Hi,
I been using the webtop 3 on my atrix lapdock and it is really amazing
I connected it to my 37" FULLHD LCD screen and chose 1920x1080 50/60Hz as my resolution but it still looks like 1280x720,does someone knows if it is even possible to output 1080p from the droid 4? (I have seen posts about getting webtop 2 in Atrix to output 1080p).
How does webtop 3 works in terms of outputing,since it is plain ICS there is no X server,right?
Is there any config files that I can play with?
It's just in the normal Android settings menu, though I can't remember exactly where, probably under display.
The option only appears once you have an HDMI cable hooked up, and I don't have one available right now, sorry.
Yep, under Dispaly you can find Webtop resolution and can choose 1920x1080 50 or 60Hz.
I see the option, but it's greyed out for me, for some reason. My TV supports it, but it defaults to 1280*720
Sjaakbanaan said:
I see the option, but it's greyed out for me, for some reason. My TV supports it, but it defaults to 1280*720
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I`ve just tried it again, connect to my 40-inch Samsung, choose Webtop, by default it`s 1280x720 - but I can change it to 1920x1080.
Sjaakbanaan said:
I see the option, but it's greyed out for me, for some reason. My TV supports it, but it defaults to 1280*720
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are you sure you don't have a 1080i TV and not a 1080p? webtop might be picky between the two.
This is often the issue. A lot of 1080i TVs aren't even 1920x1080 they are 1366x768 using cheap panels originally intended for computer use. See if you can find the actual specs, including the native resolution, of your TV. Or post the make and model here.
In any case the phone will be querying the TV for it's capabilities and offering up whatever the TV claims to support.
Lum_UK said:
This is often the issue. A lot of 1080i TVs aren't even 1920x1080 they are 1366x768 using cheap panels originally intended for computer use. See if you can find the actual specs, including the native resolution, of your TV. Or post the make and model here.
In any case the phone will be querying the TV for it's capabilities and offering up whatever the TV claims to support.
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It's a 42" LG 3DTV from 2011, according to the LG remote control app on my phone it's a 42LW570S-ZD. As far as I can tell it's full 1080P with 100 Hz (so assuming 50 Hz should be no problem either, but it might be picky about this I guess?)
Maybe I should turn off the smooth motion thingy?
Edit: probably a TV related issue indeed, with my projector it works fine. I can select from the whole list of resolutions even though its native resolution is 1024*768.
Edit 2: Now the selection seems to work, not sure why. Maybe playing around with the projector 'unlocked' it, or maybe it was the smooth motion thingy. 1920*1080 seems to be a lower resolution effectively than 1280*720 for some reason, browser still says it's 720P so still need to search some more. Strange thing: 1280*720 @ 60 Hz works great without 'scale to fit' enabled, but same resolution @ 50 Hz doesn't fully fit in the screen. Enabling scale to fit make everything look less sharp, so the resizing algorithms aren't that great.
Edit 3: There's something very fishy going on here. It looks like it's always based on 1280*720 resolution somehow:
- My TV reports the selected resolution, but anything over 1280*720 looks like it's downscaled (horribly).
- Web pages always report 1280*720 resolution via stock browser, even when I'm in 640*480 and can clearly see the lowered resolution.
- Android Assistant always reports 1280*672 (or something) resolution, which is excluding the action bar I guess.
No idea if that's related to my TV or just a general WebTop issue though. The TV seems to respond to every resolution change, and shows the selected resolution in its info bar.
I chose the 1920x1080 all that I am saying it is that it looks like 1280x720 to me.
My TV is Full HD and I use it with my PC in 1920x1080.
Can it be that it scales the picture to be in the same dimension?
Same for me, and the phone seem to report the resolution being 1280*720 regardless of the actual selected resolution.
Also the downscaling algorithm is terrible, 1920*1080 downscaled looks less crisp than 1280*720 full resolution.
Tonight I want to try taking some screenshots, and see what sizes they get.
I was wondering if it could be the HDMI cable, but it passes 1080p just fine for other devices.
acipio Robt.
The chipset(OMAP 4430) should support full HD display and from what I understand on webtop2(on atrix I think) people managed to display the full resolution.
The proof is in the pudding. I took screenshots at 640*480 (clearly blocky when shown on TV, and TV indicates resolution as 640*480), 1280*720, and 1920*1080..
They all have the exact same dimensions!
