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I'm thinking hard but not sure what to do.
Someone at work wants to buy my old Dell XPS M140. I've upgraded the original 1.83Ghz processor with 2GB DDR2 RAM and Windows 7. They have offered $400 US.
I always said that I wanted to wait to get rid of that (or replace it without selling it) when there was a decent netvertible or tablet PC out there. Right now, I can't find anything to replace it!!!
I've looked at reviews of the Viliv S10 Blade, Eee PC T101MT, and Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3T, all with bad hardware or slower performance. I definitely will not be buying anything that's slower than my current laptop. I take very good care of my PCs so it runs nice.
I discovered the HP Touchsmart TM2T today, which looked nice in the beginning, but in order for that to last me 3-5 years, I'd have to upgrade the processor and available RAM making it over $1000 US.
Talking about an upgrade just gets me excited but I don't want to make an irrational decision. Nowadays, I only use my laptop for travel but it's a must have (going to Boston in 2 weeks). My fiancee has a laptop, but I do have a touch of the "I want to drive" attitude when it comes to tech stuff.
This all in the same week that I'll probably be purchasing a Canon 500D DSLR camera. HMMMMM..... I don't like to blow money on my tech purchases. I feel I really need to get my money's worth in use. Notice that my XPS M140 was released and purchased in 2005.
Any advice?
Well, if you can't find anything that you like and waiting isn't a possibility I wouldn't sell. But, this oportunity may not come again? I'd suggest doing what you feel would be the most logical for your situation. If it were me, I would sell it and wait, but that may not be an option if you really need something before you can sell.
Sell it and get an ipad man srsly
AND WHY IS IT THAT I CANNOT TYPE IN ALL CAPS ANYMORE WTF
Please, no Apple products. I'm not slow with technology so I don't need things dumbed down.
I might go ahead and sell. Really, where am I going to get $400 for a 5 year old laptop anywhere? I think that's half off the original price. HOOGA!
Exactly. I would sell it to. Good luck!
"HP Touchsmart TM2T"
I would be careful getting that
it's in the same line of hp combi tablets which overheat and die in huge numbers and hp
fight to avoid any sort of rma
mine which is an older generation tx1270 only works now and then because it gets too hot and both the wifi chip and gpu loose connection with the pcb
overheating it for a while makes it come back to life but only for soo long
also it gets too hot to use as a tablet and makes too much noise
of cause the tm2t don't got the culpit nvidia 6250 which hp's poor cooling design caused the issue but would still not trust hp
Don't get the HP. I have had 3 HP tablets (1000, 1100, and the touchsmart - upgraded all to 2G of memory). As the poster above me stated the touchsmart gets very hot and eventually ine died while the 2 older slate-types are both running strong. I love my tablets but the touchsmart is not a good buy.
Look around for something better. I also have a netbook and while it won't run my Access databases it runs most everything else just fine. It's over a year old Samsung and I put an additional gig of memory. All in all ran me just over $300 from Amazon (including the $25 for the extra memory).
Depends on what you need from a PC. I find that my netbook does everything my touchsmart did and just about as fast.
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Don't get the HP. I have had 3 HP tablets (1000, 1100, and the touchsmart - upgraded all to 2G of memory). As the poster above me stated the touchsmart gets very hot and eventually ine died while the 2 older slate-types are both running strong. I love my tablets but the touchsmart is not a good buy.
Look around for something better. I also have a netbook and while it won't run my Access databases it runs most everything else just fine. It's over a year old Samsung and I put an additional gig of memory. All in all ran me just over $300 from Amazon (including the $25 for the extra memory).
Depends on what you need from a PC. I find that my netbook does everything my touchsmart did and just about as fast.
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Ugh, that's such a shame.
I guess there really isn't anything I want right now. I want a multitouch tablet because I want to be there when the multitouch revolution turns, but there is absolutely nothing good in that market for a reasonable price. The Fujistu's are just way too expensive.
UGH, this pisses me off.
Did not make me happy either since it was 3 months after warranty expired. Too expensive to fix. Since I had had so much good luck with the previous models I was pretty unhappy at the quality. It was a nice PC. Oh well....
I'm waiting on a new slate too and was waiting for HP to put out their new one running Win7. But I'm reading that they pulled the plug. We'll see. I would spring for it even after the touchsmart thing. I want one that runs a full Windows OS (not an IPad or some such). Perhaps later this fall something will come out.
Good luck on your hunt.
Not saying the Ipad is bad but I want a full OS. I have some apps I need to load and Ipad won't handle them. So it doesn't meet my needs. Since I own a bunch of Apple stock I am glad that it meets a lot of other's needs. Just doesn't cut it for me.
Yeah, I'd like a full OS, too. One without boundaries and rules.
it looks like the HP Touchsmart Tm2 is coming out with i3 and i5 versions this summer. I'm in line...
sandboxlove said:
actually i played with the ipad, it wasnt nearly as bad as people were making it out to be.
the only reason i wouldnt go there is lack of usb ports (and need for about 40 different adapters to obtain usb) and no flash.
why the hell wouldnt apple include a usb port? jesus
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I agree, the iPad is fun to use but it lacks the major functionality like editing audio like a pro.
sandboxlove said:
actually i played with the ipad, it wasnt nearly as bad as people were making it out to be.
the only reason i wouldnt go there is lack of usb ports (and need for about 40 different adapters to obtain usb) and no flash.
why the hell wouldnt apple include a usb port? jesus
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Because consumers will still buy the iPad, and the next gen is probably going to have USB ports.
lol ive played with a ipad myself not a bad idea but really its just a big ipod touch and if you can get $400 for a 5 year old laptop do it personaly i would never spend that much for a laptop that old not seeing how i spent 480 and got a brandnew notebook with dual core 2.1 4gigs of ram 320gig hdd and ati Hd3200 video card and i have it hooked upto my 46inch samsung dlp hdtv through HDMI
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lol ive played with a ipad myself not a bad idea but really its just a big ipod touch and if you can get $400 for a 5 year old laptop do it personaly i would never spend that much for a laptop that old not seeing how i spent 480 and got a brandnew notebook with dual core 2.1 4gigs of ram 320gig hdd and ati Hd3200 video card and i have it hooked upto my 46inch samsung dlp hdtv through HDMI
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Well, I'm optimizing it for him (Best Buy charges $200 for that) and it has Office Pro and Windows 7, free wireless mouse, Kensington laptop bag, and a bunch of other accessories.
