Hi,
big unsavvy discaimer here, yet I managed to root my 2.3.6.Note a few months ago (CWM also installed) needing the root for a backlight notification app which I'm not using after all (I currently have NoLED which requires no root I think)
Having now installed Kies on my pc and hooked up the Note, I am offered an update to 4.0.4 which I'd like to do
1.Is that safe in spite of the rooting? mind you, I don't object to the loss of root that I understand is going with this update method.
just looking for the least time- and effort consuming way to upgrade now, I am sifting through a lot of the technical info here but the wealth of knowledge to digest before I can safely juggle roms seems a bit daunting right now.
2.Also, don't quite remember if I flashed my kernel too at the time of rooting (i was following a comprehensive how-to sheepishly), is there any way I can tell? (phone info attached)
3.Last question, will the kies update leave my apps and settings untouched?
thanks much!
d.
pls delete this second post sorry
Just download a 4.0.4 rom from sammobile if you like stock and flash it via pc Odin..
If you like custom roms go development section, download a rom then go cwm do all wipes and flash it
Do not use Kies to upgrade.. Several things could go wrong and you will end up with a brick..
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thanks for your reply, just a few follow-ups below
msedek said:
Just download a 4.0.4 rom from sammobile if you like stock and flash it via pc Odin..
no further precautions necessary? and will it install the ics over my current apps and settings? the root is no issue here?
If you like custom roms go development section, download a rom then go cwm do all wipes and flash it
ok I'll read up on the wipes, maybe that's for a later upgrade
Do not use Kies to upgrade.. Several things could go wrong and you will end up with a brick..
ok.
thanks again
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delgado9us said:
thanks for your reply, just a few follow-ups below
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No precautions needed while going from gb to ics via Odin.. You will lose root.. (never wipe/factory reset from stock ics kernel or you will end up with a brick
For the custom roms.. Just be sure you are in a safe kernel (speedmod /notecore) before wiping because as I said before.. You will end up with a brick if you wipe from stock ics kernel
You can wipe and flash any custom rom from gingerbread because gingerbread kernels are safe to do so.. As notecore and speedmod are
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msedek said:
No precautions needed while going from gb to ics via Odin.. You will lose root.. (never wipe/factory reset from stock ics kernel or you will end up with a brick
For the custom roms.. Just be sure you are in a safe kernel (speedmod /notecore) before wiping because as I said before.. You will end up with a brick if you wipe from stock ics kernel
You can wipe and flash any custom rom from gingerbread because gingerbread kernels are safe to do so.. As notecore and speedmod are
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ok thanks.
to abuse your generous helping disposition further, how can I tell exactly which kernel I have installed? and is there any benefit to flashing speedmod before upgrading to ics via odin?
and does the odin upgrade to ics leave apps and settings intact?
again, thank you.
delgado9us said:
ok thanks.
to abuse your generous helping disposition further, how can I tell exactly which kernel I have installed? and is there any benefit to flashing speedmod before upgrading to ics via odin?
and does the odin upgrade to ics leave apps and settings intact?
again, thank you.
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If you are on gingerbread the kernel version does not matter.. To check it just go settings>about>kernel version
Speedmod its an ics kernel.. So you gotta be on ics to be able to use it... But if you are rooted in gingerbread and you want a custom rom you can use cwm recovery and flash the custom rom straight... Custom roms includes safe kernels.. So you will be safe..
I really encourage you to stay away from stock ics kernel.. And yeah flashing ics via Odin on top of your gingerbread will keep your apps
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msedek said:
If you are on gingerbread the kernel version does not matter.. To check it just go settings>about>kernel version
Speedmod its an ics kernel.. So you gotta be on ics to be able to use it... But if you are rooted in gingerbread and you want a custom rom you can use cwm recovery and flash the custom rom straight... Custom roms includes safe kernels.. So you will be safe..
I really encourage you to stay away from stock ics kernel.. And yeah flashing ics via Odin on top of your gingerbread will keep your apps
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getting closer, bear with me. I am desperately trying to find out what kernel I am currently running. I have opened another thread just for that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856345
then, all the info I need to act on your advice is- can I keep that very kernel and just flash ICS (i will go with your recommendation to select a custom one) via cvm recovery? i.e. from a rooted 2.3.6. SGN on N7000XXKK9-CL725676 [email protected]#2 (readout from the settings page)
I am obstinate at following up, sorry, but thats because the instructions come pretty casually to the novice, yet the warnings on not ommitting crucial steps abound.
delgado9us said:
getting closer, bear with me. I am desperately trying to find out what kernel I am currently running. I have opened another thread just for that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856345
then, all the info I need to act on your advice is- can I keep that very kernel and just flash ICS (i will go with your recommendation to select a custom one) via cvm recovery? i.e. from a rooted 2.3.6. SGN on N7000XXKK9-CL725676 [email protected]#2 (readout from the settings page)
I am obstinate at following up, sorry, but thats because the instructions come pretty casually to the novice, yet the warnings on not ommitting crucial steps abound.
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Yes you can flash any custom rom ics(or whatever) from your kernel.. The new rom will flash in the process its own kernel.. You have a rooted kernel wich might have cwm.. Download the desired rom to your sd, backup all your photos /videos/documents to your pc... I encourage you to do a fresh install of your apps to avoid further issues when restoring them..
Then press volume up+power+home buttons until you get to the n7000 screen then release to boot up to cwm, once there wipe data and cache then go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache... Then go back install zip from sd card and flash the rom you downloaded and reboot... That's it
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msedek said:
Yes you can flash any custom rom ics(or whatever) from your kernel.. The new rom will flash in the process its own kernel.. You have a rooted kernel wich might have cwm.. Download the desired rom to your sd, backup all your photos /videos/documents to your pc... I encourage you to do a fresh install of your apps to avoid further issues when restoring them..
