So, im still waiting for Note 2 but in the meantime im considering the original Note as an option.
Some questions:
1.CAMERA: In the last version of the Note (4.0.4), whats the state with the front facing camera. I read things that it cant record 720p and from GB to ICS the camera is software reduced to 1.2 MPx .
2.USB: Whats the state with USB storage on ICS is it MTP or normal USB storage. How usable internal space does it have (16GB-1GB apps -?Touchwiz?) . Does it support wireless or wired mouse and keyboard. Can it read NTFS filesystem on ext SDcard or UBS flash and HDD.
3.MEDIA: Does it have FM radio and NFC. Whats the maximum bitrate that can play. I guess it can play FullHD Multichannel mkv file over HDMI..
Thanx in advance!
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So, im still waiting for Note 2 but in the meantime im considering the original Note as an option.
Some questions:
1.CAMERA: In the last version of the Note (4.0.4), whats the state with the front facing camera. I read things that it cant record 720p and from GB to ICS the camera is software reduced to 1.2 MPx .
2.USB: Whats the state with USB storage on ICS is it MTP or normal USB storage. How usable internal space does it have (16GB-1GB apps -?Touchwiz?) . Does it support wireless or wired mouse and keyboard. Can it read NTFS filesystem on ext SDcard or USB flash and HDD.
3.MEDIA: Does it have FM radio and NFC. Whats the maximum bitrate that can play. I guess it can play FullHD Multichannel mkv file over HDMI..
Thanx in advance!
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1- no the camera remains as it is, and no change in any thing related to front or back cam.
2-you can choose between normal mass storage or MTB ,and you have 11gb as your internal SD. Card and about 2gb for your installed apps, and yes it have full support for USB otg and wireless keyboard and mouse, and can read ntfs.
3-yes it have FM radio, but no NFC, and I think it can play full HD over HDMI, but don't know about bit rate
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Today i tried S II and Note on GingerB and both cant record 720p with the front cameras.
They are 2MPx but cant record HD video WT*.
Just just shows 640x480 video option greyed out.
Is this fixed on ICS?
kriskovski said:
Today i tried S II and Note on GingerB and both cant record 720p with the front cameras.
They are 2MPx but cant record HD video WT*.
Just just shows 640x480 video option greyed out.
Is this fixed on ICS?
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NO it is the same even on ICS 4.0.4.
I'm not sure what your goals are though, but why would you want to record 720p on the front camera? and not on the main one? Yes the 640x480 option is greyed out because that is the only allowable limit for a 2 MP front cam. the main cam can record up to 1080p one. But not the front cam. Why? again for pete's sake it's just a 2 megapixel one and nobody I think, would want to record a video using the front camera(unless of course he is vain enough to record himself all the time), most people record a video thru the back /main one.. not the front cam.
Again, you can't expect to record HD video on the 2MP front facing cam(self portrait) due to it's camera hardware limitation(just 2mp), perhaps you need to reconsider just using the main cam for that.
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Again, you can't expect to record HD video on the 2MP front facing cam(self portrait) due to it's camera hardware limitation(just 2mp), perhaps you need to reconsider just using the main cam for that.
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GSIII and GNexus can.
when was the GS3 and Nexus made? tssss thread starter please do use ur common sense
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GSIII and GNexus can.
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if your main factor in buying a phone is the front camera to record 720p/1080p... then sorry to burst your bubble..but perhaps the Note is not for you at all.
You may need to check the other threads as well (Gnex and SIII), perhaps that is where you'll find all your answers to... (don't forget to also consider the Nokia Pureview 808, if you really desire to look for an all around camera phone.
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don't forget to also consider the Nokia Pureview 808, if you really desire to look for an all around camera phone.
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Huh, no thank did you played with the 808 the UI is ... disaster ..
My point is that since its 2PMx i should have 720p capabilities..
I dont need empty words, is it hardware or software problem?
kriskovski said:
Huh, no thank did you played with the 808 the UI is ... disaster ..
My point is that since its 2PMx i should have 720p capabilities..
I dont need empty words, is it hardware or software problem?
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it's NOT EVEN a problem at all. It is just the way how Samsung developed their front end cameras on the Note. It has a 2MP cam which only supports 640x480 res. You can't get any higher than that. It is a limitation on the Note's camera itself. And I bet that is how Samsung design it that way on the Note.
Seriously, if you have more qualms than looking at the bigger picture of getting the Note(big screen wow factor), then perhaps (again let me say it), the NOTE isn't for you at all.
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it's NOT EVEN a problem at all. It is just the way how Samsung developed their front end cameras on the Note. It has a 2MP cam which only supports 640x480 res. You can't get any higher than that. It is a limitation on the Note's camera itself. And I bet that is how Samsung design it that way on the Note.
