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HTC Incredible S' Camera - TOO much noise compression!

I've noticed that the camera of the IS blur parts of photos a lot. I noticed this problem on subjects with finer details eg. skin, rocks etc. It tends to blur or supress the finer details within the subject making them unacceptably too soft.
Opinions?
EDIT: I meant to say NOISE REDUCTION

Nothing like this for me ... Pictures are perfect ... I love the cam ... Maybe its cuz u zoom in too much or something.
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Hmmm, I never zoom though.

Or maybe its just our diff opinions ... For me its perfect ... Maybe u expected something better
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chobie said:
I've noticed that the camera of the IS blur parts of photos a lot. I noticed this problem on subjects with finer details eg. skin, rocks etc. It tends to blur or supress the finer details within the subject.
Opinions?
EDIT: I meant to say NOISE REDUCTION
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I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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nikant said:
I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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I hope this is just a software problem and hopefully they could patch it via an update.

nikant said:
I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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I'm no photographer, but I noticed the file size as well, too much compression.
And waaaay to much noise reduction.
Also, you can switch of standard widescreen to normal 4:3 which results in this:
5:3 = 3264 x 1952 = 6371328 = 6.4 megapixel
4:3 = 3264 x 2448 = 7990272 = 8.0 megapixel
Hopefully we can turn off noise reduction and/or compression in the next update. Shouldn't be too hard for HTC to disable stuff right

Yes... I just upgraded from HTC Desire and I found that pics are not as detailed as before...
The compression thing should be an option, like many other DC.

I noticed the same with my IS...

My Camera 360 app's night enhancement mode is unusable now.
My N1 took beautiful sharp pictures of this same spot I took.
Now it's all blocky, soft, and washed out even though I've maxed out the resolution and size.
This makes me mad!
If it can take macroshots well, why can't it take landscape / non-macroshots well too?
1st photo: Nexus One
2nd Photo: HTC Incredible S

nikant said:
I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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Here's the patch for CM7 (N1). Root is required as it is replacing a file in the /system partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011810

k3vink3vin said:
Here's the patch for CM7 (N1). Root is required as it is replacing a file in the /system partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011810
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We dont have root yet though. Makes me sadder =/
HTC should update the firmware and fix this themselves. I wonder if theyll have this problem on Verizon's Incredible 2.

I've send an email to HTC support just out of curiosity of their official response.. Although I don't believe they'll say something significant. Companies tend to defend their choices..

when i load the photos to my laptop, i found all of them a little bit red...

I really can not be satisfied with this so-called 8 mega-pixel camera.

nikant said:
I've send an email to HTC support just out of curiosity of their official response.. Although I don't believe they'll say something significant. Companies tend to defend their choices..
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got a reply today.. they asked me for samples of photos that show the problem.. I sent them.. let's see..

nikant said:
got a reply today.. they asked me for samples of photos that show the problem.. I sent them.. let's see..
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The most terrible scenario is using zoom. You would want to move forward a few steps, it entirely defeats the purpose of zoom.

We should rally this and send more samples to them.
What email contact did you guys use?
Hopefully they patch this with the Gingerbread update!

Maybe they had used to the bad quality of camera, because from now on, HTC is really not good at the entertainment field in mobile phone, no matter camera or music.

Is the camera as good as the reviews and you tube make out ?

I use a slr as my main camera as I do wedding photography as a hobby
I'm looking for a portable camera which will give me as much choice in settings as my slr and looking at the reviews and you tube the galaxy camera seems to be the one
Question from you users is it really as good as the reviews, are there any issues ? Do the settings really work ? I use aperture for slowing down shots for water etc and I see the camera has the settings so do they work ?
I am going to go into my local jessops tomorrow but wanted for opinions
Thanks
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Come on 29 views and no one can help me out ?
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30 views now and have no answer for you cause I'm using a different phone just read your thread for maybe finding a new camera compatible.
Ask Google in the mean time. Good luck
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Good Enough
Hi, I've had my camera for almost a week and I'm very pleased with it. Manual settings work ok I guess, I managed to take this picture of the moon the other night using manual settings.
Keep in mind the res of this picture is not the original!