Discuss.
I just sold my laptop last month for a great price and now I'm playing the waiting game until I can get my HP Touchsmart TM2 convertible tablet. I'm dying for an update on a release date, but I'm getting nothing. There is one out already, but it's got the old dual-core. I'm waiting for this baby...
http://www.amazon.com/TouchSmart-tm2-2050us-12-1-Inch-Riptide-Argento/dp/B003KN3IZI
The Fujitsu and Toshiba models seem to be a bit too expensive. Anyone else have any recommendations? I need a real keyboard.
Otherwise, discuss tablet PCs!
I'm completely confizzled.... is this to talk about your dilemma or tablet PC's?
tablet PCs
I just started the conversation with my waiting dilemma
I like the Asus Eee touch pad (4thQ), EP121 is the 12" model & think tehy will have a 10" as well.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/asus-intr...-eee-pad-ep121-eee-pad-ep101tc-and-eee-tablet
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I like the Asus Eee touch pad (4thQ), EP121 is the 12" model & think tehy will have a 10" as well.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/asus-intr...-eee-pad-ep121-eee-pad-ep101tc-and-eee-tablet
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I saw a video of the performance and it was a little buggy. Hopefully they will fix that before release...
Taking a look at the specs, they are a bit meh here. I won't lie
I have a dell xt2 and I am itching to find something better for tablet pc options especially because I travel in and out of LA and Chicago in summer and winter (so the sun is a big issue)
I complain and moan and groan about the dell xt2 for a variety of reasons; mostly its dell using old parts (core 2 dual processor and a 5400 rpm hd where the previous model had a 7200 rpm). Dell ram is an arm and a leg, and SSD is so ridiculously priced its not even funny. Dell tech support is full of morons with their head caught so far up their proverbial anus they assume issues are normal.
And despite all of the problems I have with the dell xt2, I think about the tablet pcs now and I realize this is the best I can get for the type of person I am. I'm a clinical psychology student, so a capacitive touch screen is very important. Pressure sensitivity would help in adobe like programs, but it is not necessary. I like having the ability to use my finger to size and resize because I read my ebooks. I can run mac osx, windows, and ubuntu, and I look for further customization granted and nothing can be found. But I realize for now this is the best tablet for me.
I don't need a tablet that can pop off at the top separating keyboard from screen, I need a higher gpu processor so I can render things a bit faster granted. All in all the tablet pc market is a waiting game. The i7 by lenovo is a joke (which is shocking). Maybe hp would be better with a capacitive touch screen and built with thin and portability in mind
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I just saw the hp elitebook 2740p
and I am impressed a bit
i7 2.6 ghz
8 gig ram
250 gig hd
2 mp webcam
lightweight like the dell xt
multitouch
However, the bad part is the pricetag is almost 3000 dollars psh no way I'm doing that mess - at least not until I get some cash and sell my dell xt2
Perhaps the only issue I easily see with the tablet is that where is the hp custom suite??? its like nonexistent which is a huge negative especially if its marketed as both a consumer and business tablet. I mean the hp touchsmart theme can be installed but that's not the point. Que sera sera
Well, the HP Touchsmart is supposed to be coming out with an i5. Given that it will be the same form factor for the most part, you can max at 8GB of RAM on 64-bit and 500+GB HD. That should only be $1200-$1350.
domineus said:
I'm a clinical psychology student, so a capacitive touch screen is very important.
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Also, I thought this statement was funny.
I just graduated with my master's in clinical psych
Lenovo X200 Tablet > everything else
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Lenovo X200 Tablet > everything else
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Hmm, that's interesting. I'll have to check that out when I get home from work and golf today.
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Hmm, that's interesting. I'll have to check that out when I get home from work and golf today.
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wayyyyy too expensive for the features...that's double the price of what HP is expected to have ready in less than 30 days
If it is soley about price Thinkpads are not usualy the way to go, but IMO they are worth every penny. With it you get the best keyboard, the best pointing device (trackpoint/nipple > mouse > touchpad), the best build quality, and with X200 T, the best tablet computer.
If you already have a laptop and are just looking for an auxillory tablet, then something else is in order. But if you want a laptop and a tablet, or just something with the convience of a tablet that still has the full power and utility of a laptop, the X200 T is hard to beat. It is the only tablet which I would consider a "laptop replacement" (it's a laptop in disguise); to me the higher price and extra 1.5 pounds are made up for by this fact.
I do wish Lenovo would shove more powerful hardware into their machines, especily on the GPU side. And honestly one of the biggest draws for me and many other Thinkpad fans is the trackpoint/nipple. Once you get used to it, you can never go back to using a touchpad, and at times it is even difficult to use a regular mouse. I know Dell puts something similar on their business laptops but it is a far ineferior implamentation to the Thinkpads'.
HP Slate looks alright
and it's the normal smartphone price about £350.00 and has a 1.3 Ghz processor!
not to big as well because that was one of apples failure along with the oth half a million because if you want to type with both hand you have to put the flippn' thing down.
wanna get my self a slate
Thanks
MooGoo said:
If it is soley about price Thinkpads are not usualy the way to go, but IMO they are worth every penny. With it you get the best keyboard, the best pointing device (trackpoint/nipple > mouse > touchpad), the best build quality, and with X200 T, the best tablet computer.