Seriously, if you have more qualms than looking at the bigger picture of getting the Note(big screen wow factor), then perhaps (again let me say it), the NOTE isn't for you at all.
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Good idea, front facing camera with 720p recording.
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Is there a way or tweak to get the camera to record at VGA or WVGA @ 30fps? I have a 14 month old daughter and im constantly taking pics of her for the familly ect and noticed that when recording video the framerate is very laggy or slow motion like. The iphone 3gs records great video quality and the N1 has better specs so id assume higher frame rate on record is possible with the N1 also.
Any thoughts anyone?
Thx Guys!
buy a video camera?
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People trip me out some time with there smart remarks.
If you like carrying around multi devices good for you. I have a stand alone camera that does video record ect but my camera is not ALLWAYS on me.
The same way the Nexus is good for multi media such as mp3 / and watching videos but I dont go buy a PSP or ipod touch for that I use my phone. The point of the high end phones these days is to try to limit carrying multi devices on you at all time.
With all the hacking / ports / tweaks going on just wanted to know if 30fps video record was possible. If you dont know how or dont know what im talking about please do reply with BS. Thanks.
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People trip me out some time with there smart remarks.
If you like carrying around multi devices good for you. I have a stand alone camera that does video record ect but my camera is not ALLWAYS on me.
The same way the Nexus is good for multi media such as mp3 / and watching videos but I dont go buy a PSP or ipod touch for that I use my phone. The point of the high end phones these days is to try to limit carrying multi devices on you at all time.
With all the hacking / ports / tweaks going on just wanted to know if 30fps video record was possible. If you dont know how or dont know what im talking about please do reply with BS. Thanks.
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i don't think he was in a bs kinda tone. hard to tell on forums
you'll thank yourself later for using a higher quality camera (dedicated camera) of any kind for videos one day. proud parent here, know whatcha mean about wanting to capture the cool 'new' moments.
now then, as far as recording, i'll bet there are settings you can change for it someday. right now the video quality is pretty darn good. just dumped a couple of videos from mine today. frame rate is quite good, picture clarity good, fps decent.
IF YOU FIND an app or way to up the settings, PLEASE update this thread in your original post.
Yeah, Im not trying to come off negative to anyone. I have a decent standalone camera that can take great pics and video a 10mpiexel cam with ful vga record. With phones tho its so MUCH MUCH MUCH more conveient to beable to snap a picture and have that picture allready able to send as MMS / Email / Up Load to facebook ect...
With the standalone camera I have to take mem card out - load to card reader - copy pics to mem card on my nexus - ect...
Just too many steps. When I had an iphone 3gs for a lmited time I was amazed at the video recording quality from a cell phone.
Now with the nexus with specs better then iphone I dont see why we cant get full 30fps at WVGA or VGA res. With 1ghz CPU and 5mpxl that should be possible right out the box. Seems like its definetly possible and im all for the ability to carry less devices.
it would be great if we could get 30 fps on the nexus. my under powered n97 does 30 fps and its video quality is a step up from my nexus for sure. kinda disappoints me that the video quality isn't just as good as my previous phones.
the moto droid (with lower specs) can do 30fps with some hacking... im sure its some setting in the rom that we can change
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacks/19647-increase-camera-video-quality.html
HTC Desire with similar hardware does 30fps.
I don't know if it's HW or SW limitation, though. Did anyone try to record video on Desire ROM and can verify the actual fps?
Well, the Desire ROM allows for WGVA recording. I do not know about all the fps stuff, but I do know that I am recording in WGVA.
You should be able to by modifying the camera driver in the kernel and the build.prop. I'll look into this when I have the time, but I found the line that should control frame rate. A commit says that not all cameras are stable at 30fps, but how's that ever stopped us?
hi,
why my nexus one doesnt record video in full hd with 30fps like the samsung i9000, the hardaware spec seems to be equal...
http://www.areamobile.de/handyvergleich/hardware/2371-samsung-galaxy-s-32gb/2329-google-nexus-one
And WHY TO HELL IS THE AUDIO ON RECORDED VIDEOS SOOOOOOOO BAD in my nexus? CANT nobody change this?!
Somebody's working on it. . .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=672823
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hi,
why my nexus one doesnt record video in full hd with 30fps like the samsung i9000, the hardaware spec seems to the same...
http://www.areamobile.de/handyvergleich/hardware/2371-samsung-galaxy-s-32gb/2329-google-nexus-one
And WHY TO HELL IS THE AUDIO ON RECORDED VIDEOS SOOOOOOOO BAD in my nexus? CANT nobody change this?!
