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LO2X will defeat SGSII with gingerbread? i'm not sure at all! =S

I'm just hungry....
What phone is better? a lot of people say, the optimus 2x just need gingerbread to "kill the SGSII" but....
On some youtube videos, shows, the O2X can't play 1080p flash fluently... and that was very disapointing....
Can you give me a clear ( no fanboy ) opinion.
thanks to all

nothing's better than SSGS2 at this moment

tomeu0000 said:
I'm just hungry....
What phone is better? a lot of people say, the optimus 2x just need gingerbread to "kill the SGSII" but....
On some youtube videos, shows, the O2X can't play 1080p flash fluently... and that was very disapointing....
Can you give me a clear ( no fanboy ) opinion.
thanks to all
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Hmmm not sure about Gingerbread yet. But since LG's working very hard on it (judging from the delays) I would believe they would have came out with something good. As for now, we can still actually beat the SGSII's processor optimisations, exynos may look better on paper but on software, its the Tegra 2 that wins due to all the tegra games out there. But seriously, its not good to compare now, the O2X haven't even got the Gb update yet, I tried CM7 on my O2X and found it to be surprisingly smooth and multi touch responsive, Gb could be one of the reasons why the SGSII is so smooth. Let's not give up hopes on LG give them a chance

maybe they ain't working hard, they might be drinking some coffee while reading newspaper.... who knows ...

lws803 said:
Hmmm not sure about Gingerbread yet. But since LG's working very hard on it (judging from the delays) I would believe they would have came out with something good. As for now, we can still actually beat the SGSII's processor optimisations, exynos may look better on paper but on software, its the Tegra 2 that wins due to all the tegra games out there. But seriously, its not good to compare now, the O2X haven't even got the Gb update yet, I tried CM7 on my O2X and found it to be surprisingly smooth and multi touch responsive, Gb could be one of the reasons why the SGSII is so smooth. Let's not give up hopes on LG give them a chance
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yeah.,hope Lg will provide GB in near future..
i love my o2x

According to androidworld.nl the optmimus one gb update should arive in a couple of weeks and we have to wait another 2 or 3 months
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we just have to wait ..

This is stupid... Why would their best phone users wait to GB, while the low-end phone gets it?
Anyway, 1080p doesn't lagg on my phone at all.
But I don't think it'll ever beat SGSII, unless the GB software is so amazing, and optimized.

Since the sgs2 costs about 100 euro's more than the O2x, i don't expect it to be faster. But they're both bloody fast, so does it really matter?
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Based on what they have done with 2.2 I wouldn't count my chickens!. What makes you think LG will do better with 2.3?.
LG are CRAP with software, no matter what version they bring out.

I have owned both and went back to the o2x. Here are my reasons.
Build quality, the o2x is a far superior device. It feels great in the hand and materials used give a much nicer feel. The gsii is plasticy.
Size, the gsii was too big for me for one handed use. The o2x is slimmer which makes one handed use perfect.
Screen, obviously the gsii has a great screen especially in direct sunlight but the o2x has a better than average so this is no problem.
Speaker, important for me. With volume+ app o2x is just as loud as the gsii's good speaker. Without it i found the o2x too quiet so this was a great find for me.
Performance, both have great processors and more than anyone needs today. Performance around the phone, apps and browsing web for everyday use I could not notice the difference.
Camera, both great. Video capture is better on the Samsung.
Ui, I use custom rom's and don't like either out of the box. If I had to choose one I would go with the LG. Its closer to stock android.
Battery life is much the same as both will need a charge every day.
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as long as they don't screw up like with the leaked G2x gingerbread, all the power will be with the custom ROMs ... so please LG, release proper HALs and drivers for 2.3 userspace.

but i love O2X, i think her dessign is beautyfull!!!
And the SGSII it's cool, but plasticy....
Tegra 2 is better on Games ( GPU ) and Exyros is better on powerhorse ( CPU )
I have readed, the Optimus 2X at the same clock, clock per clock, O2X is faster.
Thanks for all those answers

I've got a friend with the sgsii and it's nice, gb really makes the difference. However, tegra 2 is the way to go for gaming and he's had issues with some games not running at all.
End of the day, horses for courses. Up to you and your budget. Pick the manufacturer you prefer
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b3spok3 said:
I've got a friend with the sgsii and it's nice, gb really makes the difference. However, tegra 2 is the way to go for gaming and he's had issues with some games not running at all.
End of the day, horses for courses. Up to you and your budget. Pick the manufacturer you prefer
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I also use my phone a lot for gaming and the O2X just blows away the SG2S in this department.
My main use is for web browsing and with miren on both My optimus renders faster and less stuttery when flash is on the page than my mates SG2S.

