Somehow I screwed up the setup of my tilt, and the tilt thought it was syncing with 2 different computers with the same name, but I only sync with my laptop. I fixed that, and the tilt thinks it syncs with only one computer.
I have two email accounts: both are active, but are pretty much interchangeable. Both accounts put emails into the same Outlook inbox. Before I fixed the problem mentioned above, I had three email folders or accounts on my tilt. One got email from my first account, one got email from my second account, and one was what I had on my laptop. When I would sync up, the emails in the first and second account would disappear and be moved to the account called "Outlook." That was fine with me. I file all my emails on the laptop, so no problems. The only glitch was I couldn't reply from emails filed in the Outlook box, but I fixed that. But now the emails in my first account aren't moving over, so that inbox on the tilt is filling up, and the emails are duplicated in my Outlook inbox on the tilt. I can't figure out how to get my first account to sync up. Can anyone help me? Do I need to create a 'second' computer again?
Thanks again for all the help here.
Phil
Ummm try this I don't know if it will help. But open up your Outlook Inbox
Hit Menu
Tools
Manage Folders
There should be boxes in there that may not be checked. Check them and see if that helps your problem.
I don't seem to have the Manage Folders option.
I've looked around a lot but I can't find this specific issue mentioned.
My Diamond currently syncs well with my outlook, which receives emails from a few accounts and aggregates them in one inbox. This is good because I'm able to take them with me anywhere.
What I want is for the Diamond to also be able to download mail from my gmail account - which it does without a hitch - but this means I won't get that email in my desktop inbox. When connecting the device and starting activesync, it will pull new messages from my desktop index, but instead of moving the gmail stuff to the desktop, it just deletes all messages completely and there's no trace of them anywhere.
Is there a way to attach an account to the "outlook inbox" so that the gmail mails I download are added to it instead of to a new account? If not, is there any way to synchronize that new account to my desktop inbox instead?
This sounds very trivial, but I can't get it to work.
I am using Dutty's latest ROM (3.6b).
Email settings...
Have a look in your email settings on your device for your gmail account. At the bottom of one of the pages you'll see underlined 'Advanced Settings'. Tap on this and change the setting to 'Leave on server'. This way, you can receive it on your device, but when you check your mail back at your desktop, it will be there too.
Look under Send/Receive Settings?
That's the option currently set, and it does indeed leave the messages on gmail, but they are not automatically downloaded to my desktop if they were already downloaded to the Diamond.
I don't understand why it doesn't synchronize them with outlook on my computer...
Oh?
Spiral Architect said:
That's the option currently set, and it does indeed leave the messages on gmail, but they are not automatically downloaded to my desktop if they were already downloaded to the Diamond.
I don't understand why it doesn't synchronize them with outlook on my computer...
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I'm sure why that is then. I use Tiscali email, and that downloads to my desktop whether I've already viewed them on my device or not. Perhaps someone else who uses gmail can help you... strange
in gmail, even if u leave the emails in the server, they wont be downloaded more than once. i know that, i am using a gmail account with my office pc as well as my home pc. and if i download an email from gmail using one of the two pc's, i cant download it again using the other pc, unless i go into the gmail server and "refresh" all emails making them as new. Same of course applies if you use a win mobile system.
Solution? yep and pretty simple. Have a new account in an exchange server, which can sync with your diamond. Have all your emails forwarded to this account. My diamond syncs only with my push-emailing exchange server, whilst all other accounts of mine are set in order to forward copies to the exchange server.
dunno if i made myself sufficiently clear... ?
How do I uhh.. set up an exchange server?
Is it seriously impossible to synch email I receive on the phone with desktop outlook? This is stupid. :/ One of the reasons I got the phone was that I could get emails everywhere, but it's useless if not only it doesn't synch it with the computer, but it deletes these mails automatically.....
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How do I uhh.. set up an exchange server?
Is it seriously impossible to synch email I receive on the phone with desktop outlook? This is stupid. :/ One of the reasons I got the phone was that I could get emails everywhere, but it's useless if not only it doesn't synch it with the computer, but it deletes these mails automatically.....
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i opened an account in a microsoft exchange server, to which i forward all my emails from other accounts. Also all my contacts and to-do list are in this exchange server, and are sync together with outlook in my other two computers (+diamond). I do so not just for sync but also because this is the best way for getting push-emailing... meaning my diamond gets the email right in the moment i receive it.
btw u can get a free email account in the following exchange server: http://live.mail2web.com/
Do you have imap enabled or just pop3? If you let the phone automatically setup your email then it will automatically chose pop3. Don't enter your email adress when configuring your gmail because it automatically sets up everything. Just enter something like [email protected] and it should give you the option to choose imap.
