I'm just wondering, is it better to use auto data on/off apps to save battery or just leave it open always. Because auto on/off apps wakes up the CPU in deep sleep and it causes more battery usage than sleep mode. Leaving the data always on doesn't wakes up the phone until a notification or app update but otherwise, it causes battery usage to keep data on. I can't decide what to do and I can't see a clear difference between them. So, which is better?
I don't know much about technical, but based on my experience, with data always on but Juice Defender set to switch on data every 15 minutes interval will save battery better than leaving it always on
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One of the main powerdrains for the Streak 7 is the 4G Radio. It's constantly seeking a connection, which burns through juice rather quickly.
An app that helps with this is SwitchPro Widget...it gives you different toggle switches you can place on desktop to control aspects of your device.
I have a reboot button, battery indicator, wifi toggle and Data toggle on screen currently.
The Data toggle will turn off 4G/3G connection until you want to use it. I haven't had it running long enough to give feedback numbers as of yet, but will post some info later on.
https://market.android.com/details?id=alei.switchpro
Try it out.
Update: Also Airplane Mode toggle switch seems to work better at turning off cell standby, which shows 75% usage on battery.
2.5 Hours Unplugged now, and using Airplane mode has dropped my Cell standby to 51% usage vs 75% previously. I'm at 92% battery with decent usage during that time.
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One of the main powerdrains for the Streak 7 is the 4G Radio. It's constantly seeking a connection, which burns through juice rather quickly.
An app that helps with this is SwitchPro Widget...it gives you different toggle switches you can place on desktop to control aspects of your device.
I have a reboot button, battery indicator, wifi toggle and Data toggle on screen currently.
The Data toggle will turn off 4G/3G connection until you want to use it. I haven't had it running long enough to give feedback numbers as of yet, but will post some info later on.
https://market.android.com/details?id=alei.switchpro
Try it out.
Update: Also Airplane Mode toggle switch seems to work better at turning off cell standby, which shows 75% usage on battery.
2.5 Hours Unplugged now, and using Airplane mode has dropped my Cell standby to 51% usage vs 75% previously. I'm at 92% battery with decent usage during that time.
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Yes, turning off airplane mode work like crazy, just sometimes turning on/off this mode takes a little time to reaction, therefore slightly affected the user experience because you need to wait for the data connection back from airplane mode.
I am using SuperPower, which is pretty good, but so far, I have not yet found a battery app that is compatible with Tegra dual core CPU, therefore the CPU control mechanism is not used by any.
JuiceDefender always causing data problem for me, not sure if you have similar issue.
Thanks for sharing! I do need a soft restart button at least!
Ok...8 hours unplugged now. Mostly on standby, as I worked 6 hours today. Battery is at 89%...left Airplane Mode on.
Considering all the complaints about battery life, this is more than acceptable. Going to do some gaming and Media stuff for next few hours, see how long it takes to drain it.
im not complaining about it. I can see about 3 hours of very heavy use.
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One issue about the app linked. It may have issues with Gingerbread. Which you know we will prob have on Streak 7 soon and hopefully honeycomb sooner.
Superpower
I have been using Superpower also and it works for me. Has definitely increased battery life.
So do you just use ONE app (like super power) or you combinding them?
I'm fed up a bit for my Z3 C battery life. This is my second query regarding battery life.
Does keeping Mobile data and Whatsapp running ON even in standby mode drains the battery??
I usually get just 1 or 2 whatsapp messages in an hour or two.
My phone settings-
Always turned off my wifi/ bt/ nfc/ gps/ location tracking/ autoupdates etc. & everything you can think and suggest.
Use only stock custom wallpaper and no live stuff. No widgets. No sd card inserted. With only two hoemscreen wih just 2 shortcuts on each screen.
Have disabled apps which I dont use.
Stopped services of apps which are no longer needed.
No auto sync enabled for any app.
Display brightness is at 30% all times.
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I use only these 3rd party apps-
Status bar mini
Network monitor mini
Whatsapp
Greenify
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My daily Z3 routine-
At night while going to sleep I turn off mobile data, turn on airplane mode and turn on stamina mode. (12:30am - 9:30am)
When I wake up the next day battery is down by 4-5%.
