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PLEASE HELP ME. AT&T is so horable

Ok im almost ready to sue AT&T for how long this is taking. I have spent 5 hr on the phone trying to get my data plan back...
Here is what happened. my 8125 with a 2 year old cingular unlimuted data plan (40$) included tethering and there access to isp.cingular. well my phone died so i went out and got a tilt. i bring it home and i look online and find that the (trying my best not to sware) horable sales men switched my plan to a 10$ more expensive one with out asking me. So then i have to spend time getting my plan back. so they revert it to a 40$ plan but i cant connect to the isp.cingular. i call back, go to there head it person and he says you can get it back. you need to spend 60$ on a plan that supports this. (im thinking you people messed this up, un mess it up) so i kall more times and i get nowhere. all them dont understand me and think im having a problem with wap.cingular even tho i say wap works. i mean i have been using the isp all through out the time i had my 8125 and loved it. now i get a diled isp.cingular. unable to connect.
so what do you think i should do. i have spent too much time on this but i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)

brianmay27 said:
Ok im almost ready to sue AT&T for how long this is taking. I have spent 5 hr on the phone trying to get my data plan back...
Here is what happened. my 8125 with a 2 year old cingular unlimuted data plan (40$) included tethering and there access to isp.cingular. well my phone died so i went out and got a tilt. i bring it home and i look online and find that the (trying my best not to sware) horable sales men switched my plan to a 10$ more expensive one with out asking me. So then i have to spend time getting my plan back. so they revert it to a 40$ plan but i cant connect to the isp.cingular. i call back, go to there head it person and he says you can get it back. you need to spend 60$ on a plan that supports this. (im thinking you people messed this up, un mess it up) so i kall more times and i get nowhere. all them dont understand me and think im having a problem with wap.cingular even tho i say wap works. i mean i have been using the isp all through out the time i had my 8125 and loved it. now i get a diled isp.cingular. unable to connect.
so what do you think i should do. i have spent too much time on this but i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)
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When you got your tilt, did you sign up for a new contract? If not then you should still have your old plan. They are grandfathered in. They CANNOT take it away unless YOU switch your plan. Just be aware that you cannot access 3G with the SIM card from your 8125, you will need a 3G SIM for that.

well i think i did sign up for the 2 year aggrement... but i did get a new sim card. but can they really change your plan with out telling you and make it 10$ more expensive?

Are you sure about that statement? There are no contracts for data plans like there are for voice plans to my knowledge anymore except for a few specialized data plans (most of those like some international data plans are 1yr commitments). Thats why you can add and cancel your data plan at any time without having to pay an Early Termination Fee.
I've gone thru some of my contracts for the past few years and I don't see anything stating any data plans have a commitment form either party. Only Voice.

well i mean i got the two year contract to keep the price of the phone low. (the 100$ off with 2 year contract) so yes it is for voice but the guy changed my data plan for some reason

Yeah this happened to me as well. When I got my tilt they chopped my old plan to hell and back and to get it working right I ended up having to pay more money than on my old plan. Sucked and for some reason it's a hit or miss whether or not I get pictures messages now.

Ok, well i guess i will try my best to have them give me the 60$ plan for 40$... just have to make them feel horable for it

they do it cuz they make commision off u
its in the contract u signed. they lie, cheat.
thats how corporate is though.
just ask them to switch you to a media net unlimited plan $15
tell them u have a regular phone not pda, and ask for the $15 media net unlimited
and teather, but i hear they put a cap on it.
i cant believe any of u guys would pay more than 20 bux for unlimited internet,

stealthj said:
just ask them to switch you to a media net unlimited plan $15
tell them u have a regular phone not pda, and ask for the $15 media net unlimited
and teather, but i hear they put a cap on it.
i cant believe any of u guys would pay more than 20 bux for unlimited internet,
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What about the fact that they are now monitoring the IMEI of the phone you are using and if it is in their database (AT&T Branded) then they'll know he should at least have the $30 plan. (Which is still a lot better than $50)
Anybody know what happens if AT&T figures out you are on the wrong plan? Do they switch you to the $30 plan or try to charge you outrageous fees?
I don't want to tether, and I'm offended that I should have to pay 2x for the same service just because I bought the wrong phone! Maybe somebody will come up with a way to repair our IMEI soon.
This post talks about the automatic device detection at AT&T: http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=10576027&postcount=28

imeihunter said:
Anybody know what happens if AT&T figures out you are on the wrong plan? Do they switch you to the $30 plan or try to charge you outrageous fees?
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One time when i was in the At&t store talking to a rep making adjustments to my plan, he noticed the HIGH data usage and saw that i had a medianet plan and not pda connect on my 8525 (this was about 6 months ago).
He tried to force me to switch to the $49.99 pda connect plan but i just persisted that i bought the 8525 from them with that plan so he let it slide (although it was an imate jasjam and not att's branded 8525 )
BUT he warned me that if i get "Caught", and he said i will, they will charge me per KB which will have the bill break through the roof! But i know if this happens i can just go to the store with my bill and add the pda plan and have them cancel the charges. (i've done this before when i went over my minutes, messages, and kb when i was on a 5mb plan, not unlimitted)
I haven't been caught yet and last week i switched to the unlimited pda data plan for $30 so i'm playing it safe now (but still tethering )
ALso i can not connect to isp.cingular, i thought that was the point of the pda plan. Do i have to call and ask them to allow me to access isp.cingular?

