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Difference between S9000 and Nexus S?

Can someone tell me what the big difference is between the Nexus S and the Galaxy S9000?
I know the Nexus S has NFC and a LED flash - but what are the differences in performance and battery life?

why dont u just google it here is the link
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and stop spamming...........

Man, you're a real helper! Or just an idiot?
I wanted personal opinions, not stupid spec-comparison.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17578399

Cousin sold the SGS and bought a NS recently, so I played with it. What to say ? Build quality is great, SGS is a plastic toy compared to it. System is faster, because it doesn't have the crappy moviNAND like SGS (so no microlags) + also AOSP Android helps with that. There's no 720p video recording though and no 3G video call. The SLCD screen aint that bad, AMOLED on SGS still prettier though. Performance regarding apps & games is the same on both (same hardware), battery usage also (same battery size). Anything else ? If you're deciding between those 2, go for NS.

madd0g said:
The SLCD screen aint that bad
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nexus s has super amoloed.

f3n0m3no said:
nexus s has super amoloed.
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not the european version only us

romdroid. said:
not the european version only us
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Correcto mundo.
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f3n0m3no said:
nexus s has super amoloed.
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No my friend ! Bacause of shortage of super amoled screens samsung used lcd screen in nexus s for many countries ( i am from india and its lcd here) ! Also the processor is same in both galaxy s and nexus s but nexus s is a bit thivk also internal memory is just 4gb while galaxy s has 16gb! I dont think that nfc has gr8 use in the near future so dont compare in terms of nfc ! I also had the same choice and i chose galaxy s! But for a fact i must tell you that nexus s will be the first phone to be upated to ice cre sandwhich when it comes out ! Bit still go for galaxy s ! Its the best ! Also development of roms and all that stuff is more on galaxy s and in some countries nexus s has thr bootloader locked which can be unlocked but requires some work !
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Janzomaster said:
Man, you're a real helper! Or just an idiot?
I wanted personal opinions, not stupid spec-comparison.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17578399
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Some people just like to flame others, and ruin the community of XDA.
Honestly there isn't much difference. Nexus S gets stuff first, but the SGS eventually gets the same FW anyway.
Actually I like the SGS more anyway, since the Nexus S doesn't have Micro SD and that's an automatic dealbreaker for me...
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The i9000 has a Better Hardware...the nexus s was a failure thats what i think
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Should i buy this phone: g2 vs nexus s

Hello fellow xda members, im visiting from the p500 section, and I'm in the market for a new phone. So i have the choice Between this and the nexus s. Can you all. Demystify the issues I've heard? The hdmi out is really selling me, but people tell me about various issues. So can yall help me?
Thanks!
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well to be honest this device has had a fair share of problems i luckily didnt face any of them from my experience it beats nexus s in all ways, processor camera hdmi speed display built quality, all aspects are better. There are a few thing though u should look before getting this device if u get a used one from the market
1- Put on a black wallpaper or image and see the corners for lcd bleeding
2- Load couple of system apps like camera and stuff see if it looses responsiveness or restarts, finally look closely at lcd if there are dead pixels if it passes those test ill buy the g2x no doubt about it

rukhi said:
well to be honest this device has had a fair share of problems i luckily didnt face any of them from my experience it beats nexus s in all ways, processor camera hdmi speed display built quality, all aspects are better. There are a few thing though u should look before getting this device if u get a used one from the market
1- Put on a black wallpaper or image and see the corners for lcd bleeding
2- Load couple of system apps like camera and stuff see if it looses responsiveness or restarts, finally look closely at lcd if there are dead pixels if it passes those test ill buy the g2x no doubt about it
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Oh, ok. Well I'm getting it new on my provider (wind mobile) so i hopfully won't run into those problems
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Oh, ok. Well I'm getting it new on my provider (wind mobile) so i hopfully won't run into those problems
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welcome m8 to o2x users!!! hope that you will get a good one. even though you get a bad one, you can still exchange it right???