And make sure your computer also uses imap.
I have looked high and low and can't figure out how to, or a hack for, previewing the first few lines of an email on the Email Tab in TF3D. I have applied the hack to put the envelope behind the emails, just can't get the body of the email to show. I get "Click to view messages'" I even tried sending TXT vs HTML messages with no success. Any ideas or suggestions? I am currently using Seven Beta to push my work email and personal email to the two corresponding accounts on the phone.
Are you saying when you slide to the email tab it doesn't show a preview of the message or just with your email account? I have a stock imagio and it always shows them. Timmay!!!
Yes, I am not seeing the preview, just Click to see message. That is telling me that I am seeing something unique to my two accounts being pushed by Seven Beta. Thanks,
Andy
Do you have a hotmail or similar account account you can set up and see if that previews the message or have you tried that?
Do you know if Seven Beta only pushes headers or full message?
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Do you have a hotmail or similar account account you can set up and see if that previews the message or have you tried that?
Do you know if Seven Beta only pushes headers or full message?
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That was it. I added my comcast account via outlook vs Seven and got the preview then. Searched again with Seven in the tag and found this. so looks like it is being worked on for anyone else using Seven. Seven Beta is the best when you are on a large corporate email system and can't get push access. I get my entire GAL access as well through it for GE.
Originally Posted by h078
Service works flawlessly but on Manila email preview it displays only subject of the message and sender (sticking out of envelope) but no preview text other then click to view message
With normal poll email it works with full preview...?
Any thoughts on this?
Thanks
That's a known bug. The Seven guys are on it. PRobably something about the formatting of the message once it passes through Seven's process that TF3D chokes on -- It will do the same for a small handful of e-mails on accounts set up the normal way too.
When I look at my Salsa's Hotmail inbox, I regularly notice emails there which are not reaching my inbox on PCs, tablet or laptop. The Salsa seems to be deleting the emails from the server despite that option being unticked in the Salsa's Hotmail settings.
My settings on the Salsa are:
POP
pop.live.com
SSL
995
Login required: yes (I've tried yes & no)
smtp.live.com
TLS
587
Ask before deleting: On (I've tried On & Off, though I know this relates to manually deleting emails)
Refresh on open: No (Again, tried yes & no)
Auto download message: Off (tried both)
Delete mail on server: Off
I've tried deleting the account on the phone and setting it up again, but with no success in sorting the problem. Oddly, it seems that the same emails senders disappear, ebay for example. Since I got the phone, no ebay emails have made it to any of my computers. I can't promise to be 100% accurate that it's a set list of senders always being deleted but I'm certain about ebay and fairly sure about the rest.
Note also that the emails are not available in Hotmails on a web browser, even if I try their recovery setting.
Any helpful suggestions (other than "Stop accessing Hotmail through your Salsa"!:laugh: )?
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When I look at my Salsa's Hotmail inbox, I regularly notice emails there which are not reaching my inbox on PCs, tablet or laptop. The Salsa seems to be deleting the emails from the server despite that option being unticked in the Salsa's Hotmail settings.
My settings on the Salsa are:
POP
pop.live.com
SSL
995
Login required: yes (I've tried yes & no)
smtp.live.com
TLS
587
Ask before deleting: On (I've tried On & Off, though I know this relates to manually deleting emails)
Refresh on open: No (Again, tried yes & no)
Auto download message: Off (tried both)
Delete mail on server: Off
I've tried deleting the account on the phone and setting it up again, but with no success in sorting the problem. Oddly, it seems that the same emails senders disappear, eBay for example. Since I got the phone, no eBay emails have made it to any of my computers. I can't promise to be 100% accurate that it's a set list of senders always being deleted but I'm certain about eBay and fairly sure about the rest.
Note also that the emails are not available in Hotmail on a web browser, even if I try their recovery setting.
Any helpful suggestions (other than "Stop accessing Hotmail through your Salsa"!:laugh: )?
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i only use the email app and nothing else for gmail and Hotmail and i find its fine. using another external app is pointless really. i found just setting Hotmail as pop mail and using my normal login. as for emails deleting that's new to me....Ive never had that issue. which rom are you using by the way?
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i only use the email app and nothing else for gmail and Hotmail and i find its fine. using another external app is pointless really. i found just setting Hotmail as pop mail and using my normal login. as for emails deleting that's new to me....Ive never had that issue. which rom are you using by the way?