From my experience, wap.cingular is faster than isp.cingular.
I have the $45/mo PDA Unlimited Plan (includes 500 any-type messages), and I tether using wap.cingular. I get 50-100kb/sec download speeds on my laptop when tethered.

imeihunter said:
What about the fact that they are now monitoring the IMEI of the phone you are using and if it is in their database (AT&T Branded) then they'll know he should at least have the $30 plan. (Which is still a lot better than $50)
Anybody know what happens if AT&T figures out you are on the wrong plan? Do they switch you to the $30 plan or try to charge you outrageous fees?
I don't want to tether, and I'm offended that I should have to pay 2x for the same service just because I bought the wrong phone! Maybe somebody will come up with a way to repair our IMEI soon.
This post talks about the automatic device detection at AT&T: http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=10576027&postcount=28
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I just keep changing my phone on AT&T Billing and everything works okay thus far

brianmay27 said:
well i mean i got the two year contract to keep the price of the phone low. (the 100$ off with 2 year contract) so yes it is for voice but the guy changed my data plan for some reason
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oh I do believe that is with their data plan. Your paying $10 more a month for $100 off in 6 months or something.

PDA Connect Unlimited still available, AFAIK
brianmay27 said:
. . . i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)
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Speak to an AT&T rep that knows about this, and cares, and knows the tricks. I suggest Gyngabread Man here on this forum - send him a PM. He got me fixed up properly with the PDA Connect Unlimited plan for $39.95/mo. and I have access to isp.cingular as well as wap.cingular.
Good luck!

brianmay27 said:
Ok im almost ready to sue AT&T for how long this is taking. I have spent 5 hr on the phone trying to get my data plan back...
Here is what happened. my 8125 with a 2 year old cingular unlimuted data plan (40$) included tethering and there access to isp.cingular. well my phone died so i went out and got a tilt. i bring it home and i look online and find that the (trying my best not to sware) horable sales men switched my plan to a 10$ more expensive one with out asking me. So then i have to spend time getting my plan back. so they revert it to a 40$ plan but i cant connect to the isp.cingular. i call back, go to there head it person and he says you can get it back. you need to spend 60$ on a plan that supports this. (im thinking you people messed this up, un mess it up) so i kall more times and i get nowhere. all them dont understand me and think im having a problem with wap.cingular even tho i say wap works. i mean i have been using the isp all through out the time i had my 8125 and loved it. now i get a diled isp.cingular. unable to connect.
so what do you think i should do. i have spent too much time on this but i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)
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Typically if you read the two year agreements or rebate agreements they will say that it's only valid with a specific data and voice plan of at least $X value. That's not uncommon.
As for getting back a grandfathered plan. I know at Sprint, depending on how old the plan was, once it was deprovisioned the system just was no longer capable of reprovisioning it. No matter how much you wanted it to.
My guess is though that you did in fact agree to have your plan changed. They just didn't make it any more clear than they legally have to.

cushcalc said:
Speak to an AT&T rep that knows about this, and cares, and knows the tricks. I suggest Gyngabread Man here on this forum - send him a PM. He got me fixed up properly with the PDA Connect Unlimited plan for $39.95/mo. and I have access to isp.cingular as well as wap.cingular.
Good luck!
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My mistake... I am on the $39.99 PDA Unlimited plan. I was on a strange combination of Data and Messaging plans until I went into an AT&T store to buy a pair bluetooth headphones, and the rep looked at my account and pointed out that I could save money by combining my 2 options into this 1 plan.

this wut i did....i got a crappy phone ( real crappy) not a pda or smartphone and got the data plan 25 bucks i think unlimited internet and text now its 30 cuz i added 5 to get unlimited text and they asked me y do u want unlimited for my phone and said cuz i like it and then i changed to the tilt on craigslist bout mine for 250 and just put my sim with all my data plan and no problems

rico002 said:
this wut i did....i got a crappy phone ( real crappy) not a pda or smartphone and got the data plan 25 bucks i think unlimited internet and text now its 30 cuz i added 5 to get unlimited text and they asked me y do u want unlimited for my phone and said cuz i like it and then i changed to the tilt on craigslist bout mine for 250 and just put my sim with all my data plan and no problems
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That is a cute trick, but you are not the first to think of it. AT&T can tell that your are on the tilt. The browser requests contain information about what OS you are using. You probably are not using ridiculous amounts of data, so they have no reason to look. If they ever do look tho, they will see you are on WM, and they will switch you to the correct plan without warning.