During day, phone runs in normal mode without any stamina activated. (10am - 12:30am)
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The Low-battery mode seems useless as it does literally nothing.
Also, as soon as the battery is 100% charged and if I use phone for even 5 mins the battery immediately drops to 99%, so is this normal??
Even if I capture 5 photos in stock auto mode the battery drops by 1% or 2.
I reboot my phone once a week or in 10 days or when need arises.
Ram utilised is always 1gb. But I dont feel any slowness for any app or my phone usage.
But again I dont watch any movies or play games fearing my battery will deplete in no time.
I use 2G/edge network as 3G isnt available for my operator in the city I reside.
Charging the phone to 100% from 14% takes 3 to 3.5 hours.
I have already repaired my phone using Sony pc companion and also did a factory reset as well but this issue has been haunting me every now and then.
Sony center says the battery doesnt need any replacement as its still healthy and so is my device.
The phones service menu also reports battery status as Good.
I dont know when is Lollipop gonna be out for Z3 but I fear updating to Lollipop as it may pose more issues than doing any good apart from usual gui tweaks & updates.
But just wish that lollipop brings in more relief to Z3 batteries.
It would be better if you also posted some screenshots with your battery usage.
Does keeping Mobile data and Whatsapp running ON even in standby mode drains the battery??
I usually get just 1 or 2 whatsapp messages in an hour or two.
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EVERYTHING drains battery, literally everything. If your volume is on max it also drains more then when your volume is very low. (Just an example)
There is a controversy when it comes to WiFi vs 3G which drains more.
In the end I think that it depends on the coverage. For me 3G/4G drains my battery less then my WiFi due to the poor WiFi reception.
That your phone loses about 5% over night really isn't THAT bad, what I do before I go to bed is "Close all" to close all the aps running in the background (It won't terminate WhatsApp's service) and I let Greenify hibernate all programs that I selected.
There was also a talk about charging your phone to 100% vs 99% the first percentage drains fast for everyone so that's why it's maybe better to only charge it till 99%.
With screenshots of your battery usage we could help you more, but as far as I can see there is nothing wrong with your battery.
If you're rooted, try BetterBatteryStats to pinpoint the drain.
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It would be better if you also posted some screenshots with your battery usage.
EVERYTHING drains battery, literally everything. If your volume is on max it also drains more then when your volume is very low. (Just an example)
There is a controversy when it comes to WiFi vs 3G which drains more.
In the end I think that it depends on the coverage. For me 3G/4G drains my battery less then my WiFi due to the poor WiFi reception.
That your phone loses about 5% over night really isn't THAT bad, what I do before I go to bed is "Close all" to close all the aps running in the background (It won't terminate WhatsApp's service) and I let Greenify hibernate all programs that I selected.
There was also a talk about charging your phone to 100% vs 99% the first percentage drains fast for everyone so that's why it's maybe better to only charge it till 99%.
With screenshots of your battery usage we could help you more, but as far as I can see there is nothing wrong with your battery.
If you're rooted, try BetterBatteryStats to pinpoint the drain.
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Well my device isnt rooted nor I use any wifi.
And also I use Greenify to shutdown all apps before sleeping and also I do manual force stop for many other apps as well.
I like to be able to find my phone if I lose it so if I leave my Location setting to High Accuracy all the time will it drain my battery? If so, will switching to Device Only be better?
I keep mine on high accuracy and see little battery drain from it.
It does drain the battery a good amount. I can normally get an extra few hours if I disable location. Which I normally keep disabled all the time.
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Moto Z Force's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Drained like crazy
Got my Z Force yesterday and decided to test standby over night. What I got was 25% drain from 100 in 8 hours. The standby drain was cell standby. I'm hoping it will settle down but that's not good.
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Got my Z Force yesterday and decided to test standby over night. What I got was 25% drain from 100 in 8 hours. The standby drain was cell standby. I'm hoping it will settle down but that's not good.
