Hello people of xda.....
I'm thinking of making a custom back for the nexus 7 that would remove lots of heat
what it would do is snap on where the old back went and would have
the back, printed on a 3d printer accurate to 2/100"
A 1 1/4" fan from radioshack
a rechargeable 9v battery
a switch for the fan
possible power and volume buttons
this case would be used for those of us who extreme overclock ex running at 1.6ghz with the gpu at 520 who want to rid of some heat.
WHAT THIS CASE WOULD NOT HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wifi antenna
gps antenna
bluetooth antenna
Let me know if you would like to get in on this
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jombo2323 said:
Hello people of xda.....
I'm thinking of making a custom back for the nexus 7 that would remove lots of heat
what it would do is snap on where the old back went and would have
the back, printed on a 3d printer accurate to 2/100"
A 1 1/4" fan from radioshack
a rechargeable 9v battery
a switch for the fan
possible power and volume buttons
this case would be used for those of us who extreme overclock ex running at 1.6ghz with the gpu at 520 who want to rid of some heat.
WHAT THIS CASE WOULD NOT HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wifi antenna
gps antenna
bluetooth antenna
Let me know if you would like to get in on this
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Why not to that extreme, what about a slimmer back with USB OTG built in and a slot for the USB, where u insert a small one and can cover it.
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tandeh said:
Why not to that extreme, what about a slimmer back with USB OTG built in and a slot for the USB, where u insert a small one and can cover it.
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Wow, thats a good idea, but it would have to go over the top a little in order to plug the connector in.
A USB OTG built in case, with a cooling system?! Count me in!
Count me in as well!
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what would you pay for something like this? it would be like 15$ for materials (Battery and fan and switch) plus an unknown amount for the otg cable that works.
Really hate to do this to you guys but I'm afraid it's already been done!
yes indeed for the low low price of $999999.99.99 you to can be the proud owner of the first true convergent nexus seven
features include
500gb extra storage space*
heatsink and fan*
multi card reader*
usb hub*
otg*
calling and texting*
shoot photos and video*
all the features that you know and love from the nexus 7*
all hooked up and ready to go*
* cables not included, *card reader not included, *usb hub not included, *nexus 7 not included, *hhd not included, *camera not included *nokia not included *otg cable not included *heatsink and fan not included *assembly not included nor the superglue required
Buy now to avoid disappointment!*
*disappointment included
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Really hate to do this to you guys but I'm afraid it's already been done!
yes indeed for the low low price of $999999.99.99 you to can be the proud owner of the first true convergent nexus seven
features include
500gb extra storage space*
heatsink and fan*
multi card reader*
usb hub*
otg*
calling and texting*
shoot photos and video*
all the features that you know and love from the nexus 7*
all hooked up and ready to go*
* cables not included, *card reader not included, *usb hub not included, *nexus 7 not included, *hhd not included, *camera not included *nokia not included *otg cable not included *heatsink and fan not included *assembly not included nor the superglue required
Buy now to avoid disappointment!*
*disappointment included
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you almost made me **** my pants laughing.
but seriously, who would pay for one?
ajpettit said:
Really hate to do this to you guys but I'm afraid it's already been done!
yes indeed for the low low price of $999999.99.99 you to can be the proud owner of the first true convergent nexus seven
features include
500gb extra storage space*
heatsink and fan*
multi card reader*
usb hub*
otg*
calling and texting*
shoot photos and video*
all the features that you know and love from the nexus 7*
all hooked up and ready to go*
* cables not included, *card reader not included, *usb hub not included, *nexus 7 not included, *hhd not included, *camera not included *nokia not included *otg cable not included *heatsink and fan not included *assembly not included nor the superglue required
Buy now to avoid disappointment!*
*disappointment included
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I'm sorry, but I have the 8gb, coming from the Acer A500, and this is exactly how I feel right now, :/ I filled my storage up with nothing but apps, and still wanna get some more apps, and not a rear camera, ugh.
Brandonxcore said:
I'm sorry, but I have the 8gb, coming from the Acer A500, and this is exactly how I feel right now, :/ I filled my storage up with nothing but apps, and still wanna get some more apps, and not a rear camera, ugh.
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uh, you are aware hes not advertising what im talking about right?
im making a cover/caseish thing hes just bein funny XD
jombo2323 said:
uh, you are aware hes not advertising what im talking about right?
im making a cover/caseish thing hes just bein funny XD
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Sorry to go off topic, haha, anyways, my tablet doesn't get hot, I think the best thing for you to do is just add more copper to the existing heat sink, airflow will only drag dust into the tablet.
Just went and grabbed my hefty set of dial calipers! time to start modeling!
And also, i might put a small and thin filter (very small pores) inbetween the case and the fan but i think as long as you dont kick it under the fridge while the fan is on i think it would be all right
in order to hold onto the tablet without copying googles latches..... im afraid to say that
the back will have to come above the edge of the tablet and snap over the top just a little hopefully though. should solve the not level with the bezel screen issue that is stock. win win
EDIT* Facepalm, my calipers dont go above 6in how did i not see that coming....
how to measure corner Radius anyone?
Bumpity
Can someone find me a small, compatible usb otg cable that i can put in here and mount?
jombo2323 said:
Just went and grabbed my hefty set of dial calipers! time to start modeling!
And also, i might put a small and thin filter (very small pores) inbetween the case and the fan but i think as long as you dont kick it under the fridge while the fan is on i think it would be all right
in order to hold onto the tablet without copying googles latches..... im afraid to say that
the back will have to come above the edge of the tablet and snap over the top just a little hopefully though. should solve the not level with the bezel screen issue that is stock. win win
EDIT* Facepalm, my calipers dont go above 6in how did i not see that coming....
how to measure corner Radius anyone?
