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HOWTO allow UMTS, HSDPA - Disable GPRS connection

Hallo friends, I'm a newbye here.
I've got a little big problem and I'm asking you to help me.
In Italy H3G, my mobile operator, sells one internet flat in UMTS and HSDPA mode. This is because H3G hasn't got GSM antennas and the roaming connection costs 2€/MB (3$).
Can I disable the gprs allowing the 3G and 3,5G only? I'm becoming crazy
Thanks to you all,
Dario

Phone, Menu, Options, Band, WCDMA/UMTS only.

unwired4 said:
Phone, Menu, Options, Band, WCDMA/UMTS only.
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Thanks unwired4 but I need to recieve the GSM calls (they are free of charge).
I need only to block GPRS internet traffic. Any other suggestion?
Bye,
Dario,

modaco nodata.
my device is 2g only, but i'm pretty sure it has seperate connections for gprs/UMTS/HSDPA and whatnot

fzzyrn said:
modaco nodata.
my device is 2g only, but i'm pretty sure it has seperate connections for gprs/UMTS/HSDPA and whatnot
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seems it doesn't have separated connections... :-(

I have the same problem
up! Really interesting! I have the same problem!

You cant block diff data based on GSM or WCDMA or (2.5G or 3G). I can see at the moment only option is to make it UMTS.

Thats a shame... been looking for a solution to this problem also. Due to the structure of the data packs on my carrier, blocking roaming data and allowing the rest would be the perfect application for many users to avoid excessive usage charges.

flux76 said:
Thats a shame... been looking for a solution to this problem also. Due to the structure of the data packs on my carrier, blocking roaming data and allowing the rest would be the perfect application for many users to avoid excessive usage charges.
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I am in support for this project and willing to donate if someone will take up the task

ravsingh said:
I am in support for this project and willing to donate if someone will take up the task
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I too.
I have also started using visual studio 2008. Any suggestion for create one ad-hoc application will be appreciated.

Hi all,
I'm another Italian H3G user and got the same issue!
I'm ready to donate together with others if anyone will pop out with a working solution for that project!!!

So what you guys are asking for as no-data when only when on GSM.
Since data is automatically part of the standard (as much as asking your hands to feel cold and not heat), it could be "interesting" to try to keep flipping it on off.
Closest behavior would be if you're on 3G voice call and it locks out data only when it flips to GSM.

I am guessing here, but something worth looking at for an example may be like the TF3D Weather. In Settings, it has an option to tick "Download Weather when roaming". As far as I know, if you don't tick this, it won't download when you are roaming, only when your on your home network.
So a similar feature for all data. In other words, don't download when on Roaming. At other times, ok to download.

flux76 said:
I am guessing here, but something worth looking at for an example may be like the TF3D Weather. In Settings, it has an option to tick "Download Weather when roaming". As far as I know, if you don't tick this, it won't download when you are roaming, only when your on your home network.
So a similar feature for all data. In other words, don't download when on Roaming. At other times, ok to download.
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That's right.

flux76 said:
I am guessing here, but something worth looking at for an example may be like the TF3D Weather. In Settings, it has an option to tick "Download Weather when roaming". As far as I know, if you don't tick this, it won't download when you are roaming, only when your on your home network.
So a similar feature for all data. In other words, don't download when on Roaming. At other times, ok to download.
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Great, Flux, you've got the exact point here!

BTW: I found an application -which does in effects many, many other useful things- but it can explain what we're looking for: phoneAlarm
It seems it can stop data connection depending on many parameters.
For our pourpose, it would be enough if data connection gets disabled when not connected to the home network!