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Sorry, should have said I'm still using your Big Bear X v11.
And I'm just using the standard "Mail" app for Hotmail & another account, and the GMail app for GMail. It's only Hotmail I'm having trouble with.
I should also add that sometimes the emails even disappear from the phone after being there moments before! What alerted me to the issue was seeing a competition in an email and deciding to enter via PC. So I went into Outlook but the email wasn't in Hotmail there. I went straight back to the phone and the email was now missing. It's as though there is some screwed up sync happening behind closed doors but I definitely have "Sync deleted items from server" disabled as well, so even that doesn't make sense.
If you have no suggestions for now, I'll delete the account from my phone again for a few days and see if the problem goes away - I'll know because ebay emails should start appearing on my other devices every day or so.
I'll wait till you reply again before doing that just in case you have any other suggestions.
Thanks.
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Sorry, should have said I'm still using your Big Bear X v11.
And I'm just using the standard "Mail" app for Hotmail & another account, and the G Mail app for G Mail. It's only Hotmail I'm having trouble with.
I should also add that sometimes the emails even disappear from the phone after being there moments before! What alerted me to the issue was seeing a competition in an email and deciding to enter via PC. So I went into Outlook but the email wasn't in Hotmail there. I went straight back to the phone and the email was now missing. It's as though there is some screwed up sync happening behind closed doors but I definitely have "Sync deleted items from server" disabled as well, so even that doesn't make sense.
If you have no suggestions for now, I'll delete the account from my phone again for a few days and see if the problem goes away - I'll know because eBay emails should start appearing on my other devices every day or so.
I'll wait till you reply again before doing that just in case you have any other suggestions.
Thanks.
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on thew standard email app my settings for Hotmail are as follows
email addy and username are the email address in my case Hotmail.co.uk
pop server is pop3.live.com
security ssl
server 995
next settings are username ie email inc Hotmail.co.uk
password for account
smtp smtp.live.com
security tls
server 587
this enables the account active
receive settings
max size
update 5 mins
download 3 days
auto download active
folder sync inbox
didn't select deleted items from server
all other options not selected
im running v11 as-well
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on thew standard email app my settings for Hotmail are as follows
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OK, I'm going to copy your settings and see if that makes any difference.
Previously, I had as above but:
size 50kb (the default setting)
Auto download off (but only after trying on)
I don't see why the message size would affect the server unless for some reason it would delete from the server if the message was above the 50kb I had set on the phone, but surely not?
I'll let you know how that goes.
This morning's results:
Emails received on all devices - 6 different senders
Emails only received on Salsa - 4 different senders
So almost half my Hotmail emails aren't reaching my other devices
Next step, I guess, is to remove the Hotmail account from the phone and see if emails from the missing senders start appearing again...
Droideka77 said:
This morning's results:
Emails received on all devices - 6 different senders
Emails only received on Salsa - 4 different senders
So almost half my Hotmail emails aren't reaching my other devices
Next step, I guess, is to remove the Hotmail account from the phone and see if emails from the missing senders start appearing again...
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this is odd, i don't usually use Hotmail via the phone anyway, i have it there to check my daughters Facebook etc as the notifications come through there, so its not really bothered me to much on what mails come through, but since you have mentioned this i have noticed only a small amount have come through as i went onto Hotmail via the website and found loads more lol, so i do wonder if its Hotmail itself that restricts it and not the email app.
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this is odd, i don't usually use Hotmail via the phone anyway, i have it there to check my daughters Facebook etc as the notifications come through there, so its not really bothered me to much on what mails come through, but since you have mentioned this i have noticed only a small amount have come through as i went onto Hotmail via the website and found loads more lol, so i do wonder if its Hotmail itself that restricts it and not the email app.
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That's really odd! At least it looks like it's not just me then, even if that's not a solution. I just wanted access to my Hotmail when I'm away from home to keep tabs on things or for online offers I may want to take advantage of, that sort of thing. I wouldn't mind so much if it was the other way round, i.e. that the phone was failing to receive some emails and they were all on the PCs but it's the PC I'm going to archiving them on and I don't want to be needing to forward emails and all the hassle and confusion that causes (as in the sender then being me, and the time stamp being wrong etc.) Even if there's the equivalent of a PST file that can be copied from an Android device to a PC with Outlook (is there?), it's still far from ideal.
