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[Q] is 720p video possible?

i think someone talked about this before but i can't find the thread in searches. is it completely impossible to get 720p video out of the milestone?

likely possible, just depends on how many frames you would like per second...
The camera seems to be high enough quality to capture the pixels you require but the phone may not be able to process/compress the video stream, given the frame rate you may desire.
I'm not totally sure, but I imagine that's going to be the overall consensus.

Cannot be done.
I believe the phone itself couldn't keep up.

No enough hardware for 720p on milestone

hefonthefjords said:
i think someone talked about this before but i can't find the thread in searches. is it completely impossible to get 720p video out of the milestone?
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I believe once you root the phone and overclock the hardware, it should run video at 720p

iltimonster said:
I believe once you root the phone and overclock the hardware, it should run video at 720p
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is this true?
how would u go about enabling 720p video recording?
that would be awesome!
i have already rooted and overclocked to 900mhz

I don't know if is it possible since we can't even play 720p .mkv videos, which I believe needs less cpu/ram power than recording 720p videos in high frame rate.
Furthermore, Milestone's camera isn't that good at all, why you would want to record a 720p video with a bad camera sensor?

with camera.apk change this is possible?

Playing 720p files is perfectly possible, but recording, hmm maybe at 24 or less FPS so why bother I prefer D1 at 24+ FPS, than laggy 720p,

It should be 720p video recording min requirements are 30 fps rate. Nexus one at best have 25fps. Our phone runs from 30 without root even motorola has specs sheet.. I think it was Verizon who told Motorola not to add 720P video recording. Just to make users upgrade to Droid Incredible and Droid x . In the Froyo update to Droid Last Summer. Milestone will get 720 p video recording in the new update 2.2 os in Europe. You can always talk to Matt from Motorola to verified my statement.
hefonthefjords said:
i think someone talked about this before but i can't find the thread in searches. is it completely impossible to get 720p video out of the milestone?
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cry3200 said:
Playing 720p files is perfectly possible, but recording, hmm maybe at 24 or less FPS so why bother I prefer D1 at 24+ FPS, than laggy 720p,
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Hi cry3200, could you tell me how do you play 720p .mkv videos??
It's the only thing I wish my Milestone could do and can't get it done. My videos don't play flawlessly whatever video-player/settings I've tried.
I only get 720p+ videos and I would love to play them in my Milestone without having to encode them in lower quality...

Hi there,
first off all i don't need this feature on my phone...
It doesn't make sense to me if the video resolution is higher than the display resolution.
Anyway, no doubt it is quite interesting thing from the technical point of view.
At least some things should be fulfilled:
- hardware support for 720p
- enough bandwitdh on the memory subsystem
- application to handle HD video files
So i took a look into the processors datasheet:
Code:
· XGA - 1024 ´ 768 VESA timings at 60 fps (pixel clock = 63.5 MHz)
· WXGA - 1280 ´ 800 VESA timings at 59.91 fps (pixel clock = 71 MHz)
· SXGA+ - 1400 ´ 1050 direct drive of LCD with minimal blanking at 50 fps (pixel clock = 75
MHz)
· HD 720p - 1280 ´ 720 CEA 861-D timings at 60 fps (pixel clock = 74.25 MHz)
Looks like hardware would basically supporting this.
From my point of view the rest of hardware should be powerful enough to handle it as well (at least it is a SoC with PoP memory).
There's also a high speed connection to the display.
Last but not least the CPU is very similar too the one used on beagleboard.
AFAIK you may play HD on this hardware.
IMHO there might be some trouble on the milestone because of the resolution missmatch.
Please correct me if i'm wrong!
Regards,
scholbert

