Dear Everyone
I want to ask everyone
Now I use a custom kernel and still stock rom , if i want to update to stock rom via ODIN
should i flash the kernel to Stock Kernel first and flash the stock rom , or just flash the rom anyway via ODIN ?
I am still use stock rom ( ICS 4.0.4 )
and the kernel is standard Notecore v13
I'm sorry my English Is so Bad
If you flash update via PC Odin, your custom kernel will be replaced by unsafe stock kernel, as well you will lose root. You have to reflash custom kernel to root and also need to reset counter.
If you want to preserve root and custom kernel, you can use Mobile Odin
Find 'ROM switching' from my signature for detail guide how to use Mobile Odin.
dr.ketan said:
If you flash update via PC Odin, your custom kernel will be replaced by unsafe stock kernel, as well you will lose root. You have to reflash custom kernel to root and also need to reset counter.
If you want to preserve root and custom kernel, you can use Mobile Odin
Find 'ROM switching' from my signature for detail guide how to use Mobile Odin.
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if i update to stock rom with mobile odin, can i keep the root if i enable option everoot ?
Yes you can, but then you won't b on safe kernel.
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All Right
Thank you so much :good:
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I want to upgrade/update from stock GB rooted. Which one to use? I have paid mobile odin and also access to pc odin. Which one is guaranteed not to have binary count and/or Yellow triangle?
bongski55 said:
I want to upgrade/update from stock GB rooted. Which one to use? I have paid mobile odin and also access to pc odin. Which one is guaranteed not to have binary count and/or Yellow triangle?
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If you're going to Stock ICS then use PC Odin, It will not increase the Binary counter - either way you will lose root but follow Dr. K's method to root once on ICS.
I believe the Yellow triangle will only trigger if flashing a non-stock (Custom) Kernel via PC Odin. I use Mobile ODIN for kernel flashing.
CJSlim79 said:
If you're going to Stock ICS then use PC Odin, It will not increase the Binary counter - either way you will lose root but follow Dr. K's method to root once on ICS.
I believe the Yellow triangle will only trigger if flashing a non-stock (Custom) Kernel via PC Odin. I use Mobile ODIN for kernel flashing.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I have just watched Cursed4eva youtube video using Mobile Odin to flash German ICS stock on rooted gb. I think that was also ok. but he did mention if binary count is triggered. It also has everroot enabled. Seems ok ?
If you want to flash just stock ROM, you can use either.
Stock ROM won't raise counter in anyway.
But i do recommend is go with PC Odin. as well clean.
You are already rooted so make backup with titanium
Hard reset (wipe cache and data from recovery) on existing GB ROM
-Flash ICS using PC Odin
-Root it, and restore appl using TB (avoid restoring sys junk, just only restore user app)
And yes above menton method won't increae flash counter.
Use first link on my signature to get ICS ROM + installation N rooting instruction
dr.ketan said:
If you want to flash just stock ROM, you can use either.
Stock ROM won't raise counter in anyway.
But i do recommend is go with PC Odin. as well clean.
You are already rooted so make backup with titanium
Hard reset (wipe cache and data from recovery) on existing GB ROM
-Flash ICS using PC Odin
-Root it, and restore appl using TB (avoid restoring sys junk, just only restore user app)
And yes above menton method won't increae flash counter.
Use first link on my signature to get ICS ROM + installation N rooting instruction
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Successfully updated to DXLR2. Now another question- How do I install a custom kernel like Speedmod without triggering the binary counter?
Follow Dr.ketan's Rooting guide for ICS and install a custom kernel through CWM recovery or using mobile ODIN. :good:
Pc odin is more safer than mobile odin
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danteoo7 said:
Pc odin is more safer than mobile odin
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I usually flash kernels with Mobile Odin or CWM.. I don't like to flash custom kernels with PC Odin as the Binary counter increases. Yes, I know that you can use Triangle Away.. But this for me should be a last resort when there are other methods available..
I rooted via Dr. K's method and flashed the latest Speedmod Kernel via Mobile Odin - I am running Stock 4.0.3 with SpeedMod K3-11. NO Binary count increase and no need for Triangle Away...
I think there's a few people getting to used to using TA to take short cuts to do things....It is itself, not without risk...
CJSlim79 said:
I usually flash kernels with Mobile Odin or CWM.. I don't like to flash custom kernels with PC Odin as the Binary counter increases. Yes, I know that you can use Triangle Away.. But this for me should be a last resort when there are other methods available..
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I've searched for hours about this and you might have just answered my lingering question. I am on stock rooted 4.0.3, and have been looking to flash a custom kernel, while avoiding pc odin, and binary count. Just wasn't sure if mobile odin was safe or not to flash kernel, while running stock kernel.
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gtranvi said:
I've searched for hours about this and you might have just answered my lingering question. I am on stock rooted 4.0.3, and have been looking to flash a custom kernel, while avoiding pc odin, and binary count. Just wasn't sure if mobile odin was safe or not to flash kernel, while running stock kernel.
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Mobile Odin is safe to flash a custom kernel.
Download the kernel you want to flash to your SD card (internal or external).
Run Mobile Odin, grant access through Superuser and go to the kernel section inside Mobile Odin pro and look for the kernel that you earlier saved from the download.
After that, just tap on flash firmware (inside Mobile Odin still) and that would restart your phone and once booted, you now have a new kernel.
aurator said:
Mobile Odin is safe to flash a custom kernel.
Download the kernel you want to flash to your SD card (internal or external).
Run Mobile Odin, grant access through Superuser and go to the kernel section inside Mobile Odin pro and look for the kernel that you earlier saved from the download.
After that, just tap on flash firmware (inside Mobile Odin still) and that would restart your phone and once booted, you now have a new kernel.
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Thanks for all the replies- sorry for further asking. Suppose I want to get back to GB from present ICS stock with Speedmod kernel can I use Mobile Odin right away to flash any stock GB? Or go the PC odin route? Which is safer?
I am running stock 4.0.4 with hydracore kernel.
I am getting the OTA update but cannot install.
how can i get back to the stock kernel without flashing the stock rom via pc odin ?
You got 2 options...
1. Download the stock ROM on your PC and extract the kernel (zImage) and flash it after
2. Download Chainfire's stock CF-Root kernel from this link- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1331784 and find the kernel that matches your ROM (on your region.
nokiamodeln91 said:
I am running stock 4.0.4 with hydracore kernel.
I am getting the OTA update but cannot install.
how can i get back to the stock kernel without flashing the stock rom via pc odin ?
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Download stock kernel for your rom from here and then flash using mobile odin or K-tools. I have done it many times using mobile odin and it even retains root.
But there is still no guarantee of OTA, I was on stock LR6 with stock kernel with mods and OTA failed everytime, now flashed GB and updating to LR6 via kies to use OTA.
letters_to_cleo said:
You got 2 options...
1. Download the stock ROM on your PC and extract the kernel (zImage) and flash it after
2. Download Chainfire's stock CF-Root kernel from this link- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1331784 and find the kernel that matches your ROM (on your region.
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Hi,
i have the tar.md5 file on my pc.. i opened it with 7zip and i see the zimage. do i flash it in the pda tab? will it increase counter
nokiamodeln91 said:
Hi,
i have the tar.md5 file on my pc.. i opened it with 7zip and i see the zimage. do i flash it in the pda tab? will it increase counter
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or can i flash the zimage from mobile odin?
Most often it will.. since your using PC Odin.. but there's nothing impossible as long as you root your phone back and use ChainFire's TriangleAway app to remove the counter back to 0.
EDIT: Yes, MOdin can flash Zimage as well.. try to look for some of the answers here as well -->>http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1713289
Flashing anything which is stock should not raise custom count, same way as flashing stock firmware using pc odin doesn't. but why take chances when you can flash it using mobile odin or K-tools easily.
I even once flashed stock kernel using Doomlord's tool (used in CF root kernels to root and flash , it didn't raise the custom count.
Just put zimage on root of SD and flash by MO or ktools, easy. Modin can handle zimage and tar both.
jeetu1981 said:
Download stock kernel for your rom from here and then flash using mobile odin or K-tools. I have done it many times using mobile odin and it even retains root.
But there is still no guarantee of OTA, I was on stock LR6 with stock kernel with mods and OTA failed everytime, now flashed GB and updating to LR6 via kies to use OTA.
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I used mobile odin and used the tar.md5 in kernel... flashed and it wen back to the stock kernel but the OTA still failed... then did a restore of complete rom from odin.. sacrificed root and mods.. but finally the OTA installed and happy that i did.. love the new launcher
nokiamodeln91 said:
I used mobile odin and used the tar.md5 in kernel... flashed and it wen back to the stock kernel but the OTA still failed... then did a restore of complete rom from odin.. sacrificed root and mods.. but finally the OTA installed and happy that i did.. love the new launcher
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Yes, that's why I said no guarantee of OTA even after flashing stock kernel, I was on stock kernel already and never flashed custom but still had to flash GB from odin for OTA
I already have a custom rom installed but I'm going to sell my Note... So I want to make it official but rooted...
I cant find any thread for it. A near official rom I found is CleaNote rom but I want a fully offcial rom like on Samfirmware but rooted.
I dont want to download via samfirmware because then I will have to though whole process of rooting again and then triangle removing mod etc...
its just a one step method for rooting ics these days.
Download the rom of your choice
download philz kernel as per rom
boot into recovery
install zip
done
you have root, and cwm and safe kernel
No triangle, no counter
There is a prerooted gb rom but i dont think there is a prerooted ics cause its not safe to stay stock after you get rooted
So as nokiamodeln91 said,download a stock ics rom and flash philz kernel
Thanks guys!
I hv downloaded the Stock rom from Samfirmware in ZIP format... As my phone is rooted, can I use mobile ODIN to flash that zip and Philz Kernel OR should I use cwm recovery to flash both.... (Im asking ths bec what if the phone reboots immediately after installing rom via cwm.... it wont gimme a chance to install philz after rebooting because stock rom also installs stock kernel)
Use pc odin to install the stock rom and then philz from recovery... Or u can use mobile odin aslo. If u already rooted, mobile odin may give the option to inject su, and u may have root as well after the rom install.
cwm u can't flash stock
You cant use cwm to flash a stock rom
You can use either pc odin or mobile odin to do so
I have read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-s2-international-all-things-root/578800-what-emmc-brickbug.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1693704
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644364
My question: I have a SGN infected with the eMMC bug, and I want to upgrade it to the latest stock ROM. I know very little about flashing, and I know there are some risks when doing some things. I would like to know if the first link is safe for me, and which ROM I should use of the ones listed there (I live in The Netherlands). Do you guys have any tips or some guides made for the noobs among us?
that 1st link is the safest and best.
download the rom of. your choice. It. doesn't need to be of. your region. although you can check the latest firmware on www.samfirmware.com....
Once downloaded, use pc odin with the downloaded rom tar.md5 file selected in the pda tab. The connect the phone to pc in download mode and press start.
If you are upgrading to ics, then do not do any wipes, first flash a safe kernel...
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nokiamodeln91 said:
that 1st link is the safest and best.
download the rom of. your choice. It. doesn't need to be of. your region. although you can check the latest firmware on www.samfirmware.com....
Once downloaded, use pc odin with the downloaded rom tar.md5 file selected in the pda tab. The connect the phone to pc in download mode and press start.
If you are upgrading to ics, then do not do any wipes, first flash a safe kernel...
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by the way what's with nokiamodeln91 username.. hahahahaha.. you are in samsung thread.. hahahahaha.. but nice one man.. great help... keep it
nokiamodeln91 said:
that 1st link is the safest and best.
download the rom of. your choice. It. doesn't need to be of. your region. although you can check the latest firmware on LINK ....
Once downloaded, use pc odin with the downloaded rom tar.md5 file selected in the pda tab. The connect the phone to pc in download mode and press start.
If you are upgrading to ics, then do not do any wipes, first flash a safe kernel...
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Thanks for replying. Good to know that that thread is safe, but what do you mean by flashing a safe kernel? Those terms mean nothing to me.
theres two way to flash ROM. 1 is using PC ODIN and the other one is CWM
Flashing Via PC ODIN .. you need to have two thing.. The Rom You Want to flash and the PC-ODIN software
Flashing Via CWM.. you need two things. You need to root your phone and you need to install CWM.
every rom comes with modem, kernel (the file that govern how to handle your phone cpu), csc... the kernel inside ics is known to have brickbug
theres no need to flash kernel if you are flashing Rom via PC ODIN... Flashing kernel is when you are using CWM....
mistajoe83 said:
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by the way what's with nokiamodeln91 username.. hahahahaha.. you are in samsung thread.. hahahahaha.. but nice one man.. great help... keep it
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tried a few usernames dint work. tried the Samsung too, na.. then nokia to the rescue.
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mistajoe83 said:
theres two way to flash ROM. 1 is using PC ODIN and the other one is CWM
Flashing Via PC ODIN .. you need to have two thing.. The Rom You Want to flash and the PC-ODIN software
Flashing Via CWM.. you need two things. You need to root your phone and you need to install CWM.
every rom comes with modem, kernel (the file that govern how to handle your phone cpu), csc... the kernel inside ics is known to have brickbug
theres no need to flash kernel if you are flashing Rom via PC ODIN... Flashing kernel is when you are using CWM....
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So, I can just flash any ROM using ODIN, and there will be no risk bricking my device?
If I flash a ROM, will I have a fresh install, and will my kernel also change so that I don't have the brickbug anymore?
hiddepolen said:
So, I can just flash any ROM using ODIN, and there will be no risk bricking my device?
If I flash a ROM, will I have a fresh install, and will my kernel also change so that I don't have the brickbug anymore?
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yes you can flash any ROM using ODIN safely without bricking your device.
yes you will have a fresh install. your kernel will change too. as for the brickbug....
If you flash via PC ODIN then everything is stock to what you flashed.the kernel the firmware the csc the modem..all as stock provided....
1.If you flash ICS via PC-ODIN then your kernel also would be stock ics kernel that has brickbug..
Warning :
Don't wipe anything from stock ICS recovery
Don't factory reset/Hard reset on stock ICS.
Don't flash any Wipe version of ICS ROM
let say you want to flash Latest JB Rom but you are on ICS stock.
first thing you need to do is root your device ...install CWM.. Flash safe kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
let say ive rooted... installed CWM with safe kernel...
what i always do is everytime i want to flash new rom whatever rom it is...i flash Speedmod 3-15 (safe kernel) and go to Advance>reboot recovery and flash any rom i want so that im on the safe side without worrying what kernel im on.
2.If you flash GB than your kernel will be GB kernel which is safe to wipe..
if you want to flash custom rom from gb then you root your device and installed CWM and Flash since GB kernel is safe.
but.. let say u flashed ICS and wanted to go back to GB. then you are not safe anymore,,, that is why i always flashed Speedmod kernel 3-15 (safe kernel) and reboot recovery (by going to advance>rebootrecovery) and flashed any rom... that way im always sure that im in safe kernel when flashing Rom
mistajoe83 said:
yes you will have a fresh install. your kernel will change too. as for the brickbug....
If you flash via PC ODIN then everything is stock..If you flash ICS via PC-ODIN then your kernel also would be stock ics kernel that has brickbug.. if you flash GB than your kernel will be GB kernel which is safe to wipe..
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Thanks so much, you are an incredible help. Slowly, I begin to understand everything !
hiddepolen said:
I have read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-s2-international-all-things-root/578800-what-emmc-brickbug.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1693704
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644364
My question: I have a SGN infected with the eMMC bug, and I want to upgrade it to the latest stock ROM. I know very little about flashing, and I know there are some risks when doing some things. I would like to know if the first link is safe for me, and which ROM I should use of the ones listed there (I live in The Netherlands). Do you guys have any tips or some guides made for the noobs among us?
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You can download any stock rom you want from searching it on the forum then you can flash it through ODIN using your computer
do i understand that right, that i can root my stock gingerbread by flashing this cwm/philz kernel, without the need to wipe any data?
i just want to flash ultimate rom. it says i need cwm. i don't fully understand why cwm comes together with a kernel and why that kernel gives root on any rom. how to root topic doesn't mention the flashing of just a kernel to get root. i guess i got something wrong here?
baseband XXLA4 - GB 2.3.6
You cannot flash PhilZ kernel on a GB Rom. It wouldn't boot up if you did.
anloid said:
#sry wrong forum.. move please?#
do i understand that right, that i can root my stock gingerbread by flashing this cwm/philz kernel, without the need to wipe any data?
i just want to flash ultimate rom. it says i need cwm. i don't fully understand why cwm comes together with a kernel and why that kernel gives root on any rom. how to root topic doesn't mention the flashing of just a kernel to get root. i guess i got something wrong here?
baseband XXLA4 - GB 2.3.6
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for the Note the kernel and recovery are integrated, each kernel has a corresponding cwm recovery and root features too
so when you want to root a rom you have to flash a suitable kernel which will give it a cwm recovery to flash custom roms from and it will also give root features too.
Phillz kernels root stock ICS Touchwizz roms when flashed from stock recovery. after a complete reboot you can safely wipe from recovery and flash custom roms.
BTW - this thread belongs to the QA forum.
chasmodo said:
You cannot flash PhilZ kernel on a GB Rom. It wouldn't boot up if you did.
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but would let me use cwm to backup and flash another rom?
You can't flash ANYTHING from stock 3e GB recovery. It won't pass signature verification.
(Unlike ICS). You need to root it first, then use an app such as mobile odin to flash a kernel which has CWM recovery.
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Edit: to root GB without going through Dr. Ketans long winded process, just download Chainfires exynos app from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35512626 click on it, and select root device
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unfort my kernel is not bugged. can i flash a bugged kernel?
i think i understood that i need to use odin to flash on a GB device? if so, i hope i can directly flash ultimate custom rom using odin?
1. Root Gb
2. Install Mobile Odin
3.Flash Cf-Root or Abyss (both are GB with CWM recovery)
4.Boot into recovery, do wipes and flash new ROM.
NOTE: custom roms can't be flashed with Odin.
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non rootable room ^^
Use the exnos abuse app to root.
Hey can i flash philz on 2.3.6 (rooted) format and install a JB rom?
Yes