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Hello,
I live on a US Military base in Germany, and know that the only carrier of the Nexus One here is Vodafone, and without a contract it costs €489,99, which is like $610, a lot more than the $529 you pay in America. But since I can get free/cheaper shipping to my APO address, I am wondering if I can buy a $529 Nexus One from a carrier in America like AT&T and just use my own sim card in it. Thanks.
Stevv said:
Hello,
I live on a US Military base in Germany, and know that the only carrier of the Nexus One here is Vodafone, and without a contract it costs €489,99, which is like $610, a lot more than the $529 you pay in America. But since I can get free/cheaper shipping to my APO address, I am wondering if I can buy a $529 Nexus One from a carrier in America like AT&T and just use my own sim card in it. Thanks.
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The $529 Nexus One you get in the US would come directly from Google, not from a carrier. Both variants of the phone will get you 3G on all carriers in Germany and most in the majority of Europe since they both have UMTS 2100. If you have any preference for which carrier to use it on when you're back in the US, you could make a decision based on that.
cmstlist said:
The $529 Nexus One you get in the US would come directly from Google, not from a carrier. Both variants of the phone will get you 3G on all carriers in Germany and most in the majority of Europe since they both have UMTS 2100. If you have any preference for which carrier to use it on when you're back in the US, you could make a decision based on that.
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tl; dr; -> Yes.
so, basically, yes, I can get the $529 one from Google and use it in Europe, using the SIM card I already have?
Correct. It's better to do that as you don't have to wait for Voda to **** about with the firmware.
Stevv said:
so, basically, yes, I can get the $529 one from Google and use it in Europe, using the SIM card I already have?
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Yes, and as cmstlist said, the decision of T-Mo vs ATnT would mainly depend on your preference of carrier back in the US, if at all.
Rusty! said:
Correct. It's better to do that as you don't have to wait for Voda to **** about with the firmware.
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AFAIK, Voda does not "**** about" with firmwares. Google rolls updates. Google has voluntarily decided to delay the European updates, to customise the stuff I guess.
rohandhruva said:
AFAIK, Voda does not "**** about" with firmwares. Google rolls updates. Google has voluntarily decided to delay the European updates, to customise the stuff I guess.
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Well. Vodafone wants to charge for tethering, so I guess they need some "add ons".
I thought the whole point of Nexus One was to make updates carrier-independent. Even now, the N1 sold by Vodafone is not branded anywhere right?
Well maybe it's not Voda dicking about, but for no apparent reason, someone somewhere is.
My US TMo handset needed exactly nothing doing to it to run refectly on Vodafone UK, yet apparently 2.2 (which of course runs fine) needs changes to work. Hmmmm.
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Well maybe it's not Voda dicking about, but for no apparent reason, someone somewhere is.
My US TMo handset needed exactly nothing doing to it to run refectly on Vodafone UK, yet apparently 2.2 (which of course runs fine) needs changes to work. Hmmmm.
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There's no "need" for changes, emergency calls and APNs are the official reason. But that's a load since everything works fine on Kang-o-rama for me.
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My handset originally came with EPF21B. The changes are not in the way the phone or the hardware works, they are cosmetic changes which are Europe-specific. For example the spellings, the date format etc. Customising those is probably what's causing the delay.
T-MO USA version has the frequencies you are looking for to use it in Europe.
Well mine has the correct UK spellings, correct date and time format. Probably something to do with setting the language to English (UK) more than any customistion being done.
rohandhruva said:
My handset originally came with EPF21B. The changes are not in the way the phone or the hardware works, they are cosmetic changes which are Europe-specific. For example the spellings, the date format etc. Customising those is probably what's causing the delay.
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No, it's not. It's about adding an accounting technique for the sharing of mobile internet. The locale didn't change and things like voice search or turn by turn navigation are added in application updates.
There's no reason to delay the OTA other than adding provider crap ware.
N1 in Europe
I'm in the Navy stationed in Greece and I bought my N1 in Jan. before moving here. I use a local sim with a 3G data plan and have no issues. The only thing is You won't be able to purchase apps unless you have an American sim. It's annoying to have to switch sims to update paid apps but that is the only problem I ran into. If you bought one on a plan from T Mobile the you'll be responsible for that bill. I would go the unlocked route or see if there are any for sale used.
You can use MarketAccess to install/update the protected apps without changing sims - http://amip.tools-for.net/wiki/android/marketaccess
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I'm in the Navy stationed in Greece and I bought my N1 in Jan. before moving here. I use a local sim with a 3G data plan and have no issues. The only thing is You won't be able to purchase apps unless you have an American sim. It's annoying to have to switch sims to update paid apps but that is the only problem I ran into. If you bought one on a plan from T Mobile the you'll be responsible for that bill. I would go the unlocked route or see if there are any for sale used.
