Hi all,
I'm just curious on what is the right way to make Nandroid backup on the International Note? *I'm used to my AT&T Galaxy Note that only uses 1 CWM version - so I have no clue with the N7000*
So I already know that I have to use the Abyss Kernel to flash in between Custom ROMs.
How about making Nandroid Backup and Restore?
Should I flash Abyss first, then reboot to recovery (from advanced, not restarting the phone) then make the back up or restore from there?
Or should I use the CWM version of the ROM that I last flash that I want to backup (e.g. Alliance ROM)?
Will it affect restoring from different CWM versions?
Thanks!
keplenk said:
Hi all,
I'm just curious on what is the right way to make Nandroid backup on the International Note? *I'm used to my AT&T Galaxy Note that only uses 1 CWM version - so I have no clue with the N7000*
So I already know that I have to use the Abyss Kernel to flash in between Custom ROMs.
How about making Nandroid Backup and Restore?
Should I flash Abyss first, then reboot to recovery (from advanced, not restarting the phone) then make the back up or restore from there?
Or should I use the CWM version of the ROM that I last flash that I want to backup (e.g. Alliance ROM)?
Will it affect restoring from different CWM versions?
Thanks!
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Somehow it will affect, and i am not sure you can restore from diff roms.
nandroid backup procedure is same(going in cwm recovery and do backup)
shivg86 said:
Somehow it will affect, and i am not sure you can restore from diff roms.
nandroid backup procedure is same(going in cwm recovery and do backup)
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Oh ouch .. that is really a good point. So Nandroid does NOT back up CWM?
If it does not, I guess .. I can only restore from nandroid using only one ROM with the same CWM it used.
Hi keplenk =)
I backup and/or restore almost every day. I'm not a cwm-r or android expert at all, just talking from my own experiences.
In the beginning, many months ago, when I just had bought my N7000 I flashed/restored/backup/wiped from all kind of kernels and cwm recovery versions, and it happened that I wasn't able to restore my backups. It was kind of very frustrating from time to time to loose a well tweaked and configured rom. But I was lucky I didn't emmc brick. That I realize today.
Then I changed my cwm-r habits. And I would for backups recommend you just enter cwm-r from whatever rom you are using and make a backup (nandroid). It will backup your kernel and cwm-r too.
To restore I would say it's a good idea to flash Abyss4.2, then REBOOT recovery to full wipe and then restore rom. Make sure you really installed Abyss4.2 and REBOOTED recovery before you wipe because else there could be a risk you end up with a nasty emmc hardbrick depending on if you are on a safe kernel or not. Many people would probably say it's not necessary to wipe, and maybe it isn't. But by the time I didn't it happened once in a while that I got problem with restore, not often at all though, but still it happened a few times. Since I started using this method with wipe, restore has worked fine without any problems hundreds of times (yes, I flash/backup/restore a lot xD, haha).
But once again, I'm just speaking from my own experiences nandroid backup/restore... I don't say it's the proper or best way to do it. It works fine for me though.
Happy Flashing =)
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Hey guys,
I've been using nandroid since my magic days. With my magic, I've had no problems whatsoever always wiping and doing a restore of my old nandroid backups. However, it does not seem to be the case with my captivate for some reasons.
Here are a few methods I've tried:
1) Factory wipe/data reset using clockwork recovery and restore nandroid (which I did with my magic.. not sure why they don't work)
2) Flash to 2.1 stock and do nandroid restore.
3) Flash to the ROM after a wipe that I want to restore to then do nandroid restore.
All three methods allow me to complete nandroid restore but upon reboot it's just non-stop FC city.
Can anyone guide me? Thank you
Nothing to see here, move along.
Thanks bud you are sooo helpful.
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koreancanuck said:
Hey guys,
I've been using nandroid since my magic days. With my magic, I've had no problems whatsoever always wiping and doing a restore of my old nandroid backups. However, it does not seem to be the case with my captivate for some reasons.
Here are a few methods I've tried:
1) Factory wipe/data reset using clockwork recovery and restore nandroid (which I did with my magic.. not sure why they don't work)
2) Flash to 2.1 stock and do nandroid restore.
3) Flash to the ROM after a wipe that I want to restore to then do nandroid restore.
All three methods allow me to complete nandroid restore but upon reboot it's just non-stop FC city.