The actual operating system is running at 1280*720, regardless of which resolution you select! It's resized by the output chip. Nasty nasty!!
(but understandable, else every resolution change would require some apps to restart, and using 1080p instead of 720p would be less fluid while most people can't tell the difference anyway = less customer satisfaction for Average Joe)
So we need some config file hack to enable TRUE 1080p probably.
Edit: XDA forum resizes the pictures, so here they are in full resolution (click the corner icon to view full) - http://imgur.com/a/2DuqK
Edit 2: Even for WebTop 2, it looks like Motorola never stated it supported 1080p - looks like 720p is max. But for older WebTop versions, a higher resolution could be hacked via the terminal, so I'm hoping to find something similar for WebTop 3. So far no luck in any config file or DB I checked.
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...ail/a_id/63272/~/webtop---display-resolutions
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/69653/p/1449,7978
Hello, sad to see that the only google's answare to the fKe fullhd on webtop 3 is this forgotten thread. Any news? (I'm with a razr with webtop 3 after ics update, the latest jb ota update shows no good news
Hi!
any news? Please help how to enable true 1080p in webtop 3.0.
gapcio78 said:
Hi!
any news? Please help how to enable true 1080p in webtop 3.0.
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Yes, without 1080p (or even 1280x1024) support I'll send back the Razr Maxx inkl. HD Dock BT Mouse & Keyboard. I was testing the Webtop 3 solution to connect to a regular Business Monitor (e.g. 19" and 24") to run a virtual Win7 Desktop via Citrix Receiver over that - but with a limit at (true) 720p this is no acceptable solution for me.
regards
Trashx
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Hi,
Anyone tried using handbrake to do video conversion to mp4 h.264? I'm using 0.9.4 and not having much luck. All i get out is the audio. I can convert to 480x320 resolution on Videora but trying to get 800x480, or something close to that resolution. So i have this video i want to convert and in Handbrake i used the native 720x304 screen size at 24fps. I think i tried 29.997fps too. I am wondering if the bitrate needs to be some specific multiple like 768kbps or 1.5Mbps. Is there a configuration that will work with the Nexus? Thanks in advance.
[update] so i stumbled upon this link that may or may not help.
http://matthodology.com/n1/2010/03/02/convert-movies-for-viewing-on-nexus-one-using-handbrake/
i will try it out tonight and let you folks know.
[update2] hey what do you know, it works! i used the "iPhone & iPod Touch" preset and it looked pretty good. exciting! need to experiment with more videos. follow the instructions in the link and make sure you adjust the width appropriately. definitely don't try a resolution that is over the source resolution, that's just wasteful! hehe
I know the physical sizes of the iPod/iTouch are about the same, but isn't the resolution 2 times less?
Nexus One Resolution: 800 x 400 = 320,000 Pixels
Iphone Resolution: 480 x 320 = 153,600 Pixels
2.08 times less?
It would seem you are not getting near the resolution the phone is capable of.
my problem was Handbrake was saving everything as .m4a. Change your extension to .mp4 if you haven't already done so.
ccunningham83 said:
I know the physical sizes of the iPod/iTouch are about the same, but isn't the resolution 2 times less?
Nexus One Resolution: 800 x 400 = 320,000 Pixels
Iphone Resolution: 480 x 320 = 153,600 Pixels
2.08 times less?
It would seem you are not getting near the resolution the phone is capable of.
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somehow that particular preset works, you can adjust the output resolution in the first tab. from what i'm seeing it seems like it's working. i will use a media tool to check the resultant file's resolution tonight. good point though.
The Windows Mobile part of the forum has a great application that has thus far worked great for me.
HD Encoder by projection:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
I actually just got handbrake set up doing video conversions for the Nexus, but it's at home. If I remember correctly, I used the iPod settings, then changed a couple of values (namely setting the width to 800 by default and letting it keep aspect ratio) and set a preset. Looks fantastic on the Nexus, I'll try to see if I can export the preset somehow when I get home and send it your way.
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I'll try to see if I can export the preset somehow when I get home and send it your way.
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Looking forward to this
try format factory... it has a preset for the N1
Handbrake is great , has alot of options, as usual it is only good if you know what you are doing, so we need a preset that WORKS.
right now I'm testing HD Encoder by projection, runnig it on Ubuntu usin Wine 1.2 Beta , well it has ceashed ... will test more.