UP!.......

lol i'm italian too and i have the same problem

andrea89g said:
lol i'm italian too and i have the same problem
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phoneAlarm doesn't go. It doesn't block EDGE (2,5G gprs) traffic. :-(

ziotegolina said:
phoneAlarm doesn't go. It doesn't block EDGE (2,5G gprs) traffic. :-(
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That's very strange!
If you lookk at the phoneAlarm product page (link) where the new v2.0 [build 278] features are described and search for the 7th element in the features list, you can read:
- Data completely disabled per profile (for roaming etc.)
This should mean that, when roaming, no data connection is made available and this is exactly what we need! (not paying for data roaming when H3G has no service and the phone swithes to TIM).
I thoutgh it worked...

3G Connection Issues on CM 4.2.7.1

I am having a very strange issue:
Whenever I am at home, and my G1 is connected via 3G, I cannot use data or make/recieve calls. If I enable the "Use only 2g networks" checkbox, it reconnects via EDGE and works perfectly. I currently have a service request out with TMO which should resolve in the next 24-48 hours, but I was wondering if anyone had heard of this issue.
TMo has no idea why I'm not getting signal, the problem continued even when I reverted to stock "Cupcake".
Things I've tried:
Reverted to stock firmware and unrooted phone (Didn't work; same symptoms)
Call T-Mobile, they removed and re-added me to network. (Didn't work; same symptoms)
Swapped SIM card at T-Mobile store (Didn't work; same symptoms)
T-Mobile service request in my area (Results pending)
Things I am going to try, but haven't yet:
- Return to stock firmware, reinstall CM 4.2.7.1
- Try an older CM like 4.2.4 or 4.2.5
- Connect to WiFi for data connection, see if this replicates the problem as with 3G
- Enable data roaming.
The fact that it only happens at home leads me to believe it's not a problem with the phone, however I'm more than willing to do more to rule it out.
Phone Specs
T-Mobile G1
Firmware Version 1.6
Baseband Version 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I
Kernel Version 2.6.29.6-cm42 [email protected]
Mod Version CyanogenMod 4.2.7.1
Build Number DRC83

Dont tell T-Mo that your rooted thats a big mistake right there, that can be used against you if you ever have to get the phone replaced.Play around with the apn settings and make sure "always on 2G" isnt checked in settings. Maybe your house isnt in the small 3G coverage area, or your phone cant connect to it. Why would you think data and talking at the same time would be possible? Its either you answer or you stop browsing the web.

Ace42 said:
Dont tell T-Mo that your rooted thats a big mistake right there, that can be used against you if you ever have to get the phone replaced.Play around with the apn settings and make sure "always on 2G" isnt checked in settings.
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Yes, thank you, I know not to tell them that, they have zero idea. I also forgot to mention they did swap out my SIM card at the store.
Read what I posted. Turning on "Always On 2G" is the ONLY WAY I can make calls and use data at home. When that isn't on, the phone says it has a 3g connection with four bars, but will not dial out, take calls, or connect to web pages. I've also verified my APN as epc.tmobile.com which is correct, and this affects my voice and data communications.

deviant749 said:
Yes, thank you, I know not to tell them that, they have zero idea. I also forgot to mention they did swap out my SIM card at the store.
Read what I posted. Turning on "Always On 2G" is the ONLY WAY I can make calls and use data at home. When that isn't on, the phone says it has a 3g connection with four bars, but will not dial out, take calls, or connect to web pages. I've also verified my APN as epc.tmobile.com which is correct, and this affects my voice and data communications.
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Try another rom to confirm you cant get 3G, it could also be HW failure.But just try a older cyanogen or something else.Ive cant get a 3G signal with cyanogen roms for long but with a hero rom i seem to get 3G(maybe its my imagination)

Ace42 said:
Try another rom to confirm you cant get 3G, it could also be HW failure.But just try a older cyanogen or something else.Ive cant get a 3G signal with cyanogen roms for long but with a hero rom i seem to get 3G(maybe its my imagination)
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It fails on both stock (untouched, unrooted), and CM. I'll try an older CM just in case though.

deviant749 said:
It fails on both stock (untouched, unrooted), and CM. I'll try an older CM just in case though.
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Ok post results when you finish.