I'm still totally mystified why the phone is getting all my Hotmails whilst my PCs, laptop and Nexus 7 (unrooted btw) and the Hotmail site itself are missing them! I can't speak for the N7, as I got that more recently than the phone, but the PCs and laptop all used to get everything (as far as I can be sure) before I got the Salsa - they all were in sync with the Hotmail website's emails.
The only possibility I can currently see is that somehow the Salsa is (selectively) deleting emails from the server, but even then that would require it always to be the first to download them. I suppose that's possible because whilst I usually have one PC on 24/7 I only run Outlook as and when I want to check emails. Hmmm, there's an idea! If I leave Outlook running constantly for a few days (seeing as I get far fewer Hotmails at the weekend) I wonder if it will download from the affected senders before the phone allegedly deletes them? Again, not a solution but possibly a way of confirming whether it really is the phone deleting them.
This is my guess at this problem
1. Have seen what POP does to your account ?, it downloads an email from the server and delete it on the server. That's the reason you cant see them on other devices N7 or your Outlook enabled computer.
2. With IMAP settings, similar to our Gmail app, you can access all you emails from the server even if you delete them from it. Regardless.
A link- http://www1.umn.edu/adcs/guides/email/imapvspop.html
Still not working!
8 emails reached all devices but a further 7 only reached the Salsa. Outlook remained running the entire time.
Times and whether they reached the other devices:
02:28 No
03:24 No
05:02
06:04
06:06
06:11
07:19
07:42
09:04
10:00 No
10:15 No
11:15
12:34 No
12:35 No
12:49 No
Interesting that most (not quite all) "lost" emails were in an uninterrupted time period. Whether that's relevant I don't know after only one day. I'll make a similar list on Monday (rarely get anything on a Sunday).
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This is my guess at this problem
1. Have seen what POP does to your account ?, it downloads an email from the server and delete it on the server. That's the reason you cant see them on other devices N7 or your Outlook enabled computer.
2. With IMAP settings, similar to our Gmail app, you can access all you emails from the server even if you delete them from it. Regardless.
A link- http://www1.umn.edu/adcs/guides/email/imapvspop.html
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I see a problem with IMAP settings (unless I'm misinterpreting them) in that deleting an email on the phone would delete it on the server, leaving it unavailable to other devices. I need to be able to access the emails at different times on different devices and be able to delete some emails from the phone without losing them from Outlook.
An example: An email arrives from Paypal to say a payment has gone through. I see that on my phone but don't need to keep it on the phone, so I delete it. But, I do want to save it in a folder in Outlook when I have the chance to get to my PC. If I start Outlook, isn't that email going to be unavailable to download and therefore save?
Incidentally, I tried to follow instructions on setting up a Hotmail address with IMAP (using a secondary account I have) but I get failed authentication messages. Looks like somebody may have had the same issue in the final comments here.
Hotmail, doesn't offer IMAP protocol on Android !!, they use something called an Exchange ActiveSync
Moreover, they have released their version of an application which you can download on the Playstore, I suggest have a test of the application and see if the emails are appearing there.
Droideka77 said:
I see a problem with IMAP settings (unless I'm misinterpreting them) in that deleting an email on the phone would delete it on the server, leaving it unavailable to other devices. I need to be able to access the emails at different times on different devices and be able to delete some emails from the phone without losing them from Outlook.
An example: An email arrives from Paypal to say a payment has gone through. I see that on my phone but don't need to keep it on the phone, so I delete it. But, I do want to save it in a folder in Outlook when I have the chance to get to my PC. If I start Outlook, isn't that email going to be unavailable to download and therefore save?
Incidentally, I tried to follow instructions on setting up a Hotmail address with IMAP (using a secondary account I have) but I get failed authentication messages. Looks like somebody may have had the same issue in the final comments here.
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Hello,
You just described POP which you are currently using in your Salsa that is, "deleting an email on the phone would delete it on the server, leaving it unavailable to other devices.". That is what POP does. It deletes the email from the server if you delete it from the phone.
No once you delete the Ebay email from your phone it will not be available on the desktop or your N7, thats POP for you.
IMAP on the other hand deletes it from the phone and goes into, IMAP trash in our Gmail account on desktop. So you can view them on any devices running normal/IMAP Gmail. An image for your reference has been attached.
Sorry for being hasty, but XDA doesnt allow post within 2 minutes of each other.
I'll give the app a shot. You wouldn't think it would be so difficult just to access some emails. It's not even that likely I'd want to reply to emails from the phone very often, if at all, I just want to be able to read them when I'm not at the PC and know they'll still be on the PC when I go there.
karanparikh said:
Hello,
You just described POP which you are currently using in your Salsa that is, "deleting an email on the phone would delete it on the server, leaving it unavailable to other devices.". That is what POP does. It deletes the email from the server if you delete it from the phone.