Yes, if i don't use 30 minutes. Is there a problem with quality control? How will i know i got a bad one?
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Yes, if i don't use 30 minutes. Is there a problem with quality control? How will i know i got a bad one?
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usually when you get a bad one, there is problem like BSOD(Suddenly your hp shutdown it self), SOD(Sleep Of Death = when it goes to standby, you cannot turn it on again)
or maybe example like another users the device so hot

joeyxl said:
Yes, if i don't use 30 minutes. Is there a problem with quality control? How will i know i got a bad one?
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O you will know
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Get s2.. ram matters In android
..512 mb is low for high end...
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But with roms, kernels, etc...is this a better device than the nexus s?
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I know this thread is old but...
Just have to say... If you didn't get it, I bet you wish you did Nexus S is first phone after gn to get ics! This phone is the ISH! It is now clear why google chose this phone over the g2- the gpu still beast enough to handle ICS, while none of the other phones (except gs) of the time(not event g2) can compete. I will never buy anything but Nexus.
Nexus FTW!

So I take it that google just doesnt care about the consumer experience.

Just got a nexus 4 for a friend and I am appalled at how average the screen still looks with stock kernel, how on earth has google not fixed this yet? Why does someone need to install franco kernel or whatever to get the best use of the hardware? Wasnt sheer optimization the hallmark of nexus? What is google doing it doesnt even care.
Similar was the story with the nexus S. You needed custom kernel to unlock the audio capability of the phone because google didnt want us to listen to such audio quality? It was simply appalling and did not make any sense at all especially after listening just how much difference it made to the sound quality and power.
I dont have much experience with the galaxy nexus so I cant say but once again the same old BS with the nexus 4, install custom kernel for blah blah cuz google is too lazy/doesnt care. Franco kernel makes such a big difference to the screen and there is obviously no "drawback" to this that I can see so what is google doing? It doesnt want its users to use their smartphones on a more beautiful screen with no cost added? The nexus 4 stock screen is even worse than the i9023 nexus S, what more can be said!!
PS: I am a power user and have no issues installing custom roms and kernels but due to google's indifference on so many things it seems like the nexus isnt that great a phone for noobs as it could be.

The screen looks much better now in Android 4.3

"Noobs" probably don't even know about the N4. They all buy the Galaxy S3/S4 or iCrap.

Saketme said:
The screen looks much better now in Android 4.3
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That would be great.
vanmarek said:
"Noobs" probably don't even know about the N4. They all buy the Galaxy S3/S4 or iCrap.
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But noobs do have geek friends. I have made 2 of my "noob" friends to purchase a nexus 4 when they were all set to get the galaxy S3.

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"Noobs" probably don't even know about the N4. They all buy the Galaxy S3/S4 or iCrap.
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Nope. The N4 has been a massive hit and is now known by pretty much everyone.

Gambler_3 said:
Just got a nexus 4 for a friend and I am appalled at how average the screen still looks with stock kernel, how on earth has google not fixed this yet? Why does someone need to install franco kernel or whatever to get the best use of the hardware? Wasnt sheer optimization the hallmark of nexus? What is google doing it doesnt even care.
Similar was the story with the nexus S. You needed custom kernel to unlock the audio capability of the phone because google didnt want us to listen to such audio quality? It was simply appalling and did not make any sense at all especially after listening just how much difference it made to the sound quality and power.
I dont have much experience with the galaxy nexus so I cant say but once again the same old BS with the nexus 4, install custom kernel for blah blah cuz google is too lazy/doesnt care. Franco kernel makes such a big difference to the screen and there is obviously no "drawback" to this that I can see so what is google doing? It doesnt want its users to use their smartphones on a more beautiful screen with no cost added? The nexus 4 stock screen is even worse than the i9023 nexus S, what more can be said!!
PS: I am a power user and have no issues installing custom roms and kernels but due to google's indifference on so many things it seems like the nexus isnt that great a phone for noobs as it could be.
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I think the screen is pretty good on my stock nexus 4 and thats from someone whos been a amoled user from the very start and i dont think google is the only one which didnt unlock its audio capabilities as samsung did the same with their galaxy s, that needed a kernel change i.e voodoo sound to release the full wolfson power.

