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maybe with imat they will get multitasking and flash

Mods, who do I make a new forum request to. I would like a " I have never used an Apple computer, but I hate them. I have never used an iPhone , But I hate it. I have know nothing about their products or their customer service, but they suck. " forum.
Just so we can consolidate the hundreds of " I hate Apple threads " here at XDA. Or why doesn't XDA just fire up their iphone-developers domain and we can stick them all there.
Apple is a great company, I have been using Apple/Macs for 30 years without a crash or hitch. I have 5 Macs, 2 iPods and an iPhone yet unlike most Windows users I don't feel the overwhelming need to bash M$ every chance.

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Mods, who do I make a new forum request to. I would like a " I have never used an Apple computer, but I hate them. I have never used an iPhone , But I hate it. I have know nothing about their products or their customer service, but they suck. " forum.
Just so we can consolidate the hundreds of " I hate Apple threads " here at XDA. Or why doesn't XDA just fire up their iphone-developers domain and we can stick them all there.
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Wow. I didn't know I had to taste sh*t to know that it's going to taste like sh*t. But yes, I somewhat agree, just because my thread was first! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624356
denco7 said:
Apple is a great company, I have been using Apple/Macs for 30 years without a crash or hitch. I have 5 Macs, 2 iPods and an iPhone yet unlike most Windows users I don't feel the overwhelming need to bash M$ every chance.
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Most of us have a complex that makes us not WANT to like them. So we ride out the put-downs that make us feel better about our loyalty. I don't want to like the Jonas Brothers, so I don't listen to them, turn them off whenever they come on, and make fun of those that like them. I'm sure that if I listened to all of their music, I'd fine at least ONE song I'd like, but then again, I'm also not interested in buying a dozen d*ldos to put up my a** either.

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They won't and you know it.

Very well said rory, especially the sh*t part was awesome
@denco7,
You should take a look at this before you reply further

You may laugh at me, but I actually think the iMat is a good idea. If designed right it could be used in multi-sensory rooms for people with disabilities

Fallen Spartan said:
You may laugh at me, but I actually think the iMat is a good idea. If designed right it could be used in multi-sensory rooms for people with disabilities
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I'm not laughing at you, but I wouldn't think it's a good idea. A large display for sensory needs is different than a large interface for sensory needs. Make the display on the floor and the interface on a 13" panel on the wall, then you have a nice setup.
Behavior Therapist for the DD population 5 years.

Fallen Spartan said:
You may laugh at me, but I actually think the iMat is a good idea. If designed right it could be used in multi-sensory rooms for people with disabilities
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Well if Apple do that they will probably sue The company in the link who made it and thought of the idea!
flyboy

denco7 said:
Mods, who do I make a new forum request to. I would like a " I have never used an Apple computer, but I hate them. I have never used an iPhone , But I hate it. I have know nothing about their products or their customer service, but they suck. " forum.
Just so we can consolidate the hundreds of " I hate Apple threads " here at XDA. Or why doesn't XDA just fire up their iphone-developers domain and we can stick them all there.
Apple is a great company, I have been using Apple/Macs for 30 years without a crash or hitch. I have 5 Macs, 2 iPods and an iPhone yet unlike most Windows users I don't feel the overwhelming need to bash M$ every chance.
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It's as simple as you see another Apple hate thread, DON'T click on it if it makes you butt hurt. No one is forcing you to click on the thread and read the posts.

denco7
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FAIL
Apple blows

rorytmeadows said:
I'm not laughing at you, but I wouldn't think it's a good idea. A large display for sensory needs is different than a large interface for sensory needs. Make the display on the floor and the interface on a 13" panel on the wall, then you have a nice setup.
Behavior Therapist for the DD population 5 years.
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Well yes, I knew it wouldn't work directly, hence why I said it would need to be designed differently, but yes your right

Being an MS person and bashing Apple (or vice versa) makes you feel like you are part of a community, and that people sitting on the fence will just get caught in the crossfire and drawn in at some point anyway.
I personally think that Apple products will continue to become more ridiculous. The iPad is pointless in my opinion. Tablet PCs aren't popular anyway. Next thing they'll probably do is give the iPad some kind of phone functionality!
Aesthetically Apple wins hands down I think, because they look so awesome. Although saying that there are some Android phones that look really really nice, so maybe its a sign that Apple may be threatened in the looks department!

Well, Apple...

Dear Apple,
I was talking to a friend and she solely bought Apple products because they were branded "Apple" despite the ridiculous price and low specs. Call me a hater/whatever but I still don't like Apple for this sole reason.
I saw this in the funnies today from the newspaper and I had to wake up early to post this before school..
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lol!
I agree with you, but there are many more reasons to add
Just wait a bit that off topic addicts see your thread!

I have heard that apple products are getting a new kind of wireless charging system that runs off the smug and hot air coming from the owners mouths!

Awww, the little dog is wearing glasses. Funny strip.
good day.

That's what my whole family does.
Me: I got a new phone.
Aunt: What kind Apple?
Me: No. Samsung Vibrant
Aunt: What is that? I never heard of it. It must not be good since it's not an iPhone.
Me: No. It's better than the iPhone. It's android.
Aunt: Well, it's not apple so it's not GOOD at all.
Blah blah I asked her why the iPhone was so great, she said it's APPLE. blah blah blah.
I hate people that just buys thing because it's the latest trend.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=7680638
Apple customers just like being abused.

I hate apple because the metal on teh side of my ipad is chipped and i cut my thumb on it
The word sue comes to mind

The only reason why apple is so successful is its (blame me for being a hypocrite if you feel like it):
1) propaganda (oh apple is cool and all that crap)
2) amount of dev's coding apps for it
3) low specs (haha), but great software utilization...[one part that htc fails at])
4) (redundant) but it's immense amount of apps.. again..

LOL. Reminds me of the argument I had with my co-worker when I got my Incredible. He was telling me that the iPhone was the best phone out there. When I asked him why, he says because of the nice icons.
I didn't know how to respond but to laugh.
This video is an accurate portrayal of him and a lot of iPhone guys I know. lol

If all the apps ever made for iphone were ported to android , this will create the most humongous market for android any phone company has ever seen ..
Android is the new green guy on the block, give it a year more, the app world will blow iphone away .
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I had to buy a MacBook pro recently, not because its better (although the build and quality is top notch and just about unmatched) but because I needed it for iOS development. I hated how expensive it was for so little spec wise. $400 for the 8GB upgrade WTF! If it wasn't for me requiring OSX, I'd probably never would own a Mac computer.
That said, their phone's are great no matter how you look at it. Antenna **** up aside, most of the drop call blame should squarely be attributed to AT&T. It's a AT&T/US issue.
Now dont get me wrong, I don't blame anyone for hating the US iPhone due to its crappy service because IT IS a legitimate issue. I also don't blame anyone for hating the Apple brand because of it's positioning (style over utility). But when it comes to the iPhone, they got it right.
I was a Palm OS and WinMo user long before all of this, and many of you probably were too. But the original iPhone was such a huge leap forward in terms of what a smart phone user experience should be like. It wasnt as versatile as WinMo but what it made up for in day to day experience was well worth sacrificing some of the utility.
Today iOS 4 has progressed to a state where you pretty much can't complain. The user experience is still top notch and only matched (and maybe even succeeded) by WebOS, and the utility that used to be missing is now there. The phone itself is quality (of course with its issues like almost any other phone). The specs are aggressive, competitive and well priced unlike their other products.
What made the iPhone good is now being matched or exceeded by others (Android/Web OS). But like I said, it has progressed and still is one of the best mobile OSs out there. Hell even the jail breaking community is not much different than what goes on here.
I own both the EVO and a iPhone 4, and if there's one thing that the iPhone still does better, it's giving a amazing experience straight out of the box. I have to spend hours and hours to get the EVO running competively, and I'm still waiting on some things to come through via the amazing developers here, and while I could (and probably should) jail break my iPhone 4, I haven't yet. It runs great as is. And that's a large part of what's keeping the iPhone slightly ahead with non techies.
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Ohhh my Godddd ! :-0
Lol perfect portrayal of the ppl who want iphone. Haha! And don't know why ...
rice247 said:
LOL. Reminds me of the argument I had with my co-worker when I got my Incredible. He was telling me that the iPhone was the best phone out there. When I asked him why, he says because of the nice icons.
I didn't know how to respond but to laugh.
This video is an accurate portrayal of him and a lot of iPhone guys I know. lol
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Why iPhone 4s sells to almost 2 million over the weekend?

How that happened? 2 million or 5 million? If that is true Android is way out of Apple's league.

dude.. it didn't sell about 2 million... iPhone 4S sold more than 4 million units in the first 3 days..
see here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_and_samsung_break_their_own_sales_records-news-3277.php

I have no idea what that first post is even supposed to mean.

Because its a great device that meets and surpasses the needs of many... can't believe that's a serious question. .trollololol.

Why when someone mention iPhone android owner bash them. But clearly iPhone is better than android?

Excellent branding and customer loyalty!
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It's a functional device out of the box. The general population doesn't have the time to root and customize their device and flash ROMs. They don't care about "making it their own". They just want a fast and functional device without any tweaking.
It's a walled garden...sure...but most people don't care.

It sells 2 million in a weekend for many reasons. First. and foremost it has a large fan population, hence a population who are dedicated to the iOS. Two. the delaying of announcement has increased the fan base's anxiety and desire for the iPhone hence sudden burst in demand.
And why do Android users hate iPhone users? From the same reason you think iOS is the best. The same mindless people in both groups. It is the most narrow minded and uninformative statement which shows your level of knowledge and understanding of software or comparing things at hand.
No software is the best, best is dependent on the situation at hand. Yes they may have an advantage over another in certain areas, but it ends there, still a stalemate. You think i should get a cashier or a barcode scanner system for a lemonade stand because it offers the best management system on stock? No im wastingmoney on something I'm only doing today, get the point? f not I'll elaborate even more with my post below. Btw english does not seem to be your first language so I apologize if you cannot understand it.
Oki so now lets put iOS in the hands of someone who knows his way around UIs. Think he's gonna enjoy the simplicity iOS over the functionality of Android? Why not ask the forum if you can't think of the answer.
Now do you think a beginner computer user would prefer android? Judging from your perspective you'd say no, and I completely agree with you. A beginner would not even think of pressing a arrow pointing up or a three row and column square as the app drawer. All from my experience with my friends.
Get the point now?

Because they all are islaves man! There coming to get the rest of the world! Lol
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Because women and children like phones?

BenKranged said:
Because women and children like phones?
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+ 1. Lol
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To circumvent stupidity I'm just reposting the post I made in a similar thread.
Just because you're fanboys doesn't justify blindness... Unless you're blind fanboys and in that case why do you have a touch screen phone?
jokes aside, iPhone doesn't sell strictly by brand. It is a device who's hardware (not internals but aesthetics) are unrivaled aside from a tiny screen. The build quality is superb and doesn't feel like it was haphazardly glued together like HTC devices or like Mattel built them like Samsung devices. The only hardware company that rivaled iphone's build quality is Nokia and they're onboard with WP7. Next, the OS is infinitely more fluid than android. On average an android device on the UI runs around 22-27 fps where iOS is a steady 60 as far back as the 3gs. It's optimized for it's superb hardware and it shows. Next, fragmentation isn't an issue. I can play infinity blade on a 3gs just as well as a 4gs and 2 years in the real world is like a century in the tech world. Overall it is a higher quality product for gaming, media, and basic phone functions. If you only get your phones to mod then android is for you but for quality, WP7 or iOS.
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How that happened? 2 million or 5 million? If that is true Android is way out of Apple's league.
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It's probably due to this...
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I think there are 2 reasons why Iphone 4s sell like hot cakes...
1) Many royal users had been waiting to upgrade their iphone 3GS/4.....that's why Apple miss their Q3 forecast ;-)
2) Steve Job sad news - created some impact also.....
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Arsaw said:
I think there are 2 reasons why Iphone 4s sell like hot cakes...
2) Steve Job sad news - created some impact also.....
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Some impact? It's supposed to be serious dude...
And Steve jobs is like a god and Apple is it's heaven, don't be surprised that there are idiots that formed a cult...
A meteor fell down, and cracks open to send you this message!

It's not really surprising.
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who cares why they sold more. Who cares why they are considered best. Lets allow windows and and android to exist. I have my reasons for preferring android. but lets consider for a moment how many jobs These devices create. Lets also consider the choices the devices provide.
If the iphone and Ios are the best why doesnt every other maker give up. We really only need one phone right. Cases will make them look different and Apple can decide when we upgrade. Sounds like a great idea to me.

Are all iPhone users kind of uppity? My neighbors just upgraded and think their crap smells sweeter than most.

spirikitik said:
Why iPhone 4s sells to almost 2 million over the weekend?
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I'll tell you why. Who cares. That's why.

hey op, why isheep like you trolling around ot?
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iPad mini will defeat Nexus 7 and kindle fire?

Seems iPad mini will release, same 7" with different IOS, it will occupy the tablet market?

chanting said:
Seems iPad mini will release, same 7" with different IOS, it will occupy the tablet market?
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It's like phone, people who don't want customize interface and want friendly os buy ipad, and people who want to do everything possible with a tablet buy android one.
I've got an iPhone and now a nexus 7 and i didn't regret and go back. Apple it's over now

Was that a statement or a question? If it was a question then simply no, unless Apple do something about the price most people will compare the price of that with the price of other tablets in the same area, even then most people take into account screen size, storage size and price only for tablets, if you take screen size out of the equation then unless they lower the price people will generally decide to go with the cheaper product.
Also the Microsoft surface is out soon, yes it's 10" but it will surely steal audience away from the iPad mini if it's actually confirmed.
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No the Mini will not defeat the N7, there a totally different ball game.
As said before the iPad mini will be for those who don't really get what there doing, the N7 is for the enthusiasts who want control over their device.

If the ipad mini ends up being the size that everyone is speculating, it won't(to me) have the portability that the Nexus 7 sports.
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No doubt it will still sell millions even if it's pricy. Because wether we accept it or not, it has Apple logo and branding is what some people only care about.
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Rycon33 said:
No doubt it will still sell millions even if it's pricy. Because wether we accept it or not, it has Apple logo and branding is what some people only care about.
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I agree, but Apple ?

chanting said:
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Of course it will. They are late for the 7" party, but it will be a great success.
But why should that matter? Competition is good. 7" size is perfect for a tablet, 10" is way too clumsy. In a few years time I'm pretty sure that 7" tablets will make up for majority of the sales.

this might be better option for most people
http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news/2012/10/google_nexus_7_named_best_selling_android_tablet/

Who cares? How about we stop being so damn entrenched in our OS? Does it really matter to you if it succeeds or fails? Will your life change in any significant way?
What most interests me is another quality tablet in a crowded space. That should, in theory, force a price war and a spec war. Both benefit consumers.

Why so many Apple comments in the nexus 7 section. I don't want to read about apple everytime I am trying to read about nexus 7
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bmstrong said:
Who cares? How about we stop being so damn entrenched in our OS? Does it really matter to you if it succeeds or fails? Will your life change in any significant way?
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YES
Go Android!
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No offence guys, but I see the ipad mini being a massive hit, in the Australian market especially.
Because of its simple interface and ipad name. And how it syncs with itunes and iphones. That's what apple users want, they don't want customisation, individuality and tweaks like we do.
Although we android users are different to most of the community, some of don't understand how the normal person operates. They don't think to change the look, colours or performance, or to install a whole new interface. All they want is smoothness and usablity. And that is the ipad/iphone, my friends.
My 2 cents, Markj out

markj338 said:
No offence guys, but I see the ipad mini being a massive hit, in the Australian market especially.
Because of its simple interface and ipad name. And how it syncs with itunes and iphones. That's what apple users want, they don't want customisation, individuality and tweaks like we do.
Although we android users are different to most of the community, some of don't understand how the normal person operates. They don't think to change the look, colours or performance, or to install a whole new interface. All they want is smoothness and usablity. And that is the ipad/iphone, my friends.
My 2 cents, Markj out
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You said normal people.....
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tonybhoy said:
this might be better option for most people
http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news/2012/10/google_nexus_7_named_best_selling_android_tablet/
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LOL I wondered for a couple of seconds whether it is u-switch or us-witch :silly:

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You said normal people.....
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I meant *normal* as in the average person. Not saying we are special, but we are not the *normal* population and target of apple devices
Sorry if I offended anyone lol

Meh. Some people will buy it BECAUSE it is an Apple product. I WON'T buy it for the same reason. I own a N7 because it is the best product for my current needs. I also own a TF300T as it is a great budget Android tablet.

This doesn't have anything to do with the Nexus 7
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Your view on bb10?

So blackberry 10 was just released. What are your thoughts on the z10 and the q10?
I think the z10 runs on a snapdragon s4 plus and has 2 gigs of ram with a 720p 4.2 inch display(355ppi). The q10 might have similar ram+processor but i think the screen has a smaller and obviously it wont have as many pixels.
It is definitely capable of competing with some new phones IMO. But that's not why i created this thread. I want to see your thoughts.
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Correction: the Z10 runs on the OMAP 4470. The Q10 shares the same specs sans screen-estate.
I really don't like hardware-whores who are downplaying the Z10 purely based on the OMAP. Which is ironic seeing as how Google phones are a success because of their software. (with the exception being the Nexus 4).
The Z10 could be a success depending on how well they innovate in the OS. When I first heard that unlocking the screen could be as simple as double-tapping: I was impressed in the same way a small rock that ripples can become a large splash in constructive interference. The specs are basically mid-range at this point, but then again, so is the iPhone 4 too (and that has 512 RAM). Difference being that the iPhone 4 still performs as smoothly and gracefully for all its intents/purposes and its audience. I think the Z10 was designed with that kind of mindset. When a phone feels smooth enough, when the phone does everything you need it to do: maybe you but most people won't care what's under the screen.
We're seeing the move away from removable batteries, Micro-SD slots, and smaller screens. Personally, the direction the industry is going (as evident by the Nexus 4) dissuades people like me from upgrading. I don't need a huge-ass 4.7+ screen, I love the comfort and convenience of flash cards, and removable batteries, I definitely like the square-like aesthetics of the Z10 versus the general trend of bar-soaps.
While I'm not in a hurry to get a Z10, I will closely follow the news surrounding it. The BB10 OS is what will really make the Z10 shine but it's a double-edged sword if it subpar: much like the Windows Phones. But so far, feature-wise, I think the Z10 has its bases covered.

I like. Looks like a huge comeback for Blackberry.

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I like. Looks like a huge comeback for Blackberry.
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word. I think Blackberry may be able to pull back some lost ground, but its lost out quite a bit in the past two years.

I will be picking up the Q10 in April.
@billydasco

I quite like the look of it actually but think they're behind the curve as everything else had made such big leaps
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I don't think blackberry gives it's best to compete with the rivals...
With the lack of features like siri, Google now and some important applications...
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Looks like BB has re-arrived. Looking forward to Aicia Keys ads <3

my thoughts on bb10
Seems kinda like i've seen it somewhere before. lol

Its still a BlackBerry.
'Nuff said.
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This is my view.

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This is my view.
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Oh come on. The more competitors the better for the consumer.
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It reminds me of Nokia with Meego with all the gestures and no buttons. Especially the lock screen.

d3faultdotxbe said:
Long live Meego and hardware keyboards! Tempted to say that "touch is a gimmick", but I think the reality is that hipsters will always exist.
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BB was a wonderful device,
now it just looks like a modded version of android,
they should have focused more on business and government consumers rather than the mainstream market

BlackBerry Exchange Server, or BES costing $99 plus fees AND no compatibility with legacy devices is killer. BlackBerry should know better when there are other cheaper options out there. As for the OS, it still feels extremely business oriented which is a great thing. I own a Galaxy S III right now, but I would purchase a Z10 to have as my secondary business phone. It's the right size, the specs don't have to be spectacular as with older versions of the OS it's hardware integrated and it's styling is better than most Android devices out there. I think it will overtake Windows in terms of Market share but won't be as successful as Android or iOS devices.

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Oh come on. The more competitors the better for the consumer.
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New competitors are a good thing. Old ones trying to make a come back will just leave early adopters with unsupported devices. Anyone who really thinks rebranding and 2 mildly competitive flagship phones is enough to save RIM (now Blackberry) is delusional.

063_XOBX said:
New competitors are a good thing. Old ones trying to make a come back will just leave early adopters with unsupported devices. Anyone who really thinks rebranding and 2 mildly competitive flagship phones is enough to save RIM (now Blackberry) is delusional.
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Totally agree.
What will happen to the BB curve my Dad owns?
PREDATOR95 ->->->->a.k.a. ->-> predatOr

Z10 is cool. Anything that helps kill the iPhone is fine with me.
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063_XOBX said:
New competitors are a good thing. Old ones trying to make a come back will just leave early adopters with unsupported devices. Anyone who really thinks rebranding and 2 mildly competitive flagship phones is enough to save RIM (now Blackberry) is delusional.
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I mostly agree with u, but something deep down tells me that the new BBos will be relatively successful, at least enough to keep the brand alive or even more.
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Bb stock has dropped over 80%. This will not save them. bb - byebye
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