The good thing is you have just 3 options ... so it's easy to use
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Looking forward to this
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Rats, I can't seem to find a way to export a preset, so I'll just try to type out what I set. I know I started with the iPod preset:
On Picture, I have Width = 800, then click "Keep Aspect Ratio" and let it populate height. Anamorphic set to "None", Cropping set to "Automatic".
On Video Filters, everything is set to Off and unchecked.
On Video, Video Codec is H.264 (x264), Framerate is "Same as source", Avg. Bitrate is checked with the value of "1500"
On Audio, the one track is set as Source: Automatic, Audio Codec: AAC (faac), Mixdown: Stereo, Samplerate: 48, Bitrate: 128, DRC: 0.0.
Nothing special for Subtitles or Chapters
Advanced I've got:
Reference Frames: 1
B-Frames: 0
Motion Estimation Method: Uneven Multi-Hexagon
Subpixel Motion Estimation: 6
Motion Estimation Range: Default (16)
Analysis: All
8x8 DCT: Unchecked
CABAC Entropy Coding: Unchecked
Psychovisual Rate Distortion: Greyed, all the way left.
No Fast-P-Skip: Checked
No DCT-Decimate: Unchecked
Deblocking: Both on Default.
Hope that helps!
JHaste said:
try format factory... it has a preset for the N1
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how do you like that converter so far? how long does it take you to convert a full movie like district 9? i'm using aimersoft.com and they also have a N1 preset and add subtitles from srt files. you guys can get it free via torrent
Nexus One Handbrake Preset
Swervo said:
Rats, I can't seem to find a way to export a preset, so I'll just try to type out what I set. I know I started with the iPod preset:
On Picture, I have Width = 800, then click "Keep Aspect Ratio" and let it populate height. Anamorphic set to "None", Cropping set to "Automatic".
On Video Filters, everything is set to Off and unchecked.
On Video, Video Codec is H.264 (x264), Framerate is "Same as source", Avg. Bitrate is checked with the value of "1500"
On Audio, the one track is set as Source: Automatic, Audio Codec: AAC (faac), Mixdown: Stereo, Samplerate: 48, Bitrate: 128, DRC: 0.0.
Nothing special for Subtitles or Chapters
Advanced I've got:
Reference Frames: 1
B-Frames: 0
Motion Estimation Method: Uneven Multi-Hexagon
Subpixel Motion Estimation: 6
Motion Estimation Range: Default (16)
Analysis: All
8x8 DCT: Unchecked
CABAC Entropy Coding: Unchecked
Psychovisual Rate Distortion: Greyed, all the way left.
No Fast-P-Skip: Checked
No DCT-Decimate: Unchecked
Deblocking: Both on Default.
Hope that helps!
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Thanks for this.
I am able to export presets, so after I'm done converting "Fight Club", if the settings worked, I'll update my reply with the preset attached.
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15 hours to encode...fuxit.
The preset (using Swervo's info in the above post) is attached. Remove the .txt extension.
Just downloaded and installed Format Factory... where's the Nexus One preset?! Under Google, there are two for a device called GX... neither with the correct resolution.
uansari1 said:
Just downloaded and installed Format Factory... where's the Nexus One preset?! Under Google, there are two for a device called GX... neither with the correct resolution.
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Did you find the nexus preset...I can't find it myself
I just use the iPhone/iPod Touch setting, the resolution is lower, but it looks fine and keeps the file size down. I've converted seasons of TV shows and it works great
icegad said:
Did you find the nexus preset...I can't find it myself
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Yeah... go to HTC/Dopod 800X480 AVC. Default settings work perfectly.
How long does converting a 700mb video in format factory take.its been 3 hrs and I'm at 72%. Is this normal?
I use to have a BB and I used this guide:
http://forums.crackberry.com/f135/dvd-storm-walkthrough-pictures-107961/
It worked on my BB and it works flawlessly on my N1.
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How long does converting a 700mb video in format factory take.its been 3 hrs and I'm at 72%. Is this normal?
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It depends on your computer's specs... but even on my laptop, which is running a core2 duo with 3gb of ram, it takes about 60% of the time of the length of the movie, or maybe a little less.
lol, takes me 7-12 minutes to encode a 2hr movie to 80% of original size
Hey everyone
wanted to ask about this problem i have been having with my tab
when i hook it up through my tv or pc screen with hdmi the text and image in general
is very low res or appears very grainy.