Babis_ECE said:
Hi cry3200, could you tell me how do you play 720p .mkv videos??
It's the only thing I wish my Milestone could do and can't get it done. My videos don't play flawlessly whatever video-player/settings I've tried.
I only get 720p+ videos and I would love to play them in my Milestone without having to encode them in lower quality...
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Just use VPlayer, set the quality in options to Speed or High Quality, and experiment with the buffer for different container types, MKV files should not exceed your card speed I use a class 10 card but the stock is a class 2, but usually I use MP4 720p files that I encode from MKV 1080p, I encode on the GPU so by the time I drink a coffe and smoke a cigarette its almost encoded, original MKV 720p has some audio/video sync issues with VPlayer so I dont use them, but if you overclock to 1.2 or 1.25GHz the sync problems are gone, I dont really remember a bit rate to tell you for encoding, but try with 2000-3000kb/s and see if it works I usually use between 3000-4000kb/s with my card
Just experiment,
EDIT: Forgot to mention, not all of the movies encoded play flawlessly but I'd say that 90 percent of them work, but keep in mind you need to overclock to 1GHz minimum so if you don't want to do that it wont work, and use FroyoMod cause its the fastest and most stable rom available, Gingerbread has problems with VPlayer it just crashes; but the problem is VPlayer itself

Thank you for your answer.
- The only reason i wanted this to work out-of-the-box is to not have to encode, etc.. Just copy the files in SD Card and press Play..
- I am always in 1.1GHz, I will try 1.2GHz..
- I encoded a couple of 720p .mkv files in MP4 with excellent (same I think..) quality with Handbrake and they played absolutely fine in Milestone. I just want to avoid this encoding process.
I will follow your advice and see what happens. First of all I guess I have to change the stock mSD with one faster.

Thanks for all the replies regarding this. I just figured that since the camera sensor has the pixels it should be able to fire out the extra res. I'm not concerned with the screen mismatch as the videos don't get played back on device, they get put on my computer and youtibe, both of which will benefit from the extra pixels.
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Horrible H.264 decoding

I'm not sure that how many people at here know this fact.
Tegra 2's H.264 decoding is waaaay worse than Hummingbird(Galaxy S)
It cannot run any HD H.264 video HP.

Source?
Tegra2 can decode 720p at AVC HP and 1080p at AVC MP with reasonable/usually bitrates at 30p.
€dit: Just seen that u have the korean model, right? AFAIK the LG-Player isn't supporting the mkv-container,
allthough Tegra 2 would be up for the task (at 720p30 HP) as mentioned earlyer.

You will find out when you get O2X
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I think with VLC or RockPlayer you can probably see a difference

How does x264 perform?

I think its the same issue as Adam had with the video/audio desync. Its not a hardware limitation.

I don't get it. I've tried various videos and none of them work properly. However, the demo video files that were on the device (1080p) run perfectly. No frame-skipping at all.
Is there something I'm missing?

I was kind of baffled by this too.
Brilliant playback on the included 1080p files.
So i thought yay lets grab some 1080p trailers from youtube with tubemate.
But alass. not very smooth! Think its indeed the profile that does the trick. or in this case, doesnt.
Next thought. Ok rockplayer will help me out here!.
But i wasnt too impressed with rock on my galaxy s either!.
Loaded rock. but also very crappy. Which is when u think of it, pretty logical.
Why? No hardware support! Rock doesnt even remotely know what a tegra2 soc is. and in fact, NONE of all the video apps do.
So in stead of funky tegra2 hardware decoding, you get software playback.
Ive heard some rumors about nvidia developing an android video player for tegra but i dont know if this is true or not at all.
so unless someone makes a proper video playback app (which in my opinion is way over due already! no offence but theyre all crap if u ask me!) which supports hardware playback AND tegra2 soc, it wont improve very much.
My 2 cents
Ok some more info, apperently Tegra2 isnt very great with high profile encoded. baseline and main profiles should work. more testing to do. Also everything below 1080p high profile should kind of play properly. My eyes are on VLC for android and fingers crossed for them to bring tegra2 suppot and their own great codec sets

Check the Motorola Atrix forum, on XDA (sorry cant link from mobile app), they have basically given up on playing hd h264 files on tegra 2. Such a shame.
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Yes indeed. It sucks ass. I have the same unit but then from T-Mobile Netherlands. Video included works like a charm (ofcourse) but own added videos look like they are in slowmotion. 720p, 1080p doesn't mattter same issue.
Extra added flaw? When your record video in Full HD it does not play back on Full HD TV's or BD players. I checked why and found that it actually records in 1920x1088p!!!! Yes 1088P people.
FOTA updates are also not working for the T-Mobile branded unit. Comes back with validation error.