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My cell standby is very low. Hopefully yours settles down.
Mine is very low as well. Even with low signal, I'm only dropping 30% or so throughout the course of a day with mild use.
Im getting around 5% drain while sleeping. Typically 5 hours a night so roughly 1% an hour
Be sure to turn wifi scanning off in "Location" - it appears to really drain and can end up keeping your phone awake. My first few days I had really bad drain but turning that off and some days with and without the mod and it has really settled.
Also be sure to close all your apps...that does make a difference as well.
5% drain here too. Approx 7 hours sleep. WiFi and cell active, with nothing deactivated.
Set your phone to disable WiFi when sleeping:
Settings -> WiFi -> Advanced "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" = "Only When Plugged In"
I was experiencing similar drain overnight (approx 20%) and this brought it down to about 3%
You can also selectively disable mobile data usage for apps in the background using the application manager. Recommend doing this for anything that might be a data hog or that you really don't want updating when your phone is asleep (e.g. twitter or other social media apps, if you don't care about notifications):
App Info -> App Data Usage -> Restrict App Background Data ON
These settings made a huge difference for me. Most apps are conservative about mobile data use by default (e.g. spotify isn't going to sync huge things over mobile while your phone is sleeping) -- I haven't noticed any particular increase in data use since doing this, but the battery savings is remarkable. Wifi is a big power drain.
Something causes the phone to not go to sleep sometimes. I have Greenify set up with Doze on the Go turned on. After a while, the sleep function just stops working and the phone has to be rebooted to get it to go back into the sleep mode. Haven't been able to figure this one out. Root would help us here.
Periodic rebooting does seem to help with standby drain.
Coming from an S7e, this phone is tops in this regard. Overnight I lose 10% at most. Almost always at 50%+ after work (7a-5p). Lenovo/Moto did it again! Just as happy as I was with the Turbo. Plus the chop chop works so much better, only ~5% fail rate. Fingerprint reader is much more useful than I ever imagined.
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Set your phone to disable WiFi when sleeping:
Settings -> WiFi -> Advanced "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" = "Only When Plugged In"
I was experiencing similar drain overnight (approx 20%) and this brought it down to about 3%
You can also selectively disable mobile data usage for apps in the background using the application manager. Recommend doing this for anything that might be a data hog or that you really don't want updating when your phone is asleep (e.g. twitter or other social media apps, if you don't care about notifications):
App Info -> App Data Usage -> Restrict App Background Data ON
These settings made a huge difference for me. Most apps are conservative about mobile data use by default (e.g. spotify isn't going to sync huge things over mobile while your phone is sleeping) -- I haven't noticed any particular increase in data use since doing this, but the battery savings is remarkable. Wifi is a big power drain.
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Omg I always wondered why the heck my phone always said WiFi battery usage was high even when I was on Airplane mode with my S5!
Thanks bro! ✌?
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Something causes the phone to not go to sleep sometimes. I have Greenify set up with Doze on the Go turned on. After a while, the sleep function just stops working and the phone has to be rebooted to get it to go back into the sleep mode. Haven't been able to figure this one out. Root would help us here.
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I had this problem too until I realized that I was using the fingerprint sensor to turn the device off. Greenify has an option for this, but it doesn't seem to work with the Z Force. Greenify does work properly for me if I use the power button to turn the screen off. But it doesn't if I use the fingerprint sensor.
It's normal to Motorola. This is a fresh factory reset.
Hi guys, planning to put my GPS always on, anyone also doing this? How's the battery life?
i keep location services on, high accuracy mode and wifi scanning always on. the battery consumption is normal and phone easily lasts me 1 day.
i dont see the point of having a smartphone and have to switch on and off location all the time. i'm willing to sacrifice a little battery.
I too always leave location on (high accuracy, wifi/bluetooth scanning available).
I also have Google Location History on, which requests location data a few times an hour.
On Open Beta 10 with ElementalX Kernel.
On idle, I've experienced minimal drain (0.1-0.3% per hour).
While traveling (and listening to music at the same time), I usually see 5-7% drain per hour.