Then press volume up+power+home buttons until you get to the n7000 screen then release to boot up to cwm, once there wipe data and cache then go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache... Then go back install zip from sd card and flash the rom you downloaded and reboot... That's it
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I have chosen RocketROM v10 - ICS - 4.0.4 - XXLRK for this update (more or less randomly, but it is getting good reviews). In the instructions, it is mentioned that coming from a rooted GB-rom, i should install
abyss kernel 4.2. first, then do a FULL wipe (does that include the dalvik thing too?)
I mention this because these are steps not explicitly included in your last instructions, just trying to connect the last dots. If you confirm that process, I am going ahead!;
muchas gracias!
d.
delgado9us said:
I have chosen RocketROM v10 - ICS - 4.0.4 - XXLRK for this update (more or less randomly, but it is getting good reviews). In the instructions, it is mentioned that coming from a rooted GB-rom, i should install
abyss kernel 4.2. first, then do a FULL wipe (does that include the dalvik thing too?)
I mention this because these are steps not explicitly included in your last instructions, just trying to connect the last dots. If you confirm that process, I am going ahead!;
muchas gracias!
d.
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Do not flash abyss go straight from your current kernel
Coming from gb flashing abyss its an extra an unnecessary step that might gets you into troubles
Tho I gotta ask you if you know
What cwm is and if you have checked that in fact your kernel has cwm
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msedek said:
Do not flash abyss go straight from your current kernel
Coming from gb flashing abyss its an extra an unnecessary step that might gets you into troubles
Tho I gotta ask you if you know
What cwm is and if you have checked that in fact your kernel has cwm
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yes, it even shows up on my apps list
THAT much I do remember from my first venture into messing with the note!
thanks for worrying though;
btw I now hear the stock ics is even leaner and as configurable (with tb) as the rocket rom I downloaded
would the flashing process for the stock ics (DL from the samsung site?) be exactly the same as for custom roms?
thanks!
delgado9us said:
yes, it even shows up on my apps list
THAT much I do remember from my first venture into messing with the note!
thanks for worrying though;
btw I now hear the stock ics is even leaner and as configurable (with tb) as the rocket rom I downloaded
would the flashing process for the stock ics (DL from the samsung site?) be exactly the same as for custom roms?
thanks!
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Nop.. It's not the same.. I'd say it's even easier but risky.. As if something goes wrong while flashing it you will end up with a brick..
If you do like stock feel less bloated with a decent performance and battery life.... Go for the cleanote rom.. HERE
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msedek said:
Nop.. It's not the same.. I'd say it's even easier but risky.. As if something goes wrong while flashing it you will end up with a brick..
If you do like stock feel less bloated with a decent performance and battery life.... Go for the cleanote rom.. HERE
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ok I downloaded that one. Just to be sure, it says:
"Installation:
1.Install from any rooted ROM with a safe kernel (notecore, speedmod, franco, CF). Installation script will automatically wipe /Cache and Dalvik cache for you. You can format /Data as well if you want a completely clean stock rom install with full root and performance enhancements.
Install the usual way though CWM
OR
2.If you are on a stock rom, follow the following instructions
Flash stock ICS rom in PC odin
boot phone
reboot to download mode
flash Notecore kernel in PC odin
reboot phone
copy rom ZIP to sd card
reboot to CWM
perform a factory reset (format /data / cache)
install rom ZIP"
Do I fall under the first group (rooted rom with safe kernel)? because my rom itself is still stock
just making sure
thx
delgado9us said:
ok I downloaded that one. Just to be sure, it says:
"Installation:
1.Install from any rooted ROM with a safe kernel (notecore, speedmod, franco, CF). Installation script will automatically wipe /Cache and Dalvik cache for you. You can format /Data as well if you want a completely clean stock rom install with full root and performance enhancements.
Install the usual way though CWM
OR
2.If you are on a stock rom, follow the following instructions
Flash stock ICS rom in PC odin
boot phone
reboot to download mode
flash Notecore kernel in PC odin
reboot phone
copy rom ZIP to sd card
reboot to CWM
perform a factory reset (format /data / cache)
install rom ZIP"
Do I fall under the first group (rooted rom with safe kernel)? because my rom itself is still stock
just making sure
thx
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You are on gb that's a safe kernel so.. You fall in the first group and you can follow my instructions or those.
Note that in his instructions he says that wiping data its optional but mines does encourage you to do so
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Before flashing the rom get the latest ics baseband (radios) here get the cwm flashable.. So first you flash the rom then before reboot flash the radio then reboot
If you already flashed the rom.. Download the radio to your sd, reboot to cwm then flash it.. No need to wipe anything for flashing the radio
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msedek said:
You are on gb that's a safe kernel so.. You fall in the first group and you can follow my instructions or those.
Note that in his instructions he says that wiping data its optional but mines does encourage you to do so
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Before flashing the rom get the latest ics baseband (radios) here get the cwm flashable.. So first you flash the rom then before reboot flash the radio then reboot
If you already flashed the rom.. Download the radio to your sd, reboot to cwm then flash it.. No need to wipe anything for flashing the radio
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wiping data presents no risk? all my data is backuped btw
after flashing rom (didnt yet), do i flash radio directly or power off/back to recovery mode first?
delgado9us said:
wiping data presents no risk? all my data is backuped btw
after flashing rom (didnt yet), do i flash radio directly or power off/back to recovery mode first?
