Hello everybody,
I recently bought a galaxy note (this past saturday) and from day one, I've been having problems with the phone being too laggy. I've noticed that RAM usage never gets below 4-500 and when I open even one app (like facebook or the browser), it immediately spikes up and can get as high as 700+! Surely this is not normal! My Galaxy s2 does not have this problem at all.
Even after a factory reset the problem persists even when I haven't even installed any of my own apps yet! Could this be a hardware issue? It's running on 4.0.4. I've also had FC's. Tried switching to a costum rom (Rocket rom), but it has the exact same problem and even a slightly higher RAM usage.
I took it back to the store the other day, and the salesman pulled out their test phone (which had the exact software as mine) and it seemed to be having the same problems with the lagging and high RAM usage.
HELP!
http://m.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Ismo29 said:
Hello everybody,
I recently bought a galaxy note (this past saturday) and from day one, I've been having problems with the phone being too laggy. I've noticed that RAM usage never gets below 4-500 and when I open even one app (like facebook or the browser), it immediately spikes up and can get as high as 700+! Surely this is not normal! My Galaxy s2 does not have this problem at all.
Even after a factory reset the problem persists even when I haven't even installed any of my own apps yet! Could this be a hardware issue? It's running on 4.0.4. I've also had FC's. Tried switching to a costum rom (Rocket rom), but it has the exact same problem and even a slightly higher RAM usage.
I took it back to the store the other day, and the salesman pulled out their test phone (which had the exact software as mine) and it seemed to be having the same problems with the lagging and high RAM usage.
HELP!
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All I can tell you is that with a CLEAN install, I'm usually sitting around 600 megs used. And then after all my apps (including the ones that are scheduled and such) I sit around the same as you, 700 or more megs used. I feel your pain with the RAM issue. It seems that it's because of all the TW drivers and software. I am really glad that they decided to up the memory in the SG Note 2 to 2GB. I really hope that things do get smoother though with JB at least. But you're not alone.
zkyevolved said:
All I can tell you is that with a CLEAN install, I'm usually sitting around 600 megs used. And then after all my apps (including the ones that are scheduled and such) I sit around the same as you, 700 or more megs used. I feel your pain with the RAM issue. It seems that it's because of all the TW drivers and software. I am really glad that they decided to up the memory in the SG Note 2 to 2GB. I really hope that things do get smoother though with JB at least. But you're not alone.
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Flash gb rom in pc odin and while in gb rom go to CWMR and do the 3 wipes then flash ics rom in pc odin.
Try removing those unnecessary cluttered stock apps that you don't need (thru Titanium Backup), make sure you wipe cache partition & dalvik cache (only) in cwmr.
Reboot recovery and reboot system.. Check again if your still getting the same high Ram usage.
Uninstall google maps & facebook
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http://m.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
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for the sake of future generations, I'd like to reiterate two most important points from the article quoted by AA1973:
- Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
- Task killers are bad.
OP.
It is a legitimate issue if you complain about lag and freezes, but apparently you mentioned only perceived high ram usage.
Read the post above mine.
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Try.n app named ''Smart RAM Booster''
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It is not abt the RAM that u need to worry.
But how good a ROM an kernel manage the RAM for highest performance and good battery life.
That's what all RAM about... Performance!
Same like computer.
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p107r0 said:
for the sake of future generations, I'd like to reiterate two most important points from the article quoted by AA1973:
- Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
- Task killers are bad.
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AMEN!!
I just want my Note to take all my RAM.
Check the developer option under settings tab
No further posts on this I guess but here's what I have observed:
1. Go to settings
2. Go to developer options ( 2nd last option)
3. Select "Background process limit". You will have plenty of options including "No background process".
4. Stop all unwanted running apps in the "applications" -> "running" tab
5. Press the home key for few seconds, you will see some apps shortcut displayed. Swipe it left or right to clear it.
The RAM should stay within limits for a long time. After a reboot the above process might have to be repeated.