I work for AT&T Tech Support. For the sake of keeping my job i'll call my self BoB.
Anyway you can still tether with wap.cingular as mentioned before. The only way we'd catch you is if you were downloading torrent or excessive amounts of data. We recently changed our data features which I think is retarded.
One thing they don't tell you is that the new Tethering plans which cost money out the ass have a 5GB soft limit.
What this means is that after 5GB of data you have used, AT&T will monitor any usage past the 5gb. The reason for this is so that they could price their data plans accordingly, hopefully for the better but in this world probably will be for the worse.
If you are casually browsing just use internet sharing in your phone to tether. Go to File Explorer-Windows-Scroll down about halfway to Internet Sharing then hit connect.
YOu could also go to wmwifirouter.com and download the app straight from the phone, it turns your phone into a router and you can just tether like that. I think it's ridiculous to charge so much for data. Sprint (even though I would never switch) Has their unlimited everything for 99 dollars, data, gps, voice, tv, etc. That just goes to show you how much unlimited data is actually worth.
Get a 19.99 Medianet Unlimited Plan, 19.99 Unl Messaging and you are set
Just get a RaZR and switch your sim card out, place a couple of test calls, and boom call in to have it changed or go online to make the change. After you have both features on put SIM back into TILT and you're done. I feel so bad when I tell a customer that in order to tether they need a 60 dollar feature. I'd feel insulted if that were me.

Thanks everyone for this help... after reading i guess my new question is what is so different between isp and wap... i thought it was like wap goes through a proxy and is not "THE internet" where as isp is "THE internet". is that right? also i would run a speed test too but well i cant.

question about Media Net with ATT?

Hi, I was wondering how much a data plan with ATT would cost me on a tilt, I currently dont have one and am relying on WiFi most of the time. The reason I initially did not want a data plan is because I thought they started at $40 a month or so.
On ATT's website, they have unlimited Media Net plans starting at $15 a month...is this the same as the data plans most of you guys have? Will I be able to do everything requiring a 3g connection?
Thanks in advance for any help

I use the unlimited media net with 200 text. I can do everything! Don't let them con you into getting the way more expensive PDA service.

I have unlimited media net (max I think) with unlimited messaging ($35/month). I was conned for several months with the persoanl pda bundle ($50/month) until I found out I can use media net max. Live and learn I guess.

moto2000 said:
Hi, I was wondering how much a data plan with ATT would cost me on a tilt, I currently dont have one and am relying on WiFi most of the time. The reason I initially did not want a data plan is because I thought they started at $40 a month or so.
On ATT's website, they have unlimited Media Net plans starting at $15 a month...is this the same as the data plans most of you guys have? Will I be able to do everything requiring a 3g connection?
Thanks in advance for any help
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I am a tech for att. here is the trick, i am assuming you have a tilt, therefore the imei of the tilt is registered with att, so what you will need to do is put your sim in a crap phone (non pda) then call cust care ant tell them that you want media net, make sure your tilt is not registered with att if it is go to a store with your sim in the non tilt phone and ad media net. its that simple. i do it for people all the time because the pda plan and media net has no technical difference just the money...

I been having Media Net for the longest time, proably since they started having it. I been having PDA phones for it for many years as well. With Media net ($15/m) yes you get to use all the 3g connectivity all you want with no problem.

mchapman007 said:
I use the unlimited media net with 200 text. I can do everything! Don't let them con you into getting the way more expensive PDA service.
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that is the package i have and i get charged fo rinternet use... hmmmm

hey i see what your saying. i have the family messaging plan. in my account can i not just put my sim card in my old razr then go to add feature and select the 15.00 media net... will that work or will i need to call them....
thanks

i just added unlimited media net for $15 by calling the after hours center.

rdt1999 said:
hey i see what your saying. i have the family messaging plan. in my account can i not just put my sim card in my old razr then go to add feature and select the 15.00 media net... will that work or will i need to call them....
thanks
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u need to call afterhours center here is the number if you want to call today
866-801-3600

rdt1999 said:
that is the package i have and i get charged fo rinternet use... hmmmm
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I don't, it's unlimited.....

mchapman007 said:
I don't, it's unlimited.....
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me neither...
here's all the data plans they have in my zip..
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...10009&LOSGId=&catName=Data/SmartPhone+Connect
perhaps that 15 buck plan is an old "grandfathered" plan that is not available anymore like the 1000 mins I get for $39 plus rollover since 2003
So tell me again how to get unlimited data for $15 ? Wud b nice

fizzie said:
me neither...
here's all the data plans they have in my zip..
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...10009&LOSGId=&catName=Data/SmartPhone+Connect
perhaps that 15 buck plan is an old "grandfathered" plan that is not available anymore like the 1000 mins I get for $39 plus rollover since 2003
So tell me again how to get unlimited data for $15 ? Wud b nice
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i just got it read previous posts by me

will do thanks for all th info...

I am a sales rep in a AT&T store. On the 15 dollar plan, don't go over 5gb a month. If you do AT&T will charge additional fees and remove your current data plan. They will call before they change your plan.

Already signed up for $40 data plan - Can I "downgrade"
My wife and I each have a Tilt. I have the $40 per month data plan and my wife has no data plan. Is there any way I can "downgrade" my data plan and possibly add a dataplan to my wife's phone to "break even" or possibly even save some money?

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My wife and I each have a Tilt. I have the $40 per month data plan and my wife has no data plan. Is there any way I can "downgrade" my data plan and possibly add a dataplan to my wife's phone to "break even" or possibly even save some money?
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Call ATT, tell them you have a regular phone, like the W580i, and want to downgrade your data to the standard $15 a month MediaNet.

atsitalian said:
My wife and I each have a Tilt. I have the $40 per month data plan and my wife has no data plan. Is there any way I can "downgrade" my data plan and possibly add a dataplan to my wife's phone to "break even" or possibly even save some money?
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do you use text messages?

How is the best way to check to see if your getting close to the 5gb amount,is it on the phone or ?

[email protected] said:
How is the best way to check to see if your getting close to the 5gb amount,is it on the phone or ?
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If you are only browsing on your phone, you are never going to use 5gb a month. That is mainly if you are going to connect it to your computer for the internet.

Hey thanks for the reply well at 15.00 i think ill get the service on my old cell phone and switch over to the tillt,thanks man....

Tmobile data plan help 9.99

Hello
I have been using the 9.99 web2go data plan part of tmobile for about 3 months now and this morning it just stopped working. I wanted to see if it happened to anyone else, and what setting is everyone else using?
i tried:
internet2.voicestream.com
wap.voicestream.com
both didnt work and i tried to use a proxy with the wap.voicestream and didnt work as well
any help would be great!

I'm also using the mobile internet from T-mobile and don't have any isseu's with it.
what you could try is the connection setup maybe it will help. it is located in start>settings>connections

They also nailed me today. THey are forcing everyone without T-mo phones to the 24.99/mo plan. Jerks.

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They also nailed me today. THey are forcing everyone without T-mo phones to the 24.99/mo plan. Jerks.
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i figured thats what they were doing... hm.. going to call them when i get off work and see whats going on....

commodoor said:
I'm also using the mobile internet from T-mobile and don't have any isseu's with it.
what you could try is the connection setup maybe it will help. it is located in start>settings>connections
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whats ur configurations, that you are using??? because i believe i tried everything that i know of and its not working for me...

Mine internet was setup automaticly witch connection setup
the settings of t-mobile internet looks as followd
General tab:
T-Mobile internet
Moden tab:
T-Mobile internet
Acces point name: Internet
The user name and password is empty
Proxy settings tab:
there is no proxy
could i aske you where you live. maybe its a local problem.
but if i'm must be honest the mobile internet of vodafone is much much better than the on of t-mobile. i used them both and the vodafones was much faster. but thats my experiance. now i'm using the 15 euro internt plan from t-mobile it is a little bit faster thatn the 10 euro.

Here in US, we need to put a Access Point name, but they want everyone to use the 29.99 plan, but there was a loop whole where you can use another plan but still get unlimited internet, but it seems that isnt happening anymore for some people ; (
commodoor said:
Mine internet was setup automaticly witch connection setup
the settings of t-mobile internet looks as followd
General tab:
T-Mobile internet
Moden tab:
T-Mobile internet
Acces point name: Internet
The user name and password is empty
Proxy settings tab:
there is no proxy
could i aske you where you live. maybe its a local problem.
but if i'm must be honest the mobile internet of vodafone is much much better than the on of t-mobile. i used them both and the vodafones was much faster. but thats my experiance. now i'm using the 15 euro internt plan from t-mobile it is a little bit faster thatn the 10 euro.
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thran8 said:
Here in US, we need to put a Access Point name, but they want everyone to use the 29.99 plan, but there was a loop whole where you can use another plan but still get unlimited internet, but it seems that isnt happening anymore for some people ; (
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So it was like an exploit , and its now fixed

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So it was like an exploit , and its now fixed
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Not at all. That used to be the case, but then there was a legitimate $9.99 internet/messages plan. It was just a $9.99 plan for a half-ass edge connection, which I was okay with. But they are trying to force us up to $24.99, STILL for a half-ass edge connection (because X1a can't connect to USA T-mobile 3G). I say we boycott.

my 4? dollar whatever it is plan still works haha. I've had this thing for like 6 years? 7? and mine still works fine.

Yes, my 9.99 tmobile data plan stopped working too just last night, called tmobile and they are positive that it's due to the upgrade of their pricing, 9.99 plan no longer work, at least for smartphones, to browse the whole web. they are pushing a 24.99 or even 34.99 plan. We say we boycott too!

that soo stupid... i havent called yet, but ill call later today and see what they say

T mo told me since i had a phone not from their network i would have to get the 24.99 data plan and the old one wouldnt work anymore. then seemed as if they were relectant to remove the 9.99 data plan. Whats the deal with that? i didnt change the rules you did!

I am in the same boat. Called and they say I have to pay $24.99. This sucks and I just joined tmobile.

I went online and canceled my 9.99 plan, and now I'm thinking of switching to AT&T 39.99 /mo + pay per MB ($2 per MB) internet. Then I would only use the internet if I absolutely need to. Unfortunately it's only 450 minutes/mo (but with rollover). Anyway, there's no way I'm going to spend $75 / mo for EDGE on T-mo. Ludicrous.
I hope others also ditch T-mo; this was a really underhanded thing they did, especially since we never got any kind of warning.

i may do the same thing, i havent had time to call them and complain about this

Good news, mine started working again today, this morning

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I went online and canceled my 9.99 plan, and now I'm thinking of switching to AT&T 39.99 /mo + pay per MB ($2 per MB) internet. Then I would only use the internet if I absolutely need to. Unfortunately it's only 450 minutes/mo (but with rollover). Anyway, there's no way I'm going to spend $75 / mo for EDGE on T-mo. Ludicrous.
I hope others also ditch T-mo; this was a really underhanded thing they did, especially since we never got any kind of warning.
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i pay 15 dollars for my unlimited data with att ... im so loving this 3g.

I agree, same here, but did you check with tmobile again to confirm that they didn't automatically move us to the 24.99 price? That's the case I'm worried most. But I highly doubt it is so.

I am using T-Mobil's 9.99 TWeb plan and everything works great except for MMS i can receive picture messages but i can't send them. its very weird i didn't have that problem on my Htc Tilt. so i don't know if its a window mobile issue. it seems since i have been using flashed roms with 6.5 i have been having problems. i am going to flash back to original ROM and see what happens. if anyone is having the same issue please let me know, i really don't want to go back to Original rom!!

Any US Users on MediaNet since the "tablet fix"?

I am guessing this will show up as a smart phone on ATT now and require the Smart Phone $15 200MB plan. I use about 800MB a month. Not sure another $10-$15 is worth 600MB of Carrier data, I like the idea of not having to worry about data use JIC.

tbong777 said:
I am guessing this will show up as a smart phone on ATT now and require the Smart Phone $15 200MB plan. I use about 800MB a month. Not sure another $10-$15 is worth 600MB of Carrier data, I like the idea of not having to worry about data use JIC.
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You may run into issues using the $15/month plan honestly. I know that AT&T is able to see that the N7000 is a smartphone, so you could well be hassled for that and possibly automatically "upgraded" to a smartphone data plan.
Unfortunately, AT&T no longer honours upgrading unlimited data if you're coming from the old $15/month medianet plan, so it'd have to be a tiered plan.
Now, having said all that, there's still the GoPhone option that some people have taken. Basically, $50 a month for unlimited everything, pay-as-you-go.

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You may run into issues using the $15/month plan honestly. I know that AT&T is able to see that the N7000 is a smartphone, so you could well be hassled for that and possibly automatically "upgraded" to a smartphone data plan.
Unfortunately, AT&T no longer honours upgrading unlimited data if you're coming from the old $15/month medianet plan, so it'd have to be a tiered plan.
Now, having said all that, there's still the GoPhone option that some people have taken. Basically, $50 a month for unlimited everything, pay-as-you-go.
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Thanks...That is what I was afraid of. IF I even used 1.9GB of data it would be worth it. But I am caught in the middle. Over 200MB under 1GB Maybe I cam port both device numbers to the GoPhone. We are paying about $100 a month for both phones with 750 minutes UL data and no messaging plan. (we use FB messaging and GoChat) Can't imagine how we could get unlimited everything for $50 each or why it would be less expensive....on a pay as you go plan except for the fact that we don't need subsidized phones.

If you don't mind paying for a backup phone, you can get a refurb Nokia E71 on Straight Talk and be on AT&T network with unlimited everything for $45/month. Their unlimited data is not truly unlimited but there is a safe threshold of 100MB/day. That particular device (E71) comes with an unlocked sim card that can be used in the note with the correct APN settings, whereas a lot of their devices come with a sim that is locked to the device. I have been using the plan for almost two months now myself.
If you do this it is important to activate and use the service on the E71 to make sure there aren't any kinks, probably a few days at least, before migrating the sim to the note. If you have problems with the service, be sure to move the sim back into the E71 before calling support.

beestee said:
If you don't mind paying for a backup phone, you can get a refurb Nokia E71 on Straight Talk and be on AT&T network with unlimited everything for $45/month. Their unlimited data is not truly unlimited but there is a safe threshold of 100MB/day. That particular device (E71) comes with an unlocked sim card that can be used in the note with the correct APN settings, whereas a lot of their devices come with a sim that is locked to the device. I have been using the plan for almost two months now myself.
If you do this it is important to activate and use the service on the E71 to make sure there aren't any kinks, probably a few days at least, before migrating the sim to the note. If you have problems with the service, be sure to move the sim back into the E71 before calling support.
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This is exactly what I plan on doing- waiting to pick my e71 up from UPS after winter session exams are over. I'll report on results.