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From safe kernels wiping data its safe.. It will only delete your apps/system apps and it's data to avoid further issues with battery...
You can flash the radio after flashing the rom and before rebooting..
If you reboot into android without flashing the radio you gotta go back to cwm to do so.. Just the same way you flashed the rom but not wiping anything
Now go ahead and flash lol.. Want to see you happy with your note rocking ics already xD
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Flash the rom and the radio and then ill give you one last tip
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msedek said:
From safe kernels wiping data its safe.. It will only delete your apps/system apps and it's data to avoid further issues with battery...
You can flash the radio after flashing the rom and before rebooting..
If you reboot into android without flashing the radio you gotta go back to cwm to do so.. Just the same way you flashed the rom but not wiping anything
Now go ahead and flash lol.. Want to see you happy with your note rocking ics already xD
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ok ok just one LAST question;
instructions say the install routine performs the cache and dalvik wipes automatically.
that means I just do "install zip from sd card" right away, correct?
chronologically, where does the "wipe data/factory reset" which you recommend come in? before or after that?
it's coming, it's coming...;
delgado9us said:
ok ok just one LAST question;
instructions say the install routine performs the cache and dalvik wipes automatically.
that means I just do "install zip from sd card" right away, correct?
chronologically, where does the "wipe data/factory reset" which you recommend come in? before or after that?
it's coming, it's coming...;
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You can wipe before or after.. I do it before.... So I advice doing it before the flashing
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looking good. thx for your time, patience and help!
rom and radio installed, all wiped, oh what was that last tip you alluded to? ;
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somewhere in the Note community i read about to dont do anything with the recovery when you are upgraded with the LPY .....Now i can see in the development forum that there is customs roms of the lpy rom??????
i want to flash the custom roms but i want to know if it safe and not to brick my loved NOte in the process
There is always a risk when doing any flashing on your phone.
If you want Rocket Rom v1 for example you can flash over LPY in cwm recovery and just wipe dalvik and cache. I did no problems.
They do advise to flash Abyss 4.2 or 3.9 redpill then flash the new rom from that kernel though. Depends how much risk you want to take. I also ran TeamMid 1.2 with no problems
not-i said:
There is always a risk when doing any flashing on your phone.
If you want Rocket Rom v1 for example you can flash over LPY in cwm recovery and just wipe dalvik and cache. I did no problems.
They do advise to flash Abyss 4.2 or 3.9 redpill then flash the new rom from that kernel though. Depends how much risk you want to take. I also ran TeamMid 1.2 with no problems
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I wonder, would it be safer if I copy the files from the ROM /system/app and /system/framework into the phone?
lenrek said:
I wonder, would it be safer if I copy the files from the ROM /system/app and /system/framework into the phone?
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Nope as soon as you start copying frameworks,your phone will reboot and there after,soft reboots....
When you start from /system,You will have lots of FC's and when copying tw,again reboots.
I'm on LPY, pre-rooted oficial version. I got superuser instaled but it isn't working. I don't have CWM instaled too. My question is, can i wipe from STOCK recovery all data and then flash just oficial LPY, without root permisions via ODIN?
krkojzla said:
I'm on LPY, pre-rooted oficial version. I got superuser instaled but it isn't working. I don't have CWM instaled too. My question is, can i wipe from STOCK recovery all data and then flash just oficial LPY, without root permisions via ODIN?
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You can straight away flash LPY through pc odin.Stock recovery too is dangerous
vijai2011 said:
You can straight away flash LPY through pc odin.Stock recovery too is dangerous
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And what about wipe? Factory reset? Can't do any?
krkojzla said:
And what about wipe? Factory reset? Can't do any?
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As I said,stock recovery is also dangerous.so its risky to do wipe.
Ok, i got it. I'm asking this cause i'm not sure what will happen with all my apps? When i flash new stock rom via pcOdin, it gonna delete them or no? I do not need them by the way, but i'm just curious because i remember on my S2 when rom is flashed without wipe it always get some problems
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krkojzla said:
Ok, i got it. I'm asking this cause i'm not sure what will happen with all my apps? When i flash new stock rom via pcOdin, it gonna delete them or no? I do not need them by the way, but i'm just curious because i remember on my S2 when rom is flashed without wipe it always get some problems
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Its not goin to delete your apps....
krkojzla said:
Ok, i got it. I'm asking this cause i'm not sure what will happen with all my apps? When i flash new stock rom via pcOdin, it gonna delete them or no? I do not need them by the way, but i'm just curious because i remember on my S2 when rom is flashed without wipe it always get some problems
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LPY is a non wipe rom, so it will upgrade and keep your existing apps etc
Now a new full wipe ICS roms has been released.LPF.
I will wait to see results for new rom. And how to wipe when it's too dangerous.
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krkojzla said:
I will wait to see results for new rom. And how to wipe when it's too dangerous.
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No other go than taking risk
hi,
after reading so many post on rooting and secure kernels I am still unsure if I lose root, if I flash abyss kernel after beeing rooted (Super Su Busybox).
As I want to do back ups as well as restores I think I need a secure Kernel after rooting. (I am on stock ICS LPF rooted).
Again I am not installing any MOD or ROMS just a rooted Stock ICS.
RbbCHan said:
hi,
after reading so many post on rooting and secure kernels I am still unsure if I lose root, if I flash abyss kernel after beeing rooted (Super Su Busybox).
As I want to do back ups as well as restores I think I need a secure Kernel after rooting. (I am on stock ICS LPF rooted).