Can anyone guide me?
I am not sure but do you only have one backup you are trying to use? Could be an issue with backup. Is three any lag fix in the equation? It sucks but if three worst of it is you can flash the rom but not restore your apps then I guess consider your self lucky
Captivate
Cog 2.4
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Yep. I disable my lagfixes before doing restores. To be honest it's not that big of a hassle since I can just use tibu pro and do one click restore for apps and restore my settings as well. And nandroid takes so much longer on captivate than magic D: Still it would be nice to always go back..
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Hello,
I need to know before install Overcome & CWM if it's possible to backup my stock KERNEL. Currently i have 2.6.36.3 kernel.
I think that is better to restore with the original kernel if need to use tha warranty one day ?
So is it possible to backup or download the stock KERNEL.
Thanks a lot for your help.
before you do anything get a nandroid backup and save that original nandroid backup.
Nandroid Backups are a full ROM backup, that means:
Radios
ROMs
Kernels
User Data
Trying to claim a warranty after you violate the terms and services isn't the most honest thing to but if you intent to cheat the warranty system that just hold on to your backup. A nandroid backs up everything
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your reply. For the warranty I am okay with you regarding the honesty.
About the Nandroid ROM backup, i read somewhere that full backup must be done but it backup all except the Kernel !
I am little bit lost :
1/ The KERNEL Backup can be done with Nandroid backup ?
2/ Can we make Nandroid backup with stock ROM & stock Kernel (fresh TAB) ?
3/ The CWM is it a Kernel ?
Thanks a lot.
subtil123 said:
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your reply. For the warranty I am okay with you regarding the honesty.
About the Nandroid ROM backup, i read somewhere that full backup must be done but it backup all except the Kernel !
I am little bit lost :
1/ The KERNEL Backup can be done with Nandroid backup ?
2/ Can we make Nandroid backup with stock ROM & stock Kernel (fresh TAB) ?
3/ The CWM is it a Kernel ?
Thanks a lot.
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CWM stands for clockwordmod, its a custom recovery. You need a custom recovery before you can start changing things about your tablet. It is Not a kernel. Think of a car. A kernel is like eh engine, the recovery is like a toolbox. Its more complicated but thats the idea. The stock recovery is too limited, which is why we have custom ones
When you do a nandroid back up it backs up everything. When you do a nandroid back it backs up the kernel as well as the ROM all of your settings and app data. All in one.
If you want a stock nandroid Do it first thing after you have a custom recovery. A nandroid is saved in the clockwordmod folder. Then save that file somewhere safe. Flash drive computer t whatever.
Hope this helps
subtil123 said:
Hello,
I need to know before install Overcome & CWM if it's possible to backup my stock KERNEL. Currently i have 2.6.36.3 kernel.
I think that is better to restore with the original kernel if need to use tha warranty one day ?
So is it possible to backup or download the stock KERNEL.
Thanks a lot for your help.
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Here is the Flashable zip for backup your Old recovery and kernel
First, You need root
From your stock recovery, Flash backupkernelrecovery.zip.
Approximately 30 seconds, backup process will make a folder "mybackups" in your SD card,
Reboot as normal, and Open "My Files" and see folder "mybackups"..
You'll find 2 file recovery.img(your stock recovery) and boot.img (stock kernel)
For Restore your recovery.img
download overcome cwm from alterbridge86 thread, unzip the file and replace recovery.img from that files with yours..zip again and flash from recovery, reboot and you got your old stock recovery..
Warning: Only restore Stock recovery after nandroid Restore done..with same firmware
Tested on my P7300 and works..
Hello All
Thanks a lot for your help.
I'm now on overcome 2.2.0 with Motley Kernel.
I just done a Nandroid Backup before. I also found on Net a file to restore all, Stock rom & Kernel.
Thanks again.
Hi All,
This might look like a silly question but i am really curious to know.
If i make a nandroid backup with a speedmod k3-13 kernel, then i flash hydracore 5.4. i go to cwm and choose to restore the nandroid backup i made with speedmod, what will happen?
does the nandroid restore ... put the speedmod back in?
sorry for the example but all i wanted to ask was
is it ok to do a nandroid restore made a particular kernel to be restore on a different one ?
nokiamodeln91 said:
Hi All,
This might look like a silly question but i am really curious to know.