I am very happy with my 2X even thought all items except games rendering beats SGSII. My only hope is that more developers use Tegra SDK to develop games and maybe even application. Make full use of the 8 cores in the GPU you know what I mean... Haha...

O2x will beat in graphics processing. However, normal processing / graphical display = SGII.
O2x the biggest and most common flaw of all is the random reboots / SOD. Without this flaw, this phone would have been perfect. I personally got this problem and I got a replacement.
In terms of performance on GB, who knows? in terms of hardware, SGII > O2x EXCEPT for the Nvidia Tegra 2. So if you're talking about optimizing O2x, then SGII also could be optimized, hence, beating O2x.

kelvin_tan said:
O2x will beat in graphics processing. However, normal processing / graphical display = SGII.
O2x the biggest and most common flaw of all is the random reboots / SOD. Without this flaw, this phone would have been perfect. I personally got this problem and I got a replacement.
In terms of performance on GB, who knows? in terms of hardware, SGII > O2x EXCEPT for the Nvidia Tegra 2. So if you're talking about optimizing O2x, then SGII also could be optimized, hence, beating O2x.
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Actually, the SGS2 has already been optimized in some area, the most obvious and most talked about is the Browser. But who cares if SGS2 beat O2X in many areas, the thing that matter is I love my O2X! Haha!

when is this a battle??

LO2x cant beat SGSii... twice as large ram, imho better CPU... but on the other hand...why did you buy LO2x over SGSii? I did, coz it costed me 60% of sgsii price... and i dont regret it

Problems Summarized ? Buy or Not Poll !!

Hello Everyone,
I recently sold off my Vibrant and was looking at LG Optimus 2X as my next stop
However alot of people have discouraged me from buying this cell looking at the BSOD and other bugs but i still have a feeling that this phone is worth it because of low price and very good hardware.
As you guys are using it, it will be best if you can tell me about your experience with this phone which can help me make a decision.
I am getting this phone for like 325$ slightly used in Canada or 220 Pounds from UK.
Just write your Experience in this way:
Pros : Tell what in your opinion makes this phone preferred over others.
Cons: Please Explain the Problems here as thats the main cause stopping most of people from getting this shiny thing Explain it like:
1) Problem + How frequently you encounter this? + Has there been any fixes ?
I will be very thankful to all the community here using LG Optimus to tell us more about this Phone and take out any misconceptions about this phone If any
Thanks guys
EDIT: I made a simple poll to summarize the views of whole community in a quick glance

Well :
pros : cheap, tegra, IPS screen
cons :
-2.2, maybe no update to 2.3
-very very very bad drivers (aka baseband), implies :
Double core but cant install one single app without huge lags (even symbian is faster), probably due to bad scheduling
Reboots, freezes and random lags : more or less fixed
3G signal loss, even on perfect coverage, wifi error.
.....
Well, you just need to NOT buy it
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Pros
1. Dual Core Tegra 2
2. 8mp Camera
3. 1080p video recording and playback
4. HDMI Out
5. Cheap
Cons
1. No gingerbread update yet
Unlike other users I haven't come across any issues such as the BSOD, no freezes or auto shut offs.
I got the O2X last June and immediately update it to LG version 10c, most users have experienced better performance with this update but some have reported that it didnt fix anything.

Pros: cm7
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If your here because you like putting custom roms on esp cm7 then the o2x is about the most perfect phone you could have.
If you want it working out of the box, then whatever lg did to this phone, they need shooting.
Me, I love cm and therefore only bought this phone because it was being supported
To have cm7 on a phone with a gorgeous 4inch ips screen, tegra dual core processor, 8mp camera with 1080p video recording, that's not made out of cheap plastic like samsungs phones, like I said about perfect lol
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mintvilla said:
If your here because you like putting custom roms on esp cm7 then the o2x is about the most perfect phone you could have.
If you want it working out of the box, then whatever lg did to this phone, they need shooting.
Me, I love cm and therefore only bought this phone because it was being supported
To have cm7 on a phone with a gorgeous 4inch ips screen, tegra dual core processor, 8mp camera with 1080p video recording, that's not made out of cheap plastic like samsungs phones, like I said about perfect lol
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Agree.........