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So, do you have to pay a lot for internet access while you are buying apps using your American sim?
Or can you not use Wi-fi to download apps?
Yes, you can use WiFi but afaik you still need that US SIM card inserted.
Also, check your PM
Hi all,
I'm about 90% sure that I'm going to buy the 64gb dev. HTC One. I'm still on Sprint but I think I'm done with them as they have seriously lost my confidence.
I don't have any experience with an unlocked phone that require a sim card and I'm kind of intimidated by that but I want to learn and see what kind of experience I have with an unlocked phone. I don't know how the whole sim card thing works and how it relates to Tmobile or At&t services, radio frequencies, 4glte, hspa+ etc.
I'm thinking of buying 2. One (no pun intended) for me and one for the wife. I guess my question is how do I make the transition from Sprint to Tmobile as quickly as and painless as possible. How do i explain an unlocked phone to my wife who also never been on another carrier other than sprint? What plan should I consider on Tmobile and or At&t. Which carrier's network is faster (I'm in Central NJ).
I understand the dev version has an unlocked bootloader. Does this mean it comes installed with a recovery and is it s-off / s-on?
I'm not a geek but I know how to flash roms/ kernels...basic sh*t you know.
If anyone can school me on what to expect form an unlocked phone and what I can do with it would be great. Will I be able to use sim cards from both tmobile and at&t on this phone?
Any help would be appreciated...
IIRC the Dev unit does not work on Sprint so you'd need to switch regardless.
You'll just have to get a new account and have them port the numbers over but you just won't be buying a phone on contract.
Most think it will have S-ON, but bootloader unlocked. This just means you can load ROMs, but they are locked to the kernel from HTC (not just any kernel which would be nice if you had S-OFF).
Yes, you can use a SIM from ATT and T-MO but remember that with T-MO unless you live in a new LTE zone or a refarmed 1900mhz HSPA+ band, you will be stuck with 2G speed.
htowngator said:
IIRC the Dev unit does not work on Sprint so you'd need to switch regardless.
You'll just have to get a new account and have them port the numbers over but you just won't be buying a phone on contract.
Most think it will have S-ON, but bootloader unlocked. This just means you can load ROMs, but they are locked to the kernel from HTC (not just any kernel which would be nice if you had S-OFF).
Yes, you can use a SIM from ATT and T-MO but remember that with T-MO unless you live in a new LTE zone or a refarmed 1900mhz HSPA+ band, you will be stuck with 2G speed.
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How do I find out if I'm in a re farmed 1900mhz HSPA+ area? Thanks for your help.
Anyone know how sim cards work?
help
i want buy htc with 2,5GHZ LTE version, where can i buy it on united states? miami or orlando...?
thanks very much
saco274 said:
How do I find out if I'm in a re farmed 1900mhz HSPA+ area? Thanks for your help.
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http://www.airportal.de/ -- map of 1900mhz
The SIM cards will be given to you by T-MO or ATT when you sign up.
htowngator said:
http://www.airportal.de/ -- map of 1900mhz
The SIM cards will be given to you by T-MO or ATT when you sign up.
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I see my good man. Thanks for all your help.
saco274 said:
I see my good man. Thanks for all your help.
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no problem, glad I could help
just go to T-MO or ATT store and tell them you have your own phone and simply want x-plan (whatever it is you're looking for)
obviously T-MO is nice for pre-paid, no contract, but unless you live in a new 1900mhz zone (or LTE) and the phone could possibly be flashed with t-mo's firmware (possibly opening up 1700) then stick with ATT
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no problem, glad I could help
just go to T-MO or ATT store and tell them you have your own phone and simply want x-plan (whatever it is you're looking for)
obviously T-MO is nice for pre-paid, no contract, but unless you live in a new 1900mhz zone (or LTE) and the phone could possibly be flashed with t-mo's firmware (possibly opening up 1700) then stick with ATT
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I just checked the refarmed 1900mhz map and I'm real close to i guess two towers. There's a **** load of them a few miles from me, but none at my address. Do you think I'll be able to pick up on that 1900mhz signal?
saco274 said:
I just checked the refarmed 1900mhz map and I'm real close to i guess two towers. There's a **** load of them a few miles from me, but none at my address. Do you think I'll be able to pick up on that 1900mhz signal?
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Wow, just checked all the area's where I usually go, NY (family), CT (work) and the 1900mhz is excellent except for where I live which is scattered but not that far away.
