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Accidentally, I put my tilt with clothes into the washer when I was doing laundry yesterday. Yeah, it does look much cleaner after one hour's wash with detergent, but I couldn't start it any more. After one day baking on top of the monitor, it was able to boot up, but the device will automatically shut off after showing the message " Sim Door is unlocked and the device will shut down in 10 seconds". I've checked the door, locked and unlocked it, but it doesn't work. Liquid has caused a short?
By the way, the warranty has expired, so I have to fix it all by myself. Would appreciate any suggestions

rubbing alcohol and toothbrush try cleaning the guts

Warranty would't cover this anyway. I'd eBay it as "for parts only" and buy something else. Good luck.

Most cell phones as I understand from a tech...they have "indicators" like small dots for example that change color when introduced to liquid. Quick way to say no to the customer in regards to warranty.

UR2L8 said:
Most cell phones as I understand from a tech...they have "indicators" like small dots for example that change color when introduced to liquid. Quick way to say no to the customer in regards to warranty.
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They're called Liquid Damage Indicators (LDIs). They're behind the battery on pretty much every phone.

Friend of mine laundered her Treo. She let it air out on a windowsill for a week.
She let it sit on a couple of silicone packets she had from a camera box.
(Water WILL evaporate, but soap will NOT. I hope it is rinsed.)
It works fine now. Hope this helps.

zhiheng said:
Accidentally, I put my tilt with clothes into the washer when I was doing laundry yesterday. Yeah, it does look much cleaner after one hour's wash with detergent, but I couldn't start it any more. After one day baking on top of the monitor, it was able to boot up, but the device will automatically shut off after showing the message " Sim Door is unlocked and the device will shut down in 10 seconds". I've checked the door, locked and unlocked it, but it doesn't work. Liquid has caused a short?
By the way, the warranty has expired, so I have to fix it all by myself. Would appreciate any suggestions
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Clean it with alcohol and toothbrush as GuySparkz said.
Best to use is isopropylalcohol, if not in specialized electro shop, you still can get it in pharmacy shop. but it will still not dissolve all parts of soap. You should use demineralised water for this, from gas station. yes water. then alcohol. demineralised water act like sponge to minerals and stuff from soup and regular water.
dissasemble it completelly, bath mainboard in dem. water for an half hour, use toothbrash don't be shy with it, then bath in alcohol half hour, now use toothbrush VERY carefully, without too much power. It could tear smd's away.
you can put it to bath on top of working wash mashine to use vibrations from it.
after bath I am using pressed air to drain and blow away drops which still contain unwanted substance, don't use the one from gas station because it contains condensed air drops, better use straw and blow on it fastly.
use fan during your presence or beware of breathing fumes too much and don't let fumes go to your eyes too. it's irritating.
don't bath battery, LCD, cameras, vibra device, keyboard, speaker and mic. use just brush.
if water get in touch panel, you'll probably need to get a new one.
if battery will stop working in few days, you can open and bath board inside it.
now to just drying method. it's risky, water is not 100% conductive, but rust which will be created after few days is and that could finish it off.
I cleaned plenty of phones & cameras after my friends been rafting with them with 100% success. only one camera which had been only drained and used for another 2 days was really dead.

You may want to try taking the battery out and washing it again with rubbing alcohol. It may sound stupid but soap will conduct electricity as it is an electrolyte albeit a bad one i think, this could be causing the short especially when these devices use such low voltage. Get all the residue off and let it air dry I did it once before with my Blue Angel. Dropped it into a blue toilet when i was deployed and I did that and it worked. And before I get a comments from the peanut gallery... My phone was not sh*$y or blue or anything like that just a phone.

Thanks for all you guys. your suggestions really helps!
In fact, I was going to wash it by alcohol.
Anyway, just want to try one more time before I open it.
It does boot up today W/O any error message, even though you still can see some weird areas on the screen.
It is really amazing!
Just to be safe, currently it was sitting in a big bottle of CaSO4 (moisture absorber), hopefully it can be fully cured.

zhiheng said:
Thanks for all you guys. your suggestions really helps!
In fact, I was going to wash it by alcohol.
Anyway, just want to try one more time before I open it.
It does boot up today W/O any error message, even though you still can see some weird areas on the screen.
It is really amazing!
Just to be safe, currently it was sitting in a big bottle of CaSO4 (moisture absorber), hopefully it can be fully cured.
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One of the reason why using alcohol to clean is good is because it will evaporate itself (and whatever liquid or dust it mixed with) almost instantly when you apply on the surface. It's the best cleaning solvent.
This may also help you for your screen problem: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.14919

After rinsing pack it in white rice for several days, it will suck out all the moisture.