Is the Modaco FR19 a good option instead of CM7?
CM7 is not a option for me since the lack of A2DB.

mintvilla said:
If your here because you like putting custom roms on esp cm7 then the o2x is about the most perfect phone you could have.
If you want it working out of the box, then whatever lg did to this phone, they need shooting.
Me, I love cm and therefore only bought this phone because it was being supported
To have cm7 on a phone with a gorgeous 4inch ips screen, tegra dual core processor, 8mp camera with 1080p video recording, that's not made out of cheap plastic like samsungs phones, like I said about perfect lol
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Yea ofcourse for someone like me who keeps flashin new roms i nvr stick to the stock stuff. For me CM 7 > Stock for me
And i am hoping with the upcoming GB update things may get even better right ?

Pros:
Really cheak compared to the hardware it has (comparing it to an SGS2).
Awesome official Dev support. From Cyanogen, to Paul of Modaco, to MIUI, to Supercutio.
I have not experienced those BSODs. And I'm on a slightly modified stock ROM.
Cons:
None really. I'm sure GB will come. We all need to just wait.

Pros:
- Good Hardware, as others stated, average battery life(im saying average cause most android phones last a day)..
- CM support( that alones gives it a ton of +)
- Good Camera
- Ips Screen
Cons:
- LG
- LG drivers
- LG Updates(no gingerbread till now) :

I'd says it's best to wait until GB update until buying. or for LG to fix BSOD and other issues.
Afterwards it doesn't really matter cause u can rely on devs rom for future updates
and the O2x is constantly getting cheaper, atm it is like $430 delivered on ebay compare to other dual core phones it is quiet good value for money

Somewhat same!!!
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I guess seeing the fact that Majority of people think its worth it and only a minority is frustrated over it i think i would take a gamble and buy it off ebay and see whats ma experience with a hope that some day LG will fix its drivers lol

Yeah go for it great phone, and for the people who voted for SUX ! Dont ever buy it . they probably dont even own the phone

Pro :
- have many rom mods,specially cm7
- with good price u'll have android powerhouse
Cons :
- basically none if u use the right rom
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if you can get a sgs2 or sensation for the same price, go get one of those, if not, the O2x will be the best option, install cm7 on it and it will be even better
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No Problems for me..... everything works fine.
My Device is a really new one...maybe newer Devices have no problems with bsod ?
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Kickasskev said:
Yeah go for it great phone, and for the people who voted for SUX ! Dont ever buy it . they probably dont even own the phone
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Right! And the thread "Phone shuts off!! Automatically!!" are full of happy owners. If you´re not happy you simply dont own a o2x. Lol.
I voted "sux" because my super cheap ZTE Blade is slower but definitely more reliable than my o2x.

Just wondering about one thing. Does installin CM7 or other custom roms helps somewhat with BSOD or not at all ?

A custom ROM can help. Not more.
Some people have after installed a CROM no problems with bsod. Others can do what they want...nothing helps....
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LG O2X vs Nexus S

Hey folks, I'm hopping over to a new provider and they're offering me a smartphone, free of charge, and the list boils down to the LG O2X or the Nexus S (the two phones are priced the same according to this provider). I currently have a Galaxy S but it's not compatible with the new provider's bands.
On paper, the LG O2X seems to be the sound winner, but we all know that here at XDA hardware specs aren't everything.
I'd like to ask how the custom firmware selection is like with the LG O2X? Is it as easy to flash as the SGS and the Nexus S? How's the stock LG firmware? What are the ups and downs of the LG O2X?
Thanks

As a O2x owner, i say: GO FOR NEXUS S!!!

honestly, as long as nvidia doesnt release its sources,
go for nexus s.
will save you alot of headache
on paper o2x wins in specs
currently its performance is much better, but on updates and future custom rom development, its tied down because of nvidia
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Thats correct nvidia sucks. The driver lines are not gona be relased .
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dandeli21 said:
Thats correct nvidia sucks. The driver lines are not gona be relased .
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They're not?