Is there anyway to increase it or fix the rough image that you guys know of?
Thanks heaps
I've had the same issue. Thing is my beamer isn't 1080p, it's 720p at the most (I'm talking output resolution, not input wich can be anything).
From what I've read, people are having problem with some TV that are not recognized by the dock as HD. Result is the image is at very low res (720x480 or 720x576, I would guess) even lower than the tab's resolution (which is ridiculous).
I haven't found a fix for that, but if anyone have an idea that would be great !
Put it in landscape, it looks much better on tv.
And when you play videos it change resolution and looks great
Sent from my GT-P1000
If anyone knows anything about this please share as i am having the same problem and its very annoying having spent the money on this dock.
thanks alot guys!
The first post is always updated to show the "how to do it quick" that I arrive at after my long series of "doing it painfully slow." All the other posts are simply notes I share while "doing it painfully slow."
I'm always trying to remember something I forgot, never something I remember.
I'm also new to the platform so I'm remembering things for the first time, which makes this a perfect time to document these learnings.
Sharing files over Wifi with Tablet:
http://www.redmondpie.com/access-ftp-sites-natively-in-windows-7/
I followed these simple directions to map the tablet's FTP sever as a network drive. What FTP server? I'm using "File Expert" which seems to work well. There are many other apps available as well.
Using an external bluetooth:
Download "Bluetooth GPS" from the market. This will allow you to import the gps data. You have to turn on GPS on the tablet and enable mock gps locations in the menus (instructions in application in market.)
Rooting my (just about any) Android Phone
SuperOneClick: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
Wow that was easy! Rooted my android 2.1 mb200 (Cliq) in 30 seconds. You need the drivers for your phone which you can get from the phone manufacturer's site. I got something called "MotoHelper" from Motorola's site.
Using your phone as a Wifi Hotspot:
android-wifi-tether is the program of choice. If your phone doesn't have a kernel that supports IP tables it won't work. Most phones probably don't have firewall capabilities loaded into them by default! If you want to do that: they support many phones. Check um out.
If you don't want to change the kernel and your phone is rooted, you can use the "Barnacle Wifi Tether" from the market. It turns the device into a mobile hotspot you can access with your android tablet. Works great!
Using your phone as an External Bluetooth GPS device:
Don't think it requires rooting. There are a lot of apps (a lot.. omg) that claim to do it. I was able to find ONE that actually works, for 10 minutes at least. It's only $1.50CDN (if you can get that **** to work) or $1.99 directly to unlock. Works great! It's in the market called "Bluetooth GPS Output". You can buy the $1.99 unlock code from their website. I spent hours hunting something free. haha
Watching video on CM7 (pre-hardware acceleration)
*NOTE* Getting audio in-sync is near impossible. I've given up. I don't think there is a way of accomplishing this without DSP support.
Download "MoboPlayer" and install w/ your favorite app installer. I use "File Expert" because of it's FTP server capabilites making copying super easy and wireless for me.
MoboPlayer is superior to RockPlayer for gingerbread (cm7) for software decoding. It has a silly "skip" button you have to hit when you start up. Not sure how to get rid of that. Yet.
Above is now depreciated with hardware accelerated video working in cm7.
Download the latest version of "Handbrake". I have attached a zipfile with a preset in it that you can import by clicking preset->import. You should then see a preset called "Chisleu High Quality (imported)" on the right side of the screen.
Step 1: Open your file to be converted
Step 2: Select the Preset
Step 3: Change your resolution if it is larger than 854x480.
854x480 is the maximum so set the width to 854 and make sure the width is under 480 (should be) but if not change it so the width and height are under 854x480.
It will always default to the original resolution if it is smaller than 854x480. It should default to 854x480 max if the source is higher resolution. If it doesn't include the 854x480 max, when you select it to encode a video, change the resolution to 854 width and save the preset.
Pairing/Using Zoom 9010 Bluetooth Mini Keyboard w/ NCEncore
Hit the button on the bottom of the keyboard. Go to the bluetooth menu and select the device to pair. It will ask for a pin. Type in 1234 into the tablet. THEN type 1234 into the keyboard and hit enter on the keyboard. Enjoy keyboard!
More to come!
These are notes I made while making the "howto" which is in the first post. The final steps needed are above. If you are hacking your way through this stuff and looking for insights, the stuff below could be helpful. If you are looking for "how do I do this fast" then don't read this stuff, just refer to the first post!!!
