Hi, I have had my note (gt-n7000, all stock, not rooted) since December and have kept an eye on my data usage using data counter widget and NetTraffic widget. On gingerbread everything was fine, very little background data, monthly usage well below 100MB (I'm on wi-fi 90% of the time), my battery usage was not great but no cause for concern at 8-10 hours standby.
Since the update to ics I have had battery issues, 4-5 hours standby max and I think this is caused by a constant 1kb/s connection every second. I have somehow managed too use 150MB in 10 days without even using my phone on 3g (standby only for average.... 1 hour a day!? ish). The phone doesn't get as hot as it did when ics first installed.
Onavo said Facebook was using high data so I have uninstalled it to test. RadioOpt Traffic monitor 4.1 shows "System Traffic" as extremely high.
I have tried:
Rebooting the phone.
Killing tasks/clearing memory.
Force stopping every process to see if that would identify the app/service causing the extra background data.
Disable sync.
Disable Samsung account.
Uninstalled Samsung push service.
Launch TWlauncher and remove all widgets and pages, I run ssLauncher.
I hadn't noticed the data usage when I first installed ics, it was a probably a week before I did. I don't think I have many new apps that would do this although something may have changed when an app updated.. but then wouldn't that show up in Onavo?
Does anyone know of any apps (non-root) that will give me detailed network information? ip addresses/domains attached too and What apps are currently connected?
Has anyone else noticed the same issue? I did search the forum before posting so doubt it.
LBE Privacy Guard can give you detailed info as to the data being used by each app but I'm not sure it's much better than the info ICS gives you when you go to settings / data usage.
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LBE was useful thanks, I have used it to identify 3D flip clock as one application using a lot more data than it should. After uninstalling my data usage has improved. May have just been a bad install or a faulty update.
I'm now wondering why "voice talk" is using so much, especially as I don't use it and every time it asks me "what would you like to do?" I tell it to uninstall itself but nothing happens. is there anything I can do to disable it?
mctonale said:
LBE was useful thanks, I have used it to identify 3D flip clock as one application using a lot more data than it should. After uninstalling my data usage has improved. May have just been a bad install or a faulty update.
I'm now wondering why "voice talk" is using so much, especially as I don't use it and every time it asks me "what would you like to do?" I tell it to uninstall itself but nothing happens. is there anything I can do to disable it?
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Go to settings>applications click the "all" tab and there you can scroll down and locate voice talk. Click on it and then you get several options. One of them should be to disable it.
Great thanks
You've probably seen a ton of complaints on the bad battery life after KitKat upgrade. Google Services is seen at 90+% in battery stats, and the battery is discharging very quickly.
Factory reset is reported to cure the problem. Many are disabling Google Location services. There's also a workaround suggested by Sony, to disable backup and interest-based ads, or uninstall the latest Google Services.
[edit Jul-1-2014]
New Google Play Services 5.0 is now out, and its APK can be downloaded and installed just by searching for it in Google. It's reported to cure the problem for some, temporarily or permanently. It's recommended to try it first, before going with the suggestion below.
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However, there's no need to resort to the above, a much "lighter" solution may work. I've attempted it on my father's ZR and it worked.
Thanks to grim_ripper for mentioning steps that I forgot.
What needs to be done:
1. Go to Settings / Security / Device Administrators, disable Android Device Manager, if enabled.
2. Go to Settings / Apps, disable Google Play Services. It'll ask you to uninstall all updates, agree to it. After disabling it, some of other phone services might crash. Don't mind it.
3. This step might not be required according to the feedback from grim_ripper, however I'll list it "just in case": press "Clear data", or "Control data usage" and then "Clear all data". Make sure that in the Google Play Services app page, it's listed as disabled and has 0kB data usage.
4. Re-enable Google Play Services. Hangouts will immediately ask for its upgrade, get into Google Play Store and upgrade it.
5. Reboot the phone. You should see no crashes at this point.
6. In case you want Android Device Manager to function - go to Settings / Security / Device Administrators and enable it.
That's it, Google Play Services battery usage will be back to normal, and battery life seems even improved over JellyBean.
[edit Jul-13-2014]
The fix might stick for some, and some will find the battery drain coming back after several days. I'm over a month with it, and everything is still fine. However, the results are mixed.
