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[Q] Titanium Backup 2.1 to Froyo 2.2 MMS/SMS Error

I have a Samsung Captivate. I recently flashed to Cognition 2.2 Beta 5 via Odin.
With Titanium Backup I was able to restore ALMOST everything, including most of the apps and account settings, which makes restoring almost painless
However, I can't restore TEXT messages. When I restore either:
[SMS/MMS/APN] Dialer Storage
[SMS/MMS PREFS] Messaging 2.2
I get the following error every 5 seconds or so making the phone virtually useless- Sorry!
The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.
Force close
The only way I found to recover from this error is to use AnReboot (or manually reboot into recovery) and delete all user data. It took me a while to track down exactly what was crashing the phone, as I was randomly restoring stuff
One time I was able to catch a glimpse of the texts before it would repeatedly crash, so, I know that they are intact
I suppose my question is if there is any way to port the messages over, or should I just install an older ROM use another tool to backup the texts and then re-flash...Heck, I should just do that.

dirtyballoonot said:
I have a Samsung Captivate. I recently flashed to Cognition 2.2 Beta 5 via Odin.
With Titanium Backup I was able to restore ALMOST everything, including most of the apps and account settings, which makes restoring almost painless
However, I can't restore TEXT messages. When I restore either:
[SMS/MMS/APN] Dialer Storage
[SMS/MMS PREFS] Messaging 2.2
I get the following error every 5 seconds or so making the phone virtually useless- Sorry!
The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.
Force close
The only way I found to recover from this error is to use AnReboot (or manually reboot into recovery) and delete all user data. It took me a while to track down exactly what was crashing the phone, as I was randomly restoring stuff
One time I was able to catch a glimpse of the texts before it would repeatedly crash, so, I know that they are intact
I suppose my question is if there is any way to port the messages over, or should I just install an older ROM use another tool to backup the texts and then re-flash...Heck, I should just do that.
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its because you are restoring system files from 2.1.....i would recommend using something like SMS backup+ to backup all your SMS messages....it sends them to your gmail so you never have to worry about it. no mms support, but its in the works

No MMS support definately is unfortunate.

This is Not q and a , this is android dev.
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dirtyballoonot said:
No MMS support definately is unfortunate.
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As pointed out this is not Q and A and should have been posted in Captivate Q&A or Captivate General or Captivate Themes and Apps..
First off though while I wish everything worked together perfectly this isn't a perfect world. Secondly your complaining that an app doesn't work properly with an unofficial OS release that is called beta even by its creator and that was released 6 days ago! You downloaded a bleeding edge release, be prepared to get cut every now and then.
Cognition rocks as a whole but you need to have realistic expectations for the software developers. They may not test their app with every hacked rom out there, they may be unwilling to possibly brick a device just to see if things work right and they may be wholly unwilling to support 3rd party roms.

I know this may be a silly question, but did you do a reboot after you restored with Titanium? I know my SMS and MMS did not show up again until after the reboot. May also affect many of your other app data.

I had this problem too. first, backup your SMS messages with SMS Backup & Restore. then, archive your MMS Messages with Save MMS (it will move all your MMS pictures to the sdcard folder) AFAIK there is no program out there that will restore MMS messages to 2.2 from 2.1. you can restore the SMS messages w/ SMS backup & restore just fine going from 2.1 to 2.2
mine would flat out hardlock the phone when i restored my SMS/MMS w/ TiBU, or with my backup pro

I had MMS issues when I was running beta 4, all I did was one Odin click back to 2.1 and install beta 5.5 with clockwork recovery and It worked fine after.
- DG + Froyo + Captivate = The best threesome ever!

bulletproof1013 said:
This is Not q and a , this is android dev.
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Apologies, this was obviously my first post. I wasn't sure whether this was developmental due to the app, or a phone issue...Please move if necessary.

rahlquist said:
As pointed out this is not Q and A and should have been posted in Captivate Q&A or Captivate General or Captivate Themes and Apps..
First off though while I wish everything worked together perfectly this isn't a perfect world. Secondly your complaining that an app doesn't work properly with an unofficial OS release that is called beta even by its creator and that was released 6 days ago! You downloaded a bleeding edge release, be prepared to get cut every now and then.
Cognition rocks as a whole but you need to have realistic expectations for the software developers. They may not test their app with every hacked rom out there, they may be unwilling to possibly brick a device just to see if things work right and they may be wholly unwilling to support 3rd party roms.
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I wasn't complaining at all. I was simply asking if there was a way to port the texts over.
I simply said it was "unfortunate", as it would have been nice to have my MMS/SMS work as everything else does.
I do agree that the Cognition release is pretty awesome. Not sure why the mail was changed, and a couple other features, but, all in all, 100% better than stock 2.1
I realize it's bleeding edge. I wasn't "expecting" anything, but, when MOST things worked and this didn't I was simply trying to figure out a solution.