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senseVsSTyle said:
No further posts on this I guess but here's what I have observed:
1. Go to settings
2. Go to developer options ( 2nd last option)
3. Select "Background process limit". You will have plenty of options including "No background process".
4. Stop all unwanted running apps in the "applications" -> "running" tab
5. Press the home key for few seconds, you will see some apps shortcut displayed. Swipe it left or right to clear it.
The RAM should stay within limits for a long time. After a reboot the above process might have to be repeated.
My Gtn 7000 details:
Android version 4.04
Baseband ver n7000ddlr1
Kernel ver
3.0.15- 1163394
[email protected] #3
Build no. IMM76D.DDLRB
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using dev options and limiting the process causes random refreshing of homescreen and apps not to work properly.
using multiwindow is also very difficult.
apps closes away some time while navigating away..
Using the App section of Dev options is not a very good idea on a daily run.
I've been suffering this alot with JB/ICS rom, my favorite thing to do after flashing a new ROM is to remove all the bloat wares, but that doesn't help with the high RAM usage (always uses up to 700MB+). So, I decided to flash back to JB a few days ago, and guess what, I open 7-8 apps at the same time with RAM usage is about 500-650MB.
As I read here and there, GPU rendering consumes more RAM, so...I think you get the idea
Source: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/graphics/hardware-accel.html
And with JB, memory leak is even worse.
Unfortunately ram managers do nothing in increasing performance or battery life its a complete myth. Ram itself is only accessed when needed for backup or temporary storage of small files. The ram management on Android will utilise as much as it can with usual apps used and system management. It has no effect on battery or performance UNTIL you have a leak on the rom which does happen.
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Visit This site on your Note to increase RAM
SpyderTracks said:
Unfortunately ram managers do nothing in increasing performance or battery life its a complete myth. Ram itself is only accessed when needed for backup or temporary storage of small files. The ram management on Android will utilise as much as it can with usual apps used and system management. It has no effect on battery or performance UNTIL you have a leak on the rom which does happen.
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I've always believed that free RAM is wasted RAM! Don't care too much about RAM consumption! Android is good enough to deal with RAM without task managers (actually they're more harmful than helpful!)
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azzledazzle said:
Visit This site on your Note to increase RAM
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Oh yeah! Is there an OTG cable to connect a DDR ram on note? :banghead:
nokiamodeln91 said:
Oh yeah! Is there an OTG cable to connect a DDR ram on note? :banghead:
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Im in my laboratory currently developing it
azzledazzle said:
Im in my laboratory currently developing it
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On You Go good sir, if you manage it can I get a freebie? Sure you could email it to me?
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Hey guys just got my galaxy note 2 days ago. And i've noticed the battery is insanely terrible. I don't know if this is normal among all galaxy note users but well i'll post the pics and let you decide. Basically my Galaxy note sits on my table doing nothing while i use my galaxy s2. So i doubt its due to me fiddling with it.
Please i beg of you someone help me perhaps changing my kernel or something, from what i see alot of the kernels are unstable. Thanks a bunch guys the pics have been attached btw.
Looking at the image, you do have WiFi and constantly with roughly half the time with the phone awake, whether you use it or not just having the WiFi switched on is gonna have an affect on the battery.
Looks like something is keeping your phone awake. If your phone sits there and does nothing with the screen off, I got almost 2 days out of it.
Plus is your phone rooted or stock?
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Looks like something is keeping your phone awake. If your phone sits there and does nothing with the screen off, I got almost 2 days out of it.
Plus is your phone rooted or stock?
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My phone is completely stock FOB
Ah ok that reminds me i saw a video on youtube a few guys said that the galaxy note if running on wifi really slams the battery. Ok noted.
Also one more issue i have an app killer running on my phone if you noticed at the top. Once in a while i clear the memory and it says i got like 500+mb of free memory, then for some reason later when i power on the phone and clear memory again it says i only got like 200+mb of free memory. The usage of memory seems to fluctuate randomly any idea on this?
You could try and download betterbatterystats and see what is keeping your phone from sleeping. The pictures you put up suggest that your phone is not sleeping during standby.
100% wifi fault, install GreenPower and your problems will be gone.