If you already have a laptop and are just looking for an auxillory tablet, then something else is in order. But if you want a laptop and a tablet, or just something with the convience of a tablet that still has the full power and utility of a laptop, the X200 T is hard to beat. It is the only tablet which I would consider a "laptop replacement" (it's a laptop in disguise); to me the higher price and extra 1.5 pounds are made up for by this fact.
I do wish Lenovo would shove more powerful hardware into their machines, especily on the GPU side. And honestly one of the biggest draws for me and many other Thinkpad fans is the trackpoint/nipple. Once you get used to it, you can never go back to using a touchpad, and at times it is even difficult to use a regular mouse. I know Dell puts something similar on their business laptops but it is a far ineferior implamentation to the Thinkpads'.
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I agree with you on the build quality. From what I have seen, Lenovo seems to dominate that market, but I just cannot agree with you with the trackport/nipple. I've logged quite a bit of time with Lenovos and IBMs and I just don't get why they still make that thing. I upgrade my mouse every year and I just can't have anything else. Well, maybe a stylus!
But what I was really looking for is a netbook with touch capabilities that can convert into a slate. I want a real keyboard and I want specs that beat the XPS M140 (Intel M 1.83Ghz, 2GB RAM, 80GB HD) and I want to be ready for touch software coming out later this year. I didn't want to spend more than $1000 either. It seems that the HP Touchsmart is the best (and only) one so far.
IdeaPad S10-3t is garbage. EeePC T101mt is garbage. the S10 blade gets expensive when you want to upgrade to something decent. And the HP Touchsmart Tm2 seems to be perfect, just needs an optical drive.
I have got an hp pavillion tx2650eg which is very fine with its touchscreen. The touch input isn't that good, but the input with the inductive pen is wonderful
scilor said:
I have got an hp pavillion tx2650eg which is very fine with its touchscreen. The touch input isn't that good, but the input with the inductive pen is wonderful
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Is there a product page for this? All I'm seeing is old information or help manuals.
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Also, I thought this statement was funny.
I just graduated with my master's in clinical psych
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for real!? isn't it a mother trying to get work in the field!? My god it sucks so bad!
But yeah I use my xt2 for notes a plenty and reading on the go. I mean touchsmart is okay...but I don't need a big old desktop I want a tablet that'll last 2 years and the size of the hd is okay I mean I can change that. Or even get like 4 gb of ram and update the ram myself and keep the i7 processor. I'll save up for it or look for it on craigslist like my first dell xt =) and my dell xt2
I mean dell pricing is crap. I want my i7 8gb of sexy damnit!
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for real!? isn't it a mother trying to get work in the field!? My god it sucks so bad!
But yeah I use my xt2 for notes a plenty and reading on the go. I mean touchsmart is okay...but I don't need a big old desktop I want a tablet that'll last 2 years and the size of the hd is okay I mean I can change that. Or even get like 4 gb of ram and update the ram myself and keep the i7 processor. I'll save up for it or look for it on craigslist like my first dell xt =) and my dell xt2
I mean dell pricing is crap. I want my i7 8gb of sexy damnit!
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I read a while back that Dell was investing in convertible tablets, but I haven't seen anything yet. I'd trust purchasing Dell, but they just don't have anything cost-worthy.
Also, it's always good getting jobs early in the degree process and then working your way up. I apparently make more now in my bachelor's position than others trying to get jobs with their master's degree. If only that degree would finally come in the mail.
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I read a while back that Dell was investing in convertible tablets, but I haven't seen anything yet. I'd trust purchasing Dell, but they just don't have anything cost-worthy.
Also, it's always good getting jobs early in the degree process and then working your way up. I apparently make more now in my bachelor's position than others trying to get jobs with their master's degree. If only that degree would finally come in the mail.
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trust me I am very mad at dell for giving me so much crap. I think that hp may be my future option if the i7 runs well
domineus said:
trust me I am very mad at dell for giving me so much crap. I think that hp may be my future option if the i7 runs well
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And not a day goes by without me Googling "hp touchsmart tm2" for new results...
I mean tablets are generally more expensive, require a lame data plan, have a barely usable keyboard, and are much more limited in terms of games than say a laptop? I mean all in all I can't find a plus side as to why a tablet beats even the worst laptop I own. I just wanted to get some input as to how a tablet could be better than a laptop... my laptop is barely larger and is actually lighter than most tablets so I can't find a reason to justify buying any except the 5 inch streak (due to it also being a phone)
They're more portable; you have to remember.that tablets are made for consuming data, not inputting.
That makes them great for pretty much any leisurely activity you can think of, but they aren't made to actually do work on.
Waking up and having one in bed; going to the coffee shop and relaxing; using while wwatching tv; these are all possibly better with a tablet.
Hell I have an ipad and I use it for every one of those; I pretty much only use my computer for typing papers, downloading things, and printing documents.
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Well I guess I splurged and bought the Adamo XPS and in terms of portability I'd say they're about equal. I wake up with it next to me and dont even use my TV anymore thanks to netflix on this thing. I mean in my opinion you get all the function of both a laptop and a tablet on a good laptop... I can't think of a thing an ipad can do that my laptop cant and can think of a million things the other way around.
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Well I guess I splurged and bought the Adamo XPS and in terms of portability I'd say they're about equal. I wake up with it next to me and dont even use my TV anymore thanks to netflix on this thing. I mean in my opinion you get all the function of both a laptop and a tablet on a good laptop... I can't think of a thing an ipad can do that my laptop cant and can think of a million things the other way around.
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lol thats one funny looking piece
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lol thats one funny looking piece
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Agreed, it's weird that the keyboard doesn't go down completely.
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I've been thinking of getting a macbook air 11 inch cause it's all the portability of a tablet but can still do computing. I'm having trouble myself finding a reason to get a tablet because I have a smartphone. Just want one cause of the cool factor. Not others thinking I'm cool, but I think tablets are cool.
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I've been thinking of getting a macbook air 11 inch cause it's all the portability of a tablet but can still do computing. I'm having trouble myself finding a reason to get a tablet because I have a smartphone. Just want one cause of the cool factor. Not others thinking I'm cool, but I think tablets are cool.
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You could always get that dell laptop/tablet thing...
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If you have an Adamo XPS then actually... a tablet wouldnt be much more portable for you Although I like to use an iPad for portability rather than MBA
I was actually thinking of getting one but I don't know.......
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As always there is a golden compromise.
I was looking for a tablet like the ZTE Light or Samsung G. Tab but couldn't justify splashing out the money they cost.
Also without an extra (expensive) contract with a provider they would be useless.
Can't see much usefulness in those cheap China made Android tablets without 3G/4G connection, that's flooding the market.
So I stick with my compromise between Laptop and Tablet. A Netbook from 2009.
The Eee PC 1005HA have more power than a Android tablet and longer battery time 3-7 hours, dependent power saving or performance setting for battery power (the batteries have been used daily for two years).
Also Win7starter is a far more powerful OS than any phone-OS.
well....i am trying to justify getting a tablet by selling off my HP multitouch convertible tablet TX2.
it's almost 4 years old, heavy and runs VERY hot.
i was thinking to get a BLACKBERRY playbook instead of this.
am a student and need to use the laptop for presentations(that too office 2010), extensively use word, and bla bla bla.
should i sell the laptop or just buy the tablet without letting my laptop off??....AM TORN APART AND CANNOT MAKE A DECESION ON MY OWN. please help mighty, insightful men
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well....i am trying to justify getting a tablet by selling off my HP multitouch convertible tablet TX2.
it's almost 4 years old, heavy and runs VERY hot.
i was thinking to get a BLACKBERRY playbook instead of this.
am a student and need to use the laptop for presentations(that too office 2010), extensively use word, and bla bla bla.
should i sell the laptop or just buy the tablet without letting my laptop off??....AM TORN APART AND CANNOT MAKE A DECESION ON MY OWN. please help mighty, insightful men
waiting for a reply.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/157613/the_hp_pavilion_tx1000_convertible_tablet.html
do you have this
boborone said:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/157613/the_hp_pavilion_tx1000_convertible_tablet.html
do you have this
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no....i have the next gen of the same family.
i have this :http://archive.techtree.com/techtree/jsp/article.jsp?article_id=100007&cat_id=616
A guy at one of the offices I support has a Transformer Prime, it's lovely.
He can RDP onto the TS server in the office, or his PC at home and use Windows, or just use Android so has the best of both worlds.
achyut said:
well....i am trying to justify getting a tablet by selling off my HP multitouch convertible tablet TX2.
it's almost 4 years old, heavy and runs VERY hot.
i was thinking to get a BLACKBERRY playbook instead of this.
am a student and need to use the laptop for presentations(that too office 2010), extensively use word, and bla bla bla.
should i sell the laptop or just buy the tablet without letting my laptop off??....AM TORN APART AND CANNOT MAKE A DECESION ON MY OWN. please help mighty, insightful men
waiting for a reply.
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Don't get the BB Playbook. The development for RIM is nonexistent.
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achyut said:
no....i have the next gen of the same family.
i have this :http://archive.techtree.com/techtree/jsp/article.jsp?article_id=100007&cat_id=616
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Kinda cool but I don't see demand for it being that big.
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Don't get the BB Playbook. The development for RIM is nonexistent.
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Apart from that it's a bloody awful device!
If you hold it portrait it feels top heavy like it wants to fall out of your hand, turn it through 180 and it still feels top heavy.
Apps are expensive, £6-8 for an RDP client which is free on other systems?
£5 for Angry Birds!
It takes at least 5 minutes to turn on.
I spent a day using one and within minutes realised why they just aren't selling.
point taken....but as am from India and have a budget constraint, there are few options for me.
kindle fire, touchpad, color are still not available @ India
except for the playbook, the only tablet coming my way is the galaxy tab(the very prehistoric first one)
i am thinking to start saving more to get the LENOVO thinkpad.
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point taken....but as am from India and have a budget constraint, there are few options for me.
kindle fire, touchpad, color are still not available @ India
except for the playbook, the only tablet coming my way is the galaxy tab(the very prehistoric first one)
i am thinking to start saving more to get the LENOVO thinkpad.
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Even the very prehistoric galaxy tab beats the playbook
I know a few people that bought the PB just to regret it or trade it for an ipad or Gtab
Blackberry sucks for now, maybe it'll get better in the future but for now they suck
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achyut said:
point taken....but as am from India and have a budget constraint, there are few options for me.
kindle fire, touchpad, color are still not available @ India
except for the playbook, the only tablet coming my way is the galaxy tab(the very prehistoric first one)
i am thinking to start saving more to get the LENOVO thinkpad.
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How about the ASUS transformer?
Well...I've had it for a couple months, and Dell has still not delivered on their promise of official Honeycomb.
I just got hired for a job, and should have a few hundred by the end of the month.
The Asus transformer meets all my needs - an official Honeycomb tablet, it can be used as a notebook (it has a docking keyboard and can be flashed to dual-boot linux) and there are already plans for a Transformer 2, which depending on price, I may wait for (running a Tegra 3 quad-core.)
So, I'm highly considering switching to Asus.
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Well...I've had it for a couple months, and Dell has still not delivered on their promise of official Honeycomb.
I just got hired for a job, and should have a few hundred by the end of the month.
The Asus transformer meets all my needs - an official Honeycomb tablet, it can be used as a notebook (it has a docking keyboard and can be flashed to dual-boot linux) and there are already plans for a Transformer 2, which depending on price, I may wait for (running a Tegra 3 quad-core.)
So, I'm highly considering switching to Asus.
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Ditto... Dell is suckin it up when it comes to support.
Do it. I hate this thing. Steve has done so much and it's still only bearable. I used it for like the first month I had it and went back to using my much smaller phone. Mainly due to the terrible display. Unfortunately there is no rom that can improve a display. I can't even sell it. People use it and there like oh no thanks. I may have to pay someone to take it away lol. But for realz tho. I would sell it if I were you. Just hope you have an easier time of it than I am.
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I have both the transformer and the streak . I like them both. To each there own.
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You people crack me up and I'm not saying this to be mean, but why would you buy a device on hopes that it may or may not be upgraded. Think about it, staples ad's and website say OTA Honeycomb Upgradable, and Dell's website just says something like OTA Upgradable. To me that doesn't say it will be it says it can be. If and when this gets upgraded it would be 3.2, but you can't just snap your fingers and say here it is. That's not to say that Dell is working on an upgrade because I don't know. I'm not sure what angles you are using this at, but the angles I use it at to view e-mails, read a book are fine for me. I mean I wouldn't have paid $300 for the WiFi only (which is what I have) nor would I have locked myself into a contract with it, but I gladly bought it with the $100 off coupon and I did have to return my first one because the capacitive buttons weren't working. You can't buy technology on hopes and promises, you have to research and decide if the device as is will fulfill your needs. If not don't buy it. This for me is doing everything I need it to as is. I want Honeycomb as much as the next person, but what this device has been out what at total of 6 months or something and honeycomb has been available for less than that. I've had my droid 2 for a year and Verizon still has yet to roll out Gingerbread for it (I did however get tired of waiting and flashed CM7 on it).
If you are leaving and you say you cant sell it easy, ill buy it from you if you make me a good enough deal. I love my ds7. Ill get one for my wife
Let me know!
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You people crack me up and I'm not saying this to be mean, but why would you buy a device on hopes that it may or may not be upgraded. Think about it, staples ad's and website say OTA Honeycomb Upgradable, and Dell's website just says something like OTA Upgradable. To me that doesn't say it will be it says it can be. If and when this gets upgraded it would be 3.2, but you can't just snap your fingers and say here it is. That's not to say that Dell is working on an upgrade because I don't know. I'm not sure what angles you are using this at, but the angles I use it at to view e-mails, read a book are fine for me. I mean I wouldn't have paid $300 for the WiFi only (which is what I have) nor would I have locked myself into a contract with it, but I gladly bought it with the $100 off coupon and I did have to return my first one because the capacitive buttons weren't working. You can't buy technology on hopes and promises, you have to research and decide if the device as is will fulfill your needs. If not don't buy it. This for me is doing everything I need it to as is. I want Honeycomb as much as the next person, but what this device has been out what at total of 6 months or something and honeycomb has been available for less than that. I've had my droid 2 for a year and Verizon still has yet to roll out Gingerbread for it (I did however get tired of waiting and flashed CM7 on it).
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Go to Dell automated support and search Honeycomb. It says there WILL be Honeycomb. They didn't say that it's upgradeable, they said there would be an upgrade. In fact, I think if there is not a Honeycomb upgrade, it may be enough that someone can take a class-action against them. And you make a good point that the tablet has been out longer than the OS, but that can cut both ways. This means Dell had the hardware plenty long to create a Honeycomb build for it...if they were going to, I don't see why it wouldn't have been done by now.
pyraxiate said:
If you are leaving and you say you cant sell it easy, ill buy it from you if you make me a good enough deal. I love my ds7. Ill get one for my wife
Let me know!
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I am considering keeping it as a backup or to carry around, even if I get the transformer (7 inch is easier for me.) But if I do decide to sell it, I'll tell you
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I am considering keeping it as a backup or to carry around, even if I get the transformer (7 inch is easier for me.) But if I do decide to sell it, I'll tell you
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I bought mine with the staples deal because it was a 7 inch tablet with nice speakers and a tegra 2 processor and the two cameras. It is a good deal for 200.00. If HC gets on here that is a bonus for me.
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I bought mine with the staples deal because it was a 7 inch tablet with nice speakers and a tegra 2 processor and the two cameras. It is a good deal for 200.00. If HC gets on here that is a bonus for me.
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I picked mine up for 200 brand new in box unopened and a new unopened otterbox commuter case. I love craigslist lol. So far overall im pleased with it. Screen resolution with rdp is acceptable. I use mine tethered to my 50 / Month cricket kyocera zio phone. Their internet speed is so much better than at&t 3g service. With a 7 inch screen I wouldn't want a higher resolution. A higher resolution means everything would be tiny in rdp (I need to use it while driving like a touchscreen mobile workstation) and so far with a bluetooth keyboard it does nicely. The viewing angle isn't the best but acceptable. Im not even pressed for hc because it does EVERYTHING it should without a hitch ( rdp, netflix, movies, game console emulators, 3-4 hrs battery w/ heavy usage, ect). You get the storage graphics and processor of the large tablets ....but also something even better. IT FITS IN YOUR BACK POCKET!!!!!!!!! (Im a smaller guy w/ a 30 inch waist and it fits easily in any pair of Levi or old navy rear pants pocket I have
Just my opinion though.