Again I am not installing any MOD or ROMS just a rooted Stock ICS.
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No you will not lose root if you flash abyss kernel.
RbbCHan said:
hi,
after reading so many post on rooting and secure kernels I am still unsure if I lose root, if I flash abyss kernel after beeing rooted (Super Su Busybox).
As I want to do back ups as well as restores I think I need a secure Kernel after rooting. (I am on stock ICS LPF rooted).
Again I am not installing any MOD or ROMS just a rooted Stock ICS.
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Do not use abyss as safe kernel for your ics it will not boot up. Use speedmod k3-6 or goku as a safe kernel. Use abyss only for wiping purposes and then flash a custom rom.
thx, that's important info. will try to find those kernels.
If you do have a link just in your hands would be nice if you could copy it for me.
TIA for your efforts
RC
jonpaslim said:
Do not use abyss as safe kernel for your ics it will not boot up. Use speedmod k3-6 or goku as a safe kernel. Use abyss only for wiping purposes and then flash a custom rom.
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Do you mean to use only stock kernel and use abyss only when trying to install any custom ROMs. Is it not possible to use CWM instead of abyss kernel to flash the custom rom. is abyss kernel is just another method to root the note?
Hi,
I think I have problem here...
I have official ICS 4.0.3 (XXLQ2) and CF-Root,
I just flashed with abyss kernel and phone is not booting....
How can I flash to another kernel? I tried Volume down, Power and home button, but I got in download mode...
and also, which is safe kernel to use?
I flashed CF-root kernel by ODIN and now it boots normally
Basically Abyss is kernel for GB. That is the reason why every one advise when ICS rom, if you flash Abyss, do not leave CWM but reboot (not device) but the recovery. and after wiping flash the custom ICS immediately. I suggest you go back to GB and upgrade to ICS officially, and get rooted. (but remember ICS stock ROMs are not safe for backup, specially restoring, since you mentioned backups)
giokiborg said:
Hi,
I think I have problem here...
I have official ICS 4.0.3 (XXLQ2) and CF-Root,
I just flashed with abyss kernel and phone is not booting....
How can I flash to another kernel? I tried Volume down, Power and home button, but I got in download mode...
and also, which is safe kernel to use?
I flashed CF-root kernel by ODIN and now it boots normally
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Use speedmod k3-6 for safe ics custom kernel. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673072
Here is goku kernel for ics. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710937
Here is another ics kernel. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749863
Download any ics rom u like,put in into external,after abyss full wipe,then install it from ex.sd.
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Well, thanks for the various info, however, my problem is still not solved.
Just to avoid misunderstandings I say it again: I do not want to install a custom kernel or so. Just keep my stock ICS rooted. But.... of course I would like to have the possibility to make backups and restore. As this involves the risk of bricking my device, I want to install a Kernel, which is at least considered to be safe ( I know no guarantee at all).
So the advice from "Jonpaslim" seems to be the answer.
this brings me to another problem........ I am in China, so I can't download from File-sharing services, as they are blocked. i can download from drop box, box or any other server also from xda......but I couldn't find a usable link for the k3-6 or Goku. those files don't seem to be so big ones. I wonder, if it may be possible for s.o. here to upload to a private cloud like dropbox or box or sugar sync etc.. and give me the download link.
I thank you for all your efforts in advance
greetings from China
jonpaslim said:
Use speedmod k3-6 for safe ics custom kernel. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673072
Here is goku kernel for ics. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710937
Here is another ics kernel. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749863
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Thanks for reply, I already flashed k3-6
And I like it,
But, to be sure, is it prooved to be safe? I mean recovery, factory reset and the wipe is conformed to be safe? Or still use abyss kernel for CWM and wipe?
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giokiborg said:
Thanks for reply, I already flashed k3-6
And I like it,
But, to be sure, is it prooved to be safe? I mean recovery, factory reset and the wipe is conformed to be safe? Or still use abyss kernel for CWM and wipe?
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Sir u need to flash abyys just for full wipe not for flashing anything from cwm or cache partition and dalvik cache wipe...
Flash abyys just if u wanna make full wipe...
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adamskoc said:
Sir u need to flash abyys just for full wipe not for flashing anything from cwm or cache partition and dalvik cache wipe...
Flash abyys just if u wanna make full wipe...
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Thanks for information,
but as I read SpeedMod kernel is safe for wiping too, but for extra safety I will use abyss kernel
giokiborg said:
Thanks for reply, I already flashed k3-6
And I like it,
But, to be sure, is it prooved to be safe? I mean recovery, factory reset and the wipe is conformed to be safe? Or still use abyss kernel for CWM and wipe?
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This all i can say about the safety of speedmod, never i once read that somebody brick their phone by wiping on speedmod. I trust speedmod myself.