moon
is this with 21x zoom ?
robb13 said:
Hi, I've had my camera for almost a week and I'm very pleased with it. Manual settings work ok I guess, I managed to take this picture of the moon the other night using manual settings.
Keep in mind the res of this picture is not the original!
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robb13 said:
Hi, I've had my camera for almost a week and I'm very pleased with it. Manual settings work ok I guess, I managed to take this picture of the moon the other night using manual settings.
Keep in mind the res of this picture is not the original!
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Had a play today the first thing which struck me was wow
The zoom is awsome and if half the features work as they should I'm Flogging my slr and getting one of these babies
Build is really good and the high res screen makes viewing pics a dream
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pileiba said:
is this with 21x zoom ?
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Yes, 21x and manual settings!!

mancuk29 said:
Had a play today the first thing which struck me was wow
The zoom is awsome and if half the features work as they should I'm Flogging my slr and getting one of these babies
Build is really good and the high res screen makes viewing pics a dream
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To play a little devils advocate: The pictures this camera produces are very good, but to be totally honest a half decent SLR will blow it away in terms of pure picture quality as it is in high-end compact/superzoom territory.
Internals from this camera are quoted to come from the Samsung WB850F, and one would imagine Samsung has done some more work on them to qualify a price almost twice what you can pick one of those up for now - as well as obviously the android benefit
I mean you're effectively getting the serious hardware from a SGS3 in there... That and the screen is absolutely phenominal, makes most camera displays look like very pathetic toys.
It sold itself to me anyway I was there on launch day for one.

mancuk29 said:
I use a slr as my main camera as I do wedding photography as a hobby
I'm looking for a portable camera which will give me as much choice in settings as my slr and looking at the reviews and you tube the galaxy camera seems to be the one
Question from you users is it really as good as the reviews, are there any issues ? Do the settings really work ? I use aperture for slowing down shots for water etc and I see the camera has the settings so do they work ?
I am going to go into my local jessops tomorrow but wanted for opinions
Thanks
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It depends on what you class as a review. The Samsung promo videos are excellently produced and really show off the countless features. I haven't seen too many in depth reviews so far.
My own experience is that it looks stunning, build quality solid, screen is outstanding, features are impressive, performance is excellent. But as for photographs, it still depends on 3 things... Lighting, Artistic eye for a good shot and a moderate level of understanding how cameras should be set up. These are pretty much standard for any camera you use away from the one built in to your average phone. Get these right and you can produce excellent shots that will make you proud.

molotov_sh said:
To play a little devils advocate: The pictures this camera produces are very good, but to be totally honest a half decent SLR will blow it away in terms of pure picture quality as it is in high-end compact/superzoom territory.
Internals from this camera are quoted to come from the Samsung WB850F, and one would imagine Samsung has done some more work on them to qualify a price almost twice what you can pick one of those up for now - as well as obviously the android benefit
I mean you're effectively getting the serious hardware from a SGS3 in there... That and the screen is absolutely phenominal, makes most camera displays look like very pathetic toys.
It sold itself to me anyway I was there on launch day for one.
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Considering the OP shoots with an SLR and does wedding photography as a hobby - I have a feeling the Canon G12 will deliver superior image quality and more features that matter for a serious photgrapher for only $379 (Actually, only $299 now at B&H...), compared to the Galaxy Camera which is designed for posting to your Facebook wall at $120 (Edit: $200 right now) more. As you mention, it has the internals of a FAR cheaper P&S camera, and I'd be shocked if it delivers significant improvements in IQ over that model. After all, the $200 extra in price over the WB850F (currently $300 after rebate at Adorama) can easily be explained by the display, touchscreen, Exynos4 CPU, and at least $100 wasted on a 3G radio interface few people will use. (Most will tether to another device.)