Ace42 said:
Ok post results when you finish.
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Rebooted phone between each of these tests:
3G With WiFi enabled: Same result, can't dial out.
Data roaming enabled, Wifi Disabled: No signal at all, 0 bars with "X" symbol.
Stock firmware: 3G won't dial out, forcing 2G works.
Downgraded to CM 4.2.4: Same symptoms.

Ace42 said:
Dont tell T-Mo that your rooted thats a big mistake right there, that can be used against you if you ever have to get the phone replaced.Play around with the apn settings and make sure "always on 2G" isnt checked in settings. Maybe your house isnt in the small 3G coverage area, or your phone cant connect to it. Why would you think data and talking at the same time would be possible? Its either you answer or you stop browsing the web.
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What ! if you have 3G coverage you can talk and access data at the same time.
That is what 3G provides.

rdfry said:
What ! if you have 3G coverage you can talk and access data at the same time.
That is what 3G provides.
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I only get edge sorry, i know when i had Evdo(sprint) i could do both things.Just stay with edge then, youll save a lot of battery life.

Ace42 said:
I only get edge sorry, i know when i had Evdo(sprint) i could do both things.Just stay with edge then, youll save a lot of battery life.
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That's not what I'm trying to do! When I am at home, on a 3G connection, I cannot do ANYTHING. That includes text, voice, data, web, ANYTHING. If i force it to use Edge, all services work properly. This is not acceptable. T-Mobile's coverage map lists me as in a strong 3G area. It SHOULD work.

I dont know what to say, except stay on edge, you alreadt sent a req to tmo.

I am having the exact same problem. Would love to learn what you found out.

wCDMA Milestone (mod)

Doing this will boost call QUALITY & response time between the tower and your phone. It also seems to cut alot of the background noises as well.
1. open dialer
2. *#*#4636#*#*
3. change GSM Auto (prl) to wCDMA preferred.
4. click Enable QXDM SD Log
5. SMSC: -refresh, then long hold update.
6. Scroll to top, run ping test...
7. Once done, hit HOME.... NOT BACK!
if you run into any issues, swap back to GSM-Auto (prl) then update your SMSC number again. By default it loads as GSM-Auto, so if you reboot, you will have to swap it again.
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Ive been running like this for around 10 days now and & definitely notice a good gain in call quality, not only in response time, but clarity as well. I don't get any background static and outside wind/other noise seems to drop as well also.
-Leave me feedback and let me know what you think if you try it.

Is this working fpr European Phones (in my opinion Germany) too?

gmbhneo said:
Is this working fpr European Phones (in my opinion Germany) too?
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I have EUR version of XT720 and using it with T-Mobile USA; I tried that method, it works.

Ph0z3 said:
Doing this will boost call QUALITY & response ti
1. open dialer
2. *#*#4636#*#*
3. change GSM Auto (prl) to wCDMA preferred.
4. click Enable QXDM SD Log
5. SMSC: -refresh, then long hold update.
6. Scroll to top, run ping test...
7. Once done, hit HOME.... NOT BACK!
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1-2-3 no problem
4_ I dont have that option anywhere
5_refresh Ok , but log hold update doesnt change anything ??????
6-7 no problem
I dont really feel any difference . ill tell you in a couple days
also there must be a way to set this on boot or make this persistant , I noticed if you go back in that menu and use back to exit it will also revert changes to default ...

gmbhneo said:
Is this working fpr European Phones (in my opinion Germany) too?
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yes it is. like i said, if it doesnt, change back... no harm done.
DAGr8 said:
4_ I dont have that option anywhere
5_refresh Ok , but log hold update doesnt change anything ??????
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4. Not all phones will... it varies with service.
5. should automatically update, if nothing pops up saying it saved... skip it.
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I noticed if you go back in that menu and use back to exit it will also revert changes to default ...
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thats why i said USE HOME... NOT BACK. Also im looking at the radio file to figure out a boot sequence to make this permanent, once i get it solved, ill post it.