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After rinsing pack it in white rice for several days, it will suck out all the moisture.
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very good advice

joihan777 said:
Friend of mine laundered her Treo. She let it air out on a windowsill for a week.
She let it sit on a couple of silicone packets she had from a camera box.
(Water WILL evaporate, but soap will NOT. I hope it is rinsed.)
It works fine now. Hope this helps.
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The Treo seems to fair exceptionally well in regards to water damage. My father flushed his twice, both times he had to remove the toilet to retrieve it. He placed it overnight in front of an air vent and it worked flawlessly afterward and has been working for 6 months since it happened.

[HELP] droped my diamond in toilet

heya guys,
today I was talking on the phone and the phone droped from my hand into toilet. I bring it out fast and removed the battery. I dont know what should I do now,. any advice!!!! will Vodafone accept it for waranty!!!

Usually for any electronic device, take as many bits out as you can an stick it somewhere warm for a day or 2, should get some if not all functionality back, I've dropped many things in the bath and had them back working again. Don't, however, try and power it on until it's had chance to dry out. The touch screen may be an issue though...not dropped any touch device in some water yet to test if the same rules apply....

Stick it in a bowl of (uncooked) rice, it'll help pull out the water faster.

whatever u do dont use any thing like a fan or blow dryer, cause that will just cause the water to go deeper into the phone, use a vaccum to suck the water out as much as possable,then like he said place the phone in a bowl of un-cooked rice for a day or two, good luck.

A little combo of what has been said: put it in a bowl of uncooked rice right at the counter where it gets a lot of sun (battery should be out obviously). The BIGGEST mistake you can do is test it out after a day when you "think" all the water is out. If it isn't and you turn it on, it could cause further damage. I know you're urgent to find out if it works or not, but give it three days with three days in the above conditions. You'll also probably need a new battery.

mp.goldfinger
will Vodafone accept it for waranty!!! - - -- no
Vodafone will not accept phone Warranty
The diamond has a sensor for water

Thanx guys......but I did turn it on today Bcause I really need a number everything is alright but the screens is still fuzzy. I wont use it for at least a week and see what will happend.

i hope you flushed the toilet before you dropped it.. =) otherwise there will be some.. sh*t inside the phone and its not easy to clean

yeah, definitely make sure its in rice, and sunlight doesn't hurt..

And the moral of this story
Don't take your phone out of your pocket when in the toilet.
It's also unhygienic.
Take care of your phone and your phone will take care of you.

I went to a festival where I was so drunk that my diamond went out of my pocket when I got ready to sleep in my tent. And next morning I fond the phone in a little water pool inside the tent. But all the functions still work after I let the phone dry for 1 day.

Uncooked rice (as been mentioned before) is the best solution.
Take your time, as been said before, it will take a long time before all the moisture is out.
Nowadays the chips are very small, water easily lodges between the BGA balls, and it takes a while to evaporate.
just leave it for a week in the bowl of uncooked rice (preferably on a warm sunny place.)
Remove stylus, back cover & battery before sticking it into the bowl.
It's not under warranty: it has a moisture sensitive sticker which turns red when it was in contact with water.
Because it isn't under warranty, I personally would take the device apart, and dry the parts seperately, but that isn't very easy if you haven't done this sort of disassembling before.
Revert to this only if you have absolute confidence (and the service manual ).
Best of luck!
Please keep us posted.
EquinoXe

The problem is long term, the moisture will cause corrosion on the fine
PCB tracks etc. even after its dry, Best thing to do is pull the device appart as best u can get a tooth brush and a can of CRC CO CONTACT CLEANER
blue and white can @ any good electrical wholesaler. spray all the circtry and componets not the screen. and scrub with a tooth brush dont knock
off any small componets and then let dry for a day or 2 best bet is to use compressed air to blow off excess liquid spray from under the chips..
I am in electronic repair hope this helps
This happend to my LG 2 years ago ...into the LOO and i done the process above and its still working today the quicker u dry the water off initialy the better..

thanx guys.....unfortunately I have to buy a new LCD for my diamond as all water has gone inside the LCD and damaged the sheets inside the LCD. I have removed all parts and I am waiting for LCD delivery that cost me 40£

Aww, that is unfortunate..
Hope the LCD transplant will bring it back to life.

