Official ICS + JB = ? - Galaxy Tab 8.9 General

So I don't know much about Android development but since JB is supposedly pretty close to ICS, now that ICS is officially out, does this mean a JB with a working camera is possible? Or am I a dumbass?

Kasracer said:
So I don't know much about Android development but since JB is supposedly pretty close to ICS, now that ICS is officially out, does this mean a JB with a working camera is possible? Or am I a dumbass?
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I think people who assume and who dont actually ask questions are dumb... never think that of some1 who openly asks
Anything is possible, but doubt it cause as far as I know, simply adding drivers from ICS to a JB build isn't all that easy. Could be very wrong though

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[Q] How is 2.3.7?

2.3.7 was out on September 20 -- why nothing about it here? Anyone tried it already?
P.S. I am not happy with my 2.3.4, XXJVP at all. It hangs, com.adroid.phone keeps crashing, phone is not much responsive and it all gets only worse and worse over the time. Now I am thinking, should I look towards 2.3.7 or should I wait until 4.0 comes? However, I guess 4.0 will come to I9000 with a significant delay, right?
Why not try 2.3.5?
vak said:
2.3.7 was out on September 20 -- why nothing about it here? Anyone tried it already?
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Source? Imho 2.3.5 for I9000 is the latest available version - even for the nexus, just 2.3.6 is available...
webwude said:
Source? Imho 2.3.5 for I9000 is the latest available version - even for the nexus, just 2.3.6 is available...
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btw, I didn't say 2.3.7 for I9000. Here is the German article mentioned from German wikipedia about Android:
http://www.appdated.de/2011/09/nexus-s-4g-bekommt-android-2-3-7-update-fur-google-wallet/
Then it comes down to this promo video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DsaJMhcLm_A#!
I can't find more details to be honest
CM7 is 2.3.7. coz is build from nexus sources ... and i thing there is nothing extra for i9000 users ... we dont have NFC chip ....
s3icc0 said:
... and i thing there is nothing extra for i9000 users ... we dont have NFC chip ....
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btw, what about "No tethering" bug / feature in this 2.3.7 ?
These updates hardly matter.We already have few ROMs of 2.3.5
Now we want ICS....and our device is very capable of running it
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androiderrr said:
These updates hardly matter.We already have few ROMs of 2.3.5
Now we want ICS....and our device is very capable of running it
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when do you expect ICS to be available for I9000 ?
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when do you expect ICS to be available for I9000 ?
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I dont think samsung will release ics for the galaxy s but i hope they do if they dont i will go the cyogenmod way
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I dont think samsung will release ics for the galaxy s but i hope they do if they dont i will go the cyogenmod way
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I don't build any illusions regarding Samsung's official releases. They are rather out of scope until Summer 2012 ;-) No joke, SAMSUNG sux big big big time on rolling out updates.
My concern are ROMs that are created by community heros. When'd you expect such?
vak said:
I don't build any illusions regarding Samsung's official releases. They are rather out of scope until Summer 2012 ;-) No joke, SAMSUNG sux big big big time on rolling out updates.
My concern are ROMs that are created by community heros. When'd you expect such?
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I agree to some of your point but telling that samsung sucks in update is incorrect.Galaxy S has got updates more frequenty than any other android phone.We already have 2.3.5 leaked stock firmware and in comming days u will some 2.3.6 updates as well.Comming to other brands,take example of htc,they are still on 2.3.4.Motorola donot give more than 1 update to phones and forget about LG(they think that customers must be deprived of updated,so that they can ultimatly sell thier mobile industry)
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I think we will have to use CM7 to get a taste of 2.3.7...
OK, and what are your bets about availability date for ICS on I9000 ?
(unofficially of course, there is no much sense to discuss official one)
UPDATE: OK, I'll try CM7 with its 2.3.7 and that's it. It will probably heal my SGS for next months ...or will brick it
After being hesitant for a while ( losing the whole samsung apps/feel ) ive finally made the jump to CM7. I must say its really stable and smooth, its packed with lots of options and tweaks .. so far im simply loving it. I think my search for the best custom ROM is done .
Btw, Cyanogen mod 7.1 is out for the i9000, which is considered as the first "stable" version to run on the i9000.
Also, im pretty sure cyanogen will get us ICS way before Samsung does.
I cannot really bet but after Nexus s recived ICS then it will hardly take 15-30 days for devlopers to port ICS to galaxy s because both nexus s and galaxy s is running same hardware except camera chip.
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Well from what I understand, manufacturers are not required to release android updates to devices which are older than 18months. Anyone know the exact launch date of the sgs? So I guess it depends what the age of the sgs is by the time ICS is released. Even if we don't get the official ICS, I'm not so sure whether we will get it through cyanogen due to the sgs ram limitation. From 2.1 to 2.3 the average amount of free ram on the sgs has come down quite a lot, to a point where through average use you can end up in a situation with only 30mb free ram (depending on your rom and kernel and what apps and Widgets you use) after a days use. ICS will obviously have even higher memory demands than gingerbread, so the ICS experience on a sgs if it is provided unnofically by cyangoen may not be very smooth and user friendly.
That's just my opinion though, I'm no expert! And obviously I'd love for us to get ICS on the sgs
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The most stable version I experienced till now is XXJPY. I'm using it for more than 2 months with no problem.
I guess the only way I'll ever use the new version will be through a ROM, probably same for many other people in here.
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Try the miui rom!! Will not be disappointed
avi26234 said:
Try the miui rom!! Will not be disappointed
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isn't that a version tailored for Asia?..