-sandro- said:
They're not?
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Dude can't even spell, its just his opinion.
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if u can wait for CM9 on O2x, better buy this phone
but if u want the latest and fastest upgrade, go for nexus

Majority here doesn't seem to be speaking too highly of the O2X, which is surprising since its specs are better than the Nexus S'... Would you guys say that the lack of support from nVidia is a deal breaker here? I'm also wondering how the 1080p video recording is like on the O2X since the Nexus S doesn't even record in 720p

I had a Nexus S for about a week before I got my O2X, the O2X is better, but the Nexus S has better stock software.
I wasn't interested in stock, so that made no difference to me.

go for lx o2x
now i`m using 2 phones: o2x and galaxy S
the o2x loads everything faster than the galaxy , even the original android apps (market , contacts )
both phones are running miui and as I said , o2x is better.

If you don't wanna flash anything but stock, go for the Nexus S.
If you are gonna flash a custom rom, O2X is just better in every field.
I actually think O2X is still the best Quality/Price on the market, if you are gonna play with custom roms.

Actually I'm on rooted stock gb 20m. I prefer this over the other roms I have tried. I also think the O2x is the best deal there is.

As a os2x owner I can tell you without a doubt go for it.
The only advantage you get from the Nexus is ICS, which, if you face reality, really isnt enough of a reason to buy worse hardware.
Os2x is nicely supported on CM7 and works great there, the Tegra2 gpu gives you exclusive access to several titles that utilize Nvidia extensions and overall you will have nice lagfree package with it.
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Nexus S with no doubt. Even has more memory to use.

I have both.
if you want to use stock ROM, go for Nexus S (it already have official ICS now).
if you want to use custom ROMs, go for O2X. you can learn a lot of things with it.

wapz said:
Nexus S with no doubt. Even has more memory to use.
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No. No it does not.
It has the exact same amount to use. Exactly. The Nexus S has 512MB total, with 128MB reserved for the GPU. Identical to the O2X's config.

Rusty! said:
No. No it does not.
It has the exact same amount to use. Exactly. The Nexus S has 512MB total, with 128MB reserved for the GPU. Identical to the O2X's config.
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I guess he ment on internal storage. 8vs.16.
P.s. One off topic question. I thought that "reserved ram for gpu" is only with tegra SoC. Do all SoC reserve from "specified" ram for gpu?

Im planning to get this :) help me

Hi guys, im new to this forum I want to get an optimus black. So plz be patient and answer some of my questions
1. Is the screen good looking? Like clear and no pixels, u know what i mean, a crispy display XD
2. Can i install games like nova2, temple run and many other graphics requiring games from playstore? Any performance or lag issues? <---- This is most important for me.
3. Is the camera good? I mean recording is in HD right?
4. Is the GPU good? cause i never heard of it XP
Anything u think could have made the phone better?
And finally do we have very nice custom ROMS? I bet ICS is still in beta... and we wont get official ICS right?
Edit: OKAY LG Oblack HEREEE I COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMEEE XDDD
Thank you v much guys

Q 1-4 This phone is just awesome.
And When will get officiall ics on the like oktober or something
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RomWiz said:
Q 1-4 This phone is just awesome.
And When will get officiall ics on the like oktober or something
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Thats reassuring man. Thank you. Expecting further encouragements XD

1- This display is one of the best, a friend of mine with SGSII agrees and another with HTC EVO agrees too
2.- I have nova2 and runs very smooth, pes12, fifa12, fieldrunners, osmosHD, asphalt6, minigore... you get the point, as every device it shows a bit of lag at some specific points but mostly when loading new stage or checkpoint
3.- Camera is awesome, you can check out the thread "post your pictures" [or something like that] at general forum
4.- is simply amazing
5.- go buy it already

NOVA is " Excellent High Quality Display" and save energy
Good performance to play game. I played some game you say and feel smooth
Camera is good too. but have litte dark.
GPU ~ Galaxy S ( PowerVR SGX530 vs 540)
We have nice custom ROMs
we will get ICS, but the biggest issue is LG. Yeah. LG is King of delay )

the phone is great, will get ics and as they said run games smooth
but if you'll use it for the coming years, go for a dual or quad core phone
but still, this phone is great
i sold my optimus 3D(had a good offer) but won't sell my Optimus Black

theaks30 said:
the phone is great, will get ics and as they said run games smooth
but if you'll use it for the coming years, go for a dual or quad core phone
but still, this phone is great
i sold my optimus 3D(had a good offer) but won't sell my Optimus Black
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I think ICS LG OB finally not get officially, and I think that is not something to look forward from LG just look how badly ICS works with the new model LG Optimus L5...: (
LG OB are yet to be excellent especially display!