[REQ] improve stock camera

instead of posting "awesome" pictures this phone takes, can we face it that the camera is not one of the best and maybe somebody can help modify some values in order to fix it? if one uses motorola stock camera for example it is obvious that it takes way better pictures than the stock camera our phone comes with, especially in low light environments. thanks!
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persheshhater said:
instead of posting "awesome" pictures this phone takes, can we face it that the camera is not one of the best and maybe somebody can help modify some values in order to fix it? if one uses motorola stock camera for example it is obvious that it takes way better pictures than the stock camera our phone comes with, especially in low light environments. thanks!
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It's not one of the best and neither has anyone claimed it to be the best. It takes decent quality pictures. And frankly for the price it sells it has
a pretty good performace to cost ratio. If you want bette camera's you should look at HTC One, Xperia Z which have better sensors in them.
Picture quality is mostly dependent on sensor used and not much can be done by changing couple of values here and there.
On a side note, Vic Gundotra has said they are planning something big with camera's. So lets wait and watch what they do.

Have you tried using her mode for low light
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[REQ] search before posting
Camera video quality increase (AVC profile high! & level 4) (kernel included!)
Speaker + camera quality.
[TIP] Camera color temperature
NEXUS 4 Camera Issue.. Same as Iphone5
Just because you typed [REQ] at the front of your thread doesn't make it any different than the dozen or so camera threads that already exist.
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Very Pixelated Pictures?

So maybe I have a setting wrong or this is just how the phone is, but every photo I've taken so far has looks very pixelated. It looks great on the phone screen but as soon as I upload it to facebook it looks like junk.
Any ideas?

Facebook and many other places online to share pics reduce the size of pics quite a bit. I'd blame fb rather than the phone.
You could also check settings in camera to see if it's set to a lower megapixel than the 4mp maximum just to be sure.
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Well it should be pixelated because 1) dark areas on many camera shot have noise and 2) ultra pixels are larger than normal so on this cam we get decent day shots and awesome night shot.
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gk1984 said:
Facebook and many other places online to share pics reduce the size of pics quite a bit. I'd blame fb rather than the phone.
You could also check settings in camera to see if it's set to a lower megapixel than the 4mp maximum just to be sure.
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Where is that under the camera settings. I see Video Quality, but I dont see anything that lists photo quality/pixel size.

Well you're right. I swear I saw the option to change resolution but I can't find it again
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howie411 said:
So maybe I have a setting wrong or this is just how the phone is, but every photo I've taken so far has looks very pixelated. It looks great on the phone screen but as soon as I upload it to facebook it looks like junk.
Any ideas?
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I don't know if this is the problem or not, but here's my input (I'm a photographer):
There isn't any zoom on the camera lens, so when you "zoom," all you're effectively doing is cropping. The One doesn't resize the image, so it could create a pretty small image if you're zoomed in.
The other possibility (unless you're absolutely positive that the problem is pixelation) is that with the auto ISO setting, it might look grainy, especially in the dark. You can manually choose lower ISO, and yield a clearer (but darker) image.
Or, as the others have said, different apps may be the culprit. Have you tried loading the image directly from your phone to your computer?

UltraPixel= Larger pixels, great for night, not as good for during the day
http://www.androidcentral.com/megap...sung-galaxy-s4-versus-htc-one-camera-shootout

aman1127 said:
UltraPixel= Larger pixels, great for night, not as good for during the day
http://www.androidcentral.com/megap...sung-galaxy-s4-versus-htc-one-camera-shootout
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This has been discussed before in other threads. The camera sucks... This whole "Ultrapixle" crap is just a bunch of bull****.

I get great results from the camera. Day and night.
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Wow... Some of the suggestions on here are funny. It has nothing to do with the camera. It's an amazing camera and I post to facebook from it all the time. What you are experiencing is entirely on mobile data. I work at a repair center and we see this nearly every day. Because of all the changes sprints going through this year it's causing issues with photos uploaded and viewed online and primarily through apps. If you are using WiFi to upload to facebook and then viewing facebook on the same WiFi immediately after and are still experiencing this issue them check your router or reset it. If this continues then have your phone replaced. It's not handling u/d data properly.
Again.. this is not your camera. I have discussed this with several people here and through my job and it has been proven time and time again it's the network not the phone. In most cases and in some(rare) it's the phone itself and a simple replacement fixes the issue
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tkoreaper said:
This has been discussed before in other threads. The camera sucks... This whole "Ultrapixle" crap is just a bunch of bull****.
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This camera is amazing. It's the user that usually sucks
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The camera would be better if it had manual focus. The tap to focus is crap and AF is non existent.