By they way, I just purchased 2 HTC One's. One for me and one for the wife! However, there on back order until they get there next shipment which they say is on the 24th of April. I'll keep you posted.
saco274 said:
I just checked the refarmed 1900mhz map and I'm real close to i guess two towers. There's a **** load of them a few miles from me, but none at my address. Do you think I'll be able to pick up on that 1900mhz signal?
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How close? If you're decently close to two towers you should be fine. To port your number from Sprint you will need to check four things,
1: Your account number. (Dial *2 for Sprint customer service from your Sprint phone for that)
2: Your account pin. (6-10 numbers)
3: If you have any time left on your Sprint contract. Keep in mind you most likely signed a 24 month contract, but upgrades roll around every 20 months. So even if you're elegible for upgrade there may still a early term fee from Sprint.
4 Basic information such as the main account holders name, billing address, etc.
Keep in mind that at the moment the 32 and 64gb versions are out of stock from HTC (for now) If you start up a new account on T-Mobile with unlocked devices you will be on what's called Month to Month pricing. This means that since you provided your own equipment, you will be able to cancel at any time with no termination fee. You will also have upgrades avalible from the get go since you didn't purchase subsidised equipment from them.
Good luck!
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How close? If you're decently close to two towers you should be fine. To port your number from Sprint you will need to check four things,
1: Your account number. (Dial *2 for Sprint customer service from your Sprint phone for that)
2: Your account pin. (6-10 numbers)
3: If you have any time left on your Sprint contract. Keep in mind you most likely signed a 24 month contract, but upgrades roll around every 20 months. So even if you're elegible for upgrade there may still a early term fee from Sprint.
4 Basic information such as the main account holders name, billing address, etc.
Keep in mind that at the moment the 32 and 64gb versions are out of stock from HTC (for now) If you start up a new account on T-Mobile with unlocked devices you will be on what's called Month to Month pricing. This means that since you provided your own equipment, you will be able to cancel at any time with no termination fee. You will also have upgrades avalible from the get go since you didn't purchase subsidised equipment from them.
Good luck!
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Wow, this is great information. From what I can see on the coverage maps the coverage is excellent. I just purchased 2 HTC One phones. However, as you said there out of stock and I'm on back order. I talked to representative and they said there next shipment of phones are not coming until the 24th of this month. Also. are the dev phones gsm phones as well?
saco274 said:
Wow, this is great information. From what I can see on the coverage maps the coverage is excellent. I just purchased 2 HTC One phones. However, as you said there out of stock and I'm on back order. I talked to representative and they said there next shipment of phones are not coming until the 24th of this month. Also. are the dev phones gsm phones as well?
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Fantastic! Yes, the Developer Edition is factory unlocked GSM There are two types of phone radios CDMA (Verizon, Sprint, Boost, etc) And GSM (At&t, T-Mobile, and basically every other international carrier) A locked phone is basically a phone configured to only accept a certain carriers network baseband. Unlocked is, well.. Unlocked! :laugh:
Acetherockr said:
Fantastic! Yes, the Developer Edition is factory unlocked GSM There are two types of phone radios CDMA (Verizon, Sprint, Boost, etc) And GSM (At&t, T-Mobile, and basically every other international carrier) A locked phone is basically a phone configured to only accept a certain carriers network baseband. Unlocked is, well.. Unlocked! :laugh:
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I'm so amped, can't wait!!!
Ok, the boot loader is unlocked but will i be able to achieve s-off on this bad boy. I have a EVO 4G LTE rooted s-off phone now but how does that work with unlocked phones? Also, you mentioned updates. Will they come straight from Google like they do on the nexus phone?
saco274 said:
I'm so amped, can't wait!!!
Ok, the boot loader is unlocked but will i be able to achieve s-off on this bad boy. I have a EVO 4G LTE rooted s-off phone now but how does that work with unlocked phones? Also, you mentioned updates. Will they come straight from Google like they do on the nexus phone?
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I don't think anyone has been able to get s-off this early, and if so it'd require access to a PC to use fastboot commands. Once more developers get their hands on one, it'll (hopefully) be a somewhat painless process. As far as updates go it will most likely be in the same boat as the carrier versions. One more reason having the a rooted dev version would be the bomb.com.
Enquiry
Dear Team
Anyone knows how to unlock HTC One, Carrier Sprint, USA
My phone also not asking for code when i insert the international sim.
aryanz said:
Dear Team
Anyone knows how to unlock HTC One, Carrier Sprint, USA
My phone also not asking for code when i insert the international sim.