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720p is not full HD. Also, that phone has 8GB of internal storage, the Nexus One has 512mb. Excluding the option is probably due to several things. One being the camera/video recording application on the Nexus One is the stock android software where phones like the Evo or that Samsung have custom apps for this. Second, HD video takes up tons of space, if you were going to allow HD recording a 4GB mSD card wouldn't be enough for all the videos and music, etc that people put on the phone. That isn't to say 8GB is enough, but it's a jump in the right direction. In the EVO4G's case it comes with 1GB internal and 8GB sd card out of the box.
The potential for the Nexus One to do HD video is there, but no one has figured out how yet, afaik. Pretty sure there is a thread with people working on getting 720p video recording working.
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720p is not full HD. Also, that phone has 8GB of internal storage, the Nexus One has 512mb. Excluding the option is probably due to several things. One being the camera/video recording application on the Nexus One is the stock android software where phones like the Evo or that Samsung have custom apps for this. Second, HD video takes up tons of space, if you were going to allow HD recording a 4GB mSD card wouldn't be enough for all the videos and music, etc that people put on the phone. That isn't to say 8GB is enough, but it's a jump in the right direction. In the EVO4G's case it comes with 1GB internal and 8GB sd card out of the box.
The potential for the Nexus One to do HD video is there, but no one has figured out how yet, afaik. Pretty sure there is a thread with people working on getting 720p video recording working.
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You´re right, 720p isnt full, sorry my mistake... But if you look on youtube to some sample i9000 recorded vids, the image quality is incredible and even the sound is much much better as the one on my n1 :-(!!!
It is completely awesome that we might have 720p. I don't care how much space it takes couldn't we just get bigger cards? Or is the rom the problem?
lol theres no "full" HD.
720P/1080i/1080P are all HD. Dont let made up lingo by TV companies to sell new sets skew your perception of tech.
fyi best available HD set by a country mile until this year were 720p Kuro sets.
As for recording quality. Its not about resolution at that point. Its about bit rate,FPS, and encoding quality.((software wise anyways))
I was under the impressiong the samsuns has a much better gpu component.
i dont see how or why the internal 512mb of memory has anything to do with it, nokia phones like the n97 have been recording 30 fps video directly to the sd card for years. maybe not in 720p, but couldnt we at least get the nexus one current resolution to bump up to 30 fps? and yes i read that thread, seems like lots of promise! cant wait
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6744172#post6744172
Samsung's 1GHz processor is not the snapdragon its something 3x better with a GPU 3x better i think its the "humming bird" processor!
There is nothing between CPU or GPU and realtime video encoding on mobile devices. It's done by dedicated hardware.
Nexus has the hardware, it can be made to do it, it was made to do it, and it'll hopefully improve even futher.
All the comparison of CPUs, GPUs etc with bare words and no facts is not going to do any good besides wasting forum pages.
There is a big difference between a question and a complaint. Complaining that the device doesn't do what it wasn't advertised to do is quite... strange, let's say.
Hi
Read that the i9000 hardware can encode/decode 1080p video.
and that the camera is capable of this.
is there a camera apk that has this?
what is involved in making one?
or is this just impossible to accomplish?
i dont think the phone can handle filming at 1080p in my opinion. 720p is awesome anyway even more so on a phone...
One thing i do know is that i can stream HD (1080p) movies from my pc to my phone and that plays perfectly..
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Read that the i9000 hardware can encode/decode 1080p video.
and that the camera is capable of this.
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Yea, heard that too - Galaxy Tab with the same hardware can handle it, but some kernel drivers of Galaxy S doesn't support it... Thanks to Samsung
is there a dev around that could say what kind of drivers are needed in the kernal?
maybe we could do something when the S2 comes out.
would a nice addition...
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Yea, heard that too - Galaxy Tab with the same hardware can handle it, but some kernel drivers of Galaxy S doesn't support it... Thanks to Samsung
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with android 2.3 and 2.4 it can handle it.
What's the point on that;It would capture 1080p in too low frame rate.
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What's the point on that;It would capture 1080p in too low frame rate.
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Like marcodoncarlos stated, the tab can handle it with the same hardware (30fps I think) so our phones would be able to handle it just fine if given the proper software.
mem write speed will creat problems
Would it be possible to get higher resolution recording than 1080p, as in 2K, QXGA, WQXGA? I know it's not just the software issue. Naturally, the HW must be capable, so let's see first if the camera module could do it.
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Would it be possible to get higher resolution recording than 1080p, as in 2K, QXGA, WQXGA? I know it's not just the software issue. Naturally, the HW must be capable, so let's see first if the camera module could do it.
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Theoretically, I sure do think so (if there's no hardware cap or something we cannot alter). However, you'd most likely have to tweak some stuff, in order go get the required performance from the hardwareside.
The hardware is capable of taking higher resolution photos, but processing would be slow I think. Also, the camera HAL must support it and we can't alter that.
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I've seen this in news.I guess we'd need updated libs but since you guys got camera working with old/new libs, why not give it a shot?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/add-4k-and-120-fps-to-your-stock-lg-camera/
Even if the hardware is not capable of giving out good fps, I think we could still be able to record 4 k videos at very low FPS.
If you guys can't get this to work, could you atleast tweak the camera to widen ISO values so we get better pictures in the dark? Pretty sure our camera is capable of it and seen some guy doing it for stock ICS camera.He tweaked ISO values and I had tested it.It looked far better compared to stock camera.Unfortunately it's only compatible with ICS.
Even general mobile discovery can take better pictures in the dark and doubt it has a better camera than ours.We just need a few tweaks.
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The hardware is capable of taking higher resolution photos, but processing would be slow I think. Also, the camera HAL must support it and we can't alter that.
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That's my thinking, too. If it were possible, the processing would almost certainly not be handled by camera's hardware. I think it would have to be offloaded to phone's CPU. But, who knows? G2 got 4K with a relatively simple apk modding which means the camera module was hardware-capable to begin with. G Flex, too. Luckily, 4X has the same CMOS as the Nexus 4, Sony's IMX111PQ, and that can be very helpful. Perhaps a new driver is required or just a modded apk, like G2. I'm no dev, so I can't tell or make.
@ottomanhero Sadly, we can't get 4K rec coz CMOS hasn't enough vertical pixels. There's also a problem with encoding the vid on phone's hardware as it would probably be a soft encoder which means the CPU would process it (but that's a huge bite even for the top desktop CPUs). But 2K or 1440p vid might be feasable. Tegra 3 can output up to 2560x1600 meaning we could play it, too, with a normal bitrate.
Well atleast we could improve the ISO range to get better shots under low light conditions.I used to have a phone that's 2 MP and even that one had better pictures in low light conditions.It is proven our cam can handle higher/lower ISO values.We just need some software tweaks.
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Well atleast we could improve the ISO range to get better shots under low light conditions.I used to have a phone that's 2 MP and even that one had better pictures in low light conditions.It is proven our cam can handle higher/lower ISO values.We just need some software tweaks.
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Do you mean this mod?
If someone can give me original V10f camera.tegra.so and libnvmm_camera.so I could take a look at it for JB+.
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Do you mean this mod?
If someone can give me original V10f camera.tegra.so and libnvmm_camera.so I could take a look at it for JB+.
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I think I've got an ICS system image somewhere on my HDD sec
BTW, gotta talk to you later regarding cam, 'cause I'm not too sure whether or not my idea can even work...
EDIT: Here you go
What specs does the N6 offer in turns of slow motion video capturing?
Bump. I have the same question. Seems that none of the reviews explored the camera settings. Any update on this?
Everything I have seen has said that it takes video at 30fps
As far as I know, slow motion requires more frames per second. So I'm thinking that's a no on slow-mo. I could be wrong though.
The only spec i see is 4k @30fps.
I hope the stock camera app will allow for 1080P or 720P at either 60, 120, or 240fps. This is really a make or break decision for me, but seeing as though there are no frame rate specs for the other resolutions yet I will probably just have to buy it and see. I'm sure the devs will have at it if it does not come factory, although I hope it comes stock.
I found this quote at techtimes.com, If true I hope for at least 720p @60fps+
"The Google Nexus 6 uses a 13-megapixel rear camera with OIS (opitcal image stabilization), dual-LED flash, autofocus, 4K video recording @ 30 fps, 1080p video @ 30 fps, and a 2-megapixel front-facing camera."
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The only spec i see is 4k @30fps.
I hope the stock camera app will allow for 1080P or 720P at either 60, 120, or 240fps. This is really a make or break decision for me, but seeing as though there are no frame rate specs for the other resolutions yet I will probably just have to buy it and see. I'm sure the devs will have at it if it does not come factory, although I hope it comes stock.
I found this quote at techtimes.com, If true I hope for at least 720p @60fps+
"The Google Nexus 6 uses a 13-megapixel rear camera with OIS (opitcal image stabilization), dual-LED flash, autofocus, 4K video recording @ 30 fps, 1080p video @ 30 fps, and a 2-megapixel front-facing camera."