Ph0z3 said:
thats why i said USE HOME... NOT BACK. Also im looking at the radio file to figure out a boot sequence to make this permanent, once i get it solved, ill post it.
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ok I know this is confusing but what I meant is if I apply the changes . then hit menu . I do some testing and then I go (again) in *#*#4646 etc etc , even if I dotn do anything and I just hit 'back' it will reset the settings ...
btw got my first compliment today someone said my phone sounded louder then usual 9normally its the otherway aroud ppl say its not loud enough ...

Did it and the network xhanged from GPRS to HSPA will test it and report here
Sent from my Milestone

Im sure ill get it at some point or another.. so here is it...
WHAT IS wCDMA... and why is it better than GSM?
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wCDMA (Wideband Code-Division Multiple Access), an ITU standard derived from Code-Division Multiple Access (CDMA), is officially known as IMT-2000 direct spread. wCDMA is a third-generation (3G) mobile wireless technology that promises much higher data speeds to mobile and portable wireless devices than commonly offered in today's market.
wCDMA can support mobile/portable voice, images, data, and video communications at up to 2 Mbps (local area access) or 384 Kbps (wide area access). The input signals are digitized and transmitted in coded, spread-spectrum mode over a broad range of frequencies. A 5 MHz-wide carrier is used, compared with 200 KHz-wide carrier for narrowband CDMA.
Summary:
1.WCDMA is a 3G technology while GSM is a 2G technology
2.GSM is slowly being phased out in favor of CDMA
3.GSM is still more widespread than CDMA
4.WCDMA and GSM uses different frequency bands
5.WCDMA offers much faster data speeds than GSM
6.WCDMA would soon replace GSM

It's stated in this thread that it's non-dangerous as you can just reboot the phone / change it back. I'll just pop in here with a word of caution: I couldn't.
I have received a significant increase in speed and response time on my data connection since performing this change. I've received significant performance/quality on my conversations over the phone. I can still receive SMS's, however I can no longer send any...
When I attempt to change it back it's already on "GSM auto (PRL)", and I can no longer get the "Enable QXDM SD Log" button when changing to "WCDMA preferred".
I've attempted to change back by ignoring the step that included the "Enable QXDM SD Log" button, but to no avail.
I've attempted to re-flash GOTs 2.2.1 as that should include the most partitions of any flashable ROM, and I had hoped it re-wrote the radio. Apparently it did not.
I basically have a looong night of debugging ahead of me Such is the nature of modding.
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My phone is a UK Milestone, one of the first models. I am not sure of the technical term for the model.
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Solved it.. The SMSC number was set to 5p41450522.
After some time I found the SMSC (SMS center - responsible for sending SMS on the network) number from my provider. For TDC in Denmark it's +4540390999.
Pressed UPDATE and home button.
NOTE: For non-english phones the menu is translated, and as such the 2 buttons next to the SMSC field may be named the same. The left most button is UPDATE, the right most button is REFRESH. Some languages tend to translate those two words to the same.

The default setting, GSM auto (PRL), will switch to wCDMA when there's a load on the network connection. That is, with a call, a download, or something similar, the phone will accomplish exactly what's been done manually.
The difference is that with this setting, the phone will almost always prefer 3G, meaning you won't have the benefit of using the less power-consuming connection when there's very little load. There has to be almost no traffic for it to step down to 2G.
It won't affect call quality, and if it does, I'm going to go out and state that it's simply a placebo effect. Regardless of which setting you choose, call quality will be the same, as both will have the phone switch to 3G during a call anyways.
One thing you may notice, though. With it set to WCDMA preferred, you may notice a less reliable data connection, and perhaps some dropped calls if you're not in an area with good 3G coverage. GSM auto will prefer 2G network when reception is low, helping to ensure you stay connected.

jlor said:
Solved it.. The SMSC number was set to 5p41450522.
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Glad you got your issue solved.
xslntx said:
One thing you may notice, though. With it set to WCDMA preferred, you may notice a less reliable data connection, and perhaps some dropped calls if you're not in an area with good 3G coverage. GSM auto will prefer 2G network when reception is low, helping to ensure you stay connected.
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This is not an issue to me, because ATT is the dominant force here in the south KC metro area, I always have solid signal!

Tag, I did this to see if it fixes my SMS problem.

Thanks to your "wonderful mod" sending SMS didnt work anymore. Make sure you put in the correct SMSC number of your SMS Service Center!

I can no longer send any txt messages after applying this mod, I did a factory wipe and still can't. Any way to revert this?
Took me a while to find the telus SMSC number: +16475800172

gmbhneo said:
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yes it does

here are two that I found:
t mobile +2063130004
at&t +13123149810
sorry to any issues you may have recieved whole doing this... but as always, full nandroid back- ups should be done before adding a new mod. yeah I realize I said there was no harm if this didn't work out, so I'm sorry for that.
Anyways just google for "(your carrier) SMSC address" then correct it if you are having issues.

Bad signal battery drain? Any way to force 3G over LTE?

My phone is sitting next to me at work. Barely using it, but it's just draining, at an alarmingly quick pace.
I have bad reception at my desk at work in LTE. As you can see from the pic, it's constantly looking for signal. Is it normal to create such a battery drain in that scenario?
I used to force my older android device to use 3G. Any way to do that? I don't see that option under mobile networks as I had in my older phone.

Go into your settings app, then into more, then into mobile networks, then change preferred network type from LTE to 3G.

I don't have that option, unfortunately. I had it on my old phone which was running a custom rom, but not on the at&t moto X.

Deactivate WiFi in not used, it makes a difference in gsm reception

neocryte said:
I don't have that option, unfortunately. I had it on my old phone which was running a custom rom, but not on the at&t moto X.
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Try going into the dialer, hit *#*#4636#*#*
To menu, phone info, scroll down to LTE/GSM Auto and choose wcdma preferred.
I have the normal menu on the XT1092, so I can't say for sure it'll work for you.

Shadowdancer123 said:
Try going into the dialer, hit *#*#4636#*#*
To menu, phone info, scroll down to LTE/GSM Auto and choose wcdma preferred.
I have the normal menu on the XT1092, so I can't say for sure it'll work for you.
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Thank you. I also grabbed an app called "4G Switcher" which does basically the same thing (allows you into that menu without using the dialer). I currently have it set to "GSM Auto" - does that accomplish the same thing? It's definitely not on LTE, as Speedtest indicates ~5 MBps download speeds, and the icon says "4G" instead of "4G LTE." How is WCDMA different from the GSM setting?

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Deactivate WiFi in not used, it makes a difference in gsm reception
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Thanks - my WiFi is always off.

neocryte said:
Thank you. I also grabbed an app called "4G Switcher" which does basically the same thing (allows you into that menu without using the dialer). I currently have it set to "GSM Auto" - does that accomplish the same thing? It's definitely not on LTE, as Speedtest indicates ~5 MBps download speeds, and the icon says "4G" instead of "4G LTE." How is WCDMA different from the GSM setting?
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WCDMA is the European standard for 3G, speeds up to 30Mbps.
When saying GSM you generally mean 2G/EDGE. 0.12 Mbps(?)
But I don't know all of the settings in that menu, there are many that will probably lock you out of some bands you might want.
You should experiment and see what you get.
WCDMA preferred is what I've used for the past several years on android phones, this Moto X is the first where LTE is actually useful. =)
The "low" bandwidth LTE (800/900mhz) uses less power than 3G mode here.

Shadowdancer123 said:
WCDMA is the European standard for 3G, speeds up to 30Mbps.
When saying GSM you generally mean 2G/EDGE. 0.12 Mbps(?)
But I don't know all of the settings in that menu, there are many that will probably lock you out of some bands you might want.
You should experiment and see what you get.
WCDMA preferred is what I've used for the past several years on android phones, this Moto X is the first where LTE is actually useful. =)
The "low" bandwidth LTE (800/900mhz) uses less power than 3G mode here.
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Got it, thanks. WCDMA mode seems to give me better signal, so we will test with that one. Will report back with how this performs at work, hopefully helps the battery life.

I have much better signal at work with wcdma compared to LTE. But battery still seems to drain quick. I'm at 6 hrs off battery with just under 1 hr SOT, and at 60% already.

Screenshot. Android OS and System seem go be taking a lot too.

neocryte said:
My phone is sitting next to me at work. Barely using it, but it's just draining, at an alarmingly quick pace.
I have bad reception at my desk at work in LTE. As you can see from the pic, it's constantly looking for signal. Is it normal to create such a battery drain in that scenario?
I used to force my older android device to use 3G. Any way to do that? I don't see that option under mobile networks as I had in my older phone.
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Your problem is not bad signal but an app which keeps your phone awake, unfortunately it's rather difficult to hunt down on kitkat and above without root, the only way is to start uninstalling apps until the problem disappears.

Hmm, I have very few apps installed actually, and just Facebook and Gmail syncing. Are there any apps that can help identify the drain (GSam?)?

Don't look further, Facebook is known to be one of the worst android app for android
http://www.cnet.com/news/whats-killing-your-battery-androids-top-10-performance-sapping-apps/

Judge584 said:
Don't look further, Facebook is known to be one of the worst android app for android
http://www.cnet.com/news/whats-killing-your-battery-androids-top-10-performance-sapping-apps/
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Hmmm interesting. I'll try uninstalling Facebook and repeating the experiment tomorrow at work, just to see if it drains slower. I wonder if auto-sync can accomplish the same thing instead of removing it entirely, but will try this way first. Going to take off a few other unnecessary apps as well, and will install GSam to see if it helps identify anything.

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Hmmm interesting. I'll try uninstalling Facebook and repeating the experiment tomorrow at work, just to see if it drains slower. I wonder if auto-sync can accomplish the same thing instead of removing it entirely, but will try this way first. Going to take off a few other unnecessary apps as well, and will install GSam to see if it helps identify anything.
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I had that before, it was the Moto app for me.
Go to google play, search for the term "motorola" straight up, and click your way through the updates that are available.
If you have never done this, there's a sensor firmware update and some other goodies.
After updating everything, go into the app "Moto" and clear cache and data, now re-run this and set up your stuff.
After this android os and system is always lower than cell standby.
And there's the usual GPS setting, go into GPS, and disable it fully.
Don't allow google to use passive mode, set it to "Device only"
ed, I have facebook installed but every single notification disabled.
It still runs a bit in the background, but not nearly as much. Not enough for me to notice a battery drain at least.

Shadowdancer123 said:
I had that before, it was the Moto app for me.
Go to google play, search for the term "motorola" straight up, and click your way through the updates that are available.
If you have never done this, there's a sensor firmware update and some other goodies.
After updating everything, go into the app "Moto" and clear cache and data, now re-run this and set up your stuff.
After this android os and system is always lower than cell standby.
And there's the usual GPS setting, go into GPS, and disable it fully.
Don't allow google to use passive mode, set it to "Device only"
ed, I have facebook installed but every single notification disabled.
It still runs a bit in the background, but not nearly as much. Not enough for me to notice a battery drain at least.
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Shadow, that's very helpful - thank you. I had a lot of updates to do, and as you said a sensor firmware update. I disabled a couple Motorola things like Connect, Help, and Spotlight Player - but I do use Actions, Voice, etc. Updated everything, cleared data and cache, will see today how the battery performs.
Yep my GPS is set to device only, and interesting feedback on Facebook. I will keep it off the device today for testing but do want to put it back on as I use it on a regular basis.
Thanks again, will report back with my findings.

BTW how did you figure out it was the Moto app?

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BTW how did you figure out it was the Moto app?
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Actually, I wanted to kill the always on voice activation, it bugged out and wouldn't let me disable it after I switched back to Swedish system language, I was testing the voice recognition in english a few days.
So I wiped it, and suddenly my system and os battery drain dropped like a rock. =)
I have even enabled car detection and all the sensor stuff in the Moto app, except voice obviously, and it doesn't affect the battery any more.

Shadowdancer123 said:
Actually, I wanted to kill the always on voice activation, it bugged out and wouldn't let me disable it after I switched back to Swedish system language, I was testing the voice recognition in english a few days.
So I wiped it, and suddenly my system and os battery drain dropped like a rock. =)
I have even enabled car detection and all the sensor stuff in the Moto app, except voice obviously, and it doesn't affect the battery any more.
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Ah gotcha. I thought all that voice stuff was supposed to have a side processor that drained no battery! How did you turn all that stuff - disable in settings or disable app entirely? I don't need any of it either, just want to make sure the Moto Display and hand gestures still work.

Verizon range extender problems

Anybody else on Verizon using a Verizon brand extender? A search found one other old thread but no definitive fix. The one proposed fix was to set the phone to 1x speed to force it out of hunting for towers outside and hope that 5.1 fixed the problem. I just got my phone from Verizon, it came out of the box with 5.1, so it would seem they didn't fix it. And I can't seem to find how to set it to 1x. Only from global to LTE. I'm dropping calls, having problems with texts, and Verizon support admitted it doesn't seem that my calls are going through the extender. They said the 6 should be perfectly capable of utilizing this extender. My note 3 worked perfect on it, and as far as I know the wife's note 4 does as well. I get the beep like it's calling through it, just not the signal. And this phone doesn't have a separate icon to show if it's connected, intermittent, or never recognizing it. Is this a known issue and I just didn't search properly? Running 5.1 LMY47E, bone stock. I warrantied the phone, same thing. So this thing is literally about an hour out of the box, no mods. Looking forward to rooting and running some roms but I'd like to know I've got any issues ironed out before hand. That way I'll know any future issues are rom related, not hardware
TIA

Unfortunately there is no fix unless Verizon decides to somehow upgrade the software/firmware of the extender. I'm surprised that Verizon tech support didn't inform you that the extender is not capable of utilizing 4G or enhanced network capability and can only function with 3G or less. I spent a bit of time on the phone with tech support and requested a problem ticket be raised to Verizon engineers to get a definitive answer -their response was that the extender can not do 4G but only 3G. The way I was able to get my Nexus 6 to successfully connect was to turn the "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" off and then it was able to connect. This is not a nexus 6 issue only but from what I've seen is any phone that has that enhanced 4G setting - my wife's Iphone 6 is also unable to use the extender unless that phone capability to use 4G/LTE is turned off. Surprised you even got the beep as never of our phones get that connection beep unless the 4G/Enhanced switch is off.
I'm surprised (maybe not) that Verizon continues to sell the same Network Extender even though it no longer works with the new network capability or with phones that use that technology. Also brought that up with them during my call but of course that wasn't addressed. I also got no information as to any plans to upgrade the extender firmware but I'm assuming the lack of info speaks loudly.
Again one can never be assured of whether the information they provided me is accurate or no so if you find out differently please post back.
Also, my Nexus 6 is rooted and I have tried numerous ROMs and the ROM makes no difference so that isn't going to fix the issue.
Hopes this helps a bit.