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Trying asking in the Sprint One forum
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
Now that I know my Droid 3 will work, I tested it with a ATT gophone SIM after doing the radio flash and such but now I'm trying to get real service with a dataplan and it is hell.
They say I need a certain sim card (W7 sim card) and they seem to think it is a micro sim which the droid 3 doesn't have that. the phone support told me they could not mail me this type of card and the store people can't seem to bring up my information from the phone order and keep saying I need something else.
Keep getting the 'its not going to work' thing but obviously it will.
Did any one else in the states run into this trying to get your D3 on ATT with service other than gophone service? Trying get a 550 sharte plan and 3gb data plans for 2 phones, both are Droid 3s
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Now that I know my Droid 3 will work, I tested it with a ATT gophone SIM after doing the radio flash and such but now I'm trying to get real service with a dataplan and it is hell.
They say I need a certain sim card (W7 sim card) and they seem to think it is a micro sim which the droid 3 doesn't have that. the phone support told me they could not mail me this type of card and the store people can't seem to bring up my information from the phone order and keep saying I need something else.
Keep getting the 'its not going to work' thing but obviously it will.
Did any one else in the states run into this trying to get your D3 on ATT with service other than gophone service? Trying get a 550 sharte plan and 3gb data plans for 2 phones, both are Droid 3s
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You can buy sim adapters fairly cheap, if they sent you a micro sim, grab an adapter on ebay for a few bucks (usually comes in 3 packs for micro mini, and standard). Don't ask any customer service/corporate if it'll work, as by 'stock' the D3 does NOT support ATT (the mnc block Verizon has in the radio prevents this).
I have Straight Talk's BYOP service using AT&T's network on my Droid 3 and it works just fine (albeit hating ST ). If you want a go-phone plan, your cheapest option would be grabbing an ATT SIM from ebay (I bought one for a penny, trolol free shipping), and activated it on gophone awhile back when I was just first testing the radio swap, worked great, but I never tried doing much beyond a 10 dollar card for talk/text while away.
If you're trying to get on a contract, etc etc, I'd suggest you just don't tell them you have a verizon droid 3, tell them you just have an unlocked GSM phone, and if they bug you about it, tell them it's an XT860 4g or an XT883.
EDIT: You can also try just buying a SIM on ebay (make sure to get the newer orange ones) and just activating that on your AT&T account.
I had a free or discounted feature phone / dumb phone with them, with the 2 year contract, and I've used that SIM in subsequent phones with no problem... the SIM had 3G branding. Currently that same SIM and same account are working fine in my XT860 from Bell Canada (unlocked).
If you don't mind a contract, go with the simplest 3G feature phone you can get from them, and add Media.net Unlimited if they still offer it. Sell the feature phone or keep it as a backup.
I ran into the problem also with them saying I can't transfer my line because I now live in a different state. So I was give nthe option to go and sign up in that state OR send the sims to someone in that state....
what a pain. I never thought it was would be so difficult. If I'm going to get into a contract, I'll just get a new phone, I just fear that even though it seems to work with the ATT gophone SIM that once I pop a normal SIM in there, it won't work and I'll be switching to a contract and paying the 'upgrade' charge (which is really jut anoher way to make you pay the activation again)
That was my main fear.
I'm hoping they will let me just test a sim from another device at the store. I was going to show up with our phones radio flashed and ready to go for GSM and then see what they will do for me. I hope they;ll let me test it some how and/or let me sign up month to month and if it doesn't work, let me switch to contract and wave the upgrade BS.
thats the only thing I'm unsure of if I reflash to the GSM radio, take out my verizon SIM and show up with no sim. new build prop and it set to GSM before I show up if it will work or not.
bigbacon said:
I ran into the problem also with them saying I can't transfer my line because I now live in a different state. So I was give nthe option to go and sign up in that state OR send the sims to someone in that state....
what a pain. I never thought it was would be so difficult. If I'm going to get into a contract, I'll just get a new phone, I just fear that even though it seems to work with the ATT gophone SIM that once I pop a normal SIM in there, it won't work and I'll be switching to a contract and paying the 'upgrade' charge (which is really jut anoher way to make you pay the activation again)
That was my main fear.
I'm hoping they will let me just test a sim from another device at the store. I was going to show up with our phones radio flashed and ready to go for GSM and then see what they will do for me. I hope they;ll let me test it some how and/or let me sign up month to month and if it doesn't work, let me switch to contract and wave the upgrade BS.
thats the only thing I'm unsure of if I reflash to the GSM radio, take out my verizon SIM and show up with no sim. new build prop and it set to GSM before I show up if it will work or not.
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Welcome to the world of AT&T! Where they win worst in customer satisfaction 3 years running by consumer reports.