Tegra 2 limitation
Some search on the internet revealed that Tegra 2 supports fully h.264 main profile, but for high profile, it is only 720p 6MB/s, which is then not suitable for a BD. Anyway, I don't have the intention to fill in my 32 GB of storage with just one movie...
Recording in 1088p instead of 1080p is a bit more annoying, you think there could be a solution for that?
Tom

TheGoD said:
Source?
Tegra2 can decode 720p at AVC HP and 1080p at AVC MP with reasonable/usually bitrates at 30p.
€dit: Just seen that u have the korean model, right? AFAIK the LG-Player isn't supporting the mkv-container,
allthough Tegra 2 would be up for the task (at 720p30 HP) as mentioned earlyer.
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Yeah MVK-files can be played with other videoplayers on Market but I've read in reviews that it's awfully "laggy". Saw a video where they tried to play mvk in RockPlayer, i think it was, and damn... looked like 1fps!

I tried to play a mkv file yesterday with the build-in player which crashed my phone.
I installed qqplayer and am pretty satisfied with the result.

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I tried to play a mkv file yesterday with the build-in player which crashed my phone.
I installed qqplayer and am pretty satisfied with the result.
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What kind of mkv did you try? 1080p?

I keep saying its a software issue causing all these troubles, i have a Adam and since the latest update i saw a improvement on the video playback.
Once we get proper support for mkv it will be awsome

LeviathanPT said:
I keep saying its a software issue causing all these troubles, i have a Adam and since the latest update i saw a improvement on the video playback.
Once we get proper support for mkv it will be awsome
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Do you have a video of the adam playing back mkv?

You can search in the thread @ my sig for " Notion Ink Adam Qi Vs Motorola Xoom by Inspiron41 "
I can add that any file that i have MKV to be played has to have the extension changed to AVI and only QQPlayer can run them, if the sound quality is high more than 2 channels the fps rate will be low this happens with either 720p or 1080p. But if i try to run a MP4 file with 1080p it runs very smooth with audio and video sync, so for me its a issue with decoding of MKV.
Oh and the Adam is running froyo no multiprocessor support neither the video apps do.

[q] video laggy and stutters

Is this a common problem with all the Tab 8.9's or is it just me. I have a bone stock new Tab and when I try and play youtube or other videos, it stops every couple seconds and lags ... Wallpapers all look pixelated no matter what resolution I download ...I love the Tab so far, but things that should operate without too much tweaking or manipulation seem to require a lot of work to get working correctly. I hope I dont regret the decision of not getting an Ipad

Im sorry to tell you, but all Tegra 2 devices are unable to play 720p or 1080p videos without stutter. Even with an OCd Cpu it wont (some people say, but theyre desperate just like all of us..)
Other dual cores can because they have something integrated, that we call NEON. So its not about the cpu speed at all, its about a missing function, to decode HD material (overall video material, but the cpu can handle low resolution vids).
Some codecs on the market (for ex. BSplayer) can help but it'll still be a bit laggy.
EDIT: It is possible to play 720p or 1080p videos. You have to convert the video to H.264 Baseline profile. With that, it should work.
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Try mxplayer. I found anything I recorded on my S2 would stutter like mad when played back on my tab but since mxplayer upgraded and added the hw+ decoder it plays perfect. As for youtube this problem has come up since the ICS update and not much you can do about it sorry
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[Q] hd videos 1080p freeze

hi i recently purchased my lg optimus 2x in general i am very happy with my smartphone the only issue i have is when i try to play hd 1080p videos either with mx player or mobo the videos go very slow i tried the same thing on a samsung galaxy s2 and the videos worked flawlesly any recomendations how to fix that issue?