It WILL get official ics
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The Phone is full value for money. Very Sleek, Stylish, light weight and an awesome display. Average Sound
LG promised official ICS. This time the delay is from TI who supplied chipset for the device.
But better than all these is the Community support. We have an amazing developer community here

Compared to the l5, this is twice the price and much more powerful
Robin.raven
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This phone is really good, and the best for its price.
The screen of OB is excellent, and it's the brightest screen you can find today
The only disadvantage is the hardware, which is nice but not the best (1Ghz single core)
But if you look for the best smartphones nowadays, buy Samsung Galaxy Siii or LG 4X HD.

Galaxy S2 vs Optimus 2X

Hi guys!!
I was out yesterday night with some friends and one of them had a S2, so I asked if I could test drive it.
It had stock ICS (4.0.3), versus my P990 with temasek's (almost) latest ROM and vadonka's kernel.
I have to say... other than the screen (that is a lovely 4.3" vs P990's 4") and the phone is practically the same size, so that's very cool... but other than that, I don't regret my buy one bit. The P990 feels smoother and is more responsive, navigating through menus, homescreens and even web browsing!
So all I have to say... congratulations to all dev's, and congratulations LG for putting together a very nice piece of hardware (even if the software is not up to par).

LarsPT said:
Hi guys!!
I was out yesterday night with some friends and one of them had a S2, so I asked if I could test drive it.
It had stock ICS (4.0.3), versus my P990 with temasek's (almost) latest ROM and vadonka's kernel.
I have to say... other than the screen (that is a lovely 4.3" vs P990's 4") and the phone is practically the same size, so that's very cool... but other than that, I don't regret my buy one bit. The P990 feels smoother and is more responsive, navigating through menus, homescreens and even web browsing!
So all I have to say... congratulations to all dev's, and congratulations LG for putting together a very nice piece of hardware (even if the software is not up to par).
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But Samsung Galaxy S2 is still overpriced!

Be proud of your lg, no network in ireland sell any good lg devices, they think we all want iphone or sammy.
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But surely the stock s2 is way better then o2x...
Maybe s2 cm7 is better then o2x?? Anyone confirm this?? (the specs of s2 seems better)

Having used my O2X alongside my Dad's GS2, I can't think of any redeemable qualities that our phone has. The screen on the the S2 is nicer, it's bigger, it's thinner, it has better support from Samsung, it's faster. It's just better.

You just can't compare with s2 ...probably with s advance when 2x with cm7 and s advance with stock...and if with lg stock than you can compare with there galaxy ace...lg stock software is way behind

Who cares, currently the o2x is poo it need ics or jellybean all the roms or gingerbread and froyo suck.
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I wouldnt trade mine for s2 tho i like its bigger screen.Much better design for 2x.
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Dude, aren't you exaggerating a bit? Sure, stock GB sucks a*s, but Temasek's CM7, Stefan's Hybrids, TonyP's PA (and more) are fast and v stable. I am actually very happy w my o2x and as i mentioned b4 Temasek's CM7 has been a cure for my flashaholism for months now. On the subject, i couldn't comment because i haven't seen a sgs2 in action, but i suspect that it would do a bit more than the o2x due to specs.. In the end though, it all comes down to software (as all here know..)

eraldo said:
Who cares, currently the o2x is poo it need ics or jellybean all the roms or gingerbread and froyo suck.
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Like KoolSavas said... it's not only about the android version!
I don't know what you use your phone for... but I use it to make phone call, send text messages, check facebook, check my stocks/bank account, play some poker, ocasionally surf the web and do google searches, take the ocasional picture, stuff like that...
So doesn't matter what's the android version, I want what makes my experience smoother and more enjoyable.
Having said this, I wasn't trying to say that O2X was better than the S2 in an absolute way.
I haven't compared stock O2X vs stock S2, but I do believe that stock S2 will probably fare better in that comparison.
What I did mean to say was that thanks to our dear developers my O2X can not only hold its own, but it actually looks smoother and more responsive than an S2. Of course, if someone were to put CM10 on the S2 it would probably be even better, but that wasn't my point.
And please do not forget that the price tag of an S2 is quite different from the price tag of an O2X.
That's all!