little help
guys one small but important help
i'm going to buy note in just few days probably tomrw
i will buy it on gb version
so what i want to know exactly
1. if i root the gb version with chainfire method of rooting (is it safe to go and keep the device brick bug free) or any other method should i follow
2. if i want to flash any of ics version first i have to flash abysskernel is it ok (means is it brick proof method)
3.abyss kernel is best for upgrade and downgrade and to do nandriod backup with full wipe and it does not brick the device, as much i have read about all this thing, is my knowledge about note to upgrade, downgrade is ok
4.after upgrading to any ics custom rom from gb version i have to keep rom on speedmod kernel is it totaly safe method, and in future if i want to downgrade from ics to gb again i have to flash abyss or same can be done by speedmod
5.speedmod kernel is safe to do full wipe or to flash any modification not the rom
or lastly should i keep my device on gb version without root and wait for expert dev or team samsung to provide us with best solution to keep our device bug free
plz guys appropriate answer will be appreciated
thanks in advance
tonyking123 said:
guys one small but important help
i'm going to buy note in just few days probably tomrw
i will buy it on gb version
so what i want to know exactly
1. if i root the gb version with chainfire method of rooting (is it safe to go and keep the device brick bug free) or any other method should i follow
2. if i want to flash any of ics version first i have to flash abysskernel is it ok (means is it brick proof method)
3.abyss kernel is best for upgrade and downgrade and to do nandriod backup with full wipe and it does not brick the device, as much i have read about all this thing, is my knowledge about note to upgrade, downgrade is ok
4.after upgrading to any ics custom rom from gb version i have to keep rom on speedmod kernel is it totaly safe method, and in future if i want to downgrade from ics to gb again i have to flash abyss or same can be done by speedmod
5.speedmod kernel is safe to do full wipe or to flash any modification not the rom
or lastly should i keep my device on gb version without root and wait for expert dev or team samsung to provide us with best solution to keep our device bug free
plz guys appropriate answer will be appreciated
thanks in advance
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1. GB ROM,s are safe,
2. If you are upgrading from GB, you don't need abyss kernel, use it own kernel for wiping
3. You are right, abyss kernel is safest, because its a GB ketnel with its own CWM, but note, abyss does not boots ICS
4. Speedmod kernel is safe, but for extra safety use abyss kernel for up/down grading
5. It shoud be safe because buggy feature is disabled, but still I can not find solid confirmation, that hardbrik does not happened on this kernel after multiple .wipe and cache clearing, but, also, I didn't heard that hardbrik happened, so i will use abyss kernel for wiping before solid confirmation, that speedmod kernel is safe
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1. GB ROM,s are safe,
2. If you are upgrading from GB, you don't need abyss kernel, use it own kernel for wiping
3. You are right, abyss kernel is safest, because its a GB ketnel with its own CWM, but note, abyss does not boots ICS
4. Speedmod kernel is safe, but for extra safety use abyss kernel for up/down grading
5. It shoud be safe because buggy feature is disabled, but still I can not find solid confirmation, that hardbrik does not happened on this kernel after multiple .wipe and cache clearing, but, also, I didn't heard that hardbrik happened, so i will use abyss kernel for wiping before solid confirmation, that speedmod kernel is safe
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thanks bro
i think i should keep it on gb
as i know and of course with your help i can upgrade my device but if i forgot by chance any important step i can brick my device as i have habit of upgrading b'coz i was having s2 before so its not so easy for me to stop upgrading note and i can brick it easily too
so gb with or without root is ok with me till i get appropriate solution of brickbug
thnaks for your help ma8
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thanks bro
i think i should keep it on gb
as i know and of course with your help i can upgrade my device but if i forgot by chance any important step i can brick my device as i have habit of upgrading b'coz i was having s2 before so its not so easy for me to stop upgrading note and i can brick it easily too
so gb with or without root is ok with me till i get appropriate solution of brickbug
thnaks for your help ma8
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You welcome,
You can upgrade from GB to ISC with samsung Kies,(as i did) it should be safe, anyway, if something goes wrong, you still have valid warranty.
or, you can use abyss kernel and manually upgrade from cwm. (You can find thread, where all stock ICS rom's are listed,
Also, there are a lot of step-by-step instructions on this forum or you can find also video toutorial on youtube or rootgalaxynote.com, just in case, not to forget anything)
I recomend upgrade to ICS, it's way batter than GB.
But after upgrade, you have to move to safe kernel, like speedmod, (already there are several safe roms for ics for example, last one:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749863)
There are also methods to flush to safe kernel and root without having binary count increased.
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giokiborg said:
You welcome,
You can upgrade from GB to ISC with samsung Kies,(as i did) it should be safe, anyway, if something goes wrong, you still have valid warranty.
or, you can use abyss kernel and manually upgrade from cwm. (You can find thread, where all stock ICS rom's are listed,
Also, there are a lot of step-by-step instructions on this forum or you can find also video toutorial on youtube or rootgalaxynote.com, just in case, not to forget anything)
I recomend upgrade to ICS, it's way batter than GB.
But after upgrade, you have to move to safe kernel, like speedmod, (already there are several safe roms for ics for example, last one:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749863)
There are also methods to flush to safe kernel and root without having binary count increased.
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i also love ics far best than gb
my s2 was on ics i never went to gb
i will try to upgrade in safer way
thanks for ur help bro
one thing more did your note have some prob on screen before or after upgrading to ics prob like pixelation, dark image, black or any other dot of different color
as i make my mind to purchase it some new problem stand in front of me and stopped me to buy it
tonyking123 said:
i also love ics far best than gb
my s2 was on ics i never went to gb
i will try to upgrade in safer way
thanks for ur help bro
one thing more did your note have some prob on screen before or after upgrading to ics prob like pixelation, dark image, black or any other dot of different color
as i make my mind to purchase it some new problem stand in front of me and stopped me to buy it
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:good:
I noticed nothing you mentioned, screen is fine, black and other colors are also fine (at least as i can judge)
Also, I'll recomend GL_NOTECORE, Flash it with ODIN immediately after upgrade to official ICS, you will get root, CWM and MMC_CAP_ERASE disabled, also many extra tweaks and doubled 2D/3D performance
I am looking for an eMMC safe ROM. I just bought a GT-N7000, I had the i717 before this one. I've been baffled at trying to find information on what is safe to flash, how to flash it, and what isn't safe to flash. I am currently running CM10, but I'm having issues with the GPS, etc, not to mention I would love to use the S-Pen again. Is there a thread that gives all of the information about what I can/can't flash and not brick my phone? I've searched, but everything I've found doesn't say anything about the eMMC bug.