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You can try to get official/accurate specs from Asus or from a case manufacturer.
veeman said:
You can try to get official/accurate specs from Asus or from a case manufacturer.
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in my dreams.
anyways i just made a shell of what the case should look like for it to fit inside
now time to add vents and the fan mount area!
Just an update for some people....
a standard rechargeable 9v battery would run the fan for about an hour and a half
if i put 2 in there, it would make it balanced and give about 3 to 3.5 hours of fan life (about what you get with a fully overclocked kernel)
so what will it be, 1 or 2?
if you used non rechargeable 9v's you would get about 5.5 hours of fan life, 2 would get you 11 which would be good
So more development has happened
got the case "complete" afak until i can print a prototype which is a week or so
i know its a bit thick, but what do you want from 2 9v's and a fan?
i hope some of you will get excited about how development is actually happening\
Tell me whatcha think!
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that is amazing... lol
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jombo2323 said:
So more development has happened
got the case "complete" afak until i can print a prototype which is a week or so
link to a picture http://puu.sh/V7KP
i know its a bit thick, but what do you want from 2 9v's and a fan?
i hope some of you will get excited about how development is actually happening\
Tell me whatcha think!
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This does look quite nice I do kinda like the ability to use NFC though and have an overall lightweight device, but perhaps something like this would be nice on a stand instead? Then I can put my N7 on the stand, do some benchmarking, games, whatever else I want, and then when I want to travel, I simply take the back off and go back stock.
jombo2323 said:
i hope some of you will get excited about how development is actually happening\
Tell me whatcha think!
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Honestly? I think you're wasting your time and everyone else's. No-one is going to buy something like that to cool a gadget that doesn't even get hot in a case, which brings up another point, where would you find a case to fit your souped up N7 afterwards?
There has to be a more worthy project for you to spend your time and money on.
Troute said:
Honestly? I think you're wasting your time and everyone else's. No-one is going to buy something like that to cool a gadget that doesn't even get hot in a case, which brings up another point, where would you find a case to fit your souped up N7 afterwards?
There has to be a more worthy project for you to spend your time and money on.
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A lot of people here flash custom kernels to overclock their CPU to 1.64 GHz. In this instance, the device can get noticeably hotter after heavy usage...so this case will serve a purpose for some. Also, I believe the OP plans on integrating an inbuilt OTG mount, who wouldn't want that?!
Why don't you put a radiator, pump, and reservoir for kicks? A water-cooled tablet would be crazy badass!
Pardon the sarcasm. I believe people will be more interested in a built-in usb hub. Slap in a micro sd card reader in one port and 3 fullsize female usb in the other (for keyboard, mouse, portable drive, sixaxis controller, etc.). No more lack of sd card slot problem. Of course it will need a little tweak by swapping the mount points of the internal and the external sdcards, but it is doable.
If you want, instead of a micro sd, you can go for a multi card reader so the users will have options. Pictures or videos in the storage card can be viewed, edited, saved, or emailed from their dslr's straight to the tablet for example. The possibilities are endless.
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UPDATE DECEMBER 16th 2012
We did it!!! Made 1.4Miles (2.25Kilometers) this morning on an unboosted Nexus 7 tablet antenna mod!!! SWEET!!!
UPDATE DECEMBER 8th 2012
We've now taken the Nexus 7 WiFi range out to 4550ft (1372meters) closing in on one mile... Should be soon
Here's the vid of the world record flight with AR.Drone/Nexus 7 and itElite PRA24014 on December 8th
December 4th 2012 update
we've taken a giant leap in range and set an all out world record for the Parrot AR.Drone 2.0... We even beat the record set by the manufacturer...
Parrot teamed up with Alcatel-Lucent Technologies to create a drone controlled by 4G instead of WiFi and they set a mark of 1000meters...
So I took a long hard look at those numbers and contacted some WiFi experts discussing range and connectivity... Did some new modifications to my drone and tablet and came out on top, beating the Parrot/Alcatel record by roughly 82meters and beating the previous WiFi-only record by over 600meters (set by a consumer flyer in Hong Kong at 470meters)
My reason for posting here is to show the awesome Nexus 7 at it's best... None of this could have been done without the Nexus 7's unique features
Easy to crack open and shut without damage
Easy to tap into Nexus internal WiFi components
Easy to flash new ROM's and kernels to achieve smooth running control software
Perfect size and ample screen quality to fly outdoors and be able to see on screen controls
Here's the video of the world record flight on December 4th 2012
As of December 1st ... The Nexus 7 antenna mod holds the AR Drone 2.0 world distance record for WiFi controlled flight at 2,400ft (732 meters)
Just thought I'd leave this here and maybe get some Nexii love
I use my Nexus 7 to fly my WiFi Drone with onscreen HD video live feed...
The drawback has been the range... with the drones weak signal and the Nexus 7 tiny antenna I was limited to 100/150ft at best
So I came up with this... Ladies and gentlemen... the Nexus 7 FlightPad
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PremierTek 16dBi flat patch high gain directional WiFi antenna
This antenna setup increases my range by ten fold... now getting a thousand feet and more..
OK... I know... that antenna is huge... how bout a little smaller
Hawking 13dBi QuadPatch directional
How bout antenna and PS3 controller for flight control
Or just a simple multi polarized deal that will get full bars of WiFi internet anywhere in my house or yard from a cheap AT&T router
I know there will be haters for this setup because it ruins the flat back of the tablet making it less compact... but all this stuff just pops right off leaving the back "almost" flat... except for the PS3 controller slot mount at 1/8" thick... plus... I can jack open WiFi signals from over a mile away!!
Couple video examples of flight with the NexiiFlightPad
So anyways... go easy on me XDA... I'm 45yrs old but my mom didn't buy me the cool toys when I was a kid... so I'm overcompensating :-/
The external antenna is soldered to the motherboard antenna spring pins and the OEM WiFi antenna has been removed to eliminate interference... yes, I drilled holes in the back cover and even used epoxy and screws to attach the PS3 controller mount... but I have a spare back cover in case I want to return it to stock condition
Antenna solder points:
One word. Awesome!
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Thanks tkolev... I'm hoping I don't get stomped in here for the sacrilege of desecrating the OEM goodness of the stock Nexus 7... truly a wonderful device
b00mb00mchuck said:
Thanks tkolev... I'm hoping I don't get stomped in here for the sacrilege of desecrating the OEM goodness of the stock Nexus 7... truly a wonderful device
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I really doubt that anyone here will do that. You found a way to make your device fit your needs and this deserves nothing else but admiration. Our devices are tools, not some fashion toys.
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Very nice!
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I'm curious why you're using narrow-beam ant for your drone. Those panel types usually have a 30-deg beamwidth, and are for point-to-point uses. Actually, a hi-gain omni probably wouldn't work either, since it has a "flat" beamwidth. Maybe something like the below, a 9dBi panel ant w/ 60-deg beamwidth for easy aiming. The compact 5"x5" can be mounted on the tablet with a clip mount.
http://www.wpsantennas.com/id2450-r...zwhisperdirectionalindoorantennacaf94601.aspx
That's pretty sweet. I would love to add an external antenna to my (planned) car install. Having zero soldering skills, I don't know if I'm brave enough.
e.mote said:
I'm curious why you're using narrow-beam ant for your drone. Those panel types usually have a 30-deg beamwidth, and are for point-to-point uses. Actually, a hi-gain omni probably wouldn't work either, since it has a "flat" beamwidth. Maybe something like the below, a 9dBi panel ant w/ 60-deg beamwidth for easy aiming. The compact 5"x5" can be mounted on the tablet with a clip mount.
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I guess the answer would have to be trial and error + results...
I've racked up quite a few different antenna styles while experimenting... these are just a few
Omni antennas came first because I had them lying around and they did wonderfully compared to the stock internal antenna... but then I ended up with one of those 5"x 5" patch antennas (center) and saw the advantage of directional (narrow beam , point to point... just point it at the drone) ... so I scrounged around and settled with the 7"x 7" because it gave the best range... to me, 30° beam width is big... by the time you get 100/150 yards away the error cone is huge... pointing my nexus in the general direction of the drone seems to come naturally so it's never an issue
Of course it's not the antenna I use when I'm browsing XDA on WiFi like the post I'm making right now from the little 5dBi omni (second from the right).... small and light and doesn't get in the way...
All comes down to single user preference... would be silly to market something this way because there's particular rules to follow to get the best results with that particular antenna... but it suits my style and requirements the best... I'm even thinking about going up a notch to an 18dBi patch that only has 20° beam width... just to see how far I can actually fly this thing
Oh my ****. Cool!
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lithium630 said:
That's pretty sweet. I would love to add an external antenna to my (planned) car install. Having zero soldering skills, I don't know if I'm brave enough.
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That was my fear... I went at this with sketchy soldering skills also... but I watched some YouTube videos... and practiced a little and boom... came out just fine
This is incredibly amazing. Now... where is the step by step mod guide with pics?
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Yes! Another hardware hacker who's not afraid to 'play' with his toys.
I watched the videos and kept an eye on the battery gauge of the AR Drone. When you crank up the speed, it really sucks down the battery quickly.
Where did you get the main bracket?
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Very cool hacking.
Funny how you can watch the battery dropping when you sped it up
bigbop said:
Yes! Another hardware hacker who's not afraid to 'play' with his toys.
I watched the videos and kept an eye on the battery gauge of the AR Drone. When you crank up the speed, it really sucks down the battery quickly.
Where did you get the main bracket?
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The main antenna bracket is a hacked up Motorola Droid Bionic windshield suction cup mount (car dock) with the suction cup removed, 4 holes drilled for the antenna connection, and some cutting and flattening for the tablet connection with epoxy and small screws...
The battery drain is partly from more aggressive flying and partly because I sped up certain parts of the video edit to keep it more interesting... that was actually a 17 minute flight compressed into 7 minutes of video without dropping any frames... just speeding up the slower moving, boring parts
That's some impressive customization there. Props
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This is incredibly amazing. Now... where is the step by step mod guide with pics?
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I could probly pull that off here pretty soon (this weekend?). I have a new SMA connector coming with thicker, low loss, RG174 cable... (the coax i got on there now sucks)... and I'm making a stronger SMA mount... I made the first one kind of like a kickstand to keep the tablet tilted when I set it down, but I keep feeling like I'm gonna break it off sooner or later
So yeah... I'll be sure to take pics... maybe video I guess? (Which would be better?)
I'm so jealous. I was just looking at the ardrone website a couple days ago and have been trying to think of how to tell my wife that I need it to function as a human being.
kieso said:
I'm so jealous. I was just looking at the ardrone website a couple days ago and have been trying to think of how to tell my wife that I need it to function as a human being.
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Google "ar drone flyaway" before you do that. The folks who make it still haven't figured out that "wifi connection loss" should mean "gentle descent" to the ground. Apparently it means "go off in some wild direction, sometimes gaining great altitudes".
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Google "ar drone flyaway" before you do that. The folks who make it still haven't figured out that "wifi connection loss" should mean "gentle descent" to the ground. Apparently it means "go off in some wild direction, sometimes gaining great altitudes".