One more thing to disable is the voice talk wake up command:
Double click the home button, press menu then settings, scroll to "Wake up Command" and if it's enabled disable it.
after making those two changes I've gone from 8 hours of moderate use to almost 20.
Good luck!
kamale said:
My phone is completely stock FOB
Ah ok that reminds me i saw a video on youtube a few guys said that the galaxy note if running on wifi really slams the battery. Ok noted.
Also one more issue i have an app killer running on my phone if you noticed at the top. Once in a while i clear the memory and it says i got like 500+mb of free memory, then for some reason later when i power on the phone and clear memory again it says i only got like 200+mb of free memory. The usage of memory seems to fluctuate randomly any idea on this?
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WHY are you using an app killer? The result is that it (the app killer) kills your open apps and then Android will start them up again, and it will use more battery since it has to start apps over and over again. What's the point of having 1GB RAM if you're not going to use it?!
Android can manage the RAM itself. Android is not Windows.
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mfractal said:
100% wifi fault, install GreenPower and your problems will be gone.
One more thing to disable is the voice talk wake up command:
Double click the home button, press menu then settings, scroll to "Wake up Command" and if it's enabled disable it.
after making those two changes I've gone from 8 hours of moderate use to almost 20.
Good luck!
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BazookaAce said:
WHY are you using an app killer? The result is that it (the app killer) kills your open apps and then Android will start them up again, and it will use more battery since it has to start apps over and over again. What's the point of having 1GB RAM if you're not going to use it?!
Android can manage the RAM itself. Android is not Windows.
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Thank you very much my friends, my utmost gratitude. Will be running with no wifi, no app killer, no wake up command from that voice thing and with green power premium on. Shall see the improvements today, i must add galaxy note is such a beautiful piece of art.
Yeah, sorry about sounding like an ass, but i'm just sick of people using app killers when they don't need to
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Yeah, sorry about sounding like an ass, but i'm just sick of people using app killers when they don't need to
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No worries, it was well delivered and its a good slap to noobs like me to learn things quick LOL
If i ever decide to flash kernel and get a rom, any suggestions?
Let us know how it worked out
i tried almost every ics rom and at start they all were very fast but after some time they become much much slow. any solution for this
Can this be because of your installed applications and overall system debris.
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No not like that. I installed vry few apps but stil it gets slow. I tried Docs rom, slim rom even every 1 but they all get slow after some time. I always do full wipe and than instal clean fresh rom
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How much time passes before the system starts to run slower?
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Try restarting your phone, wiping up all the cache. Maybe this might help.
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I have exactly the same problem. Wiping cashe through CWM doesn't change anything, it still gets slower after a few hours or a day max.
I have SE xperia neo v, rooted, unlocked bootloader, rom pureness 11, kernel nightelf 1.4. It gets so slow it actually refreshes/crashes (not sure) ex launcher pro and I can't do anything but reboot. Then everything is great and very fast at the beginning and then gets slower.
There is about 70mb RAM both at the beginning and later when it gets slow so I suppose it's not the full ram problem? CPU is also mostly free, I check if games are not running in background so that is not the problem as well. Internal space: about 85mb free and a few GB free on SD.
I have lots of apps installed (about 50) but I think it would slow my mobile from the very beginning after reboot?
Any advice?
I'm no expert on these devices, but I can tell you what I do to help with this problem... I simply hold the home button down until the recent apps show and then slide them off the screen. My phone runs OK for a few hours until I rinse and repeat...
arkhadius said:
I have exactly the same problem. Wiping cashe through CWM doesn't change anything, it still gets slower after a few hours or a day max.
I have SE xperia neo v, rooted, unlocked bootloader, rom pureness 11, kernel nightelf 1.4. It gets so slow it actually refreshes/crashes (not sure) ex launcher pro and I can't do anything but reboot. Then everything is great and very fast at the beginning and then gets slower.
There is about 70mb RAM both at the beginning and later when it gets slow so I suppose it's not the full ram problem? CPU is also mostly free, I check if games are not running in background so that is not the problem as well. Internal space: about 85mb free and a few GB free on SD.