"Each year, Consumer Reports ranks all manner of U.S. wireless carriers based on customer satisfaction in a number of different categories. AT&T ranked dead last in the customer satisfaction survey for the third year in a row. It was hit with the worst rankings for any major carrier in value, voice quality, and customer support."
I'd suggest you go with a prepaid like Page Plus. I've used them, good flexible plans, friendly customer support, free ESN changes via online chat, no bull. Any Verizon phone outside of 'new' inpulse and blackberries can be activated (I've got Page Plus on my CDMA side and a *shudder* Straight Talk AT&T SIM on GSM in my Droid 3)
If you call customer service, you can usually get it activated for free, or find a 3rd party page plus dealer (I have a couple that do free instant activations). They're an MVNO of Verizon, so same network, but very much lower price. Verizon prepaid smartphone plan; 70USD for unlim talk/text and 1GB data. PagePlus? 55USD For unlim talk/text and 2GBs data, or 69.95 for 5GB of data, and buying online, no taxes either.
Anyway, luck to you. If you decide to go in-store, make sure your phone is completely GSM ready, leave the Verizon/Vodafone sim at home. Tell them it's GSM unlocked and it works on AT&T's network (mention you tested it, or let you test a SIM. I've *yet* to find a store that lets me test a sim though.)
The Droid 3 supports up to HSPA 14.4 on AT&T's network, I can get ~5.5Mbps, but I have noticed it's not as stable as Verizon, and calls drop, due to CDMA having better hand-off than GSM (CDMA actually connects to multiple towers at once for seamless handoff, GSM has to toss between the towers). Been awhile since I've really read into it, and I'm likely getting a bit technical...
for me, I can't even use verizon at home or anywhere with in a 30 mile+ radius. The ONLY carrier that has coverage out here is ATT and oddly, they have 4g coverage. My neighbors use them and the signal strength and data speeds are superb. There isn't another carrier.
I know straight talk and such might use ATT towers but I worry about the so called unlimited data and everything that really isn't unlimited.
I guess if one of those carrier actually use ATT towers then I guess I'm ok but how would I know without trying them out some how?
looks like straight talk no longer does ATT
net10 seems like you can still get ATT sims
I'm in WV and, again, ATT is the only provider that has voice and data coverage out here.
bigbacon said:
looks like straight talk no longer does ATT
net10 seems like you can still get ATT sims
I'm in WV and, again, ATT is the only provider that has voice and data coverage out here.
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Net10 at least came out and said there was a 1.5gb cap now on att. Albeit net10 and straighttalk are the exact same company. Outside of that, most any mvno of att is expensive, att itself is expensive, but you gotta use what you have to. Any that run on att will work on the d3 once modified to do so. Net10 and Red Pocket are the only two that come to mind at the moment, but do a bit of research and find a good one that fits your needs.
I have to search for a list since I'm reading now that some services like Net10 and such may use the ATT gohpone service area or they may use the normal service areas.
Can anyone confirm if Calls, SMS, MMS, and full Data and 3G coverage all work correctly on AT&T on the Droid 3 once unlocked?
think I'm going to try net10. $85 bucks a month to use the postpaid ATT network for 2 lines is alot better than 120 going with ATT and we don't use a lot of data. Looking back at our Verizon account over 6 months, we've never used even 1gb worth of data in a month. I can't find a chart or anything that shows which ones use the postpaid ATT network as I am up for other carriers other than net10 if they do.
seems like moving my number might be an issue though since I am no longer in PA.
braambo said:
Can anyone confirm if Calls, SMS, MMS, and full Data and 3G coverage all work correctly on AT&T on the Droid 3 once unlocked?
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I have a Bell Canada XT860, unlocked, and I use all of those except MMS, which I'm pretty sure would work too... I have the APN settings for it.
I am using a Droid 3 on At&t with the Medianet plan that only costs $10(if you're on an unlimited text plan).I'm getting speeds of
up to 5.5mb down and 1.5mb up. The speeds are better at night though.
If you want to use a prepaid GSM,the cheapest I've seen is Red Pockect that uses AT&T's network.They have unlimited talk,text &MMS.
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I am using a Droid 3 on At&t with the Medianet plan that only costs $10(if you're on an unlimited text plan).I'm getting speeds of
up to 5.5mb down and 1.5mb up. The speeds are better at night though.
If you want to use a prepaid GSM,the cheapest I've seen is Red Pockect that uses AT&T's network.They have unlimited talk,text &MMS.
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Do you have the XT860 or XT862?
I would be all over the XT862 if Jellybean was available in a ROM (100% working)
redsrule2500 said:
Do you have the XT860 or XT862?
I would be all over the XT862 if Jellybean was available in a ROM (100% working)
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i have an xt862 that i flashed with the chinese radio. I love it honestly,especially since I can have a decent android phone with keyboard + a cheap data plan.
id love to see ICS on the droid 3 but i know it wont happen,the phone is going on 2 years into its lifespan and that kind of age means DEATH in the phone industry .
PassingThruLife said:
i have an xt862 that i flashed with the chinese radio. I love it honestly,especially since I can have a decent android phone with keyboard + a cheap data plan.
id love to see ICS on the droid 3 but i know it wont happen,the phone is going on 2 years into its lifespan and that kind of age means DEATH in the phone industry .
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Oh yeah, that's my goal here in looking for a replacement for my Milestone 1. I just know that I won't be able to take full advantage of the device without the newer Android OS versions available, and that's too bad because everything else is perfect with this phone. So I'm basically sticking w/ the Milestone 1 on CM7 until something better becomes available. (Weird part is even my Milestone 1 can run JB 4.1 100%...!)
I honestly have no phone to get that meets my upgrade specifications for AT&T (JB, keyboard, global phone), aside from attempting the PhotonQ SIM Card Mod, which is a huge risk since I don't know if it will work on AT&T. Blah.
redsrule2500 said:
Oh yeah, that's my goal here in looking for a replacement for my Milestone 1. I just know that I won't be able to take full advantage of the device without the newer Android OS versions available, and that's too bad because everything else is perfect with this phone. So I'm basically sticking w/ the Milestone 1 on CM7 until something better becomes available. (Weird part is even my Milestone 1 can run JB 4.1 100%...!)
I honestly have no phone to get that meets my upgrade specifications for AT&T (JB, keyboard, global phone), aside from attempting the PhotonQ SIM Card Mod, which is a huge risk since I don't know if it will work on AT&T. Blah.
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LOL I have spent some time thinking about the Photon Q,you can buy one with a bad ESN for around $120... but I am not that handy and taking apart the phone kind of scares me.
I'd be happy with a Photon Q for a while tho.
PassingThruLife said:
LOL I have spent some time thinking about the Photon Q,you can buy one with a bad ESN for around $120... but I am not that handy and taking apart the phone kind of scares me.
I'd be happy with a Photon Q for a while tho.
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Wow, that's so tempting. Didn't realize they would be that cheap.
It could be a fun project, as long as I don't screw it up completely....but I also would feel bad about owning a device which was most likely stolen.
redsrule2500 said:
Wow, that's so tempting. Didn't realize they would be that cheap.
It could be a fun project, as long as I don't screw it up completely....but I also would feel bad about owning a device which was most likely stolen.
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Well "bad ESN" doesnt always mean stolen,could also mean the person owes money and the phone is blacklisted till they pay it.
My Droid 3 had a bad ESN but it was because I lost my job and couldn't afford to pay Verizon's ridiculous prices. My income was literally cut in half.
Question....I bought my Nexus 6 from Verizon, rooted it, did the whole OEM Unlock....
I'm flying to Europe (Germany, Austria, Italy, and Greece) in 40 days to visit family, and Verizon's International Rates are ridiculous. My brother told me about http://www.knowroaming.com/, but on the site it states that you must have an Unlocked GSM phone. Would this still work on the Nexus 6? The other option I have is using a T-Mo SIM card in Europe since my brother works for them and he said he could simply give me one.
I guess my question...in order of what's best:
1: The KnowRoaming SIM option
2: T-Mo SIM
I'll have access to WiFi all over Germany and Austria, but will depend more on the Mobile Web in Italy and Greece. I'll use Google Hangouts to chat with my family in the U.S. while I'm abroad, but still need access to make calls in an emergency.
All Nexus 6 are unlocked GSM.
Ok, that's what I thought....I just know that Verizon is KNOWN for mucking stuff up and locking things down, so I wasn't sure.
tdetroit said:
Ok, that's what I thought....I just know that Verizon is KNOWN for mucking stuff up and locking things down, so I wasn't sure.
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They are indeed, however the Nexus 6 from them is untouched in regards to bootloaders and hardware - so it's the same as every other
danarama said:
All Nexus 6 are unlocked GSM.
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Except the AT&T variant. The AT&T carrier lock is "unlockable" after the device has been paid off.
cam30era said:
Except the AT&T variant. The AT&T carrier lock is "unlockable" after the device has been paid off.
