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[Q] Out of space, S2E doesn't work

I ran out of space on my N1 (CM7), used Froyo A2SD, got annoyed and switched to S2E. It didn't free up any space (still around 25MB free on /data), but I was able to continue adding apps so I didn't mind. Recently, I just went down below 20MB free space and Android is complaining.
I suspect that when I installed S2E it didn't delete the apps from /data/app. It just copied them to the SD card and mounted it SD card on /data/app.
Am I right? Can I free up that space without removing S2E or factory resetting my phone?

A2sd only move party of the apps, data will still remain inside the phone. User dark tremor a2sd, it move everything to the ext section of the sd card, you can also move dalvik cache which free up a huge amount of space

S2E also moves dalvik.
Have you used out to move dalvik to SD? Do you have an ext partition on your SD (assuming it needs one)

S2E definitely needs EXT partition on your SD card. If you never added it - S2E didn't have any effect.

I could move dalvik-cache, but I was under the impression that dalvik gets more write hits than /data/app and my Class-4 SD card will be more of a problem.
I used to use DarkTremor until it got buggy with certain GB ROMs. So I got rid of it and just used the builtin A2SD. Then I got S2E.
I have a 512MB EXT partition.
S2E did seem to work: the apps are on the SD card; I was able to install more apps; if I try using the builtin A2SD, it doesn't affect free space on /data.
It just never reduced the space used in /data.

In that case, you might use Terminal Emulator or ADB shell to check if the apps are indeed duplicated and exist both on the phone and on EXT. Use "ls -l" to see if the apps you see in /data/app/ are real apps or symlinks.
And Dalvik2SD is perfectly fine with my Class 2 SD card.

[Q] Ext3.ko and Ext4.ko is for App2sd?

I'm currently using GingerCruzt 7.4
I saw Ext3.ko and Ext4.ko under /system/lib/modules/ i was wondering:
If i partition my 16GB SDcard to FAT32 and Ext3/4, would my internal memory increased like App2sd on Eclair does?
Or it's just gonna be wasted space?
Then i just repartitioned my sdcard(my sdcard was parttioned 12GB(data),1GB(Ext2),500mb(swap)) to 1GB(ext3) and the rest is FAT32 and nothing's happened, my internal memory remained 255 mb, is there any wrong steps i took?

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Moving apps to SD (whatever partition) frees up internal memory space as apps are installed there by default. By freeing up internal storage, your phone gets somehow faster

does it means it's doesn't show up as internal memory, but does the same thing as Eclair App2sd?

You can see the app in 'app managemet' on SD tab. The app will work the same except for widgets won't show up.
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With GC or most of custom roms, you have only to create an ext2/3/4, then system recognizes your ext partition and installs your new apps directly there.
Then you just have to normally install apps on phone, and they'll go "silently" in the ext partition of the sd .
You can check if it works by going in the /sd-ext by a file explorer and see if there are folders inside (they should be 4). If everything is correct, you should find your apps installed in /sd-ext/app.
Please note that of course your total internal memory space won't grow up.
Apps will be simply installed in the sd-ext, leaving your internal space free

i dont know if is a bug or what , but my app2sd work's without ext partition in my sd card, my apps go to .android_secure folder in my sd card, is that normal ?

Low Internal Memory on CM7

Everything is on SD Card and still I have only 30mb free space...how can I clean up phone memory?

Install Root Explorer and delete the non-used apps

Hi install darktremor app2sd script! quick instuduction how to: first of all you have to partition your sd card via cwr then download darktremor app2sd script, put on sd and install zip from sd! its important to mount system and data first before install darktremor! then reboot if its done your phone will reboot again to put all apps on 2nd partion of sd card! then download app2sd gui from the market with this app you can move dalvic cache to sd also! and if both done tada emty interial memory ;-) ok one thing dont do or move anything in settings/apps on the phone after you install darktremor cause it ruins the script and it will not work anymore! do settings when only with app2sd gui!
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M1hai said:
Everything is on SD Card and still I have only 30mb free space...how can I clean up phone memory?
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You can try also this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391214

Even though everything is being installed on the sd card the root or core files of the app gets installed on the phone memory not much but a bit

M1hai said:
Everything is on SD Card and still I have only 30mb free space...how can I clean up phone memory?
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Moving apps to sd-card doesn't move complete app (it only move movable part of the app to sdcard and leave other to internal memory)....
So, partitioning is recommended. Partition your sdcard and install a2sd scripts to move app to sd-ext. For more info regarding this search at http://yagyagaire.blogspot.com

Best solution for me: with Titanium Backup Pro i used integrate sys Dalvik into ROM now i have free internal memory

I think s2e works just fine for our CM7, except the "Download Cache" option... Just don't tick it.

[Q] ext4 and a2sd

I am using gingerzaraki rom and had created 512 mb ext4 partition using clock work but when i view internal memory it shows 212 mb. also i had set in cynongenmode settings to use a2sd and store applications in external memory but they are not stored in external memory and i have to use application manager and shift applications to sd card manually. please help out configure this

Using ext partition doesn't affect internal memory. So in settings there will be always 212mb (miniCm7 ROMs for sure, other - don't know).

than what is the use of ext partition???

ext partition cant improve your internal memory but if you put your movable apps in ext partition you will get free space in your internal memory for new apps to install!

thks for the info but how to move movable apps to ext???

I meant move apse to ext

too_cool_4_all said:
I meant move apse to ext
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If you have created the partition on your SDcard..then when you install app,it will automatically moved to your SDcard..and your Internal memory will not be reduced..