I have lots of apps installed (about 50) but I think it would slow my mobile from the very beginning after reboot?
Any advice?
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Snevey said:
I'm no expert on these devices, but I can tell you what I do to help with this problem... I simply hold the home button down until the recent apps show and then slide them off the screen. My phone runs OK for a few hours until I rinse and repeat...
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Thanks, I will try it when the phone gets slow again and let you know it it helped.
Edit:
Nope, that's not it at all. Deleted everything from recent apps the way you told. Go launcher EX is right now turning on and off constantly, most of apps that are usually open have long since closed themselves. I have to reboot, there's nothing else I can do.
Edit 2:
I have deleted a few apps that I don't or rarely use and 4/5 of games I had. It stopped crashing my launcher and I don't have to reboot anymore. So I guess it was just too many apps and games (unless on the way I've done sth else that helped that I'm not aware of).
I've had some performance issue with my Optimus 2X for a while now. It really seems like a memory problem because let's say I unlock my phone, and just want to swipe the pages, it'll hang there for a couple seconds, then it will swipe the page in a very choppy way. But after a couple swipes (3-4), it becomes normal and fluid. This is just an exemple, often I'll try be doing something on my phone and it'll just take forever to load and it will end up saying "xxxx isn't responding, do you want to close it, WAIT, REPORT, OK". Then I just click wait and everything is fine for a little while.. another exemple: Just now I had my GF send me a text message, I click the txt box to reply and it took close to 10sec for my Swiftkey keyboard to show up.
I had been running CM7 for a while and recently decided I could try other Roms/Kernel and it might just help..A month or so ago I went in Paranoid Android, but if anything the phone was even slower.
Last week I went with CM10. At first the phone seemed more responsive but the more apps I reinstalled and the more widgets I put, it slowly became the same again.
I had some free time today and decided to investigate a little further. First a look in the System Tuner Pro app, I noticed my memory was almost full (<100mb left) right after a fresh reboot! There was about 250mb in use.. Then I looked in my "About Phone" page already and it says I have 342mb of memory! isn't this phone suposed to have 512mb?
Screenshot : http://i.imgur.com/nZNAh6U.png
Well I think this could explain a lot, but wtf is happening to my phone. I can't really tell when exactly the "being slow" started, it seems like it started gradually.
It's been a very frustrating phone in the last couple of months, I decided to end my contract as soon as can get my hand on a Note3, but until then I use my phone a lot.. and need it to work properly.
**edit** : Ok nevermind the 342mb, I searched the forum a little and found out the rest (170mb) is used by the Video Memory. Well, anyway, my phone is slow either way, so hopefully you guys have ideas that could help me, perhaps just tell me tools that could help me find the problem, anything...
Patbach said:
I've had some performance issue with my Optimus 2X for a while now. It really seems like a memory problem because let's say I unlock my phone, and just want to swipe the pages, it'll hang there for a couple seconds, then it will swipe the page in a very choppy way. But after a couple swipes (3-4), it becomes normal and fluid. This is just an exemple, often I'll try be doing something on my phone and it'll just take forever to load and it will end up saying "xxxx isn't responding, do you want to close it, WAIT, REPORT, OK". Then I just click wait and everything is fine for a little while.. another exemple: Just now I had my GF send me a text message, I click the txt box to reply and it took close to 10sec for my Swiftkey keyboard to show up.
I had been running CM7 for a while and recently decided I could try other Roms/Kernel and it might just help..A month or so ago I went in Paranoid Android, but if anything the phone was even slower.
Last week I went with CM10. At first the phone seemed more responsive but the more apps I reinstalled and the more widgets I put, it slowly became the same again.
I had some free time today and decided to investigate a little further. First a look in the System Tuner Pro app, I noticed my memory was almost full (<100mb left) right after a fresh reboot! There was about 250mb in use.. Then I looked in my "About Phone" page already and it says I have 342mb of memory! isn't this phone suposed to have 512mb?
Screenshot : http://i.imgur.com/nZNAh6U.png
Well I think this could explain a lot, but wtf is happening to my phone. I can't really tell when exactly the "being slow" started, it seems like it started gradually.
