Realy sorry for my noob question, I have a locked bootloader
I was researching a bit about the ICS for xperia x8, seeing that only custom roms based on AVD run on stock kernel, because the AVD is based on the same kernel version.
But, isn't possible to adapt the CM9 to run on stock kernel?
Why the CM9 don't have support for X8 on Cyanogenmod website? How developers made Roms based on it?
Moreover, why all the custom kernels are based on version 2.6.29.6? It is impossible or unnecessary to create a custom kernel based on 2.6.32 or up?
Sorry for my bad English.
So ics can't run on stock kernel.Stock kernel miss a lot of components from 3.0 kernel.The kernel is 2.6.29.6 but to have 2.6.32 need to port a lot of stuff so this mean need a lot of time.The nAa kernel's and alfs' kernel is pathed to 2.6.29.6 For now we have ported some components from 32,35,38 and 3.0 kernels.
We do have ics for stock but it is not for daily use. And the development has stopped so don't expect updates/fixes.
As naa said, stock kernel really can't support ics.
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yes ics or jb on stock kernel is impossible and trying to port it is pointless.
We have ics for stock kernel, but gods sake its laggy, buggy. Its not good for daily use. U can find roms like ics. X8 is now old. But u can unlock bootloader by paid method. Next time please search.
Really thanks for your answers.
Interesting, I did not know that the custom kernels had several other superior features.
Actually run on ICS stock kernel is impossible, but there is very buggy roms projects based on avd can i run. What I was wondering is whether it is possible to install the CM9 on stock kernel. I do not think it was just out of curiosity noob ... :laugh:
jucazastrow said:
Really thanks for your answers.
Interesting, I did not know that the custom kernels had several other superior features.
Actually run on ICS stock kernel is impossible, but there is very buggy roms projects based on avd can i run. What I was wondering is whether it is possible to install the CM9 on stock kernel. I do not think it was just out of curiosity noob ... :laugh:
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Yeah. Its possible, check in development section.
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I've tried the only two ics roms for the x8 stock kernel, and I know it's possible to INSTALL, but did not to use, because there are more bugs than fixes.
My doubt is if I can INSTALL CM9 in stock kernel, since I tested these roms are pure android, not CyanogenMod, they are based in AVD, android debug bridge. :fingers-crossed:
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What's stock kernel？？And what's latest kernel?I found the words many times in many threads in this forum.Who can help me.Thank you in anvance.
i dont know the correct term but kernel is the thing that kinda complete a rom. u can open about phone under setting in ur phone to see ur current kernel. that is stock kernel.
some roms require certain kernel to enable the rom to works, n some roms can work properly with stock kernel or optional to use with custom kernel.
there are 3 kernels available now for x8, n the latest is nAa v07, however, note that the latest kernel doesnt means that it will provide the best performance. its just depends on the matter of whether the kernel is compatible or not with the rom
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Kernel is generally drivers in between your rom and your phone hardware..
Stock kernel is the kernel which is installed by default from the manufacture company.
Custom kernels are kernels made by developers to work better of the roms with the hardware..
sorry for bad english
I havent been able to get any of the kernels to work for the stock shipping rom of the phone. Does anyone know of the proper version or are there just none?
lmftmf said:
I havent been able to get any of the kernels to work for the stock shipping rom of the phone. Does anyone know of the proper version or are there just none?
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Most of the kernels that I found built for gingerbread are only designed to work with sense 3.5 and not 3.0. I can't think of any custom kernels that would work for you other than the stock kernel. You really only have a couple of options if you want to switch kernels, find a rom based on gb and use the kernel that goes with it or switch to ics if you can and use a newer kernel.