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This is exactly what I plan on doing- waiting to pick my e71 up from UPS after winter session exams are over. I'll report on results.
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Saw those packages at Wal Mart.$45 unlimited everything. I m guessing its the same MediaNet plan and APN I am already on with the SGS II Last speedtest run was 2.8MB DL. 520K up. Not bad for MediaNet.

tbong777 said:
Saw those packages at Wal Mart.$45 unlimited everything. I m guessing its the same MediaNet plan and APN I am already on with the SGS II Last speedtest run was 2.8MB DL. 520K up. Not bad for MediaNet.
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I range from 1-4Mb DL, usually steady 1Mb UL. Some get higher, it depends on area I guess. My requirement was that most Youtube videos don't need to buffer for more than a second or two, so I'm more than happy with the result.
I don't think its the same APN, but that doesn't mean that the APN isn't 'treated the same way' so-to-speak.
At the end of the day, it's a great plan- the only reason I'm not on MediaNet I guess is that I didn't want to have to root and delete my EFS folder to guarantee being 'safe' (at least while my warranty is still available after all the trouble I went arranging for it).
It's also interesting to note- I have yet to actually power on the E71- I just removed the SIM and microsd. It looks like a nice 'backup phone' that I will use while I lifeguard during the summer (beach weather killed the old Iphone 3G)

TMobile $30 5GB plan DOES NOT WORK on Nexus 7 GSM!

Got my SIM card yesterday from T-Mobile.com
Got my Nexus 7 GSM today.
Cut up my full sized sim to fix into micro sim slot. Worked fine.
Inserted SIM into tablet. Got signal. So far so good.
Nexus 7 doesn't have Phone.apk or MMS.apk on launcher.
Fired up Wi-Fi, went to go Play Store.
Installed Go SMS Pro.
Set up my sim card online. Activated with $30 100 minutes, UL txt, 5GB plan.
Had to retry "nearest city" options and zip codes, but eventually got it to work.
Got my SMS notification on my tablet saying account is good.
Refilled for a month.
Got my SMS notification of the refill.
Setup a T-Mobile account with my prepaid number. All good.
0KB used.
Reboot tablet. I get "Sign into network" which is a html redirect page.
Every page redirects to sign in page. Can never sign in.
Research online.
Turns out it's detected as a tablet. IMEIs are apparently flagged by T-Mobile.
BAH!
I'll root and mess around my /efs/nv_data.bin and reboot back, but so far :-/
Edit: No /efs folder

CLShortFuse said:
Got my SIM card yesterday from T-Mobile.com
Got my Nexus 7 GSM today.
Cut up my full sized sim to fix into micro sim slot. Worked fine.
Inserted SIM into tablet. Got signal. So far so good.
Nexus 7 doesn't have Phone.apk or MMS.apk on launcher.
Fired up Wi-Fi, went to go Play Store.
Installed Go SMS Pro.
Set up my sim card online. Activated with $30 100 minutes, UL txt, 5GB plan.
Had to retry "nearest city" options and zip codes, but eventually got it to work.
Got my SMS notification on my tablet saying account is good.
Refilled for a month.
Got my SMS notification of the refill.
Setup a T-Mobile account with my prepaid number. All good.
0KB used.
Reboot tablet. I get "Sign into network" which is a html redirect page.
Every page redirects to sign in page. Can never sign in.
Research online.
Turns out it's detected as a tablet. IMEIs are apparently flagged by T-Mobile.
BAH!
I'll root and mess around my /efs/nv_data.bin and reboot back, but so far :-/
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That really sucks.
While I'm probably going to go with the $15 AT&T plan, the $30 TMO plan you referenced sounds like a perfect one for people who want a lot of data, SMS capabilities and some minutes for light talk usage. I was hoping it would work. Have you tried talking to T-Mobile about it?
Thanks for sharing. Hopefully there is a solution.

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That really sucks.
While I'm probably going to go with the $15 AT&T plan, the $30 TMO plan you referenced sounds like a perfect one for people who want a lot of data, SMS capabilities and some minutes for light talk usage. I was hoping it would work. Have you tried talking to T-Mobile about it?
Thanks for sharing. Hopefully there is a solution.
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I have the $15 AT&T plan (actually $10 unlimited) that I'm using for my Galaxy Note 10.1. I would try swapping around but the sim sizes are different. I'm pretty sure that TMobile will say that the Nexus 7 is a data-only device and won't let me do it.
Google has stripped WiFi tethering, MMS and Phone from the device and I'm sure it's no coincidence.

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I have the $15 AT&T plan (actually $10 unlimited) that I'm using for my Galaxy Note 10.1. I would try swapping around but the sim sizes are different. I'm pretty sure that TMobile will say that the Nexus 7 is a data-only device and won't let me do it.
Google has stripped WiFi tethering, MMS and Phone from the device and I'm sure it's no coincidence.
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"Stripped" might be too strong a word.
The non-3G versions never had any of those functions. I think it's more likely that they simply chose not (or forgot) to include them in the 3G version.
SMS actually does work, but inbound only (according to rumors) by default. But you can apparently use an SMS app to do outbound fine. There is another thread discussing the phone mod. Apparently a framework change can enable it, but no one has been able to test whether it works or not yet to place calls.
I imagine it would be trivial for a developer to add tethering support, though I don't see the need personally. Most people only care about tethering a non-3G tablet to a phone, not the other way around.
What $10 AT&T plan? Is that the "share your data" plan or an independent pre-paid one?
I don't need a lot of data, but I want to be able to have some if necessary. I also don't want to pay too much for it. $15 seems reasonable, but $10 is better - assuming I don't already need to have a phone with them.

Did you register your sim to N7 IMEI or normal phone IMEI? Wonder if that makes a difference.

Did you ensure the APN was what phones use for data rather than tablets/modems? Tweakker on the market will set it for you if you are unsure.

isosunrise said:
Did you register your sim to N7 IMEI or normal phone IMEI? Wonder if that makes a difference.
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I did all 1s a couple of times but I when I successfully activated I used the N7 IMEI and changed the "nearest city" option. I strongly doubt that was the issue since other people who have this problem with the TMobile branded Springboard say the SIM works on other devices. I can't test this since I have no other device (tablet or smartphone) that takes microSIM.
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Did you ensure the APN was what phones use for data rather than tablets/modems? Tweakker on the market will set it for you if you are unsure.
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I checked them all manually. They were a little different than standard APNs (had a masked password and server field), but I modified them. I was still redirected. I'm pretty sure it's IMEI detection. I'll try it anyway. Edit: Tweaker is not supported on Play Store. I'll have to search for the APK

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I checked them all manually. They were a little different than standard APNs (had a masked password and server field), but I modified them. I was still redirected. I'm pretty sure it's IMEI detection. I'll try it anyway. Edit: Tweaker is not supported on Play Store. I'll have to search for the APK
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wow operators starting to b a-holes eh?

Look for Tweakker with two k's

When I try to install Tweakker from the store, Google Play reports that it is not compatible with my N7. (I did upgrade it to 4.2.)

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"Stripped" might be too strong a word.
The non-3G versions never had any of those functions. I think it's more likely that they simply chose not (or forgot) to include them in the 3G version.
SMS actually does work, but inbound only (according to rumors) by default. But you can apparently use an SMS app to do outbound fine. There is another thread discussing the phone mod. Apparently a framework change can enable it, but no one has been able to test whether it works or not yet to place calls.
I imagine it would be trivial for a developer to add tethering support, though I don't see the need personally. Most people only care about tethering a non-3G tablet to a phone, not the other way around.
What $10 AT&T plan? Is that the "share your data" plan or an independent pre-paid one?
I don't need a lot of data, but I want to be able to have some if necessary. I also don't want to pay too much for it. $15 seems reasonable, but $10 is better - assuming I don't already need to have a phone with them.
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On any AT&T family plan with shared unlimited messaging, you can add unlimited data for $10 on dumbphones. If you don't have shared unlimited texting then it's $15/mo per dumbphone
Also, TMobile will let you use your voice plan package if you accept to pay an additional $15/mo to use "Mobile Broadband" which is using it on data-only devices (laptops/tablets)
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Look for Tweakker with two k's
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Can you download it from the app store and upload the apk?

I'm confused. You put your SIM card into the device after cutting it down and once you booted it up, you had signal? You saw the H and everything? But you could not access tmo's data network immediately? But then you logged into the play store with wifi?

adamhlj said:
I'm confused. You put your SIM card into the device after cutting it down and once you booted it up, you had signal? You saw the H and everything? But you could not access tmo's data network immediately? But then you logged into the play store with wifi?
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That's correct. I've already been shuttling a cut-down T-Mobile SIM between devices. When I have the SIM in the Nexus 7, I get a 3G or an H, but then when I try to make any web requests, I get redirected to My T-Mobile. (In addition, Android prompts me with a "Sign into network" item in the notification area.) I can log back into My T-Mobile with any browser, but that doesn't accomplish anything.
I then connect to the Play Store over WiFi but it won't let me download Tweakker.

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That's correct. I've already been shuttling a cut-down T-Mobile SIM between devices. When I have the SIM in the Nexus 7, I get a 3G or an H, but then when I try to make any web requests, I get redirected to My T-Mobile. (In addition, Android prompts me with a "Sign into network" item in the notification area.) I can log back into My T-Mobile with any browser, but that doesn't accomplish anything.
I then connect to the Play Store over WiFi but it won't let me download Tweakker.
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Had you activated that sim card before on another phone? I am curious if you can activate it first one a phone, say a One S because it uses the micro sim, maybe thats all it needs? Hmm...

adamhlj said:
Had you activated that sim card before on another phone? I am curious if you can activate it first one a phone, say a One S because it uses the micro sim, maybe thats all it needs? Hmm...
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Yes. I've been using the SIM with an adapter in a Galaxy Nexus and an unlocked iPhone 4S just fine, and I have it happily getting data in my Galaxy Nexus as we speak.