Watching video on CM7 (pre-hardware acceleration)
Rockplayer seems to work very well. I'm hoping to figure out the "ideal" formatting for software decode.
It seems everyone has their favorite way to pull this off... I'm using the free program "Handbrake" to convert video files over.
Well, I have reasonable quality video playing well but the sound is being a problem. With my last conversion, the sound will just stop playing after a while and you have to move the video slider around a little to get it to start back up. not good.
848x480 video seems to be pushing it and the quality isn't that much better than 720, so I'm going to limit myself to 720x480max video.
Sample rate 48 audio was very quiet, turns out 41 is too! Use the DRC slider in the audio tab -> 4 to help compensate. I also turned the volume on the speaker up 10db w/ thee "DSP Manager" that comes with the distribution. Helps to boost the volume to less silent levels. Workable, but headphones of some sort are still required IMHO.
Nope. Still crappy. Worried I won't be able to play anything past cartoons!
Update: Rockplayer sucks!!! (for me, on this platform, etc, etc)
http://moboplayer.com/moboplayer_en.html
At another's direction, the v7 "Neon" version of Moboplayer is EPIC. Works much better. It plays my encoding of "BBC Planet Earth - Jungles 1080p". On a side note, if you haven't seen the Planet Earth series, get it. It is super fun to watch. very interesting.
I used these settings:
720x400 (720 max w/ automatic height)
48k / 128kbps AAC/faac audio.
51 minutes is 765mb. Pretty huge.
I mostly used the direcitons provided here:
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...using-handbrake-convert-video-nook-color.html
(3) On the Presets window, select High Profile.
(4) Click on the Source button, and load the video file you want to convert.
(5) Click the Browse, and select a destination and file name for the MP4 video file you will create.
(6) Go to the Picture tab. Set the Anamorphic menu to None. Enter 720 in the Width box, and check the Keep Aspect Ratio button. The Height should automatically adjust.
(7) Go to the Video Filters tab. Set Detelecine and Decomb to Off.
(8) Go to the Video tab. If you are using DVD source video, or standard resolution video, leave the Framerate option as Same as source. If your source is HD video (60fps), change the Framerate to 29.97.
(9) Go to the Audio tab. How many tracks appear? The goal is to end up with one track with an Audio Codec that shows up as AAC (faac) or MP3 (lame). If there are others, right click and remove them. On the remaining track, set Mixdown to Stereo, Samplerate to 48, and Bitrate to 128.
(10) Skip the Subtitles and Chapters tabs.
(11) Go to the Advanced tab. Set Maximum B-Frames to 0, and uncheck the CABAC Entropy Coding, 8x8 Transform, and Weighted P-Frames options.
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I'm currently converting "Back To The Future 720p":
720x400:
average bitrate 800kbps (2pass)
44.1/128 MP3(lame)
Remember to jack up the DRC (I've been using the max setting of 4) which will help compensate for the low speaker volume. I also configured the DSP EQ for up to 5db of boost (mid range) curving down to 1db at the extremities.
Damn I love this platform.
EDIT: Retried my 854x480 conversion (high bitrate, 1gig/51minutes) It plays just great with MoboPlayer Neon. I'm going to watch the low bitrate encode of Back To The Future 720p (720x400 ~800kbps video 766meg/1:56). It is transfering now but my firewall isn't N-capable so it's slow!
I'm mainly checking to see if that quality is decent (low bitrate and 2 pass encoding)
Then I'm going to do a "final settings" encode to test out max quality.
I'm also going to do a 1024x600 video just to see if it's possible to play. I think it's probably overkill. I think the playback will suffer. 854 seems to really eat CPU as it is. We will see.
EDIT: Downloaded a 1 minute 1080p test video to use to test resolutions/such with to speed things up a bit.
http://www.fileserve.com/file/SdtfFxh/hd_other_sony_hd_experiment.m2ts
EDIT: Droid does!!! DRC doesn't! Specifically, it doesn't boost volume very much. It is really just normalization. Not encoding using DRC anymore. If you want to watch videos... use headphones.
EDIT: Wow, much faster using a 1 minute file plus the math is easy to determine 1 hour file sizes. hehe.
EDIT: 1024 width doesn't play.
EDIT: Uhm, maybe it does. for some reason MoboPlayer is calling it HD and trying to play in hardware. I can play the 854 w/ software decode so I'm reencoding... stop deleting stuff even if it doesn't work the first time dude...