Well is there a way i could modify my stock kernel to just support over clocking or is it really not practical for a non linux user like myself to just edit some code? lol
lmftmf said:
Well is there a way i could modify my stock kernel to just support over clocking or is it really not practical for a non linux user like myself to just edit some code? lol
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Any kind of kernel tweaking will involve more than a little linux knowledge
I saw a post about swapping zimages. Would that work for this situation? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426499 post #2 he mentions porting to other roms.
it would be nice if primehd and gdx combine i mean a devs of that rom to make a rom for stock ....
sorry for the bad english
kind regards pls just want to share
Gingerdx is alredy for stock!
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PrimeHD is for stock too!
that's the point dude both do have stock incompatibilities and originated to doxah I mean primehd use the gdx doxah work setting..
Maybe he means combined-ultra-super-rom for stock.
rezzen25 said:
that's the point dude both do have stock incompatibilities and originated to doxah I mean primehd use the gdx doxah work setting..
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compatibilities i mean
lokibg said:
Maybe he means combined-ultra-super-rom for stock.
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yes thats the main point ,,,,cause the both do have same goal to make a clean lightweight rom its just to make a fast improvement for our x8 or w8
Prime hd uses shakira source, while gdx is built from hero....
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soumyasree said:
Prime hd uses shakira source, while gdx is built from hero....
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no im not ,, talking about the source but the benefits of what stock rom can achieve if both developers on both side combine! a great rom .,,,
rezzen25 said:
no im not ,, talking about the source but the benefits of what stock rom can achieve if both developers on both side combine! a great rom .,,,
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But you should actually talk "source" as that's the major difference at hand ...
HAKA's PrimeHD (for Stock Kernel) bases upon MiniCM7 while GingerDX, as laid out above, is based on the CM7 HTC Hero source combined with racht's hackDROID as the ROM's base.
HAKA, as he's a developer building from source, already got my permission to use whatever parts of GingerDX he likes to use, and as you can see he actually uses parts of the Cyanogenmod settings package in his stock kernel PrimeHD ROM.
However, since I think it's good, and only benefits the user base, to have a choice of different ROMs NOT being based on the same sources I don't see why we should produce yet another MiniCM7 fork (there are already countless mCM7 knock-offs from an army of c/p "devs") or merge into a single ROM.
In short: each one of us follows his own goal, and GingerDX is only one of three Gingerbread ROMs that are based on a unique platform ... like ... PrimeHD is based on MiniCM7, KuyaDROID spin-offs are based on the HTC Legend sources, and ours is based on the HTC Hero sources. Again: Choice and variety.
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But you should actually talk "source" as that's the major difference at hand ...
HAKA's PrimeHD (for Stock Kernel) bases upon MiniCM7 while GingerDX, as laid out above, is based on the CM7 HTC Hero source combined with racht's hackDROID as the ROM's base.
HAKA, as he's a developer building from source, already got my permission to use whatever parts of GingerDX he likes to use, and as you can see he actually uses parts of the Cyanogenmod settings package in his stock kernel PrimeHD ROM.
However, since I think it's good, and only benefits the user base, to have a choice of different ROMs NOT being based on the same sources I don't see why we should produce yet another MiniCM7 fork (there are already countless mCM7 knock-offs from an army of c/p "devs") or merge into a single ROM.
In short: each one of us follows his own goal, and GingerDX is only one of three Gingerbread ROMs that are based on a unique platform ... like ... PrimeHD is based on MiniCM7, KuyaDROID spin-offs are based on the HTC Legend sources, and ours is based on the HTC Hero sources. Again: Choice and variety.
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I totally agree with you B.Jay
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since Bjay reply about it,, then the q&a is done haha ,,,its my first post in xda so Thank you for the comments,, Cause I'm a big fan of gDX and prime so i just wrote about a suggestion that I hope to happen XD
cause I cant unlock my BL so I have my Gratitude for the devs who continue the development of roms on stock Thank man
Hi, I would like to know what is kernel, and what would it change in the phone, performance and display, i'm a gamer, so i would like a good kernel for games like asphalt 6, FL Commando and And NOVA 6, and how to install it, i'm using Zeus 6.32n
thanks a lot
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I must admit that p970 is not so hard developed yet and as far as im concerned, we havent got any custom kernel for stock-based rom like Zeus. However, Diana kernel (which is used in newest version of Zeus v.36) is best for performance and battery life. As long as someone wont make a miracle, its only-one custom kernel for stock based ROMs.