did you install mx player codecs for tegra 2? (you have them on play store as well)

yes i installed MX Player Codec (ARMv7) these are the ones anything else i can't believe that i am the only one who is experiencing this problem

Same problem... Codecs are installed for tegra 2 but video framerate is catastrophic.
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda app-developers app

hightmare said:
yes i installed MX Player Codec (ARMv7) these are the ones anything else i can't believe that i am the only one who is experiencing this problem
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you're not the only one... 1080p lags on my phone as well (MX Player too)... but i rarely play anything thats over 720p so i don't mind...

hightmare said:
hi i recently purchased my lg optimus 2x in general i am very happy with my smartphone the only issue i have is when i try to play hd 1080p videos either with mx player or mobo the videos go very slow i tried the same thing on a samsung galaxy s2 and the videos worked flawlesly any recomendations how to fix that issue?
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use software decoder in mx player an also install armv7 codec for mx player.

hightmare said:
hi i recently purchased my lg optimus 2x in general i am very happy with my smartphone the only issue i have is when i try to play hd 1080p videos either with mx player or mobo the videos go very slow i tried the same thing on a samsung galaxy s2 and the videos worked flawlesly any recomendations how to fix that issue?
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Try to clear memory, hold home button then 'stop all'.

You made the mistake of buying this phone.
Anyway try Dice player, I find it superior to all other players

ermacwins said:
You made the mistake of buying this phone.
Anyway try Dice player, I find it superior to all other players
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every device has its pros and cons buddy....this phone is completely unbrickable and has its own BIG advantages.....
it is better to give solutions than make mockery.....
Thanks for the understanding mate

hightmare said:
hi i recently purchased my lg optimus 2x in general i am very happy with my smartphone the only issue i have is when i try to play hd 1080p videos either with mx player or mobo the videos go very slow i tried the same thing on a samsung galaxy s2 and the videos worked flawlesly any recomendations how to fix that issue?
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Did you try with standard LG Fotocamera? I never had fullhd problems with froyo/GB/CM7/ICS

Nvidia tegra 2 cannot decode x264 or h264 formats @ 1080P resolution. Try converting the videos to MPEG-4 @ 1080 Resolution.

SREEPRAJAY said:
every device has its pros and cons buddy....this phone is completely unbrickable and has its own BIG advantages.....
it is better to give solutions than make mockery.....
Thanks for the understanding mate
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No one phone on its same 'league/level' had a worse problem this carp, ie SGS2
You must be blind if you didnt read where I gave him a possible solution to try Dice Player

wals46 said:
Did you try with standard LG Fotocamera? I never had fullhd problems with froyo/GB/CM7/ICS
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No problems with fullhd videos, recorded on camera. We are talking about movies downloaded to phone i.e. mkv or mp4 fullhd movies.
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda app-developers app

asmerito said:
No problems with fullhd videos, recorded on camera. We are talking about movies downloaded to phone i.e. mkv or mp4 fullhd movies.
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Yes, i do encode and decode movies. SO AFAIK, tegra 2 cannot decode h264 codec.

Tegra 2 can decode 1080p coded in low profile. Medium and commonly used high profile are not supported. You can google what choices you can set up to have low profile video. Very good SW for recoding videos is handbrake. I wish you good luck with searching best encode configuration.

i downloaded the iron man 2 trailer 1080p hd video here's the LINK
i'm using mx player, temasek final build rom and stefan final symbiosis kernel
the video is sluggish to play and the sound is not matching when stark open his mouth for now i didn't using ICS rom or cm10
i also try to play the video in different decoder included on the mx player but it doesn't work