It's been a very frustrating phone in the last couple of months, I decided to end my contract as soon as can get my hand on a Note3, but until then I use my phone a lot.. and need it to work properly.
**edit** : Ok nevermind the 342mb, I searched the forum a little and found out the rest (170mb) is used by the Video Memory. Well, anyway, my phone is slow either way, so hopefully you guys have ideas that could help me, perhaps just tell me tools that could help me find the problem, anything...
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This is a common problem of our phone due to the low amount of ram, as you said, 512mb, they are simply not enough. Why do you think most recent phones come with 4 time bigger amount of ram (2gb)?
Man, to keep thus old phone responsive, you have to choose the best rom / kernel for you, and setup them for your needs, first find your favourite rom / kernel, I can suggest you what I personally use, therom cm10.2 by tonyp with kowalsky m1 with 32mb ramhack, for me is the best at the moment, but after all, it is a personal choice, there are a lot of good roms. Well, if you want more ram, so multitask, then you have to use a kernel with ramhack, at least 18% ram spended I'm zram, and something like value 60 of swappiness
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Also, I saw you have many notification of apps in your status bar.. This is a phone with a low amount of ram remember it. You seriously can't keep all this app installed, especially if they send you any kind of notification, because if they do it this means they take ram = less ram available = slow phone.
Listen to me. This will surely help you. If you don't still using it, you must try the app GREENIFY, it hibernate, means that if a app takes ram, it will no longer take it = free ram = fast phone!
But if you do it of course you will not receive any notification from it, but it's certainly worth it. What is the sense to multitasking from notification to notification if the switch takes 1 year to do?
For example I greenifyed Facebook, which I don't need in ram as I deactivated any notification service from the app but without GREENIFY it still suck like 45 mb of ram, while doing anything, with greenify it doesn't suck anything! Same thing for Google maps, YouTube, and all other apps that suck memory when I don't need them to, but sometimes I use them so I need to keep them installed, but anyway don't use so many apps that aren't indispensable keeped in ram, because they suck ram, and everything sucks ram sucks the general speed of the phone and a bit of battery remember it. My personal suggestion is when you see that a app that you won't greenify because you need its notification sucks much ram, like 15mb.. 20.. Etc, my suggestion is: unistall it, or if you won't to at least greenify it and use it only when you need to see the app itself, then when you're done greenify it again. and hey, saving ram means that you will save battery too. So speed + multitask + battery. What else?
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Yea it looks worse than it is. Out of the 6 icons on top, there's really just 3 that I use.
3G watchdog to keep track of my data plan
Lux autobrightness
Weather app
The 3 other icons were just
USB debugging cuz the phone was pluged
System tuner pro, was currently recording data so I could analyze my problem.
And the last app I was testing to monitor bandwitdth (turns out it did take to much resource)
Also earlier today I installed a memory manager app named Memory Booster, it did seem to help .. just a little.
But alright, I'll give Greenify a try as well.. it sounds good
edit: So far it looks very good, I've freed much more ram with this. But I accidently hide some apps, anyway to bring them back in the list?
Patbach said:
3G watchdog to keep track of my data plan
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stock android data counter does the good job without using any 3rd party apps...
Greenify worked magic, it's night and day with my phone now, good catch.
Patbach said:
Yea it looks worse than it is. Out of the 6 icons on top, there's really just 3 that I use.
3G watchdog to keep track of my data plan
Lux autobrightness
Weather app
The 3 other icons were just
USB debugging cuz the phone was pluged
System tuner pro, was currently recording data so I could analyze my problem.
And the last app I was testing to monitor bandwitdth (turns out it did take to much resource)
Also earlier today I installed a memory manager app named Memory Booster, it did seem to help .. just a little.
But alright, I'll give Greenify a try as well.. it sounds good
edit: So far it looks very good, I've freed much more ram with this. But I accidently hide some apps, anyway to bring them back in the list?
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If you hide something, just press menu button - show all
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After 8 months google finally fix the memory leak in android lollipop. Thanks :crying::crying: Am I dreaming?