GR8Danes-I did reboot. In fact, nothing really restores until after a reboot, and after the reboot is the exact moment it "breaks".
Sicwan-to be clear you can restore SMS, but, not MMS? by archive you basically mean save the attachments I assume. With the SMS, does it at least maintain the threads?
cheetah-I wasn't aware that you could use clockwork with 2.2 beta 5. I thought that involved kernal swapping, or the like. Could you provide a link, or a few more details? This is really the only caveat I've found.

Ooops...Double post

dirtyballoonot said:
Sicwan-to be clear you can restore SMS, but, not MMS? by archive you basically mean save the attachments I assume. With the SMS, does it at least maintain the threads?
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I had the same problem you had, where I restored data from 2.1update1, and it caused a phone crash. I now use SMS Backup & Restore, it backs up and restores every text message, and maintains the threads as well. The only issue I have had with it is that it puts all the MMS messages I've received as the first messages. But on that note, I've also found that it does back up MMS, at least for me...

rrrrramos said:
I had the same problem you had, where I restored data from 2.1update1, and it caused a phone crash. I now use SMS Backup & Restore, it backs up and restores every text message, and maintains the threads as well. The only issue I have had with it is that it puts all the MMS messages I've received as the first messages. But on that note, I've also found that it does back up MMS, at least for me...
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Maybe I'll give that a try. The TXT's are really the only thing that has me stuck. I have a clockwork backup of my 2.1 image that has tons on it, I have new one's since I've been testing these ROM's.
OK, well, maybe not JUST the texts, but, trying to stay on topic here.
I find myself in an odd spot though. I would like to get all my texts consolidated though so that I can make images of both the old OS, and the new OS, however, I know that if I use clockwork to backup everything as is, it will likely "break" when going backwards.
I'd like to try BETA 6 as well, but, there's even more hesitation as I actually dig car mode (although the music button doesn't work), like moxier, and a few other things that were removed. (Now I've digressed)

Do NOT restore system data with Titanium Backup!!

designgears said:
Do NOT restore system data with Titanium Backup!!
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OK, that was subtle. Would you happen to have a constructive alternative to restore app settings, MMS/SMS and the like? If TiBu can't restore system data, it's virtually useless.

dirtyballoonot said:
OK, that was subtle. Would you happen to have a constructive alternative to restore app settings, MMS/SMS and the like?
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app settings can be restored by using the batch method on TiBu entitled restore MISSING apps and data NOT apps and system data!
anything in your batch restore that says 2.1 DO NOT restore
USE a different APP for backing up/restoring SMS messages

[BOOKMARKS] Browser 2.2
Accounts
Bluetooth Pairings
Wi-Fi Access Points
[USER DICT]com.android.providers.userdictionary 2.2
[CONTACTS/CALL] Contacts Storage 2.2
[VOICEMAIL] Dialer 2.2
Well, I've successfully restored all of this with no issue (except I don't really believe that my dictionary restored, it just didn't break)
If there was a different APP to restore my SMS/MMS without limitations I'm open for suggestions, why they would choose to make those system files to begin with is beyond my comprehension...

i never restore ANY system data....it only takes a few minutes to change those settings for system apps anyway.
as long as i dont restore ANY system data, i dont get any FC's

dirtyballoonot said:
OK, that was subtle. Would you happen to have a constructive alternative to restore app settings, MMS/SMS and the like? If TiBu can't restore system data, it's virtually useless.
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set everything up manually. Save your MMS pics to your sdcard. If you have something important in your SMS, forward it to your email...
My comment is not useless, you got an error, posted on here about, and I tell you not to do it because it doesn't work... This is where you should realize something, "HEY, THIS DOESN'T WORK, maybe I should find another way to do it". Seems you didn't get that far, so I have given you an alt route.
If you need a one-click solution for everything and refuse to think outside of the box, you shouldn't be using android. <3 my iPhone4 and iTunes, click backup, click restore, all done. (btw, iPhone4 is my primary phone.)

[Free APP] SMS Backup +

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zegoggles.smssync
Great for backup/restore of your SMS & Call Logs

I'll second that recommendation. It's an excellent app that I've been using for quite some time now, it's almost an absolute necessity for anybody that flashes ROM's.

I use "mybackup root" which does the above as well as being able to back up and restore MMS pictures. Its free for root users and restores a plethora of other things. Only one that can restore MMS as far as I know.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

peeturr said:
I use "mybackup root" which does the above as well as being able to back up and restore MMS pictures. Its free for root users and restores a plethora of other things. Only one that can restore MMS as far as I know.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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Yep.....that's on my must have apps list.