Most people I know never even heard of the Nexus. I have to explain to them it is a Google phone. It isn't that Android doesn't care about the consumer. It is that this phone isn't targeted towards the average consumer. It is more a developers phone and such being the case, tweaking can be left for the great developers here.
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Threads started by Gambler_3:
- Who eats Pasta on a rainy day ???
- Why is there no mention of Kangaroos in the Bible? They're such an exciting animal..
- [POLL] I shot the sheriff, but i did not shoot ...
and my personal best:
-Who let the Sheep out ???
for the rest check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=202763890

hammer2007 said:
I think the screen is pretty good on my stock nexus 4 and thats from someone whos been a amoled user from the very start and i dont think google is the only one which didnt unlock its audio capabilities as samsung did the same with their galaxy s, that needed a kernel change i.e voodoo sound to release the full wolfson power.
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Yes but its an old story now, I havent heard of any such thing with the S3 and S4.

I think you've missed the point of the Nexus line. First and foremost it is a developer oriented platform. If it was meant to be pretty and have tons of near-useless eye candy and apps you'd be looking at an iPhone or Samsung or HTC. Customize the Nexus however you want, it is meant to be a blank slate.
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rayiskon said:
Threads started by Gambler_3:
- Who eats Pasta on a rainy day ???
- Why is there no mention of Kangaroos in the Bible? They're such an exciting animal..
- [POLL] I shot the sheriff, but i did not shoot ...
and my personal best:
-Who let the Sheep out ???
for the rest check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=202701407
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From the sharp mind that brought you 'all android apps have lag' and 'I don't understand why people complain about on screen buttons'... Here comes another epic thread.
Please everyone, take a look at the wonderful content that comes out of this guy's mind.
Look at it and lose the last hope you had in humanity!
Just kidding , don't.
He's a lame troll, don't feed the critter.
Pretty much the Uwe Boll of xda, top quality content.
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Thanks @drakester but I think the best thing is that honestly I don't think Gambler even owns Nexus 4.
So I'm not sure why to crap with all the negativity against it or Google and in this day and age with so many choices I can't even comprehend why not to go with the device you like instead of complain or sit down and start tweeking the way you want it - its Android! And please don't say there are limitations to what you can do with the customisation...
Or as an alternative please construct proper discussion and not complain.
Edit: please.... Power user? Or maybe yes you are right just a user indeed. So if yoy have so many issues why not to create something that everyone else could use it and enjoy it and you can set Google example how you believe things should be done.
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Saketme said:
Nope. The N4 has been a massive hit and is now known by pretty much everyone.
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I assume you are being sarcastic as the N4 has not been a massive hit. And if I asked my friends what the Nexus 4 was, I don't think a single one of them would know it was a phone.

Saketme said:
Nope. The N4 has been a massive hit and is now known by pretty much everyone.
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fernandezhjr said:
Most people I know never even heard of the Nexus. I have to explain to them it is a Google phone. It isn't that Android doesn't care about the consumer. It is that this phone isn't targeted towards the average consumer. It is more a developers phone and such being the case, tweaking can be left for the great developers here.
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I agree with ya man. I recently switched from tmobile to metropcs and the guy in the metro store kept asking me...
"is this an android phone?"
yes...it is its the nexus 4.
"ive never heard of it. we carry tons and tons of phones but never seen this one"....are you positive its an android phone...
yes. im positive its running 4.2.2 jelly bean.....
"hmmmm ive never seen this before."
well its the google phone. i bought it straight from google