[Q][i9000] ICS Facelock + i9000

Probably a stupid question but I'm curious.
Is it possible to run the Facelock that ICS has on a SGS i9000?
Rydnhi said:
Probably a stupid question but I'm curious.
Is it possible to run the Facelock that ICS has on a SGS i9000?
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only if you run onecosmic's ICS rom ...
still to be implemented in latest build of CM9 (teamhacksung)
won't work on non-ICS roms
ah i should have guessed, is that the only rom that it will work with for the time being or?
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ah i should have guessed, is that the only rom that it will work with for the time being or?
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I don't think it'll work anytime for non-ICS roms (though if some dev decides then anything can happen )
it'll be implemented in CM9 for sure.. (it was working till Build 9)
Yup you need to flash the newest ics but you really shud try it if u didn't, its pretty cool
I know I sound really stupid but what is the newest?
I mean I look in the Dev section and I see quite a few roms with ICS in the title and I dont want to pick one that is crappy
Rydnhi said:
I know I sound really stupid but what is the newest?
I mean I look in the Dev section and I see quite a few roms with ICS in the title and I dont want to pick one that is crappy
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The two latest ones are build 11 from teamhacksung and RC1 from oncecosmic .. both based on android 4.0.3 .... my personal opinion is trying out onecosmic's.. I have tried both and like this one better and much more stable and with more features...
Alrighty If I can find his thread I'll try it
I couldn't find it last time i looked though!
Edit: I'm a moron and looked properly and found it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398223

So...What about Jelly Bean, Android 4.1?