smerrill said:
Yes. I've been using the SIM with an adapter in a Galaxy Nexus and an unlocked iPhone 4S just fine, and I have it happily getting data in my Galaxy Nexus as we speak.
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Thanks guys for letting us know that Tmobile has blocked this. I kind of expect this since they have been cracking down...on the switching SIMS between different devices types.
Specially with them in touch with google on Nexus 4 and also were preparing to partner with Google to sell the Nexus 7 3G with a Tmobile SIM (like Google is doing with ATT) according to some leaked Tmo news pictures..., We should have expected this already.
It was a few months back they blocked the opposite: using data broadband plans SIM in unlocked phones like Nexus. We used to be able to do that.
Still it's unfortunate. Thanks for saving me to try the same and be stucked with a SIM i can not use effectively. To the OP; you can still use the micro SIM in a regular device without an adapter. You just need to position it right and may be try a couple times. I did not this until I saw somebody do it. Since then if I have cut a sim, I can still use it without an adapter. Just make sure you position it right....by try and error...or by inserting a regular SIM and picking up where the metal needs to touch the phone.
For all if you really want Tmobile...you can use the Special Walmart plan...which gives 60 days if you buy the $35 or $50 plans. To a point it may be equal or better deal than the 5gig $30.....depends if you do not use too much data...you can use: $35 for 3.5 gig for 60 days....or $50 5 gig for 60 days.
That's the way I may go or I may go the way of Ultra Mobile MVNO which is coming up with pay as you go @ 4.9 cents per mb in January. This is expensive but it's 4g hspa+ pay as you go to use only while needing fast data in areas where no wifi is there or my freedom hotspot has reach is fast 500 mb limit or no Clear coverage is being picked up.
We should also try to see if Tmobile is doing the same blocking while using MVNO....plans. If that's the case then the above Ultra plan won't help. In order to get better data deals we would need Voice/data plans from mvno..But that in itself is not useful unless we're able to enable both voice...and data on 3g nexus. Ultra has plans with data or voice only while data costing 2 cents per mb. Or Straightalk/Net10 $45 plans if only the voice can also be enabled.
MVNO do not usually have good deals on data only plans.
On the other side ATT broadband plans are interesting for 3gb for $30. Not quite 5 gig but better coverage.

nashi20002003 said:
For all if you really want Tmobile...you can use the Special Walmart plan...which gives 60 days if you buy the $35 or $50 plans. To a point it may be equal or better deal than the 5gig $30.....depends if you do no use too much data...on your use: $35 for 3.5 gig for 60 days....or 5 gig for 60 days.
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Can you share some more info on this plan?
I just signed up for the AT&T $15 30day/250MB plan. But this sounds a lot better!
I'm generally around Wi-Fi, so don't need a ton of data. But I'd rather pay (effectively) $15/month for 2-2.5GB then 250MB.

phonic said:
Can you share some more info on this plan?
I just signed up for the AT&T $15 30day/250MB plan. But this sounds a lot better!
I'm generally around Wi-Fi, so don't need a ton of data. But I'd rather pay (effectively) $15/month for 2-2.5GB then 250MB.
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well......doing some reading I got this from Walmart....Not good news. Now I understand why when I switched my SIM from a USB stick device bought at Walmart to a USB stick sent by Tmobile it kept blocking me and redirecting me as with the OP.... It took multiple support calls to Tmobile tech reps...to no avail. Until the recreated my account with free data posted to it and with the regular 30 days limit. They told me I could switch back to the Walmart special at the end of the month...but never was able to get it done....I ended up selling the USB stick....so it seems there's IMEI checking on SIM activated with the 60 days specials....so this won't help on Nexus 3G
Access 4G Internet on the go with the T-Mobile $35 Prepaid Mobile Broadband Pass. It offers 3.5GB of data usage and is good for 60 days only at Walmart. Pass is only eligible on broadband devices purchased at a Walmart after 6/1/2012. The pass includes no activation fee, no annual contract, no credit check and no overages. And it works with any new T-Mobile Laptop Stick or mobile hotspot purchased at Walmart. If you regularly surf the web, check email and update your social network, this card is a good choice.
T-Mobile $35 Prepaid Mobile Broadband Pass (Email Delivery):
Provides 3.5GB of data usage
*Good for 60 days
No activation fee, annual contract, credit check or overages
Works with any T-Mobile Internet device
*60 day pass is only eligible on broadband devices purchased at Walmart after 6/1/2012

THis pretty much sums up how I feel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYwWKEc8c88
Ironically, as soon as I posted this, I got the shipping notification at 3 AM CST. But Im still sad about the tmo thing not working

I had hoped that I could use my 3g Nexus 7 on the $30 tmobile plan. I was thinking of registering on the plan when I traveled. I guess the only hope is that someone figures out a work around or tmobile offers a decent data plan. At least, I was primarily planning to use 3g overseas.
It looks like I will be teathering my N7 for for data when away from wifi. This is a pain. In addition, I could have waited and ordered my 3g N7 from B&H Photo and avoided shipping and tax.