If i make a nandroid backup with a speedmod k3-13 kernel, then i flash hydracore 5.4. i go to cwm and choose to restore the nandroid backup i made with speedmod, what will happen?
does the nandroid restore ... put the speedmod back in?
sorry for the example but all i wanted to ask was
is it ok to do a nandroid restore made a particular kernel to be restore on a different one ?
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I haven't tested it on Note but I have tried it on my ealier phones (X10i, Optimus 2X , Desire) and it always worked fine.
Restoring backup will change the kernel too (the one included in backup).
so ideally it should just change the kernel that's included in the backup and restore normally right ?
nokiamodeln91 said:
so ideally it should just change the kernel that's included in the backup and restore normally right ?
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Yes, ideally it will. basically it's like flashing a different rom, I have seen few developers distributing their roms as nandroid backup.
From my personal experience there could be issues if different version of CWM are used for bkup and restore.
I always do as follows and this way works for me with no issues:
1) bkup with any kernel
2) restore with speedmode or abyss 4.2
so if I backup with philz kernel and restore with speedmod won't that be diff version of cwm?
I was using Ultimate ROM XXLSZ_JB_4.1.2_v5.2 without any problems apart from poor battery performance.
However, I attempted to install Rocket ROM-V1-XXLSZ and have now got myself into trouble.
I followed the instructions to flash the latest XXLSZ-OXA cwm kernel and then flashed the Rocket ROM. It worked ok but I would like to return to the Ultimate ROM and kernel I had before.
I have a pevious full Nandroid backup of the phone (made with ROM Manager Premium) of the Ultimate ROM and the PhilZ kernel it came with but cannot restore it. I get the error "MD5 Mismatch" and the restore aborts.
Even if I reflash the original Ultimate ROM with all the usual wipes, the XXLSZ-OXA cwm kernel is still there and I still can't restore from the Nandroid backup. I tried re-flashing PhilZ 3.1 kernel separately and then the Ultimate ROM file but this didn't work either. The kernel is still the same.
Can anyone tell me how to either
1. completely wipe the phone so I can install Ultimate ROM AND the built-in PhilZ 3.1 kernel.
OR
2. get the phone to the point where I can restore from my Nandroid backup which I assume will restore the earlier version of the ROM at the same time.
I hope I've explained the situation clearly enough.
Thanks in advance.
Trevor
Install a cm kernel then wipe your phone then install a fresh ultimate rom and later on advance restore the data
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Go to cwm/backup and restore/misc nandroid setting/ untick md5 check. And try to restore again
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You don't want to restore your nandroid. It is a bad backup.
In philz recovery go to mounts and storage. Format system data preload cache. Them go to advanced from main page and wipe dalvik
Flash ROM. Guaranteed to work.
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Thanks. I know I can flash the ROM again but I was hoping to learn why the Nandroid backup no longer works.
Since posting, I gave up trying to restore the Nandroid backup, did all the usual wipes, re-flashed the Ultimate ROM and re-installed all my apps from scratch so my phone is more or less back to normal (Incidentally, I notice that no matter how many times I do this, all my music and photos are still there even though they're stored on the internal sd card. Dunno why).
Most of the ROMs I've tried have the kernel built in so all I needed to do was do the usual wipes and then flash. If I didn't like the ROM, I just wiped again and restored the Nandroid backup using CWM (Vol Up + Menu + Power) and the phone was back to its previous state.
The only thing I did different this time, as per the Rocket ROM instructions, was flash a kernel first. I may have done something wrong with that step or messed it up somehow. Even when I flashed an earlier version of the PhilZ kernel, the restore still didn't work. I've still a lot to learn about ROMs and Kernels, I guess.
As I said, I have successfully restored from Nandroid backups many times before this without any problem after experimenting with different custom ROMs. Can I ask you why Nandroid is a bad backup? Is it a problem with ROM Manager?
(One problem I've always had with ROM Manager is that if I choose to write the backup to the external sd card, it falls over with error messages. If I choose the option to backup to the internal card, it works but writes the BACKUP TO THE EXT CARD ANYWAY! I cannot get a reply from the dev about this).
Is there a better, more reliable backup method you'd recommend that does the same thing as the Nandroid?