Well, Google has announced an incremental update to Ice Cream Sandwich, called Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, and it's Phone and tablet UI like ICS.
Little info here.
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html
So, it's using ICS and Honeycomb driver model, but there are other things like the so-called "LAG free" that seems to be a real change inside android, but I think devs will get a workaround. So, is possible to port this new update?
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Well, Google has announced an incremental update to Ice Cream Sandwich, called Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, and it's Phone and tablet UI like ICS.
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Maybe, hope that ...
Right now we still haven't stable Cyanogenmod 9 (ICS),
But I think if we -hope soon, then we could have a stable Cyanogenmod 10 (Jelly Bean) .. What ????!!!! Cyanogenmod 10 !! looks good
Thanks for news
Best Regards
Seems it's not a bug update..close to ics, so just might happen.
Don't forget about hardware limitation.
We won't get all the features from Jelly Bean. Even ICS, we won't.
I think CM9 is already a magical ROM coming for us.
To have a Jelly Bean, it's quadratic magic! lol.
Let's hope we have CM9 without bugs and then AOKP too.
For now, it's more logical.
We have not got ICS till yet and you are talking about jelly bean
Still a long way to go
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Like I knew somebody is going to ask is somebody going to port JB to our device... it does not give us THAT much improvements to spend time on development.
And, what everybody said above, even ICS is not usable (no camera, lack of RAM, lots of bugs). Luckily, i'm happy with my Gingerbread CM7.2, and i'm just watching the situation closely
ICS CM9 Camera?
Can someone tell me whether Camera is working on the most recent CM9 ROM (GalaxyICS) for Galaxy mini.
I heard that Camera is somewhat working and we may have a working Camera in the next release. Is this true, someone give some info on this, please.
Apourv said:
Can someone tell me whether Camera is working on the most recent CM9 ROM (GalaxyICS) for Galaxy mini.
I heard that Camera is somewhat working and we may have a working Camera in the next release. Is this true, someone give some info on this, please.
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Currently it's not working !
But we may have working camera in few releases
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We already have a working camera in the new upcoming cm 9
Then there will be bug updates though fm radio has a long way to go but stock ics can still get a radio so we can hope cm 10 or jelly bean to start by next year minimum, and cheers.
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Don't get over-excited guys, ics barely works on gmini right now due to low ram *edit* low EVERYTHING, and I assume that jellybean will simply be more resource-demanding, so just pull your horses until we get properly working ics m'kay? To be honest, I don't believe that we will ever get cm9/ics as stable as cm7, simply due to hardware limitations of galaxy mini.
Next year this phone will be the worstest of the worst... cmon, 600MHz processor in 2013?
Forget about Jelly Bean, we still have bugs in ****ing gingerbread (camera orientation), ICS is not stable enough too...
it is possible to make a buggy android 4.1 port from gnexus ...
but i dont think that that will be cool xD
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Galaxy Nexus is ARMv7. Just wait for the source.
Question first...Why port something we know won't ever be able to run stable on our device because we don't have drivers which is kept close sourced?
And also that drivers just can't be compiled as with happened to the Adreno200 drivers for ICS to armv6.
You need to rewrite the whole code, possibly even write new code to drivers for our device. And I doubt the people who make these drivers and publish these sort of stuff want to spend any extra work on trying to make it work on our devices.
We'll be stuck with Gingerbread guys. End of story.
No, JB is a "small" update. Drives from ICS will work fine on JB. So, it may even be a little faster. Anyway, I will try to build it when source comes out.
sry not the kernel, it needs to be modded -.-
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Everything I want from the JB is offline voice typing.
TheWhisp said:
Everything I want from the JB is offline voice typing.
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What about lagfree UI?
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domcale said:
Next year this phone will be the worstest of the worst... cmon, 600MHz processor in 2013?
Forget about Jelly Bean, we still have bugs in ****ing gingerbread (camera orientation), ICS is not stable enough too...
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The worst is the HTC Dream.
AOKP feels smoother than GB...
KoperKiller said:
The worst is the HTC Dream.
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Lol, show me one advanced user that still has HTC Dream as his main phone? After all it has 528 MHz CPU (slow POS just like our mini), and has been released 2 years (or more?) earlier than Galaxy mini - how can you compare that?
And.. why would one buy an HTC - they are so ****ing complicate to flash - HBOOT, fastboot, bootloader downgrade, firmware downgrade, using the command prompt in windows - nothing here on Samsung

[Q] Are there any Sense JB Rom?