tsdeaton said:
Wow... Some of the suggestions on here are funny. It has nothing to do with the camera. It's an amazing camera and I post to facebook from it all the time. What you are experiencing is entirely on mobile data. I work at a repair center and we see this nearly every day. Because of all the changes sprints going through this year it's causing issues with photos uploaded and viewed online and primarily through apps. If you are using WiFi to upload to facebook and then viewing facebook on the same WiFi immediately after and are still experiencing this issue them check your router or reset it. If this continues then have your phone replaced. It's not handling u/d data properly.
Again.. this is not your camera. I have discussed this with several people here and through my job and it has been proven time and time again it's the network not the phone. In most cases and in some(rare) it's the phone itself and a simple replacement fixes the issue
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This camera is amazing. It's the user that usually sucks
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Amazing compared to what, a flip phone? I've already sent in my ONE to get it "fixed", but the camera still took poor quality pictures. My old S3 takes better pictures than this thing.

tkoreaper said:
Amazing compared to what, a flip phone? I've already sent in my ONE to get it "fixed", but the camera still took poor quality pictures. My old S3 takes better pictures than this thing.
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I agree it's the user but I have read instances where focus was an issue related to faulty hardware.
Proof the htc one camera is amazing - http://www.reddit.com/r/oneography
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gk1984 said:
I agree it's the user but I have read instances where focus was an issue related to faulty hardware.
Proof the htc one camera is amazing - http://www.reddit.com/r/oneography
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Those pictures are good, but not because of the camera... it's the scenery. However these pictures further prove my point. Look at those pictures and notice the blurry/hazy effect of everything not in the center on the picture. Look at the picture of the Red rocks... the whole right side looks like crap. Had these pictures been taken with my S3 the entire picture would be crisp.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/...5879103770744579522&oid=114157047189530288078 is another good example. I can understand the background being way out of focus, but there's no excuse for the right side of the picture.

tsdeaton said:
Wow... Some of the suggestions on here are funny. It has nothing to do with the camera. It's an amazing camera and I post to facebook from it all the time. What you are experiencing is entirely on mobile data. I work at a repair center and we see this nearly every day. Because of all the changes sprints going through this year it's causing issues with photos uploaded and viewed online and primarily through apps. If you are using WiFi to upload to facebook and then viewing facebook on the same WiFi immediately after and are still experiencing this issue them check your router or reset it. If this continues then have your phone replaced. It's not handling u/d data properly.
Again.. this is not your camera. I have discussed this with several people here and through my job and it has been proven time and time again it's the network not the phone. In most cases and in some(rare) it's the phone itself and a simple replacement fixes the issue
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This camera is amazing. It's the user that usually sucks
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Way to add something "useful" to the conversation. Go troll elsewhere. I just asked a question.

tkoreaper said:
Those pictures are good, but not because of the camera... it's the scenery. However these pictures further prove my point. Look at those pictures and notice the blurry/hazy effect of everything not in the center on the picture. Look at the picture of the Red rocks... the whole right side looks like crap. Had these pictures been taken with my S3 the entire picture would be crisp.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/...5879103770744579522&oid=114157047189530288078 is another good example. I can understand the background being way out of focus, but there's no excuse for the right side of the picture.
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There have been some cameras on the one with hardware problems that affect focus. One side or the other would be blurry. It's not how the camera is intended. But also keep in mind that the low f-stop this camera uses causes a shallow depth of field, which gives a blurred background or foreground effect. This is often an artsy look. It's a low f-stop to also let more light in.
By the way, the pic you linked to was one of mine and that blurred effect was what I was going for with the shallow depth of field. I switched on macro mode to get more of the effect. I get the same kind of pictures from my DSLR.
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howie411 said:
Way to add something "useful" to the conversation. Go troll elsewhere. I just asked a question.
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It's actually very useful information considering we see your problem every day. I'm telling you what the problem is and what it is not
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I would rather use my camera (that is designed to take pictures) to take pictures that I want to show off/print.. My camera phone is just for those quick "can't miss it" times.

Quick can't miss it moments, yes! Or when I forget to bring my camera. I printed an 8x10 of a great scenery recently and it turned out great
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tsdeaton said:
Wow... Some of the suggestions on here are funny. It has nothing to do with the camera. It's an amazing camera and I post to facebook from it all the time. What you are experiencing is entirely on mobile data. I work at a repair center and we see this nearly every day. Because of all the changes sprints going through this year it's causing issues with photos uploaded and viewed online and primarily through apps. If you are using WiFi to upload to facebook and then viewing facebook on the same WiFi immediately after and are still experiencing this issue them check your router or reset it. If this continues then have your phone replaced. It's not handling u/d data properly.
Again.. this is not your camera. I have discussed this with several people here and through my job and it has been proven time and time again it's the network not the phone. In most cases and in some(rare) it's the phone itself and a simple replacement fixes the issue
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This camera is amazing. It's the user that usually sucks
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Biggest load of crap I've ever read. Nothing you ever say makes sense to me since the LGOG threads.. If it's a mobile data issue why is it only a HTC One issue? You're the typical Sprint rep who says any bs to silence a customer. I've been uploading from a Evo LTE and a Note 2 in a very congested crappy data city with none of those issues. It's just how the camera is on the One, it is 4mp after all.. I myself was never amazed by the camera which is why I skipped on the One. Nice features but you can definitely see a loss of quality due to it being only a 4mp cam.
Ps I like how you say it's a mobile data thing but then say to reset your router :what: :screwy:
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Could someone post the camera apk from KitKat?

I'm very disappointed with the resolution of the default camera. The images are not sharp, and absolutely terrible in low light. I'm surprised Samsung is getting away with this.
Is the camera software on KitKat better, and could someone post it's apk? Thanks.
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incisivekeith said:
I'm very disappointed with the resolution of the default camera. The images are not sharp, and absolutely terrible in low light. I'm surprised Samsung is getting away with this.
Is the camera software on KitKat better, and could someone post it's apk? Thanks.
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Really? This is one of the best cameras out there. You're not gonna get much better unless you get a GS4 Zoom or a Nokia Lumina (the one with a 41 mp camera). You gotta learn how to play with the settings on the app

RErick said:
Really? This is one of the best cameras out there. You're not gonna get much better unless you get a GS4 Zoom or a Nokia Lumina (the one with a 41 mp camera). You gotta learn how to play with the settings on the app
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The OG Note has a much better camera with default settings, in my opinion. What main settings get you good pics on the Note 3?
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Highest quality, image stabilization on, auto mode. Just play with it, it has iso and exposure settings too. I have taken some really sweet long exposure shots with it propped up on a rock that look like they've been taken with slow exposure film.

Ever tried Camera Zoom FX?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
I'm REALLY fond of it. For me I had a lot of issues with the default Note 3 camera app. Forcecloses, videos that randomly kept the torch on until I rebooted... Camera Zoom FX makes it a lot easier to make great use of the Note 3 camera hardware.

BewareAlbatross said:
Ever tried Camera Zoom FX?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom&hl=en
I'm REALLY fond of it. For me I had a lot of issues with the default Note 3 camera app. Forcecloses, videos that randomly kept the torch on until I rebooted... Camera Zoom FX makes it a lot easier to make great use of the Note 3 camera hardware.
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Yeah, but that is only good for up to 8MP processing. I'd rather have the full resolution of what's built in.

RErick said:
Yeah, but that is only good for up to 8MP processing. I'd rather have the full resolution of what's built in.
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Mine goes to 12.8MP (4128x3096). I did notice it didn't do 4k video recording, but I can't find any third-party apps that do that. Does it maybe vary device to device? Might be worth trying out... I know the max MP stated for the Note 3 is 13 but for all I know that's an averages thing. I don't mind losing 0.2MP, since for all I know the full 13 is like I said just raising up.