EDIT: so.... many... variables....
EDIT: door to door salespeople suck... no this isn't an ipad, and no I don't want your cleaning products.
EDIT: Got a quality configuration working!
My 1 minute test video ended up at 5,487KB which puts us at roughly 330MB per hour. Acceptable size for me. This is a 2-pass 600kbps video stream. The 500kbps had noticeably less quality. Higher quality encoding does improve quality, but seems to have video sync issues.
Encoding a lower resolution (but longer) file now w/ my settings to test.
Successful video!!!! I converted Zombieland.720p into the format above and she plays wonderfully in software mode with no sync issues!!! Fantastic!!!
If you are looking to convert video for travel or the like, this is the ticket!
Feed your source material into HandBrake, select the Universal preset, get rid of the AC3 soundtrack if it's included in the source (since all you really need is the 2 channel stereo track), add subs if required, encode, put it on the NOOK Color, you're done.
No need for two-pass encoding as HandBrake's newer CRF based encoding methodology (for the x264 encoder) saves time and gets pretty much equal results in half the time.
People really overcomplicate this encoding for the NOOK Color, way too much. It's not that hard. The Universal preset will adjust the resolution to fit (the NOOK Color has a maximum video pixel width of 854, period), and it uses a good baseline profile (what the NOOK Color is designed to play) without issues.
Everything is already in that preset, ready to go, and you're not really going to get much better quality with all the fiddling, all the command line options, etc.
Source > HandBrake > Universal preset > drop AC3 track, set bitrate as desired for audio > Encode > Put it on the device > Enjoy the movie.
Simple.
I love different opinions!
br0adband said:
No need for two-pass encoding as HandBrake's newer CRF based encoding methodology (for the x264 encoder) saves time and gets pretty much equal results in half the time.
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2 pass is vastly superior for file size. If you don't care about file size, ya you can use a larger file with great quality. But if you care about sizes (ie, using a CR of 40, which I did) it looks like crap. 2 pass encoding is vastly superior because it allows smaller size with dynamic bitrates and higher quality.
I'm not the "lazy" guy. I don't mind taking the time to figure out the way that is best for me. I am simply sharing that knowledge. A google search will reveal tons of different ways of doing this.
br0adband said:
Everything is already in that preset, ready to go, and you're not really going to get much better quality with all the fiddling, all the command line options, etc.
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That preset is also 720 width, not 854. I'm trying to maximize quality, minimize file size, and stay compatible with the hardware accelerator. Of course, once hardware accel comes out, one can up the kbps to 1000-1200 if you wish, although I do not feel it is needed.
My setup generates files ~ 320mb per hour. Comparable static bitrate quality would be much larger.
br0adband said:
Simple.
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Now that Handbrake has the ability to import presets, it's super easy for people. Import the file (once) select the file, select the preset, change the resolution. done. super simple.
Of course this is only intended for CM7 users.
chisleu said:
Flash 10.2 (leaked)
[...]I would expect it will work much better on nookie froyo. so much so that I'm going to use my SD card to boot nookie and try!
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Did it work on Froyo, and if so, did you notice any improvement?
TJNooker said:
Did it work on Froyo, and if so, did you notice any improvement?
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It "worked" on nookie froyo and rooted 2.1 (bn 1.1) to begin with (flash 10.1) but I would expect that 10.2 would give a dramatic improvement. The increase on CM7 was dramatic. I don't have a working froyo build to test though. enjoying CM7 too much.
br0adband said:
the NOOK Color has a maximum video pixel width of 854, period
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Actually software viewers will play up to a 1024x600 file at full screen. Anything less is scaled (software) up to that.
The hardware encoder will up/down scale to 854x480.
Also I just used your instructions above which is RF:20 encoding. that's ~19mb per minute. Compared to ~5.5 w/ my settings. The quality is noticably higher, but it could be accomplished w/ 1000-1200kbps settings with 2 pass. (9-11MB/min)
Also video sync is still an issue for some reason. I'm not sure what the problem is anymore.
I'm on the new 3/15/11 test version including DSP video support. It works and it stays in sync but the framerate is garbage. It's roughly 5-15dps at any given time. Progress is sexy.
It looks like we really just need DSP support if we are going to play videos in sync.
chisleu said:
It "worked" on nookie froyo and rooted 2.1 (bn 1.1) to begin with (flash 10.1) but I would expect that 10.2 would give a dramatic improvement. The increase on CM7 was dramatic. I don't have a working froyo build to test though. enjoying CM7 too much.
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How did you get flash running on stock eclair?
ace7196 said:
How did you get flash running on stock eclair?
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I can not remember if I did or not. I believe there is a flash for 2.1 apk floating around if you look.
Chisleu,
why dint you try Vitalplaer neon. It has way better software encoding then rockplayer and moboplayer. Its the best I found so far fo xvid movies
zorvalth said:
Chisleu,
why dint you try Vitalplaer neon. It has way better software encoding then rockplayer and moboplayer. Its the best I found so far fo xvid movies
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It seems to stay in sync more, but it also lags more. It also has ads on the bottom of the screen. I did try it, but as soon as I saw the ad I realized it wasn't for me.
But yes, unless it is lieing and really using the hardware to play, this is much better. I'm going to encode my test file to 1024x600 and see how it does in software with Vitalplayer Neon.
no 1024 didn't fly in software. Looks terrible, and lags/gets out of sync.
IMO, the argument is moot at this point. Vitalplayer isn't free, and software can't play video better than the hardware can (854x480)
Now that hardware acceleration is working the CM7 test it won't be long before it's in CM7, and I personally have no need for software acceleration.
Then again, for lower quality stuff that I don't want to reencode, vitalplayer is much better at staying in sync. Impressively so in fact.
I may buy it. Thanks for the tip.
I uploaded some test videos encoded to Nook specs at various bitrates so you could see and maybe avoid reencoding repeatedly to find a bitrate that works for you.
Original file is a 1080p Music Video for "Good Girl, Bad Girl" by Miss A. This is a k-pop group I love and they encourage redistribution of their music videos, so no issues there.
600kbps video 20mb
http://www.mediafire.com/?d42dmvva9vbigm2
1200kbps video 36.5mb
http://www.mediafire.com/?2lyb5qicpynz13a
2000kbps video 58.4mb
http://www.mediafire.com/?d42dmvva9vbigm2
I can not tell a difference between 1200 and 2000.
There is definitely a difference between 600 and 1200, but is the difference worth 4.3mb per minute? A 90 minute video would be an additional 387MB larger.
Maybe it is for you, and maybe it isn't, and maybe you will just go with 800 or 1000kbps if you want to split the difference.
These are just intended for you to have a jumping off point so you don't have to go to the lengths I have!
chisleu said:
It seems to stay in sync more, but it also lags more. It also has ads on the bottom of the screen. I did try it, but as soon as I saw the ad I realized it wasn't for me.
But yes, unless it is lieing and really using the hardware to play, this is much better. I'm going to encode my test file to 1024x600 and see how it does in software with Vitalplayer Neon.
no 1024 didn't fly in software. Looks terrible, and lags/gets out of sync.
IMO, the argument is moot at this point. Vitalplayer isn't free, and software can't play video better than the hardware can (854x480)
Now that hardware acceleration is working the CM7 test it won't be long before it's in CM7, and I personally have no need for software acceleration.
Then again, for lower quality stuff that I don't want to reencode, vitalplayer is much better at staying in sync. Impressively so in fact.
I may buy it. Thanks for the tip.
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I don't know what you are downloading but Vitalplayer Neon is definitely free....
Sent from my NookColor
zorvalth said:
I don't know what you are downloading but Vitalplayer Neon is definitely free....
Sent from my NookColor
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I miss the "ad" word in that sentence. It was meant to say "ad free".
I can't stand seeing ads. I don't mind paying for software I want, but I hate ads.
I bought the Vital Player Pro but we were unable to get it working and I was issued a refund. It would start up and immediately shutdown. I think there may be a problem with paid apps because I also can not get TapaTalk pro to work on my tablet. It keeps saying it isn't paid for. Tapatalk has much slower customer support than VitalPlayer did.
So now that hardware acceleration is enabled, do you still do the same handbrake encoding process as before? Or was that just a workaround for the software? Or because hardware acceleration is now enabled, are we able to handle more/different codecs?
br0adband said:
No need for two-pass encoding as HandBrake's newer CRF based encoding methodology (for the x264 encoder) saves time and gets pretty much equal results in half the time.
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I apologize. This new 1 pass system is far superior to those of old. I bow to your wisdom. CF25 is about equal to 1200kbps video in both size and quality.