Hi All,
Still sense rom with Jelly Bean not released right? Is it not possible at all? I know if it was possible devs would have made it.. but still.. many HTC handsets got JB update,.. why not any port to our phone..
I am on MiUi JB rom and certainly miss sense as its still on ICS..
Rah0ol said:
Hi All,
Still sense rom with Jelly Bean not released right? Is it not possible at all? I know if it was possible devs would have made it.. but still.. many HTC handsets got JB update,.. why not any port to our phone..
I am on MiUi JB rom and certainly miss sense as its still on ICS..
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I'd suggest you do a snooping around in the Development Forums first, but because there are a lot of ROMs in which it was discussed, Ill just tell you here.
To put it simply, it is possible but quite difficult. It is possible to have Jellybean Sense running on our device but A LOT of kernel work has to be done. JellyBean kernels require something call Ion. Some devices support it natively (like the newer ones) while others like our device, does not support it natively, and as a result, there are some conflicts, the most common and widely known is probably the camera breaking. Some libs and modules need to be fixed/replaced in order for the Jellybean ROM to work.
But patience, if a dev has the time, maybe he/she will work on a Jellybean Sense kernel for us.
072665995 said:
I'd suggest you do a snooping around in the Development Forums first, but because there are a lot of ROMs in which it was discussed, Ill just tell you here.
To put it simply, it is possible but quite difficult. It is possible to have Jellybean Sense running on our device but A LOT of kernel work has to be done. JellyBean kernels require something call Ion. Some devices support it natively (like the newer ones) while others like our device, does not support it natively, and as a result, there are some conflicts, the most common and widely known is probably the camera breaking. Some libs and modules need to be fixed/replaced in order for the Jellybean ROM to work.
But patience, if a dev has the time, maybe he/she will work on a Jellybean Sense kernel for us.
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Thanks a lot for the explanation. So the Kernel is the issue here for the JB sense ROM development. I will just have to wait for the kernel to be developed..
and yeah snooping around the Dev forum, I am a mad flasher.. I have flashed all the firmware that are currently released for HTC on the dev forum and have played around with all dude
Was patiently waiting for a JB sense.. Guess I have to wait more..
Thanks a lot for the detailed explaination..
Brilliant explanation by 072665995, but dont get your hopes up guys
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Brilliant explanation by 072665995, but dont get your hopes up guys
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Agreed, brilliant explanation.
Yeah seriously!! Sense is so awesome that release of new version of JellyBean just makes its so expected to have a sense version of it. Bad that we face an issue in achieving that..

[Q] GB, ICS, or JB?