Having the memory load increasing is not, in itself, a memory leak.
The Nexus 5 comes with 2 Gb of RAM, the goal is not to have memory load below 300 mb in every case (or you can buy a 512 mb-RAM smartphone)
The leak is a bug in memory management which increase memory load without any limit, thus slowing the device and crashing it. I did not experience this under 5.1 with Franco and stock kernel.
I can confirm that franco kernel does not solve the issue. For me the issue is easily reproduced by opening farm heroes saga and swiping it away, After a couple of times the system ram goes up to 1.4gig
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I can confirm that franco kernel does not solve the issue. For me the issue is easily reproduced by opening farm heroes saga and swiping it away, After a couple of times the system ram goes up to 1.4gig
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This is kind of interesting. I wonder if the system management is to blame or apps themselves.
jlmcr87 said:
I found a solution. If you change the kernel (for example Franco kernel) all problems are solved.
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did you write about this in bug tracker ? if not plz write so they can look where need to change some thing.
and btw to be frank i'm not having any memory leak or any other buy on 5.1 and i feels everything even better than KK also battery life is as good as KK after 5.1 for me
and finally did you do factory reset After flashing factory image ? if not do it , it seems unnecessary to lot of ppl to F.reset after fresh install but it does solve many problem so do it if you didn't and remember it for every time you flash the rom :good:
Issue stared and '+1 confirmed'.
Can someone mark the bug as critical?
jineshpatel30 said:
did you write about this in bug tracker ? if not plz write so they can look where need to change some thing.
and btw to be frank i'm not having any memory leak or any other buy on 5.1 and i feels everything even better than KK also battery life is as good as KK after 5.1 for me
and finally did you do factory reset After flashing factory image ? if not do it , it seems unnecessary to lot of ppl to F.reset after fresh install but it does solve many problem so do it if you didn't and remember it for every time you flash the rom :good:
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The same problem with franco kernel, bad luck.
To recreate the problem, simply start a game like Farm Heroes Saga, then close it by swiping away. For each time I do this the system memory increases 100mb or more until there is no more space and then cell phone stops responding. Additional I noticed than when I start Farm Heroes Saga for example the free memory on ‘Show Cache Processes’ is negative as can be seen on the print I took, and there is no free memory, this problem can be recreated even in the first minute after boot simply by starting the game.
i don t know if is due to the memory leak but after 3 days (fresh factory image flash) i m facing the annoying launcher redraw and high system memory usage:780 mb with 1,2 gb of peak
jlmcr87 said:
The same problem with franco kernel, bad luck.
To recreate the problem, simply start a game like Farm Heroes Saga, then close it by swiping away. For each time I do this the system memory increases 100mb or more until there is no more space and then cell phone stops responding. Additional I noticed than when I start Farm Heroes Saga for example the free memory on ‘Show Cache Processes’ is negative as can be seen on the print I took, and there is no free memory, this problem can be recreated even in the first minute after boot simply by starting the game.
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I dont want to create a seperate thread so I am asking here. Got Nexus 5 a few days ago, started reading about 5.1 update and memory leak issue. Tried to update to 5.1 but gave up(usb driver issue). Today I noticed that ram usage for apps increases and does not drop down after shutting down apps (games mainly). System ram is constantly about 300-400 but app ram got from 300 to over 600 in about 6 hours. Is this also a memory leak or maybe apps just do not completely shut down?
Memory going up does not mean there is a memory leak, it means memory no longer in use has not yet been garbage collected which is fine.
Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Isnt suppost Linux do same memory management with 2GB or 3GB of Ram?
Wich leads me to if KK,JB and ICS didnt had this memory leak problem how come this happens in LP?
That is one thing that I dont understand....
surrealjam said:
Yes, I wouldn't go purely on what the stats say in Settings > Apps > Running.
I haven't made my mind up yet - memory usage according to that screen is even higher than it was on 5.0.1 yet apps aren't killed anywhere near as often. Of course, it's early days though.