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Not a problem for 99.99% of users... when mine loses WiFi connection it stops and locks on a target on the ground and hovers... giving me time to walk closer or aim my antenna better and reconnect... you really don't want it to auto land on a disconnect... what if it's over water or power lines or trees etc... the hover and wait feature works very well... the flyways are usually freezups in the onboard software getting hung up on the last command received ... or navigation board faults
but look at the numbers... with over a million units sold... and doing a YouTube search shows less than 30 flyaway videos... searching the drone forums with thousands of members, shows less than 30 or 40 posts talking about flyaways... and they're all old posts
With my friends and myself as a group we have over a dozen of these things and had one flyaway... Parrot warrantied that and sent a new unit... but that WiFi thing doesn't happen... they always just stop and hover and wait for you
kieso said:
I'm so jealous. I was just looking at the ardrone website a couple days ago and have been trying to think of how to tell my wife that I need it to function as a human being.
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My wife was way harder to deal with when I told her I needed the Nexus 7 more than air
And then she woke up one morning and saw me drilling holes in the cover and just about stabbed me with a back scratcher
But then she saw all the results and comments I get on the drone forums ... and she started thinking it was pretty cool
Then, all excited, she sent me this pic at work and I realized she was totally down with the DroneLife
My drone made the Parrot AR Drone Facebook page
What if you could add more storage to any Android device with a tiny adapter?
A MicroSD to Micro USB adapter. This indiegogo project aims to receive funding for the creation of a tiny adapter -- the worlds first of it's kind so you no longer have to worry about running out of space for your favourite videos, music or photos. All we need is your support to help fund the creation of this adapter.
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The adapter is so small it can happily sit with your keys as a keyring; store the whole of your favourite TV series, music collection and more in the palm of your hands.
Support the project and be the first to receive the adapter. If the project doesn't get funded, your receive a full refund, nothing to lose.
Lot of discussion at the Nexus 7 forums
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Just a random thought - they should make it bendable, so the card could be behind the tabet and only a small portion would be below the frame.
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Just a random thought - they should make it bendable, so the card could be behind the tabet and only a small portion would be below the frame.
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Making it Flexible is on the roadmap, we are planning on doing it, however, that requires more much testing, and the mechanicals of that are more much complex. we need the initial push to get the necessary funding to get the design FCC approved and compatibility test with as much devices as we can.
Contributed for $16.
This looks like it will be really great! Good luck!
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Making it Flexible is on the roadmap, we are planning on doing it, however, that requires more much testing, and the mechanicals of that are more much complex. we need the initial push to get the necessary funding to get the design FCC approved and compatibility test with as much devices as we can.
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Call me crazy, but wouldn't one be able to do that with wired extension leads? I don't know a whole lot but it seems fairly simple to this 16 year old.
Will this work? I know it's not micro sd though.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0051D3KMG/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
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Great Idea, I just sent you guys another $32 plus $10 for shipping. I hope you get enough support to complete this project.
cderrick14 said:
Great Idea, I just sent you guys another $32 plus $10 for shipping. I hope you get enough support to complete this project.
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Thank you for the support, We are having a really unexpected positive feedback about the project, specially internationally. We are on the right track, we just need some more support and spread out the word as much as we can. :good:
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Will this work? I know it's not micro sd though.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0051D3KMG/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
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No, it won't. It isn't for micro usb port. It works only with Samsung Galaxy Tab.
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Maturola said:
Thank you for the support, We are having a really unexpected positive feedback about the project, specially internationally. We are on the right track, we just need some more support and spread out the word as much as we can. :good:
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Yes, spread the word folks. I've tweeted, facebooked and google+'d the crap outta this and will continue to do so. I'm surprised you are only at the amount you are. It seems to me that this would be more popular.
Well I'll keep plugging this until every Android user i have contact with sees it.
groaner said:
Yes, spread the word folks. I've tweeted, facebooked and google+'d the crap outta this and will continue to do so. I'm surprised you are only at the amount you are. It seems to me that this would be more popular.
Well I'll keep plugging this until every Android user i have contact with sees it.
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Thanks, make sure to use your "custom" link to share, we are tracking referral, and if we are funded, the person with more referral will get a Nexus 7 32GB (More details at the website if interested).
We have a very large amount of visitors, many are interested but are holding up. Maybe to see if the project is going to get closer to its goal, or maybe they just want to wait for a more complete, retail ready from. I hope they realized that without the initial push we can't get there. All i can do is support, answer questions and spread the word as much as I can.
We have the Nexus 10 on order already, so we will be testing as soon as we get it. We are also prototyping a Build in storage option (A.K.A Micro USB Flash drive). :good:
So I already planned to do this with a microsd card adapter and an OTG cable for about half the price. That way I can connect a few devices at once too... Any reason I should spring for this instead?
manaox2 said:
So I already planned to do this with a microsd card adapter and an OTG cable for about half the price. That way I can connect a few devices at once too... Any reason I should spring for this instead?
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Hey Manaox,
Functional they are the same, depending on the quality of the OTG cable, speed should be the same (there are some cases reported that some really inexpensive OTG cables degrade the speed a bit), if you don't mind the size and having the "cable" hanging around, that is a perfect way to do it. that;s exactly what I did before I decide to design a better solution.
Personally, I hate that "tail" on my device, I rather have something smaller, that I can maybe have on my keyring or in a pocket on my case and i can easily plug and play. But there is nothing wrong with the OTG cable + MicroSD-USB adapter (or Flash drive).
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No, it won't. It isn't for micro usb port. It works only with Samsung Galaxy Tab.
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Shouldn't have tried to see that on my phone, thought it was micro usb.
Maturola said:
Making it Flexible is on the roadmap, we are planning on doing it, however, that requires more much testing, and the mechanicals of that are more much complex. we need the initial push to get the necessary funding to get the design FCC approved and compatibility test with as much devices as we can.