chameo53 said:
Unfortunately there is no fix unless Verizon decides to somehow upgrade the software/firmware of the extender....
Again one can never be assured of whether the information they provided me is accurate or no so if you find out differently please post back.
Also, my Nexus 6 is rooted and I have tried numerous ROMs and the ROM makes no difference so that isn't going to fix the issue.
Hopes this helps a bit.
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This helps a ton, thanks! I've always known that the extender didn't support anything above 3g, but it's never been an issue since my router took care of data and 3g was plenty for calls and texts. But I was thinking it had something to do with this... I haven't researched any of this new stuff about xlte or whatever it is but I know it seems the phones are changing to support some mods to the network. I haven't paid attention because my town is usually the last to receive this sort of technology. Big cities were going to 4g soon after we upgraded to 3g...
Can you tell me if the pic below is the menu that you used? I can't find any setting anywhere else that specifically says 3g, to try to force it into a mode that the extender understand.

you can dial #48 and the phone will tell you if you are under network extender coverage

The setting that needs to be disabled is on the same screen where you set the preferred network type (actually under the one you are displaying). It should be the next setting following the Preferred network type. It actually has a slider to turn on or off. Now, I'm not running stock but I believe it should be the same or very similar on stock.
Not on my phone or i'd try to include a screenshot. Hope this helps.
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you can dial #48 and the phone will tell you if you are under network extender coverage
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that detail. The Verizon tech had me do this. It actually told me I was connecting through the extender. And the call seemed relatively clear. But I could hang up and immediately dial my voicemail or some other number, get the beep from connecting through the extender, but the call would be spotty and cutting out badly. And the tech was confused by this because it wasn't showing on his system that I was connecting through the extender even when the #48 said I was. Strange things going on with this...
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The setting that needs to be disabled is on the same screen where you set the preferred network type (actually under the one you are displaying). It should be the next setting following the Preferred network type. It actually has a slider to turn on or off. Now, I'm not running stock but I believe it should be the same or very similar on stock.
Not on my phone or i'd try to include a screenshot. Hope this helps.
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I'm not typing on my phone either, to include a screenshot. But I'm looking at it. The option directly under Preferred network type (which I have changed back to the default Global), is System Select. The subtext under that says "Change the CDMA roaming mode". And within the menu, the two options are "Home only" and "Automatic", of which Automatic is the default. Is this what I'm looking for?

Do you have Advanced Calling activated on you phone? Not sure if that is the issue or not but on your Verizon Wireless account you should see Advanced Calling (I believe that is what it is called) under "Manage Products. & Aps" - you should have the option to add it to your account. It is a free service but as I understand it you need to include it on your account for the phone to use Volte and it might not show up in settings if it is not an active service on the phone. Again, I'm only guessing here since I'm not on stock but I do believe I've had the option since I got the phone and I added HD calling right after I completed the pre-order.

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Do you have Advanced Calling activated on you phone? Not sure if that is the issue or not but on your Verizon Wireless account you should see Advanced Calling (I believe that is what it is called) under "Manage Products. & Aps" - you should have the option to add it to your account. It is a free service but as I understand it you need to include it on your account for the phone to use Volte and it might not show up in settings if it is not an active service on the phone. Again, I'm only guessing here since I'm not on stock but I do believe I've had the option since I got the phone and I added HD calling right after I completed the pre-order.
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I will log on in a bit and look. So are you suggesting that I enable it, or disable it? Is it believed that HAVING this feature is what is killing the link to the extender? Sorry for the dumb questions. Like I said, I've never had to look into the new tower technology before because I don't anticipate getting it in my area. I never thought about it still affecting my service anyway, even though we weren't getting it... figures.

For me to use my extender the 4G enhanced/LTE needs to be disabled. What I don't know is whether that setting shows up on the phone if the Advanced Calling isn't active on the account. If it doesn't show up there might be no way to disable it. I know it sounds somewhat illogical but again
I'm guessing to some extent given that I have it on mine and I really think it has been there from the start.
Sorry I can't be definite with it.