I notice that different ROM managers use different CWM Recovery versions ie ROM Manager Reboot Recovery = 6.0.1.2, ROM Toolbox Rebooter = CWM 6.0.2.8 (same as Vol Up + Menu + Power). Could that be part of the problem?
Sorry for the long winded post.
Trevor
asf58967 said:
You don't want to restore your nandroid. It is a bad backup.
In philz recovery go to mounts and storage. Format system data preload cache. Them go to advanced from main page and wipe dalvik
Flash ROM. Guaranteed to work.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SV using Tapatalk 3
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Hi there,
I recently rooted and flashed a custom ROM onto my Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini. I'm very new to this thing and find everything quite overwhelming, but I want to learn.
I flashed this ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119219 (the v6 No Wipe version because I was petrified about losing my data if I factory reset), but the phone is now extremely laggy and buggy, so I want to go back to the stock ROM (so I can do a nandroid backup) and then try a different custom ROM like Dmod.
So, my question is, do I have to factory reset my phone to go back to stock? Or can I just flash this file (http://hotfile.com/dl/189271016/833...T-I8190N-BTU-I8190NXXALL6-1356151513.zip.html) using the CWN recovery menu without wiping? I'm asking because my phone keeps giving me an error everytime I try to backup using the CWM Recovery menu.
Thanks and if you need me to explain something in further detail, let me know.
YamiWheeler said:
Hi there,
I recently rooted and flashed a custom ROM onto my Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini. I'm very new to this thing and find everything quite overwhelming, but I want to learn.
I flashed this ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119219 (the v6 No Wipe version because I was petrified about losing my data if I factory reset), but the phone is now extremely laggy and buggy, so I want to go back to the stock ROM (so I can do a nandroid backup) and then try a different custom ROM like Dmod.
So, my question is, do I have to factory reset my phone to go back to stock? Or can I just flash this file (http://hotfile.com/dl/189271016/833...T-I8190N-BTU-I8190NXXALL6-1356151513.zip.html) using the CWN recovery menu without wiping? I'm asking because my phone keeps giving me an error everytime I try to backup using the CWM Recovery menu.
Thanks and if you need me to explain something in further detail, let me know.
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That firmware is a zipped odin-file. Can't be flashed in CWM.
Make a cwm nandroid backup of your "/data" to your external sd (that's your installed apps)
You can also backup your apps and appdata using titanium backup or similar, for later restore.
Just remember to never backup/restore systemapps.
Backup internal sd to computer just to be sure, if you in any situation have to make a factory reset. Make sure any kind of backup is on your external sd before you make factory reset, or it will be lost forever
YamiWheeler said:
Hi there,
I recently rooted and flashed a custom ROM onto my Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini. I'm very new to this thing and find everything quite overwhelming, but I want to learn.
I flashed this ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119219 (the v6 No Wipe version because I was petrified about losing my data if I factory reset), but the phone is now extremely laggy and buggy, so I want to go back to the stock ROM (so I can do a nandroid backup) and then try a different custom ROM like Dmod.
So, my question is, do I have to factory reset my phone to go back to stock? Or can I just flash this file (http://hotfile.com/dl/189271016/833...T-I8190N-BTU-I8190NXXALL6-1356151513.zip.html) using the CWN recovery menu without wiping? I'm asking because my phone keeps giving me an error everytime I try to backup using the CWM Recovery menu.
Thanks and if you need me to explain something in further detail, let me know.
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Backup your data in CWM, flash my ROM and restore your data with CWM.
Benzonat0r said:
Backup your data in CWM, flash my ROM and restore your data with CWM.
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CWM has NO choice to backup/restore only parts of the device. Only a full backup is possible.
This is only in TWRP. Pity! I only use CWM because TWRP makes corrupted backups (three times) for me.
Or is it possible to pick out only DATA from the backup? And what is happen with the dalvik cache, which
consists of the byte-code for all installed apps, optimized for the ROM which created it?
"advanced restore and restore only /data". Is this the way in CWM that you mean @benz?
JackoMJ
Yes that's exactly what I meant, "advanced restore and restore only /data"
You don't have to worry about cache and dalvik because it's automatically created on the initial start.
thx for the information Benz (usefull in the future perhaps),
but i´ve decided to use Titanium Backup.
JackoMJ