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What you really need to work on, besides keeping the size down, is some sort of clamp mechanism, as a strain-relief for the actual USB port (especially the pathetic shallow and sloppy port on the N7). Without that strain relief, expect to see a LOT of complaints about breaking the USB port.
Might also want to consider an "L" shape that runs along the edge rather than straight out. It'll be a bit trickier to manufacture but would make it far less prone to "snapping off" and it'll be less clunky looking if it doesn't protrude out as far.
Finally, if you're making it device specific for the N7, a ribbon cable (or hard cable) that does a 180 to the back would be ideal. The actual reader portion could mount in the middle of the speaker/Asus logo area. A few was to make this mounting work, from velcro to double-sided tape to semi-permanent plates mounted to the back with a clip or magnet, etc.
Actually, the more I think about it, a rigid cable sheath in the shape of a "C" would be ideal, if it was a tight fit (almost a clip) to the chassis. A lot of the torque that would be applied to the USB port would be absorbed/prevented by the reader portion resting snugly on the back.
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What you really need to work on, besides keeping the size down,
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There is a lot that need to be worked if you want a quality product. Durability, packaging, signal integrity manufacturability.. many more
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Finally, if you're making it device specific for the N7...
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We don;t want to make a Nexus 7 specific, we want to make it so it will work with as many android devices as possible, with or without a case (which doesn't allow to make flush to the edge)
I made myself one, much cheaper and easier, cost me about £3 total and 10 minutes to solder up.
See my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33978463
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I made myself one, much cheaper and easier, cost me about £3 total and 10 minutes to solder up.
See my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33978463
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Sweet! Looks easy!
great idea but here is something that will probably work fine. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1MR0ES0806
for $10 its worth a test
Leoisright said:
great idea but here is something that will probably work fine. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1MR0ES0806
for $10 its worth a test
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That will not fit on your Nexus 10, that is NOT a micro USB device...
EDIT: I stand corrected, I can see the MicroUSB on the side, besides the size, it should do the job. for that size of device I would much rather use a OTG cable, but it comes down to preferences
Ok so here is a lil mockup. For probably 95 percent of accessories its good enough. I just took a pair of calipers to mine and here we have it.
solidworks: http://www.mediafire.com/?b8mjj6k9fj9cjzo "NO LONGER AVAILABLE"
IGS file: http://www.mediafire.com/?r8cernk6dbhgdqs "NO LONGER AVAILABLE"
I'm putting toether a dock right now
my calipers are accurate to probably .001" add a few more thousandths for human error lol. I'd say you'd be pretty safe putting your tolerances to .003. My only part i'm not as accurate on is the radius's seeing as i don't have the tools to more accurately measure it. But for a dock they aren't that important. IF anyone has more accurate info for them i'd love to update the model!
UPDATE! 11/10/2012
-went ahead and added the micro usb and 3.5mm holes.
-fixed the lower bezel to more accurately mirror actual bezel.
-added edrawing file
IGS: http://www.mediafire.com/?rciaf7ow7gup2v1
Solidworks: http://www.mediafire.com/?q814l4pahd464n2
Edrawing: http://www.mediafire.com/?gnccuce7aeo1mu7
UPDATE! 11/17/2012
-added pogo pins (4.2 supports the pogo pins FINALLY!!!)
IGS: http://www.mediafire.com/?p7o5tk9o7nvsp1c
Solidworks: http://www.mediafire.com/?2scckh8a2um43fb
Edrawings: http://www.mediafire.com/?5fv5c7r52689by6
UPDATE! 12/12/12 (ha thats fancy)
.STL File: http://www.mediafire.com/?abltaid6t6lzws4
(also Check out "STL file viewer" in the app store, lets you view your models, very smooth, works great!)
*** Nexus Docks***
With the arrival of 4.2 from what the forums say, the new kernal now supports the pogo pins on bottom. So i threw together a lil simplistic rough of a dock im thinking of getting printed out. The second pitcure shows the pogo "channel" i modeled in, so that i can wire them in once they come from china I would love your feedback (touchups rounding edges and whatnot havn't been done yet, but any big design flaws or suggestions would be great)
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Ok so here is a lil mockup. For probably 95 percent of accessories its good enough. I just took a pair of calipers to mine and here we have it.
solidworks: http://www.mediafire.com/?b8mjj6k9fj9cjzo
IGS file: http://www.mediafire.com/?r8cernk6dbhgdqs
I'm putting toether a dock right now
my calipers are accurate to probably .001" add a few more thousandths for human error lol. I'd say you'd be pretty safe putting your tolerances to .003. My only part i'm not as accurate on is the radius's seeing as i don't have the tools to more accurately measure it. But for a dock they aren't that important. IF anyone has more accurate info for them i'd love to update the model!
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what brand of calipers are you using and are they digital or dial? just curious.
Just out of curiosity what material were you going to be making your dock out of? I was debating with myself on what materials I should use that are easy to manipulate since I do not have access to the likes of wood and/or metals to mould it to the shape I want.
Your model is pretty good but I spotted an error with it.
On your model, the lower part of the bezel is drafted outwards but on my Nexus 7, the lower part is drafted inwards.
If you could add the USB port and 3.5mm socket it would also be even better. )
Dave...
PS.. I used the IGS file.
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Ok so here is a lil mockup. For probably 95 percent of accessories its good enough. I just took a pair of calipers to mine and here we have it.
solidworks: http://www.mediafire.com/?b8mjj6k9fj9cjzo
IGS file: http://www.mediafire.com/?r8cernk6dbhgdqs
I'm putting toether a dock right now
my calipers are accurate to probably .001" add a few more thousandths for human error lol. I'd say you'd be pretty safe putting your tolerances to .003. My only part i'm not as accurate on is the radius's seeing as i don't have the tools to more accurately measure it. But for a dock they aren't that important. IF anyone has more accurate info for them i'd love to update the model!