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I don't know if this video is legit, but here's a youtube video supposedly shot by the Nexus 6, 1080p @ 120 fps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq7XPDsnuXk
i'm sure that video is fake. There is no proof that the video came from a nexus 6, let alone any mobile device.
Once the embargo is lifted on the 12th we'll all know 100% about the camera I suppose
Google I/O
Lollipop opens up the Camera API to try to allow camera apps to take full advantage of the camera hardware. What is that camera hardware able to do?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtp3tH27OFs
well this sucks ... from the Nexus 6 page on Motorola.com
"2160p (4K) UHD, 1080p HD and 720p HD video capture modes (30fps)"
hope they are just leaving out the rest of the modes
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well this sucks ... from the Nexus 6 page on Motorola.com
"2160p (4K) UHD, 1080p HD and 720p HD video capture modes (30fps)"
hope they are just leaving out the rest of the modes
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The snapdragon 805 is capable of slow motion video. Even if it isn't available out of the box, which I kind of suspect it will be, I wouldn't be surprised to see some enterprising developer figure out a way to make it happen.
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The snapdragon 805 is capable of slow motion video. Even if it isn't available out of the box, which I kind of suspect it will be, I wouldn't be surprised to see some enterprising developer figure out a way to make it happen.
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Even my 2 year old Note 2 does slow motion video but the Note 4 slow motion still does not capture audio with the slow mo video or do it as well as the iPhone sadly. It would be great if the Nexus 6 could do slow mo with audio & had some cool video effects like the Note line..:good:
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The snapdragon 805 is capable of slow motion video. Even if it isn't available out of the box, which I kind of suspect it will be, I wouldn't be surprised to see some enterprising developer figure out a way to make it happen.
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Agreed. Since the api allows for developers to gain access to it like never before I'm sure it's only a matter of time before we see it. If I'm not mistaken the one plus one phone has slowmo recording and it uses the same camera. It's just something that needs to be implemented in the software.
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Agreed. Since the api allows for developers to gain access to it like never before I'm sure it's only a matter of time before we see it. If I'm not mistaken the one plus one phone has slowmo recording and it uses the same camera. It's just something that needs to be implemented in the software.
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Even the reviewers in many of the reviews that came out yesterday seemed surprised at how basic the camera app on the N6 is. RAW capture is the big new thing with L but the camera app doesn't capture it. Either Google has a big update in store or developers will find their own way. There have already been numerous example improvements shown with lcamera.
Anyone with a device in hand yet try any 3rd party camera apps?
You have to remember the guy who posted about the api'$ and taking raw pics it was with nexus 5 and a camera app he wrote ... won't be long b
efore some apps have it though i am sure
Here is his git hub so his camera can be used
https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera/
Here is the write up
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-5-lollipop-camera-api-samples-540858/
since it has the same camera as the one plus, would installing the camera apk from it possibly bring slowmo recording or will it have to be written into the frame working?
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Double Bump. The answer to this question is what will decide whether I buy a nexus 6 or a note 4.
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Can someone with a nexus 6 try the app 'Open Camera' by Mark Harman (hopefully not the actor ) and hit the settings (gear) icon, Photo and video settings, Video frame rate, change it to 60 or 120 and then record a video. In theory this should bump the video up to a higher frame rate and then playback should be slow motion. Just a guess here but it is worth a try. Also I doubt this app is using the new 5.0 APIs so it may not be a true test.
Edit: better yet try this app that is designed for the 5.0 API. https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera
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Double Bump. The answer to this question is what will decide whether I buy a nexus 6 or a note 4.
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Can someone with a nexus 6 try the app 'Open Camera' by Mark Harman (hopefully not the actor ) and hit the settings (gear) icon, Photo and video settings, Video frame rate, change it to 60 or 120 and then record a video. In theory this should bump the video up to a higher frame rate and then playback should be slow motion. Just a guess here but it is worth a try. Also I doubt this app is using the new 5.0 APIs so it may not be a true test.
Edit: better yet try this app that is designed for the 5.0 API. https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera
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Cool suggestion; just tried the Open Camera app and video recorded at 720p with 120 FPS enabled but the playback appeared normal on device. I'm going to try and run the video on my PC and see if I can find if it actually recorded in 120. I'll also try that other app and get back to you.
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Cool suggestion; just tried the Open Camera app and video recorded at 720p with 120 FPS enabled but the playback appeared normal on device. I'm going to try and run the video on my PC and see if I can find if it actually recorded in 120. I'll also try that other app and get back to you.
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Cool! Keep me informed.
I tried the open camera as well as that L camera, I was able to change the framerate in the settings but it still records at 30 fps so no luck there sadly! I really hope we can get a slow motion app working someday, it's an awesome tool from time to time.