And please do not forget that the price tag of an S2 is quite different from the price tag of an O2X.
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Thats really a VERY important factor.. While o2x price has plumbed, the sgs2 is still quite pricey considering its age. To be fair, i think that now would probably be the best time ever to buy an o2x. Right b4 the ICS update, enough time to play around with a few ROMs and hello ICS(/CM10?)

Buying an o2x would be simply more clever. In germany the price difference is between 100-115€. There is no really good reason to buy the S2. Also the o2x is with its 4'IPS more ergonomical. I would wait until ICS is released then buy the o2x, its worth the money.
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dorwoo said:
I wouldnt trade mine for s2 tho i like its bigger screen.Much better design for 2x.
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True, but the colors (from 3 devices i have seen) are WAY of.
All 3 had blue or green tint in color or gray scale

N3mesis said:
Buying an o2x would be simply more clever. In germany the price difference is between 100-115€. There is no really good reason to buy the S2. Also the o2x is with its 4'IPS more ergonomical. I would wait until ICS is released then buy the o2x, its worth the money.
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I agree with the first part but I actually I don't agree with the last part... (about the 4" IPS)...
What impressed me the most (or maybe the only thing that impressed me) about the S2 was that, even though both phones have practically the same size, the S2 manages to have that extra .3" compared to the O2X (the O2X wastes a lot of screen space at the bottom).
So I'm pretty much convinced my next phone will have at least 4.3".

Other than the software support from Samsung, I dont think there is much difference in other areas.
But I would give up my O2X for S2 just for that quick software upgrades S2 enjoys...

Its good that you think O2x is good. But the reality is, the S2 has better hardware, its faster and it has better support. Official JB is going to land for the S2 in October.
And to the guy that posted gaming video, I raise you this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkEUOA6Spo
Yes thats 1080p Youtube in browser, O2x has been reduced to a slide-viewer.

My friend has a s2 and it's faster but the screen looks green
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i have a friend with an s2 (stock GB) and my o2x with tony's ICS is way smoother and better looking. As much as i want to, the o2x simply isn't a better phone but the fact that we have rooted and flashed custom roms (thanks DEVs) we are able to overcome the shortages and even beat the better phone. YEY grey matter.

KoolSavas95 said:
Nobody can tell me that the s2 is better. Look how the s2 is lagging:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qAFs9OQinNo&desktop_uri=/watch?v=qAFs9OQinNo&gl=US
The 2x is great.
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you cannot compare by watching a stupid youtube video and since you dont own an SII yourself you obviusly dont know the deal
I own both the O2X and the SII which I got after having gone through 4 defective O2X's - and the one I got now still doesnt work bugfree
The SII blow the O2X away in everything and Im just on stock rom for both the SII and the O2X
- it NEVER lags, it has tons better memory management and 1gb ram, meaning nomatter what I do or how long I've had my phone running, or how much I multitask, it NEVER runs out of memory and slows down or starts to lag. Its buttersmooth allways
Samsung constantly sends out updates for it, and its now running stock 4.04 ics - its bugfree, everything works perfect.
Samsung will be sending out jelly bean for it before we even get ICS for O2X
Screen is lots better - not just bigger but looks better.
Batterytime is better - I can go 2-3 days on my SII and only 1 day on the O2X with the same usage pattern
Videoplayback is lots better than O2X which cannot play high profile h264 - my SII plays every video perfect
Camera is lots better, both regular camera and videocamera
Design is better, buildquality is better
It has more internal memory 16gb vs 8gb
Sound quality when playing music is better
I mean anything you can think of comparing is just better on the SII - and the overall feel when using it and everything just works, constantly, is a blessing.
I loved my O2X when I got it, and I stuck by it for a long time before getting the SII - but Im sorry to have to say theres just no comparison at all.

I'm sorry to hear about your very bad experience with the O2X spawndk.
If I were in your situation I would most probably share your exact same opinion. (Un)fortunately, at this moment, I believe I have tweaked my O2X to the best of its capabilities.
I think you were very unlucky with your O2X's, thus your opinion is clearly biased. There are a lot of users in this forum quite happy with their O2X's, as I am, so I don't think your comparison would be true to most people.
I don't think the O2X is better than an S2, nor should it be, as they are not direct competitors (price-wise). I just think that, all things considered, an O2X is not a regrettable choice (for me, and perhaps for most people).