It's been said before, but sadly the new "norm" is now becoming 3GB RAM for high-end devices... and most new versions of Android are going to aimed at running best on the new handsets. I suppose that's to be expected.
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Of course it is,just to force older phones users to buy new high end Android smartphones with more RAM. Now 3GB of RAM s getting standart,next year 3GB of RAM will get too little and 4GB of RAM will become a standart and so on..This is how marketing works.
My N5 (Factory Reset then Flashed Factory Image then Factory Reset) is up since 73 Hours, it uses acutally 490MB RAM for System and 898MB RAM for Apps,
in these 73 Hourse the App-Drawer was not redrawed once. I hope it will run like this for a long time.
The only thing that hasnt work, was the flashing with the Flash-All.bat.
Simonna said:
Of course it is,just to force older phones users to buy new high end Android smartphones with more RAM. Now 3GB of RAM s getting standart,next year 3GB of RAM will get too little and 4GB of RAM will become a standart and so on..This is how marketing works.
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exactly ! but ppl need to understand that what they need with phone.
i don't see any app that need more than 2GBs for ram on market plus multitasking is exceptional in N5 for me bcz i don't use tons of chatting apps who always runs and eats all resources of phone , i use heavy games and N5 still works great with highest graphics...and i bet none of Samsung or any other premium devices works with them as impressive as this 1.5yr old device still do ! so for me N5 is still more than enough
phone shouldn't be excessive better in specs than what you wants from phone. Bcz it does't make any sanse unless one have lots of money and he/she only want to waste it one way or another
I thought this was fixed at first. I picked up my phone this morning and went to check news and the whole thing was froze for like 5 seconds then starting working, but stuttering. Do I checked apps and low and behold I had about ten apps restarting, just like in the previous lollipop. Except this time I only see half my apps restarting (so far) instead of nearly all of them.
Cum said:
My N5 (Factory Reset then Flashed Factory Image then Factory Reset) is up since 73 Hours, it uses acutally 490MB RAM for System and 898MB RAM for Apps,
in these 73 Hourse the App-Drawer was not redrawed once. I hope it will run like this for a long time.
The only thing that hasnt work, was the flashing with the Flash-All.bat.
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sounds like almost my case
I've read several android blogs they claim damaging, HTC, ect have fixed the memory leak in their roms (although I heard people claim this in cm12 also). Just out of curiosity can anyone confirm this is true?
I tried loading and swiping CoC 5 times and my free Ram still remains at 1200.
My battery life has definitely gotten significantly worse after 5.1. Drained over 20% in just an hour with very light usage.
Can anyone link me to a custom rom that gets rid of the memory leak present in Note 4 on 5.0.1. It's crazy that Samsung would even release 5.0.1 they should have skipped straight to 5.1. My ram usage will not go below 2.1GB. I have tried Clean Master, Battery Doctor, Rebooting and Force Kill.
It has to be a custom rom with Touchwiz not Cyanogenmod because I love the Note 4 features
there isnt any memory leak on any samsung lollipop only s6 has it.
I've never seen my Note 4 even get to 2GB in use, ever. What are you running to get it so high?
darkbahamut said:
I've never seen my Note 4 even get to 2GB in use, ever. What are you running to get it so high?
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He's not the only one. Ive frozen most of the services and apps and the memory use is over 2gb 99%+ of the time
kalinskym said:
Can anyone link me to a custom rom that gets rid of the memory leak present in Note 4 on 5.0.1. It's crazy that Samsung would even release 5.0.1 they should have skipped straight to 5.1. My ram usage will not go below 2.1GB. I have tried Clean Master, Battery Doctor, Rebooting and Force Kill.
It has to be a custom rom with Touchwiz not Cyanogenmod because I love the Note 4 features
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My only question is: Have you seen any drawbacks in usage or it is just the effect that you are looking at the available ram and you see it over 2GB and assume it is wrong? Because let me say this: Note 4 and 5.0.1 does not have memory leak. Did you experience apps crashing on a regular basis?The "memory leak" basically stops RAM from clearing out automatically and disallowing other underlying processes to make use of the space. This in turn results in the apