out there.
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Neither sad nor hilarious, just a classical case of the technological forerunner. Happened to pretty much every nontrivial technology. Some (like bluetooth profiles) did not overcome their problems till this day.
Regarding LG, their TV branch does not necessary even talk to the smartphone branch, much less to google.

Hopefully we'll see some proper miracast sinks sooner rather than later - at least there's demonstration videos showing up lately, that should be a good sign?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL14GaqzIUw
Latency seems quite good from what I can tell. I also like form factor!
Now the dropped frames on the other hand.. I guess the source is to blame? Let's see if the Nexus 4 does a better job at that

kostodo said:
Hilarious (or sad?) that one of the Nexus 4's major features gets released without a single compatible device?! Even when using two devices from the same manufacturer.
I'd love to hear a success story but I highly doubt there is one out there.
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Obviously one product needs to be released before the other, especially one sided puts pressure to get implemented on the other side. Also its a software technology so that it's made by lg has no relevance whatsoever.
As far as I remember, Bluetooth existed on handsets long before anything used it. also TV software is a new thing, can't expect it to launch with that much implementation with phones when synergy between phones and TVs really has only been around for around two years or so.
Besides, when miracast was announced it was clear it was not backward compatible.

I've ordered the Netgear PTV3000 even that still have some bugs but I think they will update the firmware to connect with Nexus 4. There is a YouTube demonstrate it can work with Sony Phone that is Miracast support.
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Netgear PTV3000 does not yet support Nexus 4 yet.
And that's my point, not a single device supports the Nexus 4 it seems.
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kostodo said:
Netgear PTV3000 does not yet support Nexus 4 yet.
And that's my point, not a single device supports the Nexus 4 it seems.
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It is actually the other way round: Netgear PTV3000 is not known to properly support Miracast yet.
Here is a list of certified Miracast receivers:
http://certifications.wi-fi.org/search_products.php?search=1&advanced=1&lang=en&filter_company_id=&filter_category_id=&filter_subcategory=&filter_cid=&date_from=&date_to=&selected_certifications[]=69&x=56&y=12
and Netgear PTV3000 is nowhere to be seen. The same for LG TV sets.
Netgear themselves says:
*PTV3000 supports pre-standard compliant Miracast™ wireless enabled display devices.
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I also have an lg TV and yea it doesn't work . sees it but no . lol I guess its not miracast ? I haven't seen that word in the instructions anywhere
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But LG TVs do mention WiFi Screen Share and WiDi. Its unlikely that they would mention Miracast as its not a very marketing friendly.
I suppose its for LG to clarify...
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WiDi is Intel's standard, it supports Miracast as of version 3.5.
If it doesn't say Miracast, then assume it's not compatible.

Rusty! said:
WiDi is Intel's standard, it supports Miracast as of version 3.5.
If it doesn't say Miracast, then assume it's not compatible.
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Yes, WiDi v3.5 was announced just recently in last september.
Which means current LG TVs are likely to sport older WiDi versions which are not miracast compatible and won't connect to Nexus4 (or any other Miracast device for that matter).

Dying to find out
This is probably my most desired feature on this handset having tried for years to create software and services that would do it on all my other phones.
My flatmate has an HTC MediaLink HD, and from what I understand from the protocols and how that works, using wifi direct etc and seeing the screen mirroring work on his One X, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work with the N4, but I guess only time will tell - yep, still waiting for my "order confirmation" to be turned into a "tracking email"
As soon as I get it and tried it out I'll post back.

Use iMediaShare!

I have the Samsung Allshare Wireless Hub. It does not work with the Nexus 4. It pairs, but will not display audio/video at all.

Isn't it funny how the 3 new "standards" the N4 is pushing aren't really that universal?
Devices claiming Miracast devices don't work with the N4, yet
The Nokia Qi Chargers don't work with the Nexus 4
Slimport isn't as ubiquitous as MHL

That does DLNA not Miracast.
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DLNA is merely a "file fetcher". A network drive interface.
Don't get me wrong that is extremely useful. I download torrents on my phone and play them on my TV all day. But you know what? I'd actually buy most movies and shows I watch if I could mirror Google TV to my TV. No, I am not gonna buy a box for that, it defeats the purpose to me. I'd buy blu-rays if I wanted to use extra hookups.

ericshmerick said:
I have the Samsung Allshare Wireless Hub. It does not work with the Nexus 4. It pairs, but will not display audio/video at all.
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damn, I was hoping it would work. I have the allshare hub for my Note 10.1.

Why get this

Why get this over devices that run Android and have hdmi ports for the same price that you can use wifi or wireless keyboards?
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derrickmd18 said:
Why get this over devices that run Android and have hdmi ports for the same price that you can use wifi or wireless keyboards?
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As of right now, if you can find an android stick for 35 bucks with the horsepower to play HD netflix, and stream HD content from the net, then there really is no reason. Right now it is very limited, but since I got in on the netflix deal it only cost 11 bucks so it's well worth it to wait and see.
The only thing you're really losing with other sticks(assuming you get a good one), is the Chrome tab share. that's about all I'm using mine for right now.
I think shortly it will be a bit more useful in that it will be integrated with many other apps that you can use your phone as a controller and send video and other content to chromecast, but still a lot of that you can do with some setup on a decent android.
I'll re-iterate that you need to make sure you find a stick that can handle 1080p high def video playback or you really are wasting your money.

The big advantage for me is ease of use. It's much easier to search using the touchscreen on my phone and tap the cast button than to navigate a touchscreen interface using a wireless keyboard to pick out something to watch.

derrickmd18 said:
Why get this over devices that run Android and have hdmi ports for the same price that you can use wifi or wireless keyboards?
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The biggest reason if it is really easy to use if you have an Android phone/tablet and nothing else is 35 bucks or less. Even if nothing else is added, being able to easily cast a YouTube/Netflix video from my phone is worth 35 bucks to me.
Since Google blocked 3rd party apps recently, I think bigger "traditional media" like HBO Go and Hulu+ will release support for their apps so it will make it more useful soon.

Here's one reason: The dog no longer trips over the HDMI cable.

TabGuy said:
Here's one reason: The dog no longer trips over the HDMI cable.
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Yeah instead he trips over the usb cable.

derrickmd18 said:
Why get this over devices that run Android and have hdmi ports for the same price that you can use wifi or wireless keyboards?
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It fits in your pocket and only costs $35 for a new tech gadget and costs less than a wireless keyboard.
If you don't know why to buy it then save your $35 or check out the listed features on Google play and see if it helps your mission.
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I love the fact that my friends can just play youtube videos from their phone without any setup. We have a blast using this feature. As long as they are on your home network they don't need to setup anything to play videos.

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Yeah instead he trips over the usb cable.
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Uh, no. The USB cable is in back of the TV. The HDMI cable went from the TV to the laptop on the couch.

TabGuy said:
Uh, no. The USB cable is in back of the TV. The HDMI cable went from the TV to the laptop on the couch.
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AHH but the OP was asking why he'd buy this over an android stick.

Price + Google = popular