In addition, it has overclocking and is tweaked for performance, so why do you need other kernel? Try installing newest version of zeus ROM and test if you are pleased with results.
Similar question: So if i install the newest zeus i already have a new kernel on the phone or do i still need to update the kernel? I now have Zeus v7.03 and the kernel version: 2.6.35. Any help is appreciated! Thx
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I must admit that p970 is not so hard developed yet and as far as im concerned, we havent got any custom kernel for stock-based rom like Zeus. However, Diana kernel (which is used in newest version of Zeus v.36) is best for performance and battery life. As long as someone wont make a miracle, its only-one custom kernel for stock based ROMs.
In addition, it has overclocking and is tweaked for performance, so why do you need other kernel? Try installing newest version of zeus ROM and test if you are pleased with results.
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Similar question: So if i install the newest zeus i already have a new kernel on the phone or do i still need to update the kernel? I now have Zeus v7.03 and the kernel version: 2.6.35. Any help is appreciated! Thx
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If you install a newer Zeus Version 6.33 and up you have a different kernel that can use lower and higher frequencies. 2.6.35 is the basic linux kernel, alle Diana kernels have that number too. Up too diana kernel 2.3 it seems to be very stable, after 2.3 the kernels are all betas up till now and well beta is still experimental, for some it works well, for others maybe not. If you install Zeus 7.02 or .03 it comes with a beta kernel, but I'm rather sure you can still install the stable Diana kernel 2.3 after you installed Zeus 7.02 or .03.
BTW all that can be read in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454274 , but OK it might take some time to go read that all, but before you ask more questions maybe you should at least try to read some of that thread (first page and maybe about last 3 weeks).
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If you install a newer Zeus Version 6.33 and up you have a different kernel that can use lower and higher frequencies. 2.6.35 is the basic linux kernel, alle Diana kernels have that number too. Up too diana kernel 2.3 it seems to be very stable, after 2.3 the kernels are all betas up till now and well beta is still experimental, for some it works well, for others maybe not. If you install Zeus 7.02 or .03 it comes with a beta kernel, but I'm rather sure you can still install the stable Diana kernel 2.3 after you installed Zeus 7.02 or .03.
BTW all that can be read in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454274 , but OK it might take some time to go read that all, but before you ask more questions maybe you should at least try to read some of that thread (first page and maybe about last 3 weeks).
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Thx for the information! I did read some of the thread, but as you said it will take some time to read the whole thing
I want to clarify if it ever works in stock kernel? because mine is not possible to unlock bootloader, I want to change my CUSTOM ROM from CM7 to ICS ROM. Many also ask if it ever works on STOCK kernel.
jepoy25 said:
I want to clarify if it ever works in stock kernel? because mine is not possible to unlock bootloader, I want to change my CUSTOM ROM from CM7 to ICS ROM. Many also ask if it ever works on STOCK kernel.
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i dont think nAa will develop stock version
minicm 9,10 on stock kernel is impossible.
Its impossible to run CM9+ with stock ROM. it requires swap(I guess) and some tweaks + libs that requires with custom kernel.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Its impossible to run CM9+ with stock ROM. it requires swap(I guess) and some tweaks + libs that requires with custom kernel.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yes you guess !
Man on stock it's just 165mb of ram,so we can't made cm9 for stock rom! On custom is 184mb!
Sorry bro, if u want ICS for stock kernel,
there is a one, but it has so many bugs. You can try that if u really want.
Good Luck
Sorry dude it wont.....our kernel dont really support ics...so....
NO....it wont..
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If you want rom for stock kernel, only Gb not isc. :<