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Well done.
Accidental thanks for the guy below you.
EDIT: Can't download without downloading installer because "non-validated" mediafire account.
Also, here is the link for eDrawings so anyone can look at it: http://www.edrawingsviewer.com/ed/download.htm
Lol, just skimming the thread title, I expected something with a maple leaf on it.
Ya I work developing orthopedic implants and at my office we have all sorts of fancy stuff, micrometers, optical comparitors, CMC machines. But thats there, and i am enjoying my weekend. But I bought an average 12" pair of calipers. Ya i actually colaberated a bit with one of my buddies on this to throw together a fast mockup, and the lower bezel was his, easy fix though. And ya i know i'm missing the ports. Two reasons they are there:
1. They would be next to no use trying to get their relative positioning accurate with a pair of calipers, thats a job for better tools i'll have to do later.
2. For my purposes of building a desktop dock, i didn't need anything but the outermost measurements, but once people work out the pogo pins i plan on wiring that into it as well
Also I was just going to put it through a 3d printer we have a the university i go to, and then finish it off with some fine sanding and high gloss black or something. I'll be sure to post the drafts i go through. Any and all constructive critism would be much appreciated, fresh eyes are always apppreciated.
Also I find CAD mockups to be in extremely short supply. I'd love for this to become a thread with some colaboration going on. If you make any improvements to my model, UPLOAD IT!!! Or just any ol thing pertaining to our beautiful device
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what brand of calipers are you using and are they digital or dial? just curious.
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digital! so much less hastle
eDrawings file please.
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eDrawings file please.
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Ahh good call, yessir right away.
I had a lil time today, so went ahead and updated a few things.
Would love to download and look at the update.
Still get the "The resource you are trying access belongs to an account that has not yet been validated"...
Sorry there ya go should work now
this is awesome...thanks for this! i'm trying to build a car mount and this will def help. it looks like with 4.2 we can now charge via pogo pins. any chance you're gonna update this with the pins modeled?
thanks,
ron
ronaldeang said:
this is awesome...thanks for this! i'm trying to build a car mount and this will def help. it looks like with 4.2 we can now charge via pogo pins. any chance you're gonna update this with the pins modeled?
thanks,
ron
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Ya I was just reading that thread and actually went ahead and bought a 10 pack of those pogo pins from eBay. This is exciting news if we Can get a functional slick dock in the works before Asus releases theirs. Ya ill model in the pogo holes in tomorrow for sure. I myself am working on a dock obviously and once I get it printed out on the 3d printer ill be able to make the fine tunes to things like the pogo pins and other holes that are all the toughest parts to model accurately (as far as true position is conacerned)
Again for all you other drafters post your stuff up, let's get the collaborating going!
ronaldeang said:
this is awesome...thanks for this! i'm trying to build a car mount and this will def help. it looks like with 4.2 we can now charge via pogo pins. any chance you're gonna update this with the pins modeled?
thanks,
ron
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There ya are, pogo pins included
you're the man...thanks!
Open Format?
Is it possible to get those files in an open format (i.e. which can be imported into blender)?
PS: Great work
I know only a small bit of blender, you mean like. Obj or. Stl? I tried using 3d scan to export as those formats and it was giving me grief, do you know of an easier way I'd be happy to.
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I know only a small bit of blender, you mean like. Obj or. Stl? I tried using 3d scan to export as those formats and it was giving me grief, do you know of an easier way I'd be happy to.
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I found this guide via google: wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:2.4/Tutorials/Render/Import/SolidWorks
I run Linux and am therefor not able to try it via solidworks myself...
what programm did you use to create those modells ?
What i want is a keyboard dock like the transformers. The problem is our little tablet inst big enough for a comfortable keyboard. So one of you wonderful manufacturer's need to make this happen. Expand the keyboard size to a decent comfortable level and add external speakers to the sides of the slot that the nexus 7 slides into. That way the keyboard can be much bigger without looking silly.
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Edit: I do realize that my op seems to focus on the keyboard, i dont know why i wrote it the way i did. The reason i mentioned the transformers dock was the external battery and not having to connect a device via bluetooth every time i went to use it. And for some reason i made the speakers seem like they would just be there to take up space when in reality what i ment was i actually want them there.
This would be so cool! If someone could mod a laptop keyboard to fit a N7 I'd buy it.
Search eBay or Amazon man, they're full of keyboard cases from faux leather ones to full up metal ones.
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Those are nothing like what i described. Not even close.
It's a full keyboard via micro usb or bluetooh that you can slide/click it into (since you really can't truly 'dock' it into anything since the plug is on the bottom and would have to be in portrait orientation to be truly docked), so it's realistically the closest you can get for the time being. Just trying to help out and give alternatives man.
Pogo pins. Hence the title pogo keyboard dock and the op saying like the transformer dock. Extended battery/keyboard + speakers. I don't know why you think a tablet with pogo pins that already has a dock with external speaker Jack that uses the pogo pins can't actually be docked to something.
I think the best thing to do would be to wait for i/o in May and see what the new N7 will be like (Is it gonna have pogo pins too) and then from there someone can make a kickstarter for this. I for one would be interested in getting one if it was availible.
I'd be all over a kick starter for this.
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Pogo pins. Hence the title pogo keyboard dock and the op saying like the transformer dock. Extended battery/keyboard + speakers. I don't know why you think a tablet with pogo pins that already has a dock with external speaker Jack that uses the pogo pins can't actually be docked to something.
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His post is more useful than this worthless thread.... He was trying to help.
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I'd be all over a kick starter for this.
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Kickstarter is the biggest scam. No rules or regulations, no guarantee.
I hope this doesn't ever get built.... Want something like the transformer dock keyboard.... Go get a transformer.
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I don't see what the problem is with using a case/Bluetooth connection and some sort of NFC tag maybe.
The keyboard cases are actually pretty awesome. There is an awesome clamshell keyboard case that matches the N7's completely... so when closed it looks like to N7s screen to screen.
I don't think the pogo allows this kind of connection to use with a keyboard. It provides power and the other is just to tell the N7 it is docked. Most pogo docks basically just enable Bluetooth when docked and stream music/connect that way.
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I dont have a problem with the bluetooth keyboard cases. I even ordered one before i posted this.
The reason i want something more like what i posted above is for the external speakers (i know that can be done because the actual nexus 7 dock has audio out) and for the external battery power. The keyboard is actually the part that i want the least.
In all actuality the keyboard could be gone completely and just a case with external battery and speakers would be perfectly fine for me, though the keyboard would be a plus.
Edit: I do realize that my op seems to focus on the keyboard, i dont know why i wrote it the way i did. The reason i mentioned the transformers dock was the external battery and not having to connect a device via bluetooth every time i went to use it. And for some reason i made the speakers seem like they would just be there to take up space when in reality what i ment was i actually want them there.
Edit: Edit: @krash183 lets try to keep our panties un-whirled.
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I dont have a problem with the bluetooth keyboard cases. I even ordered one before i posted this.
The reason i want something more like what i posted above is for the external speakers (i know that can be done because the actual nexus 7 dock has audio out) and for the external battery power. The keyboard is actually the part that i want the least.
In all actuality the keyboard could be gone completely and just a case with external battery and speakers would be perfectly fine for me, though the keyboard would be a plus.
Edit: I do realize that my op seems to focus on the keyboard, i dont know why i wrote it the way i did. The reason i mentioned the transformers dock was the external battery and not having to connect a device via bluetooth every time i went to use it. And for some reason i made the speakers seem like they would just be there to take up space when in reality what i ment was i actually want them there.
Edit: Edit: @krash183 lets try to keep our panties un-whirled.
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Edit: let's try to not sound like a prick when people are trying to be helpful
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Nothing I said was aggressive. What he talked about had nothing to do with what I was talking about. And I don't pick and choose how i word my replies based on whether or not a keyboard warrior will come and miss read it.
Might I suggest switching to Downey?
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Nothing I said was aggressive. What he talked about had nothing to do with what I was talking about. And I don't pick and choose how i word my replies based on whether or not a keyboard warrior will come and miss read it.
Might I suggest switching to Downey?
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And a keyboard thats not possible to be made has no business in being in this forum. Like it was stated before... Want a transformer dock... Go buy a transformer
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Again it can be made (we have the pogo pins) It just hasn't been yet. And I don't want a transformer dock a want a nexus 7 dock similar to the transformer dock minus the track pad plus external speakers.
If the Downy doesn't work for you try sun drying with light tumble and a snuggles sheet.
Keyboard dock like this would be pretty cool; it would finally allow me to only use my N7 for school instead of it and my iPad
On a side note, there's always some asshole(s) that come into every thread, best to just ignore them.
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Again it can be made (we have the pogo pins) It just hasn't been yet. And I don't want a transformer dock a want a nexus 7 dock similar to the transformer dock minus the track pad plus external speakers.
If the Downy doesn't work for you try sun drying with light tumble and a snuggles sheet.
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It's not possible... Find out what the pogo pins can do... Try again.
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Accept it is. And you don't know what your talking about.
I've heard that rubbing a dryer sheet over woollen fabric can help stem static cling.
While it can't be made the way the OP imagined, it would be possible to use pogo for power (and sound?) and have an app on the phone that tries to connect to a bluetooth keyboard whenever it is docked...
The existing fake-aluminum keyboard is quite nice, though. I know the OP was more interested in a speaker than a keyboard, but for me it is the opposite. I doubt this will be made, but it isn't impossible.
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While it can't be made the way the OP imagined, it would be possible to use pogo for power (and sound?) and have an app on the phone that tries to connect to a bluetooth keyboard whenever it is docked...
The existing fake-aluminum keyboard is quite nice, though. I know the OP was more interested in a speaker than a keyboard, but for me it is the opposite. I doubt this will be made, but it isn't impossible.
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Power and sound is exactly how I imagined it. I didn't know if the keyboard could be connected any way other than Bluetooth. But power and sound can for use the pogo pins.
Ok so I am not a great designer by any means, but I do have a 3D printer and I am willing to donate as much plastic as needed to get something nice going. So here is the deal... I ordered two G2s and now I need stands for them and I figured I would put it to use. I've made simple universal ones to start like the ones below. Please excuse the crappy quality, the camera on my previous phone was horrible. Will be nice to go from 5MP to 13MP
I know a lot of them suck, most of these were within the first week or two of having the printer. I have since learned you NEED a heated bed to do any decent printing with ABS and have upgraded. Anyways, these were just universal ones I could give away when I was done with them. I can also vapor bath them and smooth them out real nice. If you got a drawing lmk, I want to see what we can get going. I'll update soon after I have a bit to play with it.
What program do you use to print them out? Back when I was in school I used solidworks to make some cool stuff with a 3D printer, I wouldn't mind trying to make something and sending you the file to try out.
Just let me know what program I need to use
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What program do you use to print them out? Back when I was in school I used solidworks to make some cool stuff with a 3D printer, I wouldn't mind trying to make something and sending you the file to try out.