I had almost the same issue, but in my case, what I did was that I droped some alcohol inside the power button when I was trying to clean the screen with a tissue and some alcohol. Now the power button works in a faulty way and it tries to reboot every time I click on it. It's like the single click is always a double click on the power button. Any suggestion on how to fix it? This happened to me like 2 months ago and it is still like this.

djfuego said:
Don't take your phone out of your pocket when in the toilet.
It's also unhygienic.
Take care of your phone and your phone will take care of you.
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I dropped an iphone inside the toilet. It rang I went to pickup and it slipped out of my hands.
Apple replaced it though. They didnt even test if it was water damage. LoL

....and I might also suggest that you don't eat the rice later!

Aww thats pretty sick
Have done the same thing, about 2-3 years ago (luckly not with my HTC TD)

All the advice above is right about drying it out, but the main issue you'll have is impurities in the water which, once the water has evaporated will leave residue. The worst is actually salts. These will dislodge components in the phone, and usually it'll never be the same again. Often the water gets under BGA components that arent encapsulated, or between pins of components, and once the water evaoprates the salt cyrstals left behind expand into those gaps.
You can wash the pcb in distilled water, or certain alcohol solutions - depending on what residue there actually is. If you use normal water you'll just make it worse, because that has impurities in it too.
You could have done the same with the touchscreen, but you would need to dismantle it.
Sometimes you get lucky and it all works ok for months.. lets hope you're lucky

S Pen drop into water !!! Help solve

Hi guy, jusy now my S Pen accidentally drop into water, now the problem is the S Pen is very sensitive, when my S Pen haven't touch and far betwwen 0.3-0.4mm to the screen, the screen auto detect it and written...it is annoying~
Anyone have great solution to solve it?
Very appreciate your helping as well...
Tq
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Let the pen dry fully before using it on your Gnote

Try a hair dryer on low heat. I rescued a phone that had dropped in water that way!
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be lucky that it wasnt the note itself wait and hope, or you need to buy a new one

leong19921992 said:
Hi guy, jusy now my S Pen accidentally drop into water, now the problem is the S Pen is very sensitive, when my S Pen haven't touch and far betwwen 0.3-0.4mm to the screen, the screen auto detect it and written...it is annoying~
Anyone have great solution to solve it?
Very appreciate your helping as well...
Tq
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Grab a container and fill it half way with rice. Dried rice ... then put the pen in the middle of the container and fill it up to the top with dried rice. What happens is dried rice sucks out the moisture out of devices. My buddy fixed his IPhone this way. Hope this helps you. Make sure that the container doesn't have leaks otherwise rice sill absorb moisture out of the air instead of the pen.

Just buy a new one, if can afford to but the Note and Im sure 20 bucks is a bargain.

Colingajewski said:
Try a hair dryer on low heat. I rescued a phone that had dropped in water that way!
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marlip said:
Grab a container and fill it half way with rice. Dried rice ... then put the pen in the middle of the container and fill it up to the top with dried rice. What happens is dried rice sucks out the moisture out of devices. My buddy fixed his IPhone this way. Hope this helps you. Make sure that the container doesn't have leaks otherwise rice sill absorb moisture out of the air instead of the pen.
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blue ribbon for colin!!! great job and the right thing to do...a fan will work too in some cases...as long as its moving air it evaporates the liquid faster....
not so much for marlip... rice is 100% a myth.... and no i dont care what you have read, its wrong... if the rice is not touching the liquid it is not absorbing it... sure it picks up some evaporation as it evaporates on its own(no help from the rice i will add again) but it is doing nothing but getting rice dust in areas it doesnt need to be in... moving air people.... whether it is warm or just a fan...moving air will evaporate liquid faster than non moving air.... bag of rice =non moving air.... and again if the rice is not touching the liquid it is not absorbing it...just the normal evaporation that would happen in a container without the rice is all that is happening..
not looking for a fight just trying to help people fix things the right way... ive been repair tech for 20+ years and revived thousands of phones and revived thousands that werent revived by rice... so i do have a clue...
btw if itas a phone just drying it wont fix it...there will be corrosion on the board, and like rust corrosion doesnt stop until you stop it...it may work for a while but it will start getting quirky and issues will arise so it needs cleaned and treated too...