No once you delete the Ebay email from your phone it will not be available on the desktop or your N7, thats POP for you.
IMAP on the other hand deletes it from the phone and goes into, IMAP trash in our Gmail account on desktop. So you can view them on any devices running normal/IMAP Gmail. An image for your reference has been attached.
Sorry for being hasty, but XDA doesnt allow post within 2 minutes of each other.
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Ok, so the relevant thing is delete versus permanently delete!
I think the confusion I'm feeling is that my non-hotmail accounts in Outlook are all using POP but with the option to leave emails on the server.
Ya sure will do, this problem was precisely the reason the university I went to, shifted from Hotmail/Outlook to Gmail/Outlook. many of the lecturers didn't know the next day where the older mails went !! :laugh:
I just created a draft mail on my Salsa running on the Hotmail account and the same draft mail would not appear on my desktop Hotmail and vice-verse
Attached image is my University account where IMAP is enabled on my Salsa through the normal Mail app, not the Gmail one.
OK, Here [2nd attached] is my Thunderbird settings for IMAP, it clearly shows what do you want to do with the deleted items :highfive::highfive:
I've now installed the hotmail app and I'll allow both it and the standard email app to handle Hotmail for a couple of days or so, just to make sure they are in sync with each other. If they are, I'll delete Hotmail from the email app and see if I then retain all emails in Outlook or if the problem continues.
I actually got several Hotmails today so I was able to catalogue the success (or otherwise of the Hotmail app when still accessing Hotmail through the default email app too). Times of all Hotmails received, and whether Outlook or my Nexus & also received them:
("x" means in Hotmail app. "no" means not in Outlook, Hotmail.com or Nexus 7)
00:27 no
00:40 no
02:35 x
02:40 x
05:17 no
06:04 x
07:02 no
08:04 x
08:20 no
09:17 no
09:35 x
10:07 x
10:19 x
10:33 x
11:44 x
13:43 x
So in summary, both the email app and Hotmail app receive all the Hotmails whilst the same emails are missing from both Outlook and the N7. Not really the result I would have hoped for as it would appear that removing Hotmail from the email app and just using the Hotmail app would still end up with me losing emails in Outlook & N7. (I wanted to see an "x" next to all times above).
The next step (after forwarding any "Salsa-only" Hotmails of importance to my other devices*) will be to delete Hotmail from the email app and see how that affects things. It may be that I still have the same issue if the Hotmail app still gets emails which are missing elsewhere and I have to re-think how to get Hotmail on my Salsa without losing emails on other devices.
*Sending from Hotmail on the Salsa to the same Hotmail address, it still doesn't reach any device including
the Salsa (though I know sometimes it can take a while doing that so maybe it will get there eventually). Sending to a non-Hotmail address works as soon as I check Outlook.
I'll update after I've received enough emails tomorrow to see what's happening.
Still no positive progress. After deleting Hotmail from the email app and continuing with the Hotmail app on the Salsa, here are the results up to lunchtime today:
10/12:
(Deleted Hotmail from Salsa's email app before any emails rec'd today)
("x" means in Hotmail app. "no" means not in Outlook, N7 or Hotmail.com)
02:52 x
02:56 x
08:53 x
09:04 x
10:08 x
10:14 x
10:42 x no
10:43 x
10:48 x no
11:23 x
12:08 x
So, as you can see, the Salsa still seems able to prevent my other devices receiving some emails and permanently deleting them from the server - remember, they are not even recoverable from the Hotmail deleted items using their recovery tool.
Droideka77 said:
Still no positive progress. After deleting Hotmail from the email app and continuing with the Hotmail app on the Salsa, here are the results up to lunchtime today:
10/12:
(Deleted Hotmail from Salsa's email app before any emails rec'd today)
("x" means in Hotmail app. "no" means not in Outlook, N7 or Hotmail.com)
02:52 x
02:56 x
08:53 x
09:04 x
10:08 x
10:14 x
10:42 x no
10:43 x
10:48 x no
11:23 x
12:08 x
So, as you can see, the Salsa still seems able to prevent my other devices receiving some emails and permanently deleting them from the server - remember, they are not even recoverable from the Hotmail deleted items using their recovery tool.
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i really don't know what to to say then....this is probably why i don't use Hotmail much anymore, gmail is taking over lol