Just let me know what program I need to use
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I was using sketchup for some and tinkercad for the others. I have autocad I just havent had the time to learn it with my new job. Pretty much any program that can output an STL file should be fine. I can do the rest from there. I'll slice it and add support if needed.
Edit: I forgot to say my boss is supposed to get a very expensive 3D printer this xmas too. He was thinking of getting of those Zcorp ones or the UV ones. We need a big platform, like 18x12" or so. I'll most likely have access to it when he gets it. At the very least he will get a makerbot or something close. I'll make good use of it
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I was using sketchup for some and tinkercad for the others. I have autocad I just havent had the time to learn it with my new job. Pretty much any program that can output an STL file should be fine. I can do the rest from there. I'll slice it and add support if needed.
Edit: I forgot to say my boss is supposed to get a very expensive 3D printer this xmas too. He was thinking of getting of those Zcorp ones or the UV ones. We need a big platform, like 18x12" or so. I'll most likely have access to it when he gets it. At the very least he will get a makerbot or something close. I'll make good use of it
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Awesome, I'm good with sketchup as well! Do you just want a basic stand or do you want me to try to make one that holds it and has slots for aux and charger ports??
Also, I'll make it thick enough to at least support a slim case.
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who MIKE D said:
Awesome, I'm good with sketchup as well! Do you just want a basic stand or do you want me to try to make one that holds it and has slots for aux and charger ports??
Also, I'll make it thick enough to at least support a slim case.
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I need to get a tripod mount going first. I use my phone for work a lot and my old tripod mount barely fit my 4" phone lol After that I want to make something like this: Stump Portable stand on Amazon for us. You my friend can add what you wish to the stand, I'll be working with you on details. I'll give you some details on the printer so you can adjust for the extrusion.
Solidoodle 2
.1mm resolution
1.75mm ABS (will most likely use PLA for the bigger ones)
.35mm nozzle (actual extrusion after cooldown is approximately .41-.42mm)
150x150x150mm build volume (two parts can be designed to fit together, no biggie here)
Colors: ABS- Glow in the Dark PLA- Silver
Once we get some good ones going I'll clean them up real nice and vapor bath them and make sure to send you some I already need to make a easy video on how to vapor bath parts for $25 bucks, might as well post it here too.
Hmm, that stand looks like it would just tip right over. I read the description and its made out of rubber. Also, you will need to get all 3 angles down just right for it to work so it's gonna be tricky lol
Edit: Here's my first go at it (I just made a basic one, not the stump one)
And by no means am i a designer lol
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Hmm, that stand looks like it would just tip right over. I read the description and its made out of rubber. Also, you will need to get all 3 angles down just right for it to work so it's gonna be tricky lol
Edit: Here's my first go at it (I just made a basic one, not the stump one)
And by no means am i a designer lol
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Upload it to devhost, I'll start it up now and see what I can do. Also, do you use hangouts or skype? I could also dropbox pictures if possible.
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Upload it to devhost, I'll start it up now and see what I can do. Also, do you use hangouts or skype? I could also dropbox pictures if possible.
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Here's another one i just made
Im gonna throw the sketchup file in dropbox, it has like 4 test models in it. Feel free to mess with them
Also i use hangout, I'll PM you my gmail and the download link
I just wanted to let you guys know this is already being printed I was supposed to get my device on Tuesday, but it seems I am on the back order list now and wont receive it until Wednesday-Thursday. Either way, I have already ordered a thick case for my gf here: Case/Stand on Amazon and I want to make one for her too, so hopefully we can get a few of these going. When I confirm they fit I'll put them up on Thingiverse for everyone!
Ok so update guys!! So after about an hour I started noticing some warping in the ABS plastic (which I have the worst problem with) and I ended up switching from the glow in the dark ABS to the silver PLA. The PLA did much better as far as warping but I get a crappier product
In the next post I'll show the model after I clean it up a bit...
Ok so here are some more pictures after I cleaned it up with a dremel. Usually I just hit it with some sandpaper and throw it in the steamer but PLA isn't bothered by acetone like ABS is. I'll try and find a PLA solvent soon and see what I can do with it. I really like printing in ABS but it warps constantly for me even with a heated bed and a almost perfectly leveled bed. Tonight I will try a different one, most likely the round one
Can it be plugged in while in your stand
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Will it take the plug while in this
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Phone is in and it fits GREAT. Now to start tweaking! Thanks to Who Mike D for the design! We will have more up soon, PM either of us for this file. This version doesn't hold the charge cord.... yet. That is next on the list. I will start on that now. I want to make it so you can use the stock cord and just slide it in and glue it in, or possibly just hot glue and some extra space, I'm not sure yet. The simpler the better IMO.
Be cool to have one that can incorporate something like the LG Qi Charger.
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Be cool to have one that can incorporate something like the LG Qi Charger.
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Get me the most accurate measurements you can for it, the more accurate the better. It is hard for me to really see it in the pics the angle at which the phone sits. It shouldn't be do hard to set a placeholder for one.
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Get me the most accurate measurements you can for it, the more accurate the better. It is hard for me to really see it in the pics the angle at which the phone sits. It shouldn't be do hard to set a placeholder for one.
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Im gonna design one for my Nokia wireless charger as well
I will get some measurements for the LG Qi Charger tomorrow.
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I will get some measurements for the LG Qi Charger tomorrow.
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After looking at the LG charger i just purchased one since its much smaller and i will be able to make a smaller stand with it lol
Edit: Here's what i have so far (still need to add the support legs)
I like! Use my legs off the one I just sent you on it.
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Regarding your 3D modelling
Hi, Where are you based? We can have chat over Skype for this! I am trying real hard to setup my own firm make 3D printed stuff, I can provide you numerous designs and you can give me 3D print!