I think i will have to agree... Air circulation will help much more than rice. I look back at my first mobile phones and remember how many of them got soaked and i had to unscrew them apart and just leave them in front of my "ULTIMATE HI-POWER USB FAN" live long nokia 3310
So my opinion bro just look for an s-pen dissasembly guide, follow it carefully, leave your s-pen in front of a fan and forget about rice... Just because ur phones made in asia dosent mean the regions main dish will fix its problems... Will be silly if i poured beer over my BMW's scratches to make em dissapear
Good luck with you s-pen mate!!! Hope to see you drawing in no time
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Leong, I posted a long time ago about how to address a water incident. This is the best tried and true method :
If your phone gets dropped in water immediately remove from the water,
Remove the battery as quickly as possible Then
Dry off the best you can, if you can open the unit up (you have the skill to do so then do so)
Then immerse in 91% Iopropol Alcohol (200proof drinking alcohol is actually better but rarely can find reagent grade drinking alcohol)
The reason for doing this 1st is the water molecules bind to the alcohol which immediately limits the potential damage. Then, after a few minutes (3-15 min depending) then dry off with paper towels and q-tips the best you can and then
Either use a fan (hair dryer) on it for a time and then put in rice or Millet and leave for a day or 2. Then use the Hair dryer to blow off any dust. reassemble and test, most the time you will be successful, it all depends how bad the incident was and how fast you got the battery out of the phone.
This is the standard way of addressing a water incident in underwater photography. I have done this personally more times than I want to admit, I do underwater photography and you can imagine the panic you get when your $3000.00 camera /housing starts to get a leak in the ocean @ 90 feet underwater, worst part is salt water destroys the coating on your lenses, which is insult to injury.
Either way the important thing to to be patient and make sure it is totally dry (ergo 1-2 days) Also storing it in the grain is best @ 75-85 deg F doesn't need more heat just higher than the 60's deg
I know everyone always says OMG putting a electronic in Alcohol..... read up on the science/ chemistry... and you will find this is pretty normal thing as long as there is no battery or power source connected to the item.
Hope you fix it
leong19921992 said:
Hi guy, jusy now my S Pen accidentally drop into water, now the problem is the S Pen is very sensitive, when my S Pen haven't touch and far betwwen 0.3-0.4mm to the screen, the screen auto detect it and written...it is annoying~
Anyone have great solution to solve it?
Very appreciate your helping as well...
Tq
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Can't we all just get along?
There is no constructive purpose for name calling, folks. kawgirlval69 stated in her post that she was not trying to argue with anyone, she was just trying to help. Nobody really cares what will or will not work in theory. As compelling as that science lesson was I always prefer real-world experience to theory.
Last night my SGN went swimming in the hot tub and my daughter told me to burry it in an airtight can of rice (which I did using silicone sealant). By the way, I was thinking the same thing another poster suggested (if only it was only the S-Pen that fell in!)... Anyway I quickly dove in head first after it (forgetting about the wireless headphones that were around my neck) and eventually emerged with the device, although not until after it had sunk all the way to the bottom! Immediately I ripped off the back and pulled the battery, then shook as much water out of all the ports as I could. I used a hand dryer for once over but knew that wouldn't help with any of the water deep inside the device so I took my daughter's advice and buried it inside a sealed can of rice for 18 hours. I would have disassembled the device immediately but I had time constraints due to work obligations so I hoped that the rice would do it's job.
The first chance I got this afternoon I pulled my phone out of the rice and took it apart. There was water EVERYWHERE inside -- big puddles in every nook and cranny! In fairness I can't say if there would have been more or less water at that point without the rice, but that is all academic considering the fact that leaving ANY standing water on electronic components for that much time is a bad idea due to the corrosion factor that another poster mentioned, corrosion I noticed already developing on a few metal brackets and such.
After complete disassembly and thorough drying (with said hand dryer) of each individual part I cleaned the slightly corroded areas and put the device back together. I fired it up no more than an hour ago and so far everything seems to work fine.
As for the S-pen, if there's a way to disassemble it and thoroughly dry it by hand I would do that, or just wait for it to dry on its own which may take several days. As yet another poster suggested it might be worth it just to buy a new one if you can't get that one working... and just be glad it wasn't your phone you dunked!
Oh, and if any are curious, I may have saved my phone but my wireless headphones didn't make it (sniff).
[edit] Apparently the name-calling post was removed? Anyway I appreciate Oka1's reply -- I didn't even think about using alcohol but that's actually a great idea! A bit too late for me now but I'll have to remember that for next time.

@ oka... good way to do it... just a tip from experience.. you dont need the millet or rice after... air dry or fan or etc... overnite will evaporate everything doing things as you described... just saving a step....
@ajax... thank you for actually reading what i wrote.. thanks for having my back...

kawgirlval69 said:
blue ribbon for colin!!! great job and the right thing to do...a fan will work too in some cases...as long as its moving air it evaporates the liquid faster....
not so much for marlip... rice is 100% a myth.... and no i dont care what you have read, its wrong... if the rice is not touching the liquid it is not absorbing it... sure it picks up some evaporation as it evaporates on its own(no help from the rice i will add again) but it is doing nothing but getting rice dust in areas it doesnt need to be in... moving air people.... whether it is warm or just a fan...moving air will evaporate liquid faster than non moving air.... bag of rice =non moving air.... and again if the rice is not touching the liquid it is not absorbing it...just the normal evaporation that would happen in a container without the rice is all that is happening..
not looking for a fight just trying to help people fix things the right way... ive been repair tech for 20+ years and revived thousands of phones and revived thousands that werent revived by rice... so i do have a clue...
btw if itas a phone just drying it wont fix it...there will be corrosion on the board, and like rust corrosion doesnt stop until you stop it...it may work for a while but it will start getting quirky and issues will arise so it needs cleaned and treated too...
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I know that this thread is a little long in the tooth, but I thought I might add this: a mom and pop company called CPR+ (cell phone rescue) uses the following protocol to repair water damaged phones:
1: Place the phone in a hermetically sealed container with long grain brown rice: the atmospherics inside will naturally pull moisture from the device into the drier air in the container.
2: Replace corroded parts and hip joints on the logic board, and glue.
The rice doesn't work because its rice...it works only when placed in a sealed container by transferring moisture from the device to the air in the container. The rice is there to absorb water from the atmosphere...not the device directly. A zip local bag will work too.
A friend of mine is a son of the family who owned the store. He also made a living for two years buying water damaged iPhones and reselling them after using the rice method.
I've saved two of my phones, my fathers phone, and my cousins Droid this way. So far I'm 4-0. Three out of four of those devices, others tried using a hair dryer, a fan, and just leaving them out for 3 days-- 7 in the case of my dads Motorola Tundra. The Tundra wound up with a seeping battery after a hair dryer was brought to it. In most cases I'd just buy a new battery, regardless.
3 days in a zip lock bag--untouched for the whole period, ressurected one phone after the first try, and the other 3 phones after other methods were tried.
As good as anecdotal evidence gets without a double blind test, dontcha think?

The pens are actually very resilient. I had an accident involving my pen and the toilet (don't ask), by necessity I immersed the whole pen in a cup full of regular alcohol, wrapped it in a tissue paper for a while to let it dry, and it works just fine. I had to immerse it several times in alcohol before I felt somewhat comfortable with using it again.

I left my wife's iPhone in a bag of rice on a mildly warm radiator for 2 days. It worked.
However, using a hairdryer seems to make a lot of sense. You want to get rid of the water asap. Not leave it slowly evaporate like I did.
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Just buy a new one buddys

I droped an old nokia in water once.
i followed the same procedure of immidiately removing from water and removing the battery as soon as i could.
Then I just took the entire thing apart and wiped it clean with tissues. Then i just kept it in the sum for abot 15 mins (depends on how strong the sun is). once every thing was dry and seems to be properly cleaned. I just took some rubbing alcohol and cleaned it once again. Dats it.
Assembled every thing and voila!! :fingers-crossed: every thing worked. Not sure how advisable it is to keep electronic components in the sun, but it worked well for me.
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Hope this helps someone in need :fingers-crossed:

Well, the S-pen from my Note 10.1 in 2014 not only fell in the water, as it was washed along with clothing. Once you find it inside the machine, to shake to get the water with soap and became a wash in running water. After this, I used a blow dryer for a few minutes and let her into the compartment in the Note for 2 days. After this, the pen started functioning normally ... would be lucky? rs

leong19921992 said:
Hi guy, jusy now my S Pen accidentally drop into water, now the problem is the S Pen is very sensitive, when my S Pen haven't touch and far betwwen 0.3-0.4mm to the screen, the screen auto detect it and written...it is annoying~
Anyone have great solution to solve it?
Very appreciate your helping as well...
Tq
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I am your first thanker. However, that is weird.
I think that the water causes a short circuit in the pen which lets it think that there is pressure.

[Q] Saliva may have partially impared screen

Hey all,
To keep a long story short, saliva (from my 1 year old daughter) got on/in my phone and now part of the screen does not work. When I say "does not work", the phone is mostly functional, but if I try to scroll through forums or menus then it will try and select some of them as I scroll. Also, some of the onscreen keys don't function properly when using the keyboard on the side. And, the swype does not work.
I did turn my phone off and leave it in a bowl of uncooked rice over night, but that didn't seem to fix much. I even went to the length of re-flashing my ROM and wiping data/cache.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! (I am not afraid to take my phone apart)

Rice is a little to big to get into the nitty gritty of the phone and really dry it out, it may be too late by now but a more thorough way to dry out is to, Take the phone apart, get a q-tip dipped in rubbing alcohol and go over the entire phone. The moisture mixed with the alcohol with evaporate much much faster.

studacris said:
Rice is a little to big to get into the nitty gritty of the phone and really dry it out, it may be too late by now but a more thorough way to dry out is to, Take the phone apart, get a q-tip dipped in rubbing alcohol and go over the entire phone. The moisture mixed with the alcohol with evaporate much much faster.
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Any specific parts I should focus on primarily? I was thinking that the issue may be where the screen cables connect to the mobo.

That's a good assumption.... going over the entire phone will cover all those bases.
Like i said it could already be too late. Good luck man.

Just got done cleaning the internals.. Same spots on the screen are not responding correctly. Looks like it's time to hit up e-bay for a replacement

That's what it sounded like.
But I wouldn't do alcohol wiping. I'd leave it in clothes dryer.
For your next phone pls get a case and screen protector.

bravomail said:
That's what it sounded like.
But I wouldn't do alcohol wiping. I'd leave it in clothes dryer.
For your next phone pls get a case and screen protector.
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Have both a screen protector and case. I heard clothes dryers are bad news for phones though.

Demonic240 said:
Have both a screen protector and case. I heard clothes dryers are bad news for phones though.
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It is as the dryer would probably not only break the phones screen but can shake around the hardware as well. Rice, or a hair dryer set on low is the best bet for drying out phones.

You guys really need your sarcasm meters checked...

I probably do right now. I didn't get off work until two hours ago. Will try better tomorrow haha.
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so-ooo. hair dryer? really? it melts plastic last I saw.
Clothes dryer was bad call, so I retract. May be leave it in furnace room? Stuff gets dry there pretty quick.
I liked sarcasm meter comment. Made my day!

bravomail said:
so-ooo. hair dryer? really? it melts plastic last I saw.
Clothes dryer was bad call, so I retract. May be leave it in furnace room? Stuff gets dry there pretty quick.
I liked sarcasm meter comment. Made my day!
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Yeah.. down south here we don't have furnace rooms
I completely disassembled my phone last night (sans removing glass/lcd) and used rubbing alcohol over all the ribbon connectors. On the plus side, I didn't screw anything else up... on the down side though, still have that nice dead zone on my screen.
Now to either buy a replacement off e-bay or try and pilfer my brothers Infuse that he soft bricked until my contract is up in June.

Ended up fixing my brothers infuse. Nice phone, but I'm going to miss ICS
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can a brand new phone ip68 phone get Water damage ( xperia 1 ii )

so i just got my xperia 1ii today, i was wiping the screen with a bit of wet cloth before sticking on the screen protector, then i saw mist on the front facing camera, next thing i know it screen starts to flicker and turn green, then it died, it was a sad day for me, is it possible for water to get in an ip68 phone when brand new?
it was also kinda my fault for using wet cloth, but like all my other ip68 phones this never happened to me T _ T

WYSIWYG... yes it's possible.
Never assume the seals are intact. Protect from water exposure at all times is what I do.
Will Sony warranty cover it???

I am not sure about Sony's warranty on user error.
There is nothing in the box stating anything about warranty. I bought it online but there is a physical shop that I collected the phone from.
I left it in a bag of rice for 10 hours but the screen still turn up black screen with some odd lines and shut itself down, I feel so dumb for causing this, I usually do the same way of installing screen protectors for my Z3+,Z5 and XZ and water never got in, I feel so embarrassed and unlucky T_ T

Rice Doesn't Work!
The phone needs to be powered down and the battery disconnected asap. Otherwise it will likely be destroyed if it isn't already. It needs to then be completely dried out.
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Battle it out with Sony.
Obviously the first option is incompatible with the second option. I'd send the mess back to Sony, they may or may not suck it up easily.
Sony is a pain to deal with...

blackhawk said:
Rice Doesn't Work!
The phone needs to be powered down and the battery disconnected asap. Otherwise it will likely be destroyed if it isn't already. It needs to then be completely dried out.
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Battle it out with Sony.
Obviously the first option is incompatible with the second option. I'd send the mess back to Sony, they may or may not suck it up easily.
Sony is a pain to deal with...
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Sony is hard to deal with, ya so I've heard, too bad stores are not open today or tomorrow need to wait till Monday.
damn it I bought rice for nothing.

SinclairLen said:
Sony is hard to deal with, ya so I've heard, too bad stores are not open today or tomorrow need to wait till Monday.
damn it I bought rice for nothing.
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I know Sony well, as I have torn into them multiple occasions. They are rotten to the core.
That however doesn't mean that a loose chainsaw can't find an artery
I'm one of the few customers who's gotten a refund check and spoke with a VP in Teterboro NJ. They are slime... the VP's are the worst; a midlevel manager is more likely to help you if you slip through one of the cracks in customer support.
If they take back without trouble, fine.
Otherwise better buckle up Dorothy, it's going be a rough ride.
Did you use a MC or Visa to make the purchase? If so you got leverage...
Send unit back for refund of replacement and do a charge back through the bank.
Do you want another? If not be clear you want a full refund.

Here's the thing I live in Malaysia, I bought it online, and these guys are a small retail start-ups.
They Imported the device from Hong Kong cause we are kinda short on phones that are price above $600. Malaysians don't really spend much on buying new phones hence the difficulty to find high end phones locally, especially Sony, not a popular pick in recent times.
Visa here doesn't even provide any leverage hahaha.
would try to send it back to their local store tomorrow.
I would actually like to get replace to be honest, but some how I have doubts in my mind saying that its gonna be super thought ride.

Have the rear cover removed, disconnect the battery*. Is there visible water in it?
Get out as much as possible.
You need a warm, dry room. Lay on side with a high volume fan on it. Let sit for a couple days.
If you can get anhydrous isopropyl alcohol** carefully flush with that to remove the water. Use care as if it gets between the glass and display it will leave a water mark. Then dry as above.
All connectors, everything must be 100% dry before you reconnect the battery. The room must be dry, heat drives out moisture; use a hot box if you must. Keep temperature under 110F. This may save it...
*the sooner the better.
** never use methanol or isopropyl that isn't at least 96% alcohol. Never use any solvent including isopropyl alcohol with LCD display, it will poison it!

I don't dare to remove the back cover, wont that void the warranty?

I think water got in the LCD connectors, cause last time I turn it on I has weird flickering and turns green with vertical lines.

SinclairLen said:
I don't dare to remove the back cover, wont that void the warranty?
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Yes it might.
That's a AMOLED display not a LCD...

I got some silica gel put in an air tight jar, its been sitting over night since yesterday, hope it turns on tomorrow, or else I am gonna feel so awkward when I bring it to their store.
Damn I've never brought a Xperia phone or any phone in for water damage or any sort of claim warranty before, its giving me the shakes.

SinclairLen said:
I got some silica gel put in an air tight jar, its been sitting over night since yesterday, hope it turns on tomorrow, or else I am gonna feel so awkward when I bring it to their store.
Damn I've never brought a Xperia phone or any phone in for water damage or any sort of claim warranty before, its giving me the shakes.
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That will do nothing. Do Not power it up.

[UPDATE]
So I brought it to the store, there was a bit of resistance there, but in the end they allow me to bring it back in for a check.
They say hopefully there is no red on the water damage sticker, cause if there is, they cant help, but if its just faulty they can replace the phone.

blackhawk said:
Yes it might.
That's a AMOLED display not a LCD...
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Sony use since xperia 1 an Oled display and not Amoled.

blackhawk said:
That will do nothing. Do Not power it up.
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You'd be surprised at what silica dessicant beads can do.

V0latyle said:
You'd be surprised at what silica dessicant beads can do.
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Heat drives out moisture. You need air circulation as well for best results. With a sealed phone that isn't going to cut it.
First any free standing water needs to be dumped out... that's sort of funny, but true.
If you every dealt with flood damaged cars the magnitude of the problem becomes clear. Powered on circuits can be damaged irreparably in a short amount of time. A lot depends on the conductivity of the water and how long it sits there. If the battery was disconnected the car may be salvageable.

blackhawk said:
Heat drives out moisture. You need air circulation as well for best results. With a sealed phone that isn't going to cut it.
First any free standing water needs to be dumped out... that's sort of funny, but true.
If you every dealt with flood damaged cars the magnitude of the problem becomes clear. Powered on circuits can be damaged irreparably in a short amount of time. A lot depends on the conductivity of the water and how long it sits there. If the battery was disconnected the car may be salvageable.
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Heat can help but the point is to make the air inside the bag extremely dry. Air readily absorbs moisture, which eventually evaporates. Very true about keeping everything turned off; while deionized water is non conductive and won't bother anything, most accidental spills and drops are in contaminated water which not only can be conductive, but may leave behind trace elements as it evaporates.
Still, I've had quite good success with desiccant rescue bags.

V0latyle said:
Heat can help but the point is to make the air inside the bag extremely dry. Air readily absorbs moisture, which eventually evaporates. Very true about keeping everything turned off; while deionized water is non conductive and won't bother anything, most accidental spills and drops are in contaminated water which not only can be conductive, but may leave behind trace elements as it evaporates.
Still, I've had quite good success with desiccant rescue bags.
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I've cleaned thousands of circuit boards over to remove the flux. Sticking them in a sealed container with dry air is one thing I never did to dry them. Anhydrous sopropyl alcohol is an excellent cleaning/drying agent for most electronics, but needs a dry room to avoid condensation as it evaporates. Dry warm/hot air with high air flow is best for both isopropyl and water. Most times I also used compressed air to knock off the solvent/water beads then dry the pcbs. A high air flow blower of a large shop vac was another favorite for drying them.
Heat drives out moisture ie hot box. Hot boxes have been used for over a century especially in humid climates to preserve surgical instruments, camera equipment and electronics. Works regardless of the outside humidity. The box or cabinet is sealed but not completely air tight.
The surgery room at Pennhurst actually had it's surgery instrument cabinets lined in the back with steam heated radiators, circa about 1900.
They had large glass doors.
You could vacuum dry it though as this be very effective but again the cover should to be removed at the minimum. It's easy to make a small vacuum chamber, the vacuum pump doesn't need to pull a high vacuum to work well at a warm temperature.
Desiccant bags are best used to keep sealed items dry rather than to remove water per se.
I use them to protect lens.
As for the conductivity of the water it's a crap shoot. It could be mixed with sweat, be acidic, or otherwise contaminated.
I used RO water to flush my Buds case when it fell into a full cup of coffee, cream and sugar. The RO water to chase the sugar, then anhydrous isopropyl alcohol to chase the cream and water. Allowed it to dry in the sun and in a room for a day with the spot welded battery in it. I had the case torn apart and flushed within 5 minutes. 2 years later it still works normally. I drank the coffee after I cleaned the case, perfect day

Silica gel works to a degree on my phone, the screen was able to turn on with the start-up logo but as soon it turns on it restarts itself.
I guess two day wasn't enough, especially on phones that are partially sealed, but I guess its true, not all phones are made equal when it comes to waterproof, I remember my XZ was completely waterproof, the swimming pool kind of waterproof.
Its like buying a lottery when you get a phone that fails its waterproof.
still waiting for update from the seller hahaha.