Jack_R1 said:
You've probably seen a ton of complaints on the bad battery life after KitKat upgrade. Google Services is seen at 90+% in battery stats, and the battery is discharging very quickly.
Factory reset is reported to cure the problem. Many are disabling Google Location services. There's also a workaround suggested by Sony, to disable backup and interest-based ads, or uninstall the latest Google Services.
However, there's no need to resort to the above, a much "lighter" solution may work. I've attempted it on my father's ZR and it worked.
What needs to be done:
1. Go to Settings / Apps, disable Google Play Services. It'll ask you to uninstall all updates, agree to it. After disabling it, some of other phone services might crash. Don't mind it.
2. Press "Clear data", or "Control data usage" and then "Clear all data". Make sure that in the app page, it's listed as disabled and has 0kB data usage.
3. Re-enable Google Play Services. Hangouts will immediately ask for its upgrade, get into Google Play Store and upgrade it.
4. Reboot the phone. You should see no crashes at this point.
That's it, Google Play Services battery usage will be back to normal, and battery life seems even improved over JellyBean.
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I confirm that this works, I didn't even clear data.Just disabled android device manager, uninstall google play services, enabled android device manager, re-install play services and finally reboot
Thank you, I completely forgot about Android Device Manager blocking the app disable. With your permission, I'll update the instructions.
I have just tried that thing you posted, will see how the results are in a few days.
One thing I noticed after upgrading to KK is night time for about 8 hours the battery drains 10% while in JB 4.3 it drains about 20% or more.
But the usage draining is similar to JB in KK. Will see if this thing works. Don't like to go to barebones CM11 cause I will be missing on the many features of the phone.
Let's see
It s working here too!
At first, I didn't even thought I had a problem but I looked in the processes and saw this f... Google service running.
Now my batterie last even better than when I was on 4.3.
Thanks
Jack_R1 said:
Thank you, I completely forgot about Android Device Manager blocking the app disable. With your permission, I'll update the instructions.
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No Problem. I found out that this method only works as long as you don't reboot the phone after the fix, otherwise you'll need to do the whole process again. Mine went well until I waited till my battery was fully discharged before charging, hence forcing a reboot which play services started misbehaving again
I just realized a new battery drain problem, the Xperia social services keeps draining my problem
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I just realized a new battery drain problem, the Xperia social services keeps draining my problem
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Oh yes, I have all these disabled. Perhaps this is why I had to restart the phone a couple of times already (changing SIM cards back and forth), and the original Google Services problem didn't come back.
Jack_R1 said:
You've probably seen a ton of complaints on the bad battery life after KitKat upgrade. Google Services is seen at 90+% in battery stats, and the battery is discharging very quickly.
Factory reset is reported to cure the problem. Many are disabling Google Location services. There's also a workaround suggested by Sony, to disable backup and interest-based ads, or uninstall the latest Google Services.
However, there's no need to resort to the above, a much "lighter" solution may work. I've attempted it on my father's ZR and it worked.
Thanks to grim_ripper for mentioning steps that I forgot.
What needs to be done:
1. Go to Settings / Security / Device Administrators, disable Android Device Manager, if enabled.
2. Go to Settings / Apps, disable Google Play Services. It'll ask you to uninstall all updates, agree to it. After disabling it, some of other phone services might crash. Don't mind it.
3. This step might not be required according to the feedback from grim_ripper, however I'll list it "just in case": press "Clear data", or "Control data usage" and then "Clear all data". Make sure that in the Google Play Services app page, it's listed as disabled and has 0kB data usage.
4. Re-enable Google Play Services. Hangouts will immediately ask for its upgrade, get into Google Play Store and upgrade it.
5. Reboot the phone. You should see no crashes at this point.
6. In case you want Android Device Manager to function - go to Settings / Security / Device Administrators and enable it.
That's it, Google Play Services battery usage will be back to normal, and battery life seems even improved over JellyBean.
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I confirm that it works. At least for a week or so - after that the GogglePlayServices problem appeared again....
Dont helps in my case too.
At first it seems that it works, but after a day the google services are again over 75 prozent or so.
Thinking of going back to 4.3 or hoping that a fix will come soon.
Is it necessary to factory reset after update to kit kat to encounter the battery drain problem?
I had these problems and the only save cure is to disable the location services. Some times you would think a solution helps but stucked with an empty Phone suddely is a bad thing.
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Is something known of a fix from Google for the google services?
I ask cause since yesterday evening the akku works normal in my case. Dont see the google services as first in line of accu consumption like before. Seems that everything works fine again.
Lemmi1 said:
Is something known of a fix from Google for the google services?
I ask cause since yesterday evening the akku works normal in my case. Dont see the google services as first in line of accu consumption like before. Seems that everything works fine again.
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After I disabled the location service I see the android system in the second line. And the google services almost at the bottom line. The battery usage still not very good.
Been through several reboots by now, everything enabled, location is used, the problem didn't return, on both mine and my father's phones.
The only thing worth noting is my phone configuration - not rooted, STAMINA mode disabled, Low battery mode disabled, Queue background data disabled, Location-based WiFi enabled.
Waiting patiently for the next Sony update.
OK, the method seems to be obvious.
Does it need to be repeated after every reboot?
I also do not understand why installing the latest Google Play (after removing it the way it is written here) is not bringing the problem back .
Thanks anyway.
By the looks of it, the issue might be caused by user data being present already in Google Services since before the KitKat upgrade, but this is some type of data that's not necessarily present once it's deleted. Maybe some sort of duplication / overloading of data from multiple places, and this changes the order of loading.
one word: AMAZING
after this all the lagging of UI and keyboard is removed.
I was intending to install CM11, but after this fix I think I will stay with stock ROM
Ok this worked well for a couple of days including the UI lag fix but now Play services is destroying my battery again. I'm fed up with my ZR (Bluetooth issues and all) Just ordered a Nexus 5 yay!
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New Google Play Services 5.0 is out, if it didn't reach you yet - you can install it. It stops the battery drain.
Lately, Google updated all their system apps like Google Play, Google "Services" and all that stuff. The problem I had been having was that it was eating away about 60% battery every 4 hours on standby. My phone was really hot all the time. At my job, I'm on my feet and walking around for about 12 hours a day and need to always have my phone on me and be able to receive phone calls. So this was getting really annoying.
I tried numerous methods all over the internet to get it fixed but non of that stuff really did anything. I tried using LBE to deny GPS permissions and that didn't fix it. LBE doesn't have the ability to deny the wakelock or run-during-standby permissions so it wasn't able to help me much more.
I even tried buying the full version of Greenify to hibernate Google Play, Google Services, as well as all the individual apps that spam-sync everything. It worked for like a week but then Google must of updated everything and now it seems to bee immune to Greenify.
Since Google Play services is the one doing most of the battery spamming, I tried to disable it in settings>applications>all but it's blocked from being disabled.
So I have to disable Google Framework. This makes my battery last forever on standby now but it causes problems. First, it makes the gps not seem to work, The gps icons will show, but no apps can get my location. I have checked LBE and it's not blocking anything anymore so that's no what's making gps not work. The other problem is that I get an annoying message telling me that google play services has stopped working. It's only a problem because it's annoying. The third problem is that Google play doesn't work but I don't care about that.
Does anybody know how to make Google Play services disable-able from the applications menu? If not, perhaps there's a way to make those error messages go away and re-enable gps?
I just noticed these issues today usage no different from the past weeks. 1st is I noticed battery drained really quickly with no indication. 2nd is music the equilizer would not work. Idk if the 2nd one deals with the whole ram management issue but it does come back and it's like it's turned half way down
Lots of threads in the forums re: battery drain. For me, my biggest hitters were (1) the stock email app sync and (2) wifi scanning.
I'd suggest going into stock email app settings if you use it and turn sync to manual long enouh to see if it has an impact and make sure your wifi's always allow scanning is unchecked. Then do some reading imto other causes people are niting.
oh, and android 101: shut off location when ur not using it.
Not sure about the EQ but I thought it only works with the stock music app.
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Lots of threads in the forums re: battery drain. For me, my biggest hitters were (1) the stock email app sync and (2) wifi scanning.
I'd suggest going into stock email app settings if you use it and turn sync to manual long enouh to see if it has an impact and make sure your wifi's always allow scanning is unchecked. Then do some reading imto other causes people are niting.
oh, and android 101: shut off location when ur not using it.
Not sure about the EQ but I thought it only works with the stock music app.
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Also, use an automation app such as Tasker to control syncing, wifi, etc.
Yea it didn't die on me today which is good. Will try that tasker
My biggest battery drain was with Google wallet, specifically the NFC Tap & Pay. It's almost as if the Wallet app gets an exclusive hold on the NFC radio & doesn't let go... Finally had to just turn off the NFC radio & the battery drain is much better. .
I have a 300mbps DL and 20+ upload and a 5ghz modem. My s5 has no problem showing 100-200mbps on the speed test app, but my s6 is barely hitting 80mbps. But in real life situations its less then 1mbps. There will be long periods of time for Pandora to load the next song without skipping as well as overall growing the internet is slow. I'm outside my 14 days so I'm hoping its a bug. And that damned screen rotation issue.... My battery has been stellar. But I don't text much or make too many calls from it.
My widgets are very slow to update. It may take him a half hour or longer to update. I have checked battery optimization is not on for those apps, although one of those two apps that I have the problem with background data is grayed out. So I can't turn on allow background data. Not sure why that would be great out.
Any thoughts?
Wunderlist Task List.
DTG/GTD
But, I did some things poking around, don't remember for sure what all, but I had read that changing the Animation Scale etc to .5 would help. I did change that.
Before posting, I had found that Wunderlist was on battery optimization. Changing it didn't appear to help, so I posted. But now, it seems to be working. Maybe it's fixed. I'll post back in a day or two and indicate if it is still working or has stopped again.
Well, no, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that's the only change I made, and at that point it had started working.
Are you having same problem, albeit different widgets?
FYI... mine is now not working again. I'm not surprised. But am frustrated.
Update...
I am finding that it does eventually update. It feels like the phone has been taken over by something. But, then, other things don't seem slow.
I just installed Gsam battery monitor, and ran the ADB cmds to try to identify apps using battery. Maybe I'll find something using a lot of battery and hence cycles.
My battery does seem to be going down quite a bit faster than it should.
It cleared up for a while after a factory reset,But it's back, and, I find that notifications from Lightflow come in 30 minutes after recieved.
It's like the phone is operating in molasses.
I'm beginning to think this phone is crap. If I switch back to my old Mate 9 it works fine.
jd14771 said:
certain apps aren't syncing well with pie. i had this same issue with Beautiful widgets, could not get the weather or time to update unless i manually updated it.
Under <Problem APP's> App Info > Battery
1.A Make sure the app is allowed background activity
1.B Make sure the app is not set to "optimized"
. (note: by default, the optimized list will only show apps that HAVEN'T been optimized, . you have to select "ALL" at the top to see all apps.)
Under <Problem APP's> App Info > Mobile Data
2.A Make sure "allow background data usage" is enabled.
2.B Make sure "allow app while data saver is on" if you have data saver enabled.
. (enable this if you want to be sure an app will receive background data.)
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Thanks for the suggestions. I don't seem to be having any luck with that. Had already done those.
But!! ...
I just found a post after doing a global search for another issue I am having that seems to coincide with the widget issues, which is, Play Store freezing during updates. The post was in a Xaiomi forum. He said that he found if he had blue tooth on, his play store would constantly freeze. He turned off BT, and rebooted, and it worked.
I just did the same thing...and it is working...both the play store, and widget updates.
Interesting to have the great feeling of success, along with the frustration of a new (newly realized) issue yet remaining (BT).
Looking for a little further and through the settings on Bluetooth, I turned off Bluetooth scan. Now at first I would still have problems with Bluetooth on even though Bluetooth to scan was off. That of course would be very quickly after turning it on or off at cetera.
so this morning I get up having left Bluetooth on all night, with scan off, and everything's working fine. I did find last night that when I would first turn Bluetooth on even with skin off, the problems would be there. But of course when you first turn Bluetooth on it's going to scan anyway.
so I will update this thread little later after I see a little more about weather. Just having scan off actually cures the problem, in case someone else runs into this and it helps them.