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Thanks for confirming that. I even knew that once
Well, leaving in less than 2 weeks. My brother has a T-Mo SIM card for me with 10GB of data. I don't need Voice since I'll call home to the U.S. using WiFi from his house in the evenings and in an emergency I can use his phone to call home if we're not near WiFi. Hopefully the T-Mo SIM is recognized without any hiccups.
tdetroit said:
Well, leaving in less than 2 weeks. My brother has a T-Mo SIM card for me with 10GB of data. I don't need Voice since I'll call home to the U.S. using WiFi from his house in the evenings and in an emergency I can use his phone to call home if we're not near WiFi. Hopefully the T-Mo SIM is recognized without any hiccups.
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You may only have to change the APN settings but it will work as long as it is activated.
graydiggy said:
You may only have to change the APN settings but it will work as long as it is activated.
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Yes, that's what I thought. My brother actually works for T-Mo and has the proper APN Info for me so we can enter it as soon as I touch down in Munich. I've also decided to leave my DSLR at home and use the Nexus as my only Camera while I'm out there.
Anybody have a list of bands yet? Wondering if all or most of verizon bands are on device! Any info will be appreciated!
oneandroidnut said:
Anybody have a list of bands yet? Wondering if all or most of verizon bands are on device! Any info will be appreciated!
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I'm based in UK so I don't know so much about American networks. However I didn't think Verizon used SIM cards? My understanding is that this phone only works via aim cards?
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rav101 said:
I'm based in UK so I don't know so much about American networks. However I didn't think Verizon used SIM cards? My understanding is that this phone only works via aim cards?
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Yes we have sim cards lol never heard of anybody not using sim cards here in states yet
oneandroidnut said:
Yes we have sim cards lol never heard of anybody not using sim cards here in states yet
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My apologies, this was my misunderstanding around CDMA tailored devices.
I had conflated CDMA with a version of using eSIM or something of that nature.
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rav101 said:
My apologies, this was my misunderstanding around CDMA tailored devices.
I had conflated CDMA with a version of using eSIM or something of that nature.
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they are trying to go esim, i think everybody here in the states is
To answer your question, data will work on verizon in some areas, but voice won't. Same with all Huawei flagships of late.
Your only hope would be rooting and perhaps enabling VoLTE on verizon, in which case there's a small chance you could get it working.
oneandroidnut said:
Yes we have sim cards lol never heard of anybody not using sim cards here in states yet
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Verizon uses the SIM card only for 4g data, LTE, but for voice it still uses CDMA. I really don't understand why Verizon and Sprint continue using this system, they seem to be the only one in the world with China and maybe some other areas, but most of the countries rely fully on GSM for both data and voice. This is the reason why the p20 pro will only work for data on Verizon but not for voice unless, and just maybe, you use a Chinese version I think the L00 model that uses CDMA too.
eoga said:
Verizon uses the SIM card only for 4g data, LTE, but for voice it still uses CDMA. I really don't understand why Verizon and Sprint continue using this system, they seem to be the only one in the world with China and maybe some other areas, but most of the countries rely fully on GSM for both data and voice. This is the reason why the p20 pro will only work for data on Verizon but not for voice unless, and just maybe, you use a Chinese version I think the L00 model that uses CDMA too.
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Very interesting because the U11 doesn't have cdma either but voice works on it over LTE. If we could get that on the P20 we would be in business
oneandroidnut said:
Very interesting because the U11 doesn't have CDMA either but voice works on it over LTE. If we could get that on the P20 we would be in business
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You are right. It seems like now Verizon is trying to use only services through LTE like VOLTE and is trying to turn off its old cdma network.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/06/htc-u11-can-used-verizon-even-without-cdma-support.html
Even though it seems like for this the cellphones need to go through Verizon approval and they are not 100% functional like it would be with ATT and Tmobile, which network is 100% GSM/LTE. You can see on the link below that the phone was only approved to use one band on Verizon which could cause really poor service.
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/942418
Knowing this and all the issue between Huawei and EEUU government I seriously doubt this approval would happen, but who knows.
eoga said:
You are right. It seems like now Verizon is trying to use only services through LTE like VOLTE and is trying to turn off its old cdma network.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/06/htc-u11-can-used-verizon-even-without-cdma-support.html
Even though it seems like for this the cellphones need to go through Verizon approval and they are not 100% functional like it would be with ATT and Tmobile, which network is 100% GSM/LTE. You can see on the link below that the phone was only approved to use one band on Verizon which could cause really poor service.
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/942418
Knowing this and all the issue between Huawei and EEUU government I seriously doubt this approval would happen, but who knows.