Everyone who knows android, knows what a nexus device is.........you must be being sarcastic. Let's judge a phones success by what the nimrod at metro PCS says???????
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So you claim to be a power user but you don't check the forum reactions before buying a phone????
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Everyone things I have a galaxy, no one in their right mind knows what this thing is. They'll ask if that's the new HTC, Android, Droid, Samsung, Galaxy S, S4, or iPhone (??).
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Ace42 said:
Everyone things I have a galaxy, no one in their right mind knows what this thing is. They'll ask if that's the new HTC, Android, Droid, Samsung, Galaxy S, S4, or iPhone (??).
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One of the reasons why I get a nexus. Everywhere I have gone, it grabs attention. People used to seeing S3s and iPhones go 'that's a cool looking phone, which one is it'. Has even been a good conversation starter for me a few times. One time when I said it was from LG, this guy was like 'lg makes such nice phones too?!!'? LOL

N4 is relatively unknown, Google intended it to be that way..... imho, that's the only thing that makes any sense. Had the n4 had half the marketing the s3 or s4 had I think the n4 would've really made some noise.
What a shame, so many miss out on experiencing pure vanilla awesomeness
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PSA: Galaxy SII now $199 on HSN

OK I have a birthday tomorrow and as a present I am moving on to the Galaxy SII (yes, it's FINALLY my turn to say that!). $199 was too good to refuse, especially with 4 flexpays of $50. Two years of battling the Exhibit are enough, wouldn't you say? Anyway I will miss the forum around here a bit, even though we've had a number of departures over the past year. If it wasn't for the good folks in this community the Exhibit would have been retired LONG ago for me. Frankly without a custom ROM/kernel it is a POS device. No other way to put it! At least we have one or two new guys on the block to carry on for those who still have this phone or just got it. I wish them luck. As for myself I can't wait to try all the things that are available on XDA for this device. Hope I don't flash more ROMs than I did for the Exhibit or I will have no life left, LOL.
Anyway for those who are interested, go here for the deal: http://www.hsn.com/products/samsung-galaxy-sii-no-contract-smartphone-t-mobile/7334966
A couple months they ran out and just now got these phones back in stock. At that price I bet they don't have them for long.

Good deal. Glad you are getting something you want, it'll be sad to see you go. You've always been helpful, and generously shared your experience with testing and results. So for that thank you.
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Artful!!! I know I will miss having you around, that is a good deal, if they have them on pay day my wife will be very happy Lol. She's still on the S1
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tazmaniondvl said:
Artful!!! I know I will miss having you around, that is a good deal, if they have them on pay day my wife will be very happy Lol. She's still on the S1
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Thanks man. Unfortunately HSN just raised the price back up to $249, same as they have it on Amazon. Man glad I didn't procrastinate anymore like I always do. Funny thing is I watched the video presentation they did on TV and I'm thinking how many more they could sell if they promoted the fact you can root & get the latest ROMs out there. Of course if they did that people would know they can get rid of that bloatware! Just think of the poor sheep who will just keep stock ICS on it.

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Thanks man. Unfortunately HSN just raised the price back up to $249, same as they have it on Amazon. Man glad I didn't procrastinate anymore like I always do. Funny thing is I watched the video presentation they did on TV and I'm thinking how many more they could sell if they promoted the fact you can root & get the latest ROMs out there. Of course if they did that people would know they can get rid of that bloatware! Just think of the poor sheep who will just keep stock ICS on it.
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I think that rooting is beyond the scope of most people's interest. As it also voids any warranty, the manufacturer would be slightly against HSN promoting the practice, is my guess.
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Proud2banoob said:
I think that rooting is beyond the scope of most people's interest. As it also voids any warranty, the manufacturer would be slightly against HSN promoting the practice, is my guess.
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Oh yeah, sure that's part of it too. Sadly you're right, most people probably wouldn't want to make effort to make their phone better than it is. Too much thinking involved!

Which is good for me, as it means phones which have already been rooted sell for less on eBay. Saving me money and hassle.
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Just think of the poor sheep who will just keep stock ICS on it.
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It probably comes with stock 4.1.2.
I don't think you are going to be disappointed. It is an awesome phone still.

If I had one I'd root it and get CyanogenMod
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meekrawb said:
It probably comes with stock 4.1.2.
I don't think you are going to be disappointed. It is an awesome phone still.
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They said 4.0 on the commercial and on the website. A friend of mine has one and it has ICS on it. No matter because it will be rooted and updated when I get it. Question will be whether or not to go with a 4.2.2 rom or KitKat. So many apps need to catch up to ART and the whole 4.4 OS system.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Exhibit running AOIP.

Yes. There still needs to be some development before I move to 4.0. I'm very interested, once the system had been around a bit. I don't usually get the x.0 version of any software. To many issues.
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Sorry. 4.4.... Brain fart.
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S2 has arrived
Well the phone is finally here so it's goodbye to the Exhibit! Thanks to so many who made the Exhibit a tolerable phone and were a pleasure to have banter/discussions with here in the Exhibit forum. Shout outs and thank you's to @camcory, @jocala, @Tim1928, @smartguy044, @bpear96, @detett, @tazmaniondvl, @meekwrb, @Dvarl, @CoolLoL1999, @[email protected], @jrleathers, @Bloodflame (aka "Flames of Blood"), @afwolfpacked (aka "Airwolf"), @cars1189, and @Jaws4God. @jfbs good luck to you, you will be the last salvation for this phone. @Proud2banoob good luck in learning the ropes!
BTW if I forgot somebody it wasn't on purpose. Now on to the hard work of rooting and finding a ROM for the new phone. Hopefully I will settle on one or two but if my experience with the Exhibit showed anything it was a penchant for being a fairweather ROM user!:laugh: I may stop by here every now and then too, afterall I haven't given the Exhibit away to anybody yet.
Lastly if it was one thing I got out of using this phone, it was to appreciate a really good phone once I got it.

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Lastly if it was one thing I got out of using this phone, it was to appreciate a really good phone once I got it.
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hah hah! Congrats sir on the new phone.
I went ahead and plunked some coin for a Nexus 5. It has some sound bugs (some sound is fine with some apps and not others) and the vibration isn't as strong on key presses (but in other areas is fine and a tester app I found shows the vibration motor is fine). Meh, the speed just kicks butt! Also, having 2G of RAM is ..... awesome. The quad core ... anyway .. you get the idea.
I am still thinking of which ROM to put on ... I had cyanogenmod on my other phone and I loved it ... but they're not quite ready.
Take care and thanks for writing man!
-pablo

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hah hah! Congrats sir on the new phone.
I went ahead and plunked some coin for a Nexus 5. It has some sound bugs (some sound is fine with some apps and not others) and the vibration isn't as strong on key presses (but in other areas is fine and a tester app I found shows the vibration motor is fine). Meh, the speed just kicks butt! Also, having 2G of RAM is ..... awesome. The quad core ... anyway .. you get the idea.
I am still thinking of which ROM to put on ... I had cyanogenmod on my other phone and I loved it ... but they're not quite ready.
Take care and thanks for writing man!
-pablo
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Ah c'mon, you know you want to sell that Nexus and go back to the Exhibit along with some RebelROM! LOL.

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Ah c'mon, you know you want to sell that Nexus and go back to the Exhibit along with some RebelROM! LOL.
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I still have that little phone ... my oldest boy has it and the RebelROM runs mostly well .... same as wifey.

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Ah c'mon, you know you want to sell that Nexus and go back to the Exhibit along with some RebelROM! LOL.
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Augh! RebelROM!!! I'm having a PTSD flashback! AD, it was good to work with you. You taught me a lot. Good luck. I will try to nab one of those Galaxy Lights to use as a DD, so i can keep playing with the Exhibit. It's a solid little phone and good learning tool. I wish you all the best and don't forget us!