I apologize in advance if this is something that's common knowledge, it's just that I am new to the GT-N7000.
Thanks,
Rob
u need a custom kernel to make ur TW rom emmc brick free
eg
philz
hydracore
speedmod
nokiamodeln91 said:
u need a custom kernel to make ur TW rom emmc brick free
eg
philz
hydracore
speedmod
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So, let me get this straight. You would flash the kernel and ROM through ODIN?
Thanks,
Rob
Kernels are flashed through ODIN or CWM, ROMs are flashed through CWM (or ODIN if its stock firmware)
Anyway, Your on CM10 now, So your obviously rooted with CWM too, So just simply download a safe kernel (I HIGHLY recommend HydaCore cuz' its awesome ) then download ROM of your choice.
2 ROMs I would recommend to try (this is completely down to my likings) are:
CleaNote (Made by same awesome dev as HydraCore kernel) Completely stock ROM but with all the crap removed - Design for Stock look and feel, But super stable and fast !
RocketMIUI - Made by an awesome dev who also makes RocketROM - This is MIUI ROM, Highly customisable, great theming and tweaks packed full of cool goodies and apps, But also keeps the S-Pen features and apps (such as SNote , SMemo etc etc) Also, Battery life is fantastic (Im getting just short of 2 full days ! )
Once you've chosen your ROM + Kernel, Place them on your SD card, Boot into recovery, flash the safe kernel, Go to advanced menu and select reboot recovery.
Now, Do a full factory reset, along with cache and dalvik cache (under advanced) then go to 'Install zip from sd card' then 'Choose zip from sd card' Then select your ROM
Leave the phone to do its magic and once completed, select 'reboot now' and enjoy
** First boot can take upto 10 mins - dont panic if you think its not booting, Just give it time. Also, DONT forget to do a backup before doing any of this, Either a full Nandroid backup and/or a titanium backup **
Best of luck :good:
excellent explanation
azzledazzle said:
Kernels are flashed through ODIN or CWM, ROMs are flashed through CWM (or ODIN if its stock firmware)
Anyway, Your on CM10 now, So your obviously rooted with CWM too, So just simply download a safe kernel (I HIGHLY recommend HydaCore cuz' its awesome ) then download ROM of your choice.
2 ROMs I would recommend to try (this is completely down to my likings) are:
CleaNote (Made by same awesome dev as HydraCore kernel) Completely stock ROM but with all the crap removed - Design for Stock look and feel, But super stable and fast !
RocketMIUI - Made by an awesome dev who also makes RocketROM - This is MIUI ROM, Highly customisable, great theming and tweaks packed full of cool goodies and apps, But also keeps the S-Pen features and apps (such as SNote , SMemo etc etc) Also, Battery life is fantastic (Im getting just short of 2 full days ! )
Once you've chosen your ROM + Kernel, Place them on your SD card, Boot into recovery, flash the safe kernel, Go to advanced menu and select reboot recovery.
Now, Do a full factory reset, along with cache and dalvik cache (under advanced) then go to 'Install zip from sd card' then 'Choose zip from sd card' Then select your ROM
Leave the phone to do its magic and once completed, select 'reboot now' and enjoy
** First boot can take upto 10 mins - dont panic if you think its not booting, Just give it time. Also, DONT forget to do a backup before doing any of this, Either a full Nandroid backup and/or a titanium backup **
Best of luck :good:
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So, just to be sure of what I'm doing here. Let's say I flash Cleanote, if I wanted to go back to CWM so long as I have a safe kernel installed I shouldn't have to worry about an eMMC brick, correct?
Thanks Again,
Rob
CWM is recovery, You will have it for as long as you use custom roms.
The brickbug only exists in stock ics kernels, so as long as you avoid using them you will be fine, plus, once you try hydracore you wont use anything else and hydracore is 110% safe so always use it when performing full wipes ect :good:
Sorry to steel your thread but my doubt is i rooted my note using supersu in zip format from recovery, now what i know is i dont have a CWM installed, so should i install it to flash a safe kernel or can i do it from the recovery mode?
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digital4282 said:
So, just to be sure of what I'm doing here. Let's say I flash Cleanote, if I wanted to go back to CWM so long as I have a safe kernel installed I shouldn't have to worry about an eMMC brick, correct?
Thanks Again,
Rob
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or u can just be on stock ICS Rom with Hydracore 5.4 kernel installed which works very well too.
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Sorry to steel your thread but my doubt is i rooted my note using supersu in zip format from recovery, now what i know is i dont have a CWM installed, so should i install it to flash a safe kernel or can i do it from the recovery mode?
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download the Philz kernel and install it from the recovery. it is a safe kernel and u will get permanent CWM v6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901191
Can anyone answer me pls i have some more questions left
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Ok thanks for the reply, if i flash phizl kernal can i update to jellybean without any problem once i get the OTA update
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CWM is recovery, You will have it for as long as you use custom roms.
The brickbug only exists in stock ics kernels, so as long as you avoid using them you will be fine, plus, once you try hydracore you wont use anything else and hydracore is 110% safe so always use it when performing full wipes ect :good:
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I think it was the Galaxy S3 that I had that the kernel had CWM built into it. That's why I was thinking when you changed the kernel you had CWM installed too. So the note has a separate recovery partition?
Thanks Again,
Rob
PS: I really appreciate the help. It's frustrating for someone who hasn't had the international note during the eMMC era to flash things. Bricking this phone would break my heart, lol.