I have created the partition but still when I install applications internal memory keeps decreasing

You can use Link2sd, which is more simple...

too_cool_4_all said:
I have created the partition but still when I install applications internal memory keeps decreasing
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Ooo..i see..first go to settings..then go to cyanogenmod settings..go to applications and tick allow application moves(i'm not sure its name but its the first one)..and select external from the second menu(under the allow application moves)..i hope you can understand me..

I have done this too than also internal memory keeps decreasing......

OK, the sd-ext is the partition where your .apk app are moved into sd-ext the partition...
Depends on the custom rom ext mounter script or APP2SD app, it can move your app & dalvik-cahe together into the sd-ext partition or not.
Now, Sd-ext just store .apk(app) And/or Dalvik-cache. So, the data(data & databases) that created by some app (games, media player, and for forth...) will sit in your phone /data/data. so your phone /data partition spaces will decreased out. If your custom rom ext mounter script does not assign to move dalvik-cache together, your phone /data partition will max out very quickly.
Because every app installed will create a .dex file in dalvik-cache folder. except for some app (Theme, etc....)
And TIPS. USE PARITION WIZARD FOR GOD SAKE (Sorry for the caps)
Hope this will get into your head
Hope you guys Doesn't get lost in the jungle

[Q] Some apps don't see sdcard1

I have tried to Google this issue with little success. What happens is I used to have the Xperia Ray (GB 2.3.4) where apps like ZDBox can detect my Samsung 32GB microSD and moved apps to SD without issue. Now with the SP, it cannot see the ext SD at all (but Cleanup Master still can). Another issue is that SD Tools was able to display the Samsung SD ROM data on the Ray but can't now with the SP. Also, SD Booster used to recommend 2048 for 32GB SD on the Ray, but now saying 512 is optimal? I am so confused. Is it a SP or JB 4.1.2 issue? Both are rooted BTW.

Because the Sp has internal memory mounted as SD card you won't be able to move apps to SD card.
To move apps and data a lot of people use link2sd to move apps to ext SD card and apps like folder mount to move game data/obb files to ext SD card.
Only works if rooted.
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zolaisugly said:
To move apps and data a lot of people use link2sd to move apps to ext SD card and apps like folder mount to move game data/obb files to ext SD card.
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The problem is that link2SD din't move the /data/data/x folder to the ext2 Sd partition, then if you have a lot of files there (like music temporal files of Google Music) the benefits are poor.

themacboy said:
The problem is that link2SD din't move the /data/data/x folder to the ext2 Sd partition, then if you have a lot of files there (like music temporal files of Google Music) the benefits are poor.
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It will not move it. It will mount it in this point.
Link2SD can move data to other partition. But. You have to had two partitions on sd card. First one in FAT on wich you hold any files (music, movies...) and second on wich you will move app data. With new version you can have on second partition ext2, ext3, or fat filesystem.
You need to have root of course. You can try make only one partition in sdcard, but in this case you have to make ext2 or ext3 partition on SDCard and I really dont know if it work. I didnt see option in link2SD where you can set your data partition so it will try to find second partition on sdcard.
I use 32GB sd card with 16GB with FAT filesystem and 16 in ext3 to move app data there.

To create 2nd partition you need to use PC and a partition creating tool I use easeus maker.
You need to create partition and make it primary,if you use fat32 it will be supported by stock ROM.
Once done put card back in phone start link2sd and it will find new partition and ask how to handle select format that matches yours.
Then you can link all the apps you want apart from system apps.
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I usually use AParted to format all my partitions on SD card from my phone.
As I said before, in my phone link2SD din't manage /data/data/x folder on second partition (ext2, ext3, ...), only manage /data/app/x and probably others.
Then if you try to move to ext2 partition (link) any app with a lot of data files stored, alll this files din't point to ext2, will remain in internal memory.
For exmaple:
Try to download Google Music app, link this app to ext2 partition. Now in app make ready a lot of file in offline mode. It will store all this temp song files in /data/data/com.google.andorid.music folder.
Now check in Link2SD and with any filebrowser, you will see that this files are always in internal memory because link2SD din't manage /data/data/x to link it to second partition on external sd.

Sorry I can't help any more as I dont use that app you said. I do use link2sd and have no issues when linking the app to the ext SD card.
Remember you may see info still on data/app but the contents are sym linked.
But if you are sure you have set 2nd partition correct to primary and using fat32( stock supports this)
I can't help you further sorry
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I ended up just using Clean Master moving 19 apps to SD. There are many can't be moved but not too bad consider it is far more convenience than Folder Mount. I also removed SD booster which was tested to offer no speed advantage. Next will be battery drain problem. Boy I feel I have spent more time tweaking the android than actually utilizing it.

themacboy said:
I usually use AParted to format all my partitions on SD card from my phone.
As I said before, in my phone link2SD din't manage /data/data/x folder on second partition (ext2, ext3, ...), only manage /data/app/x and probably others.
Then if you try to move to ext2 partition (link) any app with a lot of data files stored, alll this files din't point to ext2, will remain in internal memory.
For exmaple:
Try to download Google Music app, link this app to ext2 partition. Now in app make ready a lot of file in offline mode. It will store all this temp song files in /data/data/com.google.andorid.music folder.
Now check in Link2SD and with any filebrowser, you will see that this files are always in internal memory because link2SD din't manage /data/data/x to link it to second partition on external sd.
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Now I'll check that once again (I had to buy new SD Card) and you have right. Link2SD move only:
APK File - /data/app/*.apk
Dex files - /data/dalvik-cache/[email protected]*.dex
Libraries - /data/data/*/lib/app_libraries
And other things from /data/data/ stays there. Only libraries are moved from this folder ((
But Its a solution. Just use FolderMount from Google Play It works awesome.