Thanks for posting up the sample vids. The first and third link are the same. Both go to Miss A Bad Girl Good Girl - Nook 2000.m4v
For me, the preset in the OP produces an image that is compressed horizontally. Anyone else seeing this? Using handbrake 0.9.5 and playing on the latest CM7 stock video player.
Hey guys!
I've been playing around with my Chromecast after I got it today, and everything seems to be working great. Except when I cast tabs (or the whole desktop) to the Chromecast, somehow the display gets cut off by like a couple of inches on each edge. I tried with a Macbook Pro, and a Win 7 desktop (varied the resolution on the computers as well). I have a Haier L32D1120, wanted to know if anyone else is having similar issues. I tried the different options under the Chrome extension, none of them fixed it. I use a PS3/Roku/Apple TV on my TV using HDMI, and none of them have any issues like this.
Any clues?
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Hey guys!
I've been playing around with my Chromecast after I got it today, and everything seems to be working great. Except when I cast tabs (or the whole desktop) to the Chromecast, somehow the display gets cut off by like a couple of inches on each edge. I tried with a Macbook Pro, and a Win 7 desktop (varied the resolution on the computers as well). I have a Haier L32D1120, wanted to know if anyone else is having similar issues. I tried the different options under the Chrome extension, none of them fixed it. I use a PS3/Roku/Apple TV on my TV using HDMI, and none of them have any issues like this.
Any clues?
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I'd expect them to handle some overscan, but without some sort of setup util to determine (via user input) the optimal amount, you're likely to still have some. Does it provide a setup in the beginning asking you to move edges of a box or arrows until they are at the edge of the screen (overscan calibration)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan
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I'd expect them to handle some overscan, but without some sort of setup util to determine (via user input) the optimal amount, you're likely to still have some. Does it provide a setup in the beginning asking you to move edges of a box or arrows until they are at the edge of the screen (overscan calibration)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan
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I looked at the advanced video settings on my TV, and somehow the Overscan setting is set to On, but it never lets me do anything in that option or change it. Weird. Might have to look at the manual.
Thanks though.
I think it's the TV that is doing the overscan, since it's an HDMI signal, not a Monitor input like VGA or DVI. So it's interpreting that the signal has been adjusted to be overscanned. Idunno.
Anyway, My TV (Samsung) has an option to adjust the fit of the picture
Menu > Picture > Screen Adjustment > Picture Size > Screen Fit
Now I can see the entire video and no overscanning.
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I think it's the TV that is doing the overscan, since it's an HDMI signal, not a Monitor input like VGA or DVI. So it's interpreting that the signal has been adjusted to be overscanned. Idunno.
Anyway, My TV (Samsung) has an option to adjust the fit of the picture
Menu > Picture > Screen Adjustment > Picture Size > Screen Fit
Now I can see the entire video and no overscanning.
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Yeah. Overscan isn't accidental. The reasons may be ancient and a result of inexact control and display, but all modern "TV" displays will scale/crop some of the signal (overscanning) to deal with the format of the signals that had to be padded for displays that had no choice (CRT).
That's pretty much THE defining characteristic of a TV vs a "Display". These days, any decent digital TV can display 1:1 pixel ratio (like yours).
I have a chromecast hooked up to a pretty old TV via HDMI. It's working perfectly and the TV tells med it's running at "720p, 60hz". My problem is that when I hook up my computer (nvidia gtx 960) via HDMI to the same TV I have to set it to 480p for the picture to be stable. At 720p it starts to flicker and go black on and off. I have tried many different resolutions with varying result. I don't understand why it works with chromecast and not with the computer, both at 720p.
That's why I was figuring if there is a way to tell at exactly what resolution the Chromecast is playing. Perhaps the Chromecast have determined an optimal resolution for the TV that I havn't yet tried with the computer. So is there a way to tell the exact resolution if I root my Chromecast?
Thank you
1280 X 720 60Hz is standard 720P.
If you look in your nvidia control panel (which is what you should be using) there should be an indicator of what the native resolution of the monitor is.
1280 X 720 or 1176 X 664.
Don't try to set resolution from Windows itself on an nVidia card.
You may also need to set desktop scaling if your monitor's bezel doesn't support underscan.
You should also do that in the nVidia control panel.
If you have that installed simply right click on the desktop and there should be a link to it in the menu.