Using it since some months a lot, just picture perfect. I also interviewed the dev, which you can read (use google trans!) http://www.mobiflip.de/2010/11/dev-interview-jan-berkel-zum-thema-android/

Just downloaded this app....can't quite figure out why it needs to access gmail account? Does it stow call logs and sms in gmail?
I've been using 'call log backup & restoe' and 'sms backup & restore'...... I would like to switch said two apps with just one.
*** Sent from my Samsung Vibrant (Bionix-V-1.2.1) using xda app

sLiKK said:
Just downloaded this app....can't quite figure out why it needs to access gmail account? Does it stow call logs and sms in gmail?
I've been using 'call log backup & restoe' and 'sms backup & restore'...... I would like to switch said two apps with just one.
*** Sent from my Samsung Vibrant (Bionix-V-1.2.1) using xda app
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yes it backs up everything to your gmail account
it's amazing!
it's a 1 touch restore if you ever Format the phone and Wipe factory restore when you change ROMs

It's one of the apps that i always want to have!!!
It's awesome thing to use!!!
I love the fact that i can always go back and search all the SMS in GMail Search
How cool is that?
Once I back up my messages, i delete them immdtly...
/Ash

The app is pretty cool!!! Google is now controlling another part of my life with this!
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sLiKK said:
The app is pretty cool!!! Google is now controlling another part of my life with this!
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Hmmm!!!! Well it is in a lot of ways...But I am loving the life in the cloud anyways!!!
I cant imagine about depending on my computer/HDD for backups anymore!!!
Maybe Google is the lesser of all the devils out there!!
Would it be possible to integrate this Google Account Sync settings? or only google can?

Titanium Backup Pro vs MyBackup Pro

Since flashing new ROMs is the flavor of the season, restoring apps and other stuff on the fone is most required.
Which of these two apps do you prefer?
I am talking about the paid versions here cos the free versions on both TB & MBP are a little buggy.
Here are the pros & cons of either:
Titanium Backup Pro-
PROs
A legend in terms of apps as a whole, has probably been the longest standing and most successful app
various additional features like market links, freezing programs, pulling data from nandroid backups, removing bloatware, etc
CONs
Can get difficult to use for a first timer
not a very easy to use interface
MyBackUp Pro
PROs
Very easy to use interface
Backups both apps & data along with your sms, contacts, settings & even your home page layout
CONs
Does not work accurately 100% of the times
Lots of folks have reported loss of data or unsuccessful restores
do post your thoughts here & any other positives or negatives you know.
it would be good to share your experiences on either & why you prefer one over another.
also feel free to post if you know of any other app which can compete against these 2

i use titanium pro
4 me better than mybackup pro
< titanium > u can restore ur apps + data from cwm backup
rulz
5!

I've only recently started using titanium again and love it. Can't believe I'd forgotten about it for so long!
Sent from my Incredible S

I use go backup. Never had any issues. It backs up everything and restores it perfectly.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

Titanium Backup Pro all the way. If you sit down and just have a fumble through all its menus it's a pretty simple little program.
If you have any troubles, there are tonnes! Of video tutorials that describe this program, and what it can do.

I use my backup root. Not sure what the difference is but it restores apps and data, got a separate freeze app, it's not laggy and best of all it's free. Check it out... Need to be rooted though
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GoBackup is the easiest way to do this. Awesome interface and tools. Does app + data etc. It's free
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium

i use titanium backup
i dont care about the look or interface as long as it is doing the job

i assumed that majority of the folks would be using Titanium backup and the rest mostly would be with my backup..
i haven't even seen go backup, goto check it out

VaderXI said:
I use my backup root. Not sure what the difference is but it restores apps and data, got a separate freeze app, it's not laggy and best of all it's free. Check it out... Need to be rooted though
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Have you had any issues with mybackup at all?
i have a paid version on xperia play, but i face problems like 1 out of 10 times..
like the backup does not complete correctly, have to restart the restore or search and install the apps that weren't restored

FallenSuisydal said:
GoBackup is the easiest way to do this. Awesome interface and tools. Does app + data etc. It's free
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There you go.. thanks number 200

GO Backup - easy, so easy to use - backs up sms, mms, contacts, call logs, homescreen layouts, wifi aps, user app+data. Best of all it's free and ad-free. The paid version adds cloud backup function.

When restore apps using Titanium, is there a way to install apps at once install of being asked for permission to install each individual app?

Only if you are using the pro version of Titanium backup. If you are, click on the top right corner icon and select restore all apps with data. Select /De-select the ones you want. This is also known as a batch restore.