I know I haven't been active in the exhibit community . But I'm glad you guys enjoyed RebelRom so much . Enjoy your nexus 5!
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I know I haven't been active in the exhibit community . But I'm glad you guys enjoyed RebelRom so much . Enjoy your nexus 5!
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It's really good to hear from you man, and yes RebelROM was hands down the best GB ROM this phone ever had. People here can testify how many times I went back to it every time I got frustrated with one of the ICS ROMs back in the day.

Lol I just came back from rebel Lol, ran great but I sure did miss all the features of newer ROMs. But I like that galaxy light as well quad core with 1gb ram sounds a ton better then this lol
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@ArtfulDodger...
Man, I'm gonna miss seeing you around here because I don't say much and when things got a little quiet , you were still there, keeping the ball rolling. Everything ends at some point and I'm just waiting for the day this place turns into a ghost town. At least some awesome devs left us in a pretty.good spot. Also, thanks for all your help as you were part of making this phone great as well.
Good luck fellow Kentuckian!
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long time no talk

Hello everybody!
Yes its been like for ever since i broke my HTC First and moved on and since then ive had an Atrix HD and now have a Red Nexus 5. Running lollipop.
But still i look back to this phone and still think this is probably the best phone ive owned. All day battery, great size and build quality, stock android. Yes development was always a minus, but still.
How is everyone doing?
PS: thinking of getting my sister an HTC First, its a pretty solid device hardware wise and she doesnt care much about software, she is using an old ipod touch and an ipad, shes tired of ios

Good to see someone else converting to the Android master race > lol. I agree with the fact that the battery generally lasted all day, but the lack of speed is what caused me to want to get something better. But yeah it was a good device when I came from a MyTouch 3G and then 3 Windows Phones.
Off topic here, are you seeing any drop in battery life on the official Lollipop update on your N5 compared to an AOSP version from a few days ago?
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procitysam said:
Good to see someone else converting to the Android master race > lol. I agree with the fact that the battery generally lasted all day, but the lack of speed is what caused me to want to get something better. But yeah it was a good device when I came from a MyTouch 3G and then 3 Windows Phones.
Off topic here, are you seeing any drop in battery life on the official Lollipop update on your N5 compared to an AOSP version from a few days ago?
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Haha I've converted to android since 2011 and my sister never likes apple anyways.
Miss this community so much, looks like everyone has left like Abraham and loir.
Um at first battery life was more like battery death but after a reboot and full charge I did manage to get my minimum of 4 hours screen on time. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get 5 hours.
I was thinking moto g, vs the HTC first, but I haven't found anything in it that is better than in the First. Especially for my sis who has really small hands surprisingly (she's 5 years younger but as big as me and I'm 19...)

still using my First and still hoping to get at least KitKat so that i can pair with android wear...
but looks like no luck and i have to change my phone soon.
:crying:
but seriously between first and Moto G, i'll get the moto G
at least you get official Lollipop support. 5 hrs SOT.
The 1st gen Moto G size is not that much bigger than the 1st

DecaPix said:
still using my First and still hoping to get at least KitKat so that i can pair with android wear...
but looks like no luck and i have to change my phone soon.
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but seriously between first and Moto G, i'll get the moto G
at least you get official Lollipop support. 5 hrs SOT.
The 1st gen Moto G size is not that much bigger than the 1st
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Yes you get software support..but this isn't for me. Its for my sister and plus I'd like to get back into hacking and stuff cause with a nexus you don't really want to tinker much

