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Hello my Fellow XDAers!!
I am doing some minor upgrades to my computer and would like some advice or suggestions. I got this for a gift for x-mas, it's not a terrible computer, but can use some upgrades.
I play Star Wars: The Old Rebublic and do much programming using eclipse, android kitchen, excel, notepad and photoshop. I dont hardcore game, but I'd like to play with decent graphics.
I plan on building my own comptuer in about a year or two. So I don't want super expensive parts.
Specs:
Dell Inspirion 546
Windows 7 64 bit
Amd Athlon 2 x4 620 processor @ 2.6 ghz
4gb of memory DDR2 PC2-6400 UPGRADABLE TO 8
Ati Radeon HD 3200 Graphics crossfire capable
300 watt stock psu.
My first step is a PSU, video card and memory
Video card- HIS H675F1GD Radeon HD 6750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
PSU- COUGAR RS-Series RS450 (CGR R-450) 450W ATX12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Memory I'm not sure yet, any suggestions would be great.
Let me know what you guys think. Thanks!
That is an awful PSU! One day it blow your computer up, your house up, and you will die in a ball of fire while you sleep.
You don't need more than 4GB of RAM so spend that money on a better PSU. Try a Seasonic 650W
Edit: Don't buy a PSU on it's power rating alone. A bad 600W one will kill you just as fast as a bad 400W one.
PSUs aren't that expensive, and if you have more than one hard drive and disk drive, you will need a better PSU, got for at least 600 watts. Also it would help to tell us what your budget is.
I would go for a better PSU, at least 600W. Check the Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 600W. That's a real good PSU.
If you could spend any extra money, check for an extra hard drive.
I've upgraded my system with a SSD. That's one of the best upgrade I did in years.
Around 250, I don't want to put too much into one I'm gonna rebuild next yet.
So you guys think the graphics card is cool? But the psu sucks?
And 600w won't fry my motherboard? I cant find real specs on this motherboard because its made by dell. I have an ocz and cooler master I think I saved.
Thanks all, look foward to the feedback.
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Go go 8GB of RAM
A PSU won't fry a board unless there is something wrong with on of them.
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Okay thanks. I wasent 100 percent on a dell propriatary board.
Ill post some links to psus and you guys give me your opinions.
I picked a pretty solid graphics card for the price, I take it? No one mentioned anything about it.
Ill get 8g. I've been looking at hyper x, basalisk or g ram. Not sure which one I want to get. I can't oc my bios, so iam thinking of just getting some crucial ram.
My biggest bottle neck is the video card though. Not to mention I can run my intergrated graphics in crossfire mode with my new one when I get it. Thought that was cool when I looked it up on amds website.
What I find shocking is I play world of warcraft on high settings. With over 45 fps in raids and tor everything is on low and get around 35 fps. I thought it would be a little better than low, but I thought wrong.
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There's no point going OTT on any one component in that system. At best it will be mid-range until you throw out everything and start again from scratch. The HD6750 is a weak card though. I'd suggest:
PSU:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/620w...s12ii-620-87-eff-80-plus-bronze-quiet-fan-atx
GPU:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-...s-eyefinity-hdmi-2x-mini-displayport-2x-dvi-i
Forget about the extra RAM. Seriously, you don't need it.
DirkGently said:
There's no point going OTT on any one component in that system. At best it will be mid-range until you throw out everything and start again from scratch. The HD6750 is a weak card though. I'd suggest:
PSU:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/620w...s12ii-620-87-eff-80-plus-bronze-quiet-fan-atx
GPU:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-...s-eyefinity-hdmi-2x-mini-displayport-2x-dvi-i
Forget about the extra RAM. Seriously, you don't need it.
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Looks good ill check them out when I get home. The card looks big my mothrboard is the smaller atx form factor and not full as is the case its mid size. It should fit though.
I'm almost tempted to buy a bigger and better case and move everything over. It almost makes sense, when I do get the money to go hardcore, ill have the case already.
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If a self-build is something you want to pursue, it may be a good idea to give up the idea of upgrading what you have and just start building a new PC from scratch. Buy what you can, when you can, until you have a working build and then sell the Dell to get some of your cash back. Start by getting the case you want and go from there.
I've been building PC's for ten years and that's what i would do. PM me if you need help with any part of it.
I'm going to buy this laptop this week. Can it run HD games like GTA4, MW3, BF3? Here are the specs:
Processor
Intel Pentium Processor B960 (2.0MB L3 Cache, 2.2 GHz, DDR3 1333 MHz, 35 W)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Chipset
Mobile Intel HM65 Express Chipset
Graphics
Intel HD Graphics supporting Microsoft DirectX 10.1
Display
14" HD 1366 x 768 resolution, Acer CineCrystal LED
Memory
2GB DDR3 RAM (2GB x 1 upgradeable to 4GBx2)
HDD
500GB SATA HDD
Audio
Optimized Dolby Advanced Audio v2 audio enhancement
Wireless / LAN
Gigabit Ethernet, Wake-on-LAN ready, 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Certified
Optical Drive
8x DVD Super Multi Plus Drive
Other
Multi-Gesture touchpad
Webcam
Acer Crystal Eye HD Webcam, 1280 x 1024 resolution
Bluetooth
Yes, 4.0+HS
Battery
48.8 W 4400 mAh 6-cell Li-ion standard battery pack. Estimated battery life : 4 hours
Card Reader
Multi-in-1 card treader (SD, MMC, MS PRO & xD)
Interface
3x USB 2.0 ports, HDMI port with HDCP support
Dimension
342(W) x 245(D) x 25.5/34.2 (H) mm
Weight
2.25 kg with 6-cell battery pack
MW3 only on low settings if. I got a Intel HD 3000 and a nvidia gt540m.
But if I was you I would look for something better if you plan play some games. I think nvidia gt540m works good with MW3 because I play it on my notebook and the graphics look good.
When i played MW3 on the Intel HD 3000 I had idea it was not running so smooth.
But Intel HD 3000 can handle 1080p just fine and you can also play some games but I think games like bf3 will not run good on this notebook.
I myself got an Asus K53SV-SX838V and it has Nvdia optimus.
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DexterMorganNL said:
MW3 only on low settings if. I got a Intel HD 3000 and a nvidia gt540m.
But if I was you I would look for something better if you plan play some games. I think nvidia gt540m works good with MW3 because I play it on my notebook and the graphics look good.
When i played MW3 on the Intel HD 3000 I had idea it was not running so smooth.
But Intel HD 3000 can handle 1080p just fine and you can also play some games but I think games like bf3 will not run good on this notebook.
I myself got an Asus K53SV-SX838V and it has Nvdia optimus.
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Thanks for replying,
Actually, I can't afford a laptop as expensive as that. It would be not fair bcuz all of my siblings got mid range price laptops. I just need a cheap gaming laptop.
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Zakyz said:
Thanks for replying,
Actually, I can't afford a laptop as expensive as that. It would be not fair bcuz all of my siblings got mid range price laptops. I just need a cheap gaming laptop.
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My notebook has an i7 2670QM and 8GB Ram, and a decent GPU Nvidia GT540 and it came with a 640GB harddrive which I replaced with a 128GB SSD.
My notebook was € 587 and I even have an USB 3.0 port and the build quality is good. My notebook is an Asus K53SV-SX838V, but I got it with a really good promotion.
So I don't think my notebook was expensive at all.
DexterMorganNL said:
My notebook has an i7 2670QM and 8GB Ram, and a decent GPU Nvidia GT540 and it came with a 640GB harddrive which I replaced with a 128GB SSD.
My notebook was € 587 and I even have an USB 3.0 port and the build quality is good. My notebook is an Asus K53SV-SX838V, but I got it with a really good promotion.
So I don't think my notebook was expensive at all.
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I guess I have no other choice, so I just have to buy this laptop, Acer 4752z.
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I don't know, you look look further? I have no idea what the price off computers is in your country.
Maybe you can better buy an notebook with AMD, because AMD Fusion processor. As these notebooks are really cheap and they seems to have a good GPU part with it.
I'm not fan off AMD, but you can look into it, read online and compare.
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I don't know, you look look further? I have no idea what the price off computers is in your country.
Maybe you can better buy an notebook with AMD, because AMD Fusion processor. As these notebooks are really cheap and they seems to have a good GPU part with it.
I'm not fan off AMD, but you can look into it, read online and compare.
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It costs like BND$800+ here, you can convert it if you want to.
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Intel GFX chips are useless. "even with dedicated memory, but most of them uses shared memory."
No Nvidia or AMD graphics chip = no game.
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Intel GFX chips are useless. "even with dedicated memory, but most of them uses shared memory."
No Nvidia or AMD graphics chip = no game.
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Thx for the info. How about AMD Radeon HD 6320?
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Zakyz said:
Thx for the info. How about AMD Radeon HD 6320?
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The 3D performance of the HD 6320 should be only minimally faster than a 6310 and therefore only low demanding or older games should run fluently (e.g. Call of Duty 4, Sims 3, Left 4 Dead 2, Fifa 11).
Based on the chip in the link bellow it's only a few Mhz faster.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4330.13973.0.html
Unfortunately gaming laptops are bank breakers. "cost very much for very little."
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+HD+6320/review
To give you a better idea of WTF may be playable.
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+HD+6320/games
All and all not bad but many new games will feel the burn even at minimum.
Anything else i can assist you with?
OmegaRED^ said:
The 3D performance of the HD 6320 should be only minimally faster than a 6310 and therefore only low demanding or older games should run fluently (e.g. Call of Duty 4, Sims 3, Left 4 Dead 2, Fifa 11).
Based on the chip in the link bellow it's only a few Mhz faster.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4330.13973.0.html
Unfortunately gaming laptops are bank breakers. "cost very much for very little."
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+HD+6320/review
To give you a better idea of WTF may be playable.
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+HD+6320/games
All and all not bad but many new games will feel the burn even at minimum.
Anything else i can assist you with?
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Nothing else, thank you.
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Can someone suggest any laptop in the price range $500-$550
Features looking for
atleast 15" screen
atleast 4gb ram
international warranty
sturdy build
Good battery life preferably 9 cell
Also, what online or local stores will give the best price other than the ebay?
Depends what do you want the laptop for?
henryedwardrose said:
Depends what do you want the laptop for?
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The above requirements should suffice for the purpose of the laptop. Its basically normal office work and watching movies.-
well Dell have all the requirements above except their 9 cell battery is separate.
Try logicbuy.com
They have name brand PC's (hp, Dell...)
and stackable coupons so you'd probably get a better spec'd pc for that amount as they have a way to allow stackable coupons. I got my HP dV7 (core i7 quad core, 8GB RAM, 2GB Radeon graphics, 17.3in screen) for almost 500$ less than HP's normal pricing (free shipping too)
As for brand? I <3 my hp...
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Hey all,
Been using XDA for a while now for my GNex and GTab10.1, but I've got a PC question for you guys. I'm looking to build my own PC, and have done as much research as I could to make sure I'm picking the proper, quality parts. I just want to run my build past you guys to see if anyone has any suggestions, or if I'm spending too much money on a certain component, etc. Also I want to double-check that everything is compatible (Can I use those 2 monitors with my GPU? Do I need a miniDP-to-DVI adapter or can I run one from my MOBO? Will everything fit well in my case?) I'll be using the computer to multitask with different types of software, along with some gaming.
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 HDMI SATA 6.0Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Intel HD Graphics 4000
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Storage: 1) Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal SSD; 2) Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
GPU: ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5 Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16
Optical Drive: ASUS Black Blu-ray Burner SATA BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS
PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W 80+ Bronze
Monitor x2: Dell P2212H 21.5" LED-Backlit LCD Monitor
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 500R White Steel
I plan on running Windows 7, and upgrading to 8 when it is released. Do any of my components have a cheaper but comparable alternative? The CPU comes with a pretty good stock fan, but should I invest in an aftermarket HSF or will my current setup suffice?
Thanks for your input.
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I would stick with windows 7 personally. Everything else looks great .maybe save for a lil more ram. I've always used nvidia gpu right now I'm still using gtx570 Asus direct cu ii.
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Go with the i5 2500k if you're looking to overclock. Do not get an OCZ SSD, they are horrible.
I think you can run up to three monitors on a at I card here is my setup i7 lga1366 18gbs of ram
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RootTheNoob said:
Go with the i5 2500k if you're looking to overclock.
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I went with the 3570k mainly because it's 3rd generation; for the DirectX 11 and my GPU uses PCI Express 3.0. Still go with Sandy Bridge?
RootTheNoob said:
Go with the i5 2500k if you're looking to overclock. Do not get an OCZ SSD, they are horrible.
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Crucial ssd ftw.
And yes OP...everything will fit in that case no prob.
If you ever wanna mod that sum'***** after it's built, come and find me!
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
Crucial ssd ftw.
And yes OP...everything will fit in that case no prob.
If you ever wanna mod that sum'***** after it's built, come and find me!
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I wouldn't recommend Crucial M4 SSD ( at least for now ) since it's having random freezing issue and it's taking forever for them to release a new firmware update.
<- I have the 64gb M4.
Glosed said:
I plan on running Windows 7, and upgrading to 8 when it is released. Do any of my components have a cheaper but comparable alternative? The CPU comes with a pretty good stock fan, but should I invest in an aftermarket HSF or will my current setup suffice?
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I would say so, especially if you plan on overclocking. CM Hyper 212 is cheap and does the job really well.
aaroncal said:
I would stick with windows 7 personally. Everything else looks great. maybe save for a lil more ram. Sent from my SGH-I777 using xda app-developers app
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I think 8gb is enough... especially for gaming...but - shrug - It depends on what programs he run when he multitask.
Foxy Roxy said:
I wouldn't recommend Crucial M4 SSD ( at least for now ) since it's having random freezing issue and it's taking forever for them to release a new firmware update.
<- I have the 64gb M4.
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That's exactly the one I have. I've had it for a year now. I haven't experienced any freezing. I always update FW, just because, but yeah, no issues.
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That's exactly the one I have. I've had it for a year now. I haven't experienced any freezing. I always update FW, just because, but yeah, no issues.
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Maybe it doesn't apply for everyone, but if you look at their forum - a lot of people are having that issue ( including me ). I'm also on the latest firmware. ( 000f )
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Maybe it doesn't apply for everyone, but if you look at their forum - a lot of people are having that issue ( including me ). I'm also on the latest firmware. ( 000f )
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Fair nuff
I'm just lucky I guess
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Fair nuff
I'm just lucky I guess
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Lol yes you're lucky.
The random freezing issue is ticking me off... I wish they would fix it already! D:
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Lol yes you're lucky.
The random freezing issue is ticking me off... I wish they would fix it already! D:
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I'm gonna do some reading up on the issue.
I'm a member at overclock.net, but I haven't visited for a while. I'm more of a modder than a hardware guy, but I do try to stay current. I might spend some time there tonight.
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thats pretty hardcore hardware right there
If you go with and AMD cpu it will save you money, I have a 3.2GHz dual core (i believe) and it's a good one. mind you I think the total for my computer came out to almost $900.
and I think for the HDD western digital is usually cheaper and it's really all the same. I have western digital and I'm most likely gonna buy a green HDD 1TB; I saw one for about $90 which I think is a pretty decent price. I've seen those seagate barracuda ones going for about $10-20 more
Personally I LOVE the Kingston HyperX SSD's. I have one in my desktop and I have never had a single problem with it. I tried both Intel and OCZ SSDs and they both failed on me.
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thats pretty hardcore hardware right there
If you go with and AMD cpu it will save you money, I have a 3.2GHz dual core (i believe) and it's a good one. mind you I think the total for my computer came out to almost $900.
and I think for the HDD western digital is usually cheaper and it's really all the same. I have western digital and I'm most likely gonna buy a green HDD 1TB; I saw one for about $90 which I think is a pretty decent price. I've seen those seagate barracuda ones going for about $10-20 more
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AMDs are usually easy to overheat than Intel processors. Nothing beats the Ivy Bridge
RootTheNoob said:
Go with the i5 2500k if you're looking to overclock. Do not get an OCZ SSD, they are horrible.
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I've been using my OCZ for a few months now with no problems... Running my systems and as many games as I can fit off of it and it's been great. One note to make about SSD's (in case you don't know, if you do, hopefully I'll help someone out) but you never want to defragment because this adds unnecessary writes (which kills the drive) and you'll gain no performance. Right after I installed windows, i had 25% fragmentation.
As far as your build it looks solid. No matter what you get, you'll hunger for more haha. Make sure to get something crossfire capable so you can crossfire your Radeon if you want to expand the video life of your PC. You may want to look at upgrading your power supply to at least a 750 if you ever plan on running another video card.
I just built a new rig a few months ago and I used Asus's sabertooth 990 series since I went AMD Bulldozer ^_^. 16gb of G. Skill ram DDR3 1866, an Nvidia 550Ti and a 120GB OCZ SSD. So far there has been nothing I've thrown at this PC that it couldn't handle. Skyrim, Deus Ex, SWTOR and Diablo 3 all play at full settings all AA turned on.
What are you paying for that setup if you don't mind me asking?
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Thanks for all the tips guys. That GPU only has one DVI out on it, and my monitors only have DVI in... Will I have any problems if I run one monitor through the DVI port and one through a MiniDP-to-DVI adapter?
As far as memory goes, I'm just going to start with 2 DIMMs and buy 2 more sticks if I feel like I need it. The programs that I'd like to run to multitask include Ableton, Photoshop, a couple medium-high end games (at max settings, of course ) a stock-trading platform, an internet browser with several tabs (though Chrome hardly sips any memory anyway) with MS Office stuff. I really want to take advantage of dual monitors!
Malikai_ said:
I've been using my OCZ for a few months now with no problems... Running my systems and as many games as I can fit off of it and it's been great. One note to make about SSD's (in case you don't know, if you do, hopefully I'll help someone out) but you never want to defragment because this adds unnecessary writes (which kills the drive) and you'll gain no performance. Right after I installed windows, i had 25% fragmentation.
Make sure to get something crossfire capable so you can crossfire your Radeon if you want to expand the video life of your PC. You may want to look at upgrading your power supply to at least a 750 if you ever plan on running another video card.
What are you paying for that setup if you don't mind me asking?
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Thanks for the tips. Did not know that about SSD's. The 7850 is Crossfire ready so I'm good to go there. That whole build comes in at $1500, not including a keyboard/mouse or OS.
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Thanks for the tips. Did not know that about SSD's. The 7850 is Crossfire ready so I'm good to go there. That whole build comes in at $1500, not including a keyboard/mouse or OS.
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No problem, glad I could help
I recently shelled out around 12 or 13 hundred for my setup, but didn't get anything for storage besides my SSD since i had 750gb worth of storage that I migrated over from my old machine. I'm an AMD man myself, and I'm loving the UEFI bios on my ASUS Sabertooth 990FX. The software that ASUS includes with the board allows you to monitor Also, you can't beat 8 cores I was able to overclock using the stock board settings to 3.9GHz on my 8120 FX proc. Its only 159.99 on newegg right now and all FX series are black edition proc's which means complete control over your proc settings. I'm using a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo for my CPU cooler. Its pretty big, so if you look into this cooler make sure your case has room for it, but im running a steady 34C and haven't seen it go above 40. Some people report as cool as 18c.
As far as your Video card, there are tons of cards out there with multi DVI support, you may want to look at another manufacturer, as I don't see you getting true video performance out of a usb adapter. Although I've never used one, I suspect it will be a huge bottleneck.
Here are a few images of the AI Suite included with the Sabertooth 990FX (used splashtop to grab them since im at work hehe)
I am asking if one of these manufacturers is worth building an efficient gaming pc or custom pc.
according to you intel is "efficient gaming pc" but amd is "custom pc"
answer these questions
what games are you gonna play
will you be recording/streaming
what's your budget
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according to you intel is "efficient gaming pc" but amd is "custom pc"
answer these questions
what games are you gonna play
will you be recording/streaming
what's your budget
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The games that I would play are: PUBG, Using Minecraft Shaders, Fortnite, and high rendering games. Not going to stream yet or record. My budget is around $700.
In principle, if you compare the 10th generation of Intel or the 3rd AMD, then you will not see much difference in price. But, if you think for a long time, then you need to take it under AMD, because motherboards are cheaper and will still support the 4th generation of processors. It will even be enough to take some Ryzen 5 2600 in conjunction with a motherboard on socket B350
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In principle, if you compare the 10th generation of Intel or the 3rd AMD, then you will not see much difference in price. But, if you think for a long time, then you need to take it under AMD, because motherboards are cheaper and will still support the 4th generation of processors. It will even be enough to take some Ryzen 5 2600 in conjunction with a motherboard on socket B350
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waiting until the 5000 series shortage is gone is much better
people will sell their 3rd series probably for half the price on ebay
basically waiting is just much much better than buying in this situation on both sides (intel and amd)
@KeyPlays133 what GPU are you gonna use?
if you haven't chosen you should get like a 2060 super/2060/1660 super
get the 2060 super if you want to "futureproof" your pc for 2 years or more or just wait for the rtx 40 series (if they exist) this year
20 series would probably be dirt cheap if those get released
or if AMD actually gets their ray tracing game on par with NVIDIA