My favourite is
Titanium Backup. Lots of features that other backup managers do not have.
Sent from the future, LIKE A BOSS

Yeah agreed Titanium backup. Must be pro version though, as free version is too limited. Just had a look at Go Backup and are also impressed as its free and can backup home layout. I don't believe TB can do this.

letmedanz said:
Since flashing new ROMs is the flavor of the season, restoring apps and other stuff on the fone is most required.
Which of these two apps do you prefer?
I am talking about the paid versions here cos the free versions on both TB & MBP are a little buggy.
Here are the pros & cons of either:
Titanium Backup Pro-
PROs
A legend in terms of apps as a whole, has probably been the longest standing and most successful app
various additional features like market links, freezing programs, pulling data from nandroid backups, removing bloatware, etc
CONs
Can get difficult to use for a first timer
not a very easy to use interface
MyBackUp Pro
PROs
Very easy to use interface
Backups both apps & data along with your sms, contacts, settings & even your home page layout
CONs
Does not work accurately 100% of the times
Lots of folks have reported loss of data or unsuccessful restores
do post your thoughts here & any other positives or negatives you know.
it would be good to share your experiences on either & why you prefer one over another.
also feel free to post if you know of any other app which can compete against these 2
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i use mybackup pro thats easy

Go backup pro is free and has cloud backup supporting Dropbox and Google Drive ideal for little contact and sms backup for frequent flashers
Sent from my HTC Incredible S

i use Titanium Pro, because i flash a rom every week so it can make flashable zips and i can flash them from recovery and my apps back in moments
If i helpd u Pls give me Thanks
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Hesam said:
i use Titanium Pro, because i flash a rom every week so it can make flashable zips and i can flash them from recovery and my apps back in moments
If i helpd u Pls give me Thanks
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also i sync my contacts and phone settings with my google Account. i love google google is the best
If i helpd u Pls give me Thanks

Have tried all Go Backup and TBP and MBP(tough the title's just TBP VS MBP.
If the case is TBP vs MBP, it's sure victory on TBP.
Never find any single bug for as long as I remember, and yes I've been using it 3 years.
I happen to restore whatssapp before, using MBP, but it won't open, so I have to redownload the app, & yes that's the last time I use MBP.
Go Backup's pretty cool but it can't back up all of your apps into one flashable zip pack
This is the coolest feature that none of the others have.
FYI TBP also have cloud storage feature

HTC Backup

Hi,
i used HTC Backup and made 3 Backups at different times. Now i can only restore the 2nd one because i only get this to choose from.
But in the dropbox folder are all 3 Backups. Is this a bug? Can i force him to use the last backup? HTC phone support was totally useless cause the "specialist" didn't really know what "HTC Backup" really is...
Thx
Daniel

Maybe try moving the other 2 into a different folder to separate them?
Really you shouldn't waste time with HTC's backup anyway. Just run an ADB backup on a PC and use SMS backup for your texts (if you care about that).
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Hi,
i tried to separate them but it also didn't work. I usually do a backup with titanium but i really liked that every setting an the tv app was backuped with htc backup. But as it is, it's just crap.

Dacoco said:
Hi,
i tried to separate them but it also didn't work. I usually do a backup with titanium but i really liked that every setting an the tv app was backuped with htc backup. But as it is, it's just crap.
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You can backup the TV app and setting with Titanium mate

I know but i recently just backed up "All User Apps" and the TV app is not included because it's a system app.
Now i know better

Dacoco said:
I know but i recently just backed up "All User Apps" and the TV app is not included because it's a system app.
Now i know better
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Ahhhhh I normally just do a batch of all system apps then select the ones I need and then another Batch for user apps

Backup Flash Restore

I do enjoy flashing new ROMs and tinkering with various settings, themes, etc. I always struggle with getting all my apps set backup.
I use Titanium Backup pro, but I still always have to reset personalizations, ring tones, default apps, app logins, etc. Is there a better way to make those kind of thing persistent across a backup/restore?
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illushinz said:
I do enjoy flashing new ROMs and tinkering with various settings, themes, etc. I always struggle with getting all my apps set backup.
I use Titanium Backup pro, but I still always have to reset personalizations, ring tones, default apps, app logins, etc. Is there a better way to make those kind of thing persistent across a backup/restore?
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There is an app called "Rom settins backup" or something like that, though be warned. it's these personalisations which make us have to Wipe anyway, so if you were to restore them all, you may as well not wiped. Restore may cause bootloop, so it is just better to set them up each time and get used to it.

illushinz said:
I do enjoy flashing new ROMs
I use Titanium Backup pro, but I still always have to reset personalizations, ring tones, default apps, app logins, etc. Is there a better way . . .
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Always manual restore of settings etc.
I found out that rro/layers can be restored in system/vendor/overlay and will be active after reboot. So I have a backup copy of that directory.