russian392 said:
Haha I've converted to android since 2011 and my sister never likes apple anyways.
Miss this community so much, looks like everyone has left like Abraham and loir.
Um at first battery life was more like battery death but after a reboot and full charge I did manage to get my minimum of 4 hours screen on time. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get 5 hours.
I was thinking moto g, vs the HTC first, but I haven't found anything in it that is better than in the First. Especially for my sis who has really small hands surprisingly (she's 5 years younger but as big as me and I'm 19...)
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Yeah Lloir is no longer here since he bricked his First so he just upgraded to something else. Jmz is no longer here, and I'm not sure if sun_dream is here either. I know someone was working on a CM11 port but he told me that he needed to learn more before it was going to work well enough for daily use.
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procitysam said:
Yeah Lloir is no longer here since he bricked his First so he just upgraded to something else. Jmz is no longer here, and I'm not sure if sun_dream is here either. I know someone was working on a CM11 port but he told me that he needed to learn more before it was going to work well enough for daily use.
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I just hate to see such a good device "go to waste".
I also wish i could port cm11, atleast learn some how, but my only computer is my desktop at home, and internet at 700kbps is not enough to do anything except browse the web. But if internet wasnt a problem id definitely try even though i have no idea how.
CM puts so much effort into mainstream devices that will get updates anyways and never focus on forgotten devices.

russian392 said:
I just hate to see such a good device "go to waste".
I also wish i could port cm11, atleast learn some how, but my only computer is my desktop at home, and internet at 700kbps is not enough to do anything except browse the web. But if internet wasnt a problem id definitely try even though i have no idea how.
CM puts so much effort into mainstream devices that will get updates anyways and never focus on forgotten devices.
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Yeah and it's sad because it didn't use to be like that. It's gonna be even worse when CM12 is released because they said that if a device 1) is not owned by maintainers or 2) can't cooperate with the new security measures then they won't support it at all.
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procitysam said:
Yeah and it's sad because it didn't use to be like that. It's gonna be even worse when CM12 is released because they said that if a device 1) is not owned by maintainers or 2) can't cooperate with the new security measures then they won't support it at all.
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Oh wow...yeah thats not good so I guess only options is unofficial ports.

russian392 said:
Oh wow...yeah thats not good so I guess only options is unofficial ports.
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Yeah probably. The best part is though that the GS3 Mini and Motorola Defy have both gotten 5.0 ports.
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procitysam said:
Yeah probably. The best part is though that the GS3 Mini and Motorola Defy have both gotten 5.0 ports.
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I'm gonna try to contact carbon ROM and see if they could take up development here. Better than nothing.

russian392 said:
I'm gonna try to contact carbon ROM and see if they could take up development here. Better than nothing.
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I've never heard of Carbon ROM. Is it AOSP with added features?
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procitysam said:
I've never heard of Carbon ROM. Is it AOSP with added features?
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Its like a more stable version of CM with more features brought over from other Roms but its not as crazy as paranoid android or aokp

I dont want to upgrade also, I know i'll miss the design of the First if I sell it

I agree, First is a great phone, stylish, great design and ergonomics, i will keep this phone no matter what. My daily driver is Moto X, 2013 model. I like to use my phone in one hand, never liked anything over 4.7-in screen size, have had Samsung S3, original Note, Note 2 and Note 3, traded them all, although i really liked S3 the most, couldn't live with the Notes. Htc First has become my backup phone. Previously, i used a Palm Pre Plus as my backup, but i finally traded it in.

jamesc760 said:
I agree, First is a great phone, stylish, great design and ergonomics, i will keep this phone no matter what. My daily driver is Moto X, 2013 model. I like to use my phone in one hand, never liked anything over 4.7-in screen size, have had Samsung S3, original Note, Note 2 and Note 3, traded them all, although i really liked S3 the most, couldn't live with the Notes. Htc First has become my backup phone. Previously, i used a Palm Pre Plus as my backup, but i finally traded it in.
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Yeah totally agree. I have a nexus 5 right now and it's quite great for one handed use. But looking for a first for my mom

russian392 said:
Yeah totally agree. I have a nexus 5 right now and it's quite great for one handed use. But looking for a first for my mom
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So... Is there anybody working CM on HTC first ? I guess not... It's so sad. But i still like my first.

hohosanta said:
So... Is there anybody working CM on HTC first ? I guess not... It's so sad. But i still like my first.
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Not that I know of. It's strange considering getting drivers for this chip set should be a piece of cake...