Suresh_k said:
Can anyone answer me pls i have some more questions left
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Ok thanks for the reply, if i flash phizl kernal can i update to jellybean without any problem once i get the OTA update
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OTA sometimes dont work if ur device is rooted.. it only happens on stock kernel and stock recovery.. but u can update it via kies. or with pc odin. if u want OTA then u have to go back to stock kernel and unroot
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I think it was the Galaxy S3 that I had that the kernel had CWM built into it. That's why I was thinking when you changed the kernel you had CWM installed too. So the note has a separate recovery partition?
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i guess that s3 also had a custom kernels cuz the stock kernel will never have CWM as its a custom recovery.
when u change to a custom kernel, it will mostly have CWM builtin
Why do we actually need a CWM when we have recovery mode, sry if its a noob question
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Why do we actually need a CWM when we have recovery mode, sry if its a noob question
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its mainly for flashing custom ROMs and do advanced tasks as the stock recovery dont offer such facilities.
more over ICS kernel is not safe even to do a factory reset. so if ever ur becomes slow and u want to do a factory reset u risk ur phone.
so better install a safe kernel and all safe kernel comes with clockworkmod recovery and its safe to do a reset
I guess safe to reset is related to kernel not to CWM? Why do we actually need to replace our recovery?
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its mainly for flashing custom ROMs and do advanced tasks as the stock recovery dont offer such facilities.
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I guess safe to reset is related to kernel not to CWM? Why do we actually need to replace our recovery?
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As far as I remember, there r 2 EMMC erase things..one related to the kernel & other one related to the recovery..below text is from one of Ketan's post here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1894293&page=5
"Originally Posted by dr.ketan
New safe kernel on the way
I have tested kernel. This kernel won't universal for all but just like Cf kernel. It will be according ROM. B'coz here there is no other modification from stock kernel but just made it safe by removing mmc_erase_cap command.
This is stock kernel but binary patched with MMC_CAP_ERASE removed from both recovery as well kernel
Best thing is you can flash with stock recovery and also gives root.
So anyone want to test let me know."
Hi, I installed the Call_rec_Galaxy_note.zip in CWM found here, and now JellyBam won't boot. I'm able to see the Samsung logo and access CWM, but cannot boot. I tried wipe/factory reset but it's still the same problem. How should I proceed?
Always always keep a nandriod backup before flasing anything using cwm
Eek... I know now How do I repair it so I can boot again?
Reflash your ROM over the existing rom
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Yes do as what he says
nokiamodeln91 said:
Yes do as what he says
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Thanks for your help guys. If I am to go to another rom (such as this), is it ok just to do the following:
Load *.zip on your SD/EXT Card
Restart in CWM
Be sure you’re on SAFE KERNEL, then you can wipe
Full wipe /data/factory reset /cache and dalvik
Format /data /system and /preload
Flash the ROM
Wait some minute until your phone boot!
Does the fact it is XXLSC matter? My kernel version is XXLRK... thought I'd better ask!
If you are indeed on stock lrk kernel now - you better Flash the LRK version of Philz kernel before doing anything. You are not on a safe kernel. You should not do factory resets in your current kernel. You will brick your device eventually.
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I thought you were on JellyBam . how come you on LRK kernel?
He must have ref lashed stock?
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I have flashed the LRK version of Philz already, but I think the JellyBam installer installed the latest CM10/AOKP Kernel? Can I install the above rom, even though it installs Philz XXLSC kernel over a XXLRK? Forgive me for asking nooby questions... I'm just fearful of bricking
Yes because cm10 kernel has secure erase suppressed and is thus 100% safe.
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Sorry, just read your comments...
From stock I installed the LRK version of Philz, but not sure what JellyBam installed... I'm not too sure of what LRK kernels etc are :silly:
If you are on jellybam kernel (cm10) OR philz you are safe (at least from brick bug)
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If you installed jellybam most recently it will replace philz lrk with cm10 kernel... doesn't matter so long as you are not on a stock Samsung kernel and are on either cm10 kernel or philz its safe to install and wipe
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Haha, I'm never safe So can I go ahead and install this rom as it said? Does it not matter that I was on XXLRK and this says XXLSC? Sorry for the questions, I'd just rather be safe(r) than sorry
OMg! So much of confusion. What rom are you on now? When you go onto recovery, what do you see? Cwm-philz.?
Do you have the new rom download into the phone storage?
I'm on JellyBam. When I go into Recovery, it says CWM-based Recovery v6.0.1.9. I'm so sorry to have confused you! I haven't finished downloading the new rom. I know that what I am on (should) be safe from the EMMC brick, but I just don't know what the kernel version means. When I rooted my phone from stock, I installed PhilZ-cwm6-XXLRK-XEU-3.71-signed, as my stock kernel was XXLRK. What I don't know is whether the fact I was previously on XXLRK matters anymore when choosing other kernels/roms. Sorry again to be so troublesome.
Essentially, the whole confusion stems from not knowing what XXLRK or XXLSC refer to? I know when I went from stock to PhilZ, I had to make sure I got the correct version for my device, so I dont know whether I can now go to XXLSC.
So now you on philz kernel xxlxx.
JellyBAM won't boot on that kernel but it's safe. Download the rom and put in phone storage and do wipes and formats (system, data, cache, preload) and then flash the new rom. New rom will come with its own kernel (philz)
I've just looked into it, and JellyBam states that it features "Latest CM10/AOKP Kernel compiled from sources"... would I be best flashing Philz that I installed previously just to be safe? I think my recent bricking has made me too cautious haha
You can flash it using the cm10 kernel as well or philz too. Any will do the job well
Thank you so much for tolerating me Would you be able to explain what the XXLRK/XXLSC means?
Yes I know I am a NOOB at 46 but I still can't resist messin with **** that isn't broken. Loved the NOOB video.
The probem is I think I flashed a dodgey ROM app and got scared half way through and tried to reset the phone to factory.
This is my Galaxy Note GT n7000. I have done a factory reset 3 times and believe I am well on my way to bricking my phone if I do this again.
All is good so far except the CAMERA.
I have downloaded the necessary HOTFILE STOCK ROM for NZ from your site but am now scared ****less to flash it.
Should I just give it back to the manufacturer and say DUH I DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED and let them fix it
I also have GINGER BREAD 2.3.6 ROM Should I just flash this and hope for a fix
I also have ICS 4.0.4 XXLRG Should I Flash this after 2.3.6
Just need a little help and direction, as this is all quite new to me. Yes I'm sure this has all been done before and as I yell at my kids for doin stupid **** you deserve the same latitude.
Cheers ****
flash gb first.. after flashing the gb do a factory reset and then check your camera if it's working or not.. if you got lucky and got it working then flash a ics otherwise take it to manufacturer for repair.. don't mess up when you don't know what you are doing
Ps: if everything goes well and you flashed a ics rom then please flash a modified stock kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901191
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you can go ahead and flash ICS 4.0.4 but donot do a factory reset on stock recovery/kernel..
Camera
abhinav quietly brilliant said:
flash gb first.. after flashing the gb do a factory reset and then check your camera if it's working or not.. if you got lucky and got it working then flash a ics otherwise take it to manufacturer for repair.. don't mess up when you don't know what you are doing
Ps: if everything goes well and you flashed a ics rom then please flash a modified stock kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901191
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Thanks for your reply, but if you look at the other reply it says to flash ics and NOT to do a FACTORY reset and you say to do the factory reset what is the risk of doing the factory reset
Not to sure which version of PHILZ modified Kernel to use Can you help with this
If you choose GB, it's safe. But ICS kernels have a bug which can brick the phone if a factory wipe is made. What abhinav said was to do a wipe in GB. Which is safe. What I told you was you can directly install the ICS rom but refrain from wiping till you install a safe kernel.
Go to OAD forum of note and you will see Philz thread. Download any ICS kernel like DDLRB and place on external SD. Then boot in to recovery and choose "apply update from external storage". Choose the zip file you downloaded. Once done boot into recovery again. Yubwill have Cwm. Now you have a safe kernel. You can do a factory wipe.
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If you choose GB, it's safe. But ICS kernels have a bug which can brick the phone if a factory wipe is made. What abhinav said was to do a wipe in GB. Which is safe. What I told you was you can directly install the ICS rom but refrain from wiping till you install a safe kernel.
Go to OAD forum of note and you will see Philz thread. Download any ICS kernel like DDLRB and place on external SD. Then boot in to recovery and choose "apply update from external storage". Choose the zip file you downloaded. Once done boot into recovery again. Yubwill have Cwm. Now you have a safe kernel. You can do a factory wipe.
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Thank you for your help. I have fixed the camera with the GB update and went on to update ICS XXLRG, but this still isnt CwM.
Im not sure which Cwm to use There is an XXLSC-XJB which is close. Should I use this one or does it matter
. PhilZ files were unavailable for download as well is there another place to get this file and what is the easiest method to install
Choose as per your rom build number.
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Choose as per your rom build number.
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My wuild number after flashing ICS is IMM76D.XXLRG but nothing is the same the clsing osest on Philz is XXLSC XJB
Could I flash this using ODIN from my laptop?
Thanks
PS where is the thank you button for my responses I like to say thanks but cant seem to find where
You have an ICS rom. You can use any ICS kernel by Philz. Use xxlrt or ddlrb
Flashing via odin will increase the counter and yellow triangle at boot. Best is to flash via recovery. Place the zip version of the kernel on ext sd card and boot into recovery
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You have an ICS rom. You can use any ICS kernel by Philz. Use xxlrt or ddlrb
Flashing via odin will increase the counter and yellow triangle at boot. Best is to flash via recovery. Place the zip version of the kernel on ext sd card and boot into recovery
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Thanks again
I used modified ICS kernel PhilZ cwm6 XXLRG DBT 3.99 signed zip version but when I boot from SD it stops and says that it can't verify the signature and wont install
Do I need and unzip app? If I install this update will I have root access to run apps like Titanium Backup?
Or should I use the tar file in ODIN?
I do appreciate all your time and effort
What option did you select in recovery?
This is what you need to follow
1. Download the signed zip version of the kernel and place in external sd.
2. Boot into recovery and choose "apply update from external storage".
3. Choose the file you downloaded.
4. It will do the magic.
This will give you root access and yes apps like TB can be used. Also you will get CWM and it's a safe kernel too.
Dude he has done everything correct i know.. The v.3.99 of ics kernels are not built correctly when you flash them in stock ics recovery they always give a verification failed error.. But the older versions are ok to be flashed in stock ics recovery
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I just flashed the ddlrb 3.99 and worked just fine. Where did you get this info?
Use the tar method only if u are confident enough
And yes you will be able to run applications like titanium backup
And for the flash counter just use triangle away
Search Google for it
All is well that ends well
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I just flashed the ddlrb 3.99 and worked just fine. Where did you get this info?
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Read some comments on the thread and i too have faced that.. But i guess philz has corrected his kernels they are installing now..
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