You can run 720p or 1080p fluid.. spawndk from the eepad transformer forum:
"The Tegra2 chipset are designed as a mobile sollution chipset - to support web 2 standards. The highest encoding profile used here (Youtube 1080p) are 1080p baseline and this the Tegra2 chipset will both record and play with no troubles. As well as 720p baseline and main profile - but only upto L3.1 with some limitations. It doesnt matter which container is used (mkv, mp4, m4v, avi etc) and it doesnt matter if resolution are 1080p - its only a matter of the encoding profile used to encode the supported video format H264
Tegra2 will NEVER be able to decode High profile L4.1 encodes - it's not a software issue, neither in terms of Honeycomb or Nvidia libs, its simply a limitation of the abilities of the hardwaredecoder in the Tegra2 chipset and this will never change. It is also not a limitation in the Transformer specifically, but a limitation in ALL Tegra2 based tablets and mobilephones.
This is the same reason why some mediaplayers like the Boxee Box that was originally intended to use the Tegra2 moved on to an Intel chipset before launch.
In short the Tegra2 chipset will support playback of videos encoded in 1080p or 720p resolution, using the H264 video codec and AAC audio codec - as long as the video are encoded after the baseline profile standard
It will not now or ever - play 1080p/720p encodes encoded after the high profile standard."
So basically, you have to reencode videos just like on ipad..

you should reencode to low profile, high profile is for blu-ray device or PC. don't know maybe exynos 5 can play high profile [email protected] with handheld.

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[Q] Can it play high bitrate 1080p videos?

I am thinking of getting this phone. I would like to know if it can play high bitrate MKV/MP4/TP/TS video files (like music videos of 1GB size). Anyone tried this yet?
I would also like to know if it can handle 10bit videos as well though I think this will be based on the app/player....
Thanks!
4sashi got loads of HQ music videos which you can try

Video quality in this phone is satisfactory. I'm playing some 1080 HD videos/movies with MX player and Movies app with no problems so far... Out of topic..can you give me a site which has HD quality pictures?

Sorry i dont have a site for that. Would you mind if you download something from the bluray mvs from 4sashi and try it out in sp?

cmon guys
need your help on this

The 1080p videos recorded by the SP are of 20mbps bitrate (much higher than most movies/tv episodes) and they play back just fine
I watched some game of thrones 1080p episodes, 2.2gb in size each and they played fine

khestoi said:
cmon guys
need your help on this
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Dude my internet is too slow to download blu-ray vids, but i downloaded some 1080p 60fps vids. I'll try it later.

thanks guys
will be waiting for more updates regarding the 60fps video you mentioned
i will also try to look for shops with demo units

ZakooZ said:
The 1080p videos recorded by the SP are of 20mbps bitrate (much higher than most movies/tv episodes) and they play back just fine
I watched some game of thrones 1080p episodes, 2.2gb in size each and they played fine
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You can play videos with 40mbps bitrate,
but 1080p 60fps videos are freezing and bouncing on stock player

i am really interested to know if it can handle music videos (1 gigabytes in file size)....
I have a couple of TS and TP files with file sizes of 1-2 gigabytes and based on media info, they have an average of 36000kbps bit rate. (note they are only music videos of around 3-5 minutes in length)
i am just too lazy to convert my video files thats why i am asking this.
even my e8400 is suffering from frame skips when trying to play them :cyclops:
anyways im off to check this phone for myself hehe

khestoi said:
thanks guys
will be waiting for more updates regarding the 60fps video you mentioned
i will also try to look for shops with demo units
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I played some 1920 x 1080 videos and it worked fine.
However, my phone can't handle the video with 1080p 60fps.The Audio skips and the video is quite laggy ..
The only phone i know that can play heavy 4k videos so far is the Z1

ok so i went ahead got this phone
it just cant play some of my videos hehehe
i used mxplayer by the way
oh well just need to convert them again...
thanks guys
still i am quite satisfied with this phone
now i need to root my phone..... and some other stuff

Plays 1080p
I have Xperia SP,I've tested a couple 1080p videos that I downloaded,ran them pretty well;no problems
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I've had a Galaxy mini 2 and I rooted and unrooted it,but My new SP;don't think that I'm gonna root it

After a year using this phone...
1-Support 720p & 1080p up to 40Mbps bitrate(BluRay.ts using MX player with custom codec)
2-Support 720p at 60fps without lagging both on MX player or Stock player (Bravia might not working,Work only on first 10 second)