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On the U11 it had 2 of the 3 verizon LTE bands I think it was missing 13 maybe? If i could get 2 out of the 3 bands to work on the P20 Pro I would probably try it
oneandroidnut said:
On the U11 it had 2 of the 3 verizon LTE bands I think it was missing 13 maybe? If i could get 2 out of the 3 bands to work on the P20 Pro I would probably try it
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I think you missed the point in the last link I posted. There it is mentioned that the cell phone has most of Verizon bands if not all but only 13 was authorized to be used and this was what causes many of the issues with the U11 on Verizon network.
eoga said:
I think you missed the point in the last link I posted. There it is mentioned that the cell phone has most of Verizon bands if not all but only 13 was authorized to be used and this was what causes many of the issues with the U11 on Verizon network.
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My pixel says NONVZW on my verizon website and works fine maybe I will get p20 pro or mi mix 2s and try it and see
oneandroidnut said:
My pixel says NONVZW on my Verizon website and works fine maybe I will get p20 pro or mi mix 2s and try it and see
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Your Pixel says NONVZW because it was not bought directly on Verizon but it is a cell phone that is configured to work on both GSM and CDMA including full compatibility with Verizon so it shouldn't be considered as the same than P20 pro but if you still want to do it go ahead and good luck.
Anytime the same discussion. Thia phone is not official supported by Verizon. It will work on GSM Based Networks. But not on CDMA.
guy your wrong
oneandroidnut said:
Yes we have sim cards lol never heard of anybody not using sim cards here in states yet
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who ever said the US did not have sims is right.
at one point in time the cdma guys did not have a sim card and in some phones still to this day out there they may or may not have a sim. if the person buying the phone gets bull **** from the sales person and buys a locked phone good changes are they may or may not have a sim.
now update to this day.
most if not all companys here have a sim now. they were forced by company's over seas and other gsm company's here being cheaper and no locking you down to a pay over 2 year plan that you more or less are selling a kid to the company to pay the bill.
but I love the fact that we get sims now. If they tryed to pull that bull **** with me now lol.
Kawar3 said:
who ever said the US did not have sims is right.
at one point in time the cdma guys did not have a sim card and in some phones still to this day out there they may or may not have a sim. if the person buying the phone gets bull **** from the sales person and buys a locked phone good changes are they may or may not have a sim.
now update to this day.
most if not all companys here have a sim now. they were forced by company's over seas and other gsm company's here being cheaper and no locking you down to a pay over 2 year plan that you more or less are selling a kid to the company to pay the bill.
but I love the fact that we get sims now. If they tryed to pull that bull **** with me now lol.
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Ummm I have had a sim card for 10 years now in a smartphone but we don't have them oh ok sure buddy i mean 50 years ago we didnt have sim cards or internet lol
What was the outcome of this discussion? OP, did you ever get to work?
Kawar3 said:
who ever said the US did not have sims is right.
at one point in time the cdma guys did not have a sim card and in some phones still to this day out there they may or may not have a sim. if the person buying the phone gets bull **** from the sales person and buys a locked phone good changes are they may or may not have a sim.
now update to this day.
most if not all companys here have a sim now. they were forced by company's over seas and other gsm company's here being cheaper and no locking you down to a pay over 2 year plan that you more or less are selling a kid to the company to pay the bill.
but I love the fact that we get sims now. If they tryed to pull that bull **** with me now lol.
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It's got nothing to do with that. CDMA does not require a sim, never has. LTE is what the sim is for because LTE is actually a GSM technology.
I dont know alot about the U11 but from what I could see from a quick search it actually does have all the Verizon LTE bands including 13. 13 is the most important one because its verizon main LTE band.
Guess which band the P20 pro doesn't have...13. It probably will not work and even if you could somehow manage to get it to. it probably wouldn't be a very good expensive, but if you want to spend 700 bucks to try to prove us all wrong more power to you.
oneandroidnut said:
Ummm I have had a sim card for 10 years now in a smartphone but we don't have them oh ok sure buddy i mean 50 years ago we didnt have sim cards or internet lol
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unless you didnt get a mobile phone until like 6-7 years ago...you would know that prior to that Verizon was primarily only CDMA and DID NOT USE SIM CARDS.
you are simply showing your age or lack of experience with mobile phones when you assume Verizon has always had sim cards...which is simply not true.
CraigP17 said:
unless you didnt get a mobile phone until like 6-7 years ago...you would know that prior to that Verizon was primarily only CDMA and DID NOT USE SIM CARDS.
you are simply showing your age or lack of experience with mobile phones when you assume Verizon has always had sim cards...which is simply not true.
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how long ago did they not have sim cards??? 10-15 years maybe?? Everything phone from 2008??? and on has had a sim card