bluesy_92, you're talking about this link: www5 dot nohold dot net/Dell/Loginr.aspx?pid=7&Streak=Streak%205&login=1&userrole=USen which is not even on the dell website, and holds no merit in my opinion. I would look at this: www dot dell dot com/us/p/mobile-streak-7/pd click on tech specs and it clearly states "Android™ 2.2 (Froyo) with Over the Air Upgrade Capability". Class action suit? So if my laptop is not compatible with the next version of Windows or Linux, I should go after the manufacturer of the laptop, or I can't run OSX (not that I would want to) on my laptop should I go after Apple or HP? The fact is, that Honeycomb 3 and 3.1 had well documented problems with the 7" screen size so since 3.2 which is said to fix this has only been available for what a few weeks, if that? So while I agree we need Honeycomb, I'm patient enough for Dell and Google to get it right. Google hasn't even released the source yet because it's just not done. Would you rather have a device that is at least IMO stable on 2.2.2 or a device that may or may not be stable on Honeycomb as it stands? Why are there no Honeycomb 7" tablets on the market currently? I mean even searching for the Chinese brands there are none. When we get it, if we get it, it will be awesome, but as it stands I'm happy having a device that actually works for me, this is not my first tablet, in fact it's my 4th.
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bluesy_92, you're talking about this link: www5 dot nohold dot net/Dell/Loginr.aspx?pid=7&Streak=Streak%205&login=1&userrole=USen which is not even on the dell website, and holds no merit in my opinion. I would look at this: www dot dell dot com/us/p/mobile-streak-7/pd click on tech specs and it clearly states "Android™ 2.2 (Froyo) with Over the Air Upgrade Capability". Class action suit? So if my laptop is not compatible with the next version of Windows or Linux, I should go after the manufacturer of the laptop, or I can't run OSX (not that I would want to) on my laptop should I go after Apple or HP? The fact is, that Honeycomb 3 and 3.1 had well documented problems with the 7" screen size so since 3.2 which is said to fix this has only been available for what a few weeks, if that? So while I agree we need Honeycomb, I'm patient enough for Dell and Google to get it right. Google hasn't even released the source yet because it's just not done. Would you rather have a device that is at least IMO stable on 2.2.2 or a device that may or may not be stable on Honeycomb as it stands? Why are there no Honeycomb 7" tablets on the market currently? I mean even searching for the Chinese brands there are none. When we get it, if we get it, it will be awesome, but as it stands I'm happy having a device that actually works for me, this is not my first tablet, in fact it's my 4th.
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A computer being compatible with the next version of Windows is a different matter - unless it is specifically stated that it will be compatible.
As it stands now, it says 2.2 on the Dell website, because that is the current OS. The fact that is says that there WILL, not MIGHT, be an upgrade, means they need to deliver. And as far as I'm concerned, there are already 7 inch tablets planned for release on Honeycomb 3.2, and we've had the hardware MUCH longer than they have, Dell had time. At the very least, if Honeycomb isn't coming out anytime soon, they can at least acknowledge it, rather than pretending it doesn't exist, and say straight-up that there is going to be a wait.
Oh, and if you haven't been here last week, Dell Mobility was telling people that Honeycomb was already being pushed to devices, despite the fact the update was never pushed. Also, this was around the time of the Staples deal. Any company that lies to their user-base to get sales, does not deserve them.
Yes, 2.2 is very stable, but Dells customer support - not so much.
I understand what you're saying but believe you are missing my point. Yes there are 7" versions planned to be released, like the Acer Iconia A100, which was supposed to come out earlier this year, but has yet to come out due to the issues with Honeycomb and screen size, not that there may not have been hardware issues or something but what I read was mainly honeycomb. Even the much hyped Vizio tablet is shipping with Android 2.3, because as they state "Honeycomb is just not stable, once we feel it's stable we will consider an upgrade". Now don't misunderstand me, yes the tablet we have is Honeycomb compatible, I have yet to find anything on the Dell website that states it WILL get it, though I have read that it was announced at CES that it WILL get it. I believe it will get it. And yes I did read the posts on here regarding Dell telling people it was being pushed when it wasn't. The biggest problem with companies is over promising and under delivering, personally I am not a Dell person (and actually hate the company) and had a hard time actually purchasing a Dell product. But purchased this device based on the hardware and my needs, that and the $100 off, but did not read forums before making my purchase so as not to be swayed. My business partner has the 7" Galaxy tab, and made her ask Verizon before getting locked in if it would ever see Honeycomb, they flat out told her no. Now the staples website does state "Android™ 2.2-based tablet with over-the-air upgrade capability to Android™ 3.0 (Honeycomb). Upgrade date TBA." But I still say, make your purchases based on if the device fills your need as is, not what the device could be. I have had my share of crappy support from Dell in the past with business computers, so much as to tell them to go f$$# themselves I'm voiding the warranty and fixing it myself.
I flip flop like a politician on this tablet. Some days I hate it some days I love it.
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best $199 tablet in the market
This is best tablet for $199...even with honeystreak thanks djsteve...7 inch tablet perfect size,I use this more than my ipad 2....
Yeah dell will probably not update the streak 7 since 10 inch dell streak pro coming out in Sept..if they do it will be updated with froyo 2.2.3 not honeycomb but who knows for sure...if you go website it doesnt look promising...we will see hopefully we do get update honeycomb-----
Maybe they're holding out in order to release IceCreamSandwich. Why release HC when everyone will be screaming for ice cream? You scream, I scream...we all scream for ice cream.
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I bought mine with the staples deal because it was a 7 inch tablet with nice speakers and a tegra 2 processor and the two cameras. It is a good deal for 200.00. If HC gets on here that is a bonus for me.
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Ditto here. I really like my Archos 70S tablet which pretty much has the same general specs, screen resolution, limited viewing angle, Android 2.2.x, etc. Since its from Archos it plays tons of media even formats the Streak can't. Much lighter than the Streak with better battery life too.
Yet with all that, I think the $200 I paid for my Streak at the Staples sale is a bargain. This is an official Google approved device so no need for a hack just to get market. Has a built-in GPS and enough system memory and storage to run a ton of apps at the same time and have a plethora of downloaded programs to run. The Archos 256 M of memory and 300 M of app storage is quite limiting, but then it was designed with a price point way cheaper than the Streak. So no Gorilla glass either. No dock although it does have a USB port on the device which is handy and a mini HDMI port that I much prefer on a dock like the Streak.
Add to that the Tegra2 chipset on the streak, the capacity to vibrate (I assume that's part of being a Google approved device), a compass (ditto) and there's nothing like it on the market.
Getting HC is just gravy as far as I'm concerned.
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I picked mine up for 200 brand new in box unopened and a new unopened otterbox commuter case. I love craigslist lol. So far overall im pleased with it. Screen resolution with rdp is acceptable. I use mine tethered to my 50 / Month cricket kyocera zio phone. Their internet speed is so much better than at&t 3g service. With a 7 inch screen I wouldn't want a higher resolution. A higher resolution means everything would be tiny in rdp (I need to use it while driving like a touchscreen mobile workstation) and so far with a bluetooth keyboard it does nicely. The viewing angle isn't the best but acceptable. Im not even pressed for hc because it does EVERYTHING it should without a hitch ( rdp, netflix, movies, game console emulators, 3-4 hrs battery w/ heavy usage, ect). You get the storage graphics and processor of the large tablets ....but also something even better. IT FITS IN YOUR BACK POCKET!!!!!!!!! (Im a smaller guy w/ a 30 inch waist and it fits easily in any pair of Levi or old navy rear pants pocket I have
Just my opinion though.
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I agree, its really the only tablet that you CAN fit in your pocket, and as far as the viewing goes its not like your displaying it for a whole room to view it at once, by a big screen tv at that...
I just saw that Bestbuy will be selling the Dell Streak 7" with Honeycomb installed for $160. I saw this right after I finally decided to go ahead and buy a Kindle Fire. Now it seems almost like a no brainer to get a near full featured tablet with the same size screen as a Kindle Fire but for $40 less, but it also seems too good to be true.
So I wanted to know, are you all happy with your Streak? Would you say that $160 is worth it.
I really appreciate any input.
Thanks.
I felt in love with Dell Streak 7 already, too bad that I bought this for my gf, and giving it to her tomorrow. Dell Streak 7 is a good tablet, of coz the resolution is not high so it doesn't let you play all the HD games and you don't have much RAM to play heavy games, but if you use it for entertainment, relax with no "tough" game then it is better Kindle Fire. And of coz this is just my opinion. To be frank, I don't play much with my Iconia A500 since I got this
Very much so! I love this little bad boy underdog.
I am happy with mine. I wish the screen had a little better resolution. Bluetooth tethering to my phone is a snap. I basically wanted something that was like my phone but larger and it works just perfect as that. Its much easier and faster to use than having to drag out my laptop.
I initially liked my DS7 but over time it began to annoy me. The screen began to make my eyes hurt when reading and the battery would run down quickly. I ended up getting several Nook Tablets for the family and for my purposes, I'm more satisfied. The NT screen is much sharper and the battery lasts hours longer than the DS. I only used the camera once and never used the GPS so the trade is worth it since I mainly use my tabs for reading, surfing and light game play. I did initially miss the variety of apps but someone came up witha workaround and now I can sideload with apps free sites and Amazon app store.
I like my Dell Streak 7, the 7 inch size and weight is much more handy then my 10.1 inch tablet in its portfolio case. Basicly the compact handling of a phone with a readable (as opposed to squintable) screen size. Screen resolution has not been a problem infact it is a nice match to Netflix.
The short 4-5 hour battery life is the only aspect I wish was better.
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The short 4-5 hour battery life is the only aspect I wish was better.
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Is that for a mix of usage or for straight video watching?
With my rooted DS7, using SetCPU and setting up custom profiles, I tend to see about 4-5 for watching vidoes, but get about 6-10 hours for playing games, and a 4 day standby time.
The battery isn't a major issue for me. Not a fan of the stock launcher though. Really want to use LauncherPro, but it keeps fc'ing. Anyone have any suggestions on other LauncherPro like launchers?
Also for some reason, I can't listen to voicemails with Google Voice. Still got to figure that one out.
Device does not support WiFi channels 12-14, makes a noise when speakers are enabled, batery life is not so good, WiFi signal is worse than other tabletst, display is very bad (angle/resolution), also the device is clumby (fat and heavy)
BUT
it is very cheap and very fast. im fine with it so far, but i might switch to another device.
got one form BEST BUY. still on the way.!!!! but I'm Sure the screen not the BEST!
so far so good only one problem it is not reading from SD Card.
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I just saw that Bestbuy will be selling the Dell Streak 7" with Honeycomb installed for $160. I saw this right after I finally decided to go ahead and buy a Kindle Fire. Now it seems almost like a no brainer to get a near full featured tablet with the same size screen as a Kindle Fire but for $40 less, but it also seems too good to be true.
So I wanted to know, are you all happy with your Streak? Would you say that $160 is worth it.
I really appreciate any input.
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No I am not. And Don't buy a streak 7 given so many much better choices out there in the market.
My DS7 was a total disaster now I see it. It was my first tablet and I was inexperience to make an informed buy. I bought from TMO store on the release date and then found that no Dev is supporting it.
Eventually I participated a donation led by someone else and we send a device to DJ Steve who became the one and only dedicated dev on DS7, who are also working on many other devices at the same time.
Screen horrible, battery horrible, TMobile 4 G signal always break down for no reason and requite a reboot to get it back. GPS NEVER works well for a trip without a hiccup. This is my third DS7 already because I exchanged the previous 2 with Dell because all sorts of reasons.
Since you are asking advise I assume you won't want to listen to holiday choirs and holy praises. I am the bad guy who is critical.