I just got a Galaxy S and am surprised to see so many JB roms available.
I would probably switch over to this phone from my Xperia S, just to use Voodoo Sound
My question is, is JB roms currently stable enough compared to ICS or GB?
Please provide feedback only if you've tried all three versions before :silly:
Yes jb is good i have tried most roms and i blv super nexus rom is very good .. But u cant customize it.. Try it your self ...
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Yup, JB is very stable. Personally Liquidsmooth or RemICS-JB are fantastic.
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Only ICS ROMs
Stupidest said:
I just got a Galaxy S and am surprised to see so many JB roms available.
I would probably switch over to this phone from my Xperia S, just to use Voodoo Sound
My question is, is JB roms currently stable enough compared to ICS or GB?
Please provide feedback only if you've tried all three versions before :silly:
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Dear,
I am developing only the FlymeOS for i9000 at now ; soon i will developing a Custom Rom with 4.0.4 base...
You can really forget JB Roms , the one good JB for i9000 is only 4.1.2 ; you can forget JB 4.2.1 and 4.2.2
They are quite fast at beginning , but you will notice how lazy they are going to be ..
I highly recommend ICS roms , because they are really fast and they haven't bugs.
There are some apps that are only avalible for Android 4.0+ (like Nova Launcher) , and so I really can't see that ICS is outdated.
Thats why i only develop and port roms for ICS on i9000 device.
UnlimitedRom said:
Dear,
I am developing only the FlymeOS for i9000 at now ; soon i will developing a Custom Rom with 4.0.4 base...
You can really forget JB Roms , the one good JB for i9000 is only 4.1.2 ; you can forget JB 4.2.1 and 4.2.2
They are quite fast at beginning , but you will notice how lazy they are going to be ..
I highly recommend ICS roms , because they are really fast and they haven't bugs.
There are some apps that are only avalible for Android 4.0+ (like Nova Launcher) , and so I really can't see that ICS is outdated.
Thats why i only develop and port roms for ICS on i9000 device.
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Yup, agreed here. Don't get us (or at least me) wrong, 4.2.2 is fantastic. But ICS is rock stable in just about eery aspect and 4.1.2 is pretty damn good as well if you still want to consider Jelly Bean.
Although @UnlimitedRom, you have to admit Google Now is pretty neat
A lot of JB apks can be pushed manually or installed normally on ICS roms anyway.. Just that ICs roms in general are less customiseable than JB roms.
By the way, FlymeOS is looking goooood
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Soryuu said:
Yup, agreed here. Don't get us (or at least me) wrong, 4.2.2 is fantastic. But ICS is rock stable in just about eery aspect and 4.1.2 is pretty damn good as well if you still want to consider Jelly Bean.
Although @UnlimitedRom, you have to admit Google Now is pretty neat
A lot of JB apks can be pushed manually or installed normally on ICS roms anyway.. Just that ICs roms in general are less customiseable than JB roms.
By the way, FlymeOS is looking goooood
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Google Now ... is somebody using it? It think it's kinda useless , it is my opinion.
Only 4.1.2 is a good Jelly Bean for i9000
I really can't see that ICS should be a old OS ; as you have said that JB apk's can be installed on ICS...
I bet that if i9000 device is to lazy for Android 5.0 , there will be lots developers who develop for 4.0.4 ...
Thank you, i am still working on it to get bugs away
UnlimitedRom said:
Google Now ... is somebody using it? It think it's kinda useless , it is my opinion.
Only 4.1.2 is a good Jelly Bean for i9000
I really can't see that ICS should be a old OS ; as you have said that JB apk's can be installed on ICS...
I bet that if i9000 device is to lazy for Android 5.0 , there will be lots developers who develop for 4.0.4 ...
Thank you, i am still working on it to get bugs away
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Yeah, when google released 4.2 I don't really see the point of it except for some nicer animations or not so important functions.
I was shocked at the sheer number of JB roms for this phone at first because on my previous experiences, JB don't work really well on single core phones
I'd give JB a try first and if it's really bad I would try out the rom of yours, it looks great
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Yeah, when google released 4.2 I don't really see the point of it except for some nicer animations or not so important functions.
I was shocked at the sheer number of JB roms for this phone at first because on my previous experiences, JB don't work really well on single core phones
I'd give JB a try first and if it's really bad I would try out the rom of yours, it looks great
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JB roms is for dual-core phones to run smooth , thats why GT-i9100 got 4.2.2 ; cause it is a dual-core..
Thank you , in 4-5 days i release the bugfree version of my rom , it is better that you wait the 4-5 days for it if you want my rom
UnlimitedRom said:
Google Now ... is somebody using it? It think it's kinda useless , it is my opinion.
Only 4.1.2 is a good Jelly Bean for i9000
I really can't see that ICS should be a old OS ; as you have said that JB apk's can be installed on ICS...
I bet that if i9000 device is to lazy for Android 5.0 , there will be lots developers who develop for 4.0.4 ...
Thank you, i am still working on it to get bugs away
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Hey, you never know, rumours are flaoting around that 5.0 is going to be optimised for devices with a 1Ghz processor and 512MB of rom( (one or the other or both). So you never know, 5.0 might really bring the S back to life
But yeah, 4.0.4 is a really good base for the I9000. Smooth, stable but not too taxing for the processor at all (not to mention some pretty good battery life, daaaaaaamn)
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Stupidest said:
Yeah, when google released 4.2 I don't really see the point of it except for some nicer animations or not so important functions.
I was shocked at the sheer number of JB roms for this phone at first because on my previous experiences, JB don't work really well on single core phones
I'd give JB a try first and if it's really bad I would try out the rom of yours, it looks great
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Yeah, agreed. The JB roms optimised for gaming work decently- although that's HEAVILY optimised and debloated to give as quick an experience as possible. But it's an OS optimised mostly for dual cores and above. There are very few single-core devices- if at all- that run 4.1 officially, and for pretty damn good reason. Only one I can think of is the Nexus S (Nexus version of the Galaxy S, bearing in mind), and even then 4.2 was dropped for that device. So while its still possible to have Jelly Bean fully functional, at the end of the day...
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