Bottom line, DONT BUY A DISCONTINUED PRODUCT WITHOUT DEV SUPPORT.
I'm thinking about what 7-inch tablet i'll going to buy: Dell Streak 7 or Lenovo A1.
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No I am not. And Don't buy a streak 7 given so many much better choices out there in the market.
My DS7 was a total disaster now I see it. It was my first tablet and I was inexperience to make an informed buy. I bought from TMO store on the release date and then found that no Dev is supporting it.
Eventually I participated a donation led by someone else and we send a device to DJ Steve who became the one and only dedicated dev on DS7, who are also working on many other devices at the same time.
Screen horrible, battery horrible, TMobile 4 G signal always break down for no reason and requite a reboot to get it back. GPS NEVER works well for a trip without a hiccup. This is my third DS7 already because I exchanged the previous 2 with Dell because all sorts of reasons.
Since you are asking advise I assume you won't want to listen to holiday choirs and holy praises. I am the bad guy who is critical.
Bottom line, DONT BUY A DISCONTINUED PRODUCT WITHOUT DEV SUPPORT.
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What other products are there? Currently it's the cheapest (mid/high end) 7" tablet available, it's main competetors are the gtab7/+ which is either lower specced or more expensive. It was just sold for $160 on black friday new and can be found pretty easily for
~$250 on ebay in good condition.
Sub $200 tabs cant compete with it as they have very low end internals.
The S7 with Froyo and the s7 with Honeycomb are completely different devices (not literally, but the way it works)
I didnt buy mine until black friday as I so no point with froyo on it, but it's pretty great with HC.
As for the 4g, I honestly dont see the point of a 4g tablet, I have the wifi one and simply tether to my S5 (and also avoid paying a 2nd line just for data)
The GPS is rather weak on it, but in my case the wifi one is likely worse at wifi then the 4g one. It works with some hiccups.
So what if it'd discontinued, even if dell did support it for another 6 more months, the most we'd get is like 3.2 -> 3.2.2/3.2.4, there's no chance it'd get updated to ICS.
You have your warrentee, they're not gonna magically/instantly null it, they're still gonna support active warrentee owners until they all expire. (it might become them only offering refurbs but this is still support)
Bottom line: for $190-240 there's really little competition, it's either the S7 or the gtabs.
The Gtab 7 is slower but about the same price
The Gtab 7+ is faster but more expensive
The Lenovo A1 is slower but about the same price
How about nook tablet or kindle fire? Since people here enjoy custom rom anyway, os on these two won't be a problem I guess
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Hmm that is a good point, I had forgotten about those.
Depending on how you look at it, they only run GB and not HC/ICS.
If you wanna use it as a normal android tablet, they're not currently ready for that purpose as they dont have any stable roms yet.
I do believe the kindle is slower, but it'd definitely got more devs, and when CM9 hits stable it might be a pretty good choice. It's tegra 2 vs CM9 for the same price point.
I cant say much about the nooks, the old nook is much slower but cheaper and will likely get CM9 (it already has CM7), I dont read much at all about the new nook except I expect it to also get CM9 eventually.
I assume the S7 will still be the fastest of all 7" tabs except vs the gtab7+.
The nooks and kindles are advertised as ereaders, with the kindle as kina ereader+multimedia. They're not advertised as full on tablets so they can be underpowered for their age.
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No I am not. And Don't buy a streak 7 given so many much better choices out there in the market.
same here. i get more and more unhappy every day. multitouch works only to up to two fingers. you are right about gps, i tested it and got only 2 satelites in 2 minutes while standing in the garden.
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alex2308 said:
same here. i get more and more unhappy every day. multitouch works only to up to two fingers. you are right about gps, i tested it and got only 2 satelites in 2 minutes while standing in the garden.
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There is a fix for that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085354
I lock on in 30 seconds.
I guess I look at it as being the best $160 tablet I've ever owned. The only issue is the battery life, but I can charge it twice a day for the hundreds I'm saving over comparable devices.
The screen sure does take a lot of flack on the Streak 7, but if you look for the silver lining, just about every app works at that resolution. You don't have some of the scaling issues that higher resolution tabs have.
I also hear a lot of comparisons to the Fire and the Nook...and, if they get root and a good custom ROM, then they might be better for "basic" tablet functions, but if you want full tablet functions out of the box, with all the cameras, mics, GPS, etc...then the Streak is still a better option.
Ah well, this forum is pretty much dead, so I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes?).
I'm happy though!
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I guess I look at it as being the best $160 tablet I've ever owned. The only issue is the battery life, but I can charge it twice a day for the hundreds I'm saving over comparable devices.
Ah well, this forum is pretty much dead, so I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes?).
I'm happy though!
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I bought a Dell Streak 7" last week that was a couple of months old for $150. It came with Froyo but I upgraded to Honeycomb and it's like having a different tablet, really nice for what it is.
It's not an iPad2, Asus Transformer, Xoom, Acer etc. I looked at all of those tablets two days ago and the screens on them are very much nicer, but...they cost $300-$400-900+, not $150. The Streak is a real tablet not one of those $100 unknown brand Android tablet gadgets that last a week. The wifi and GPS work great along with having Honeycomb now I really like it.
I owned an iPad2 for 4 months and it is a fantastic device, it also cost me $1000 for wifi/3G and a Smart Cover. I've had the Evo4G since Aug. of '10 and love Android so in the future I'm thinking about the Asus Transformer that's coming out later this month. It will cost 2 to 3 times as much as the Streak, it will have a beautiful screen, and be worth the extra money no doubt.
I use the Streak for Flying and it is outstanding for various Aviation moving map programs. For $150 instead of $1400-2500 for a Garmin GPS aviation unit it is a bargain.
So you're not alone, the Dell Streak 7 does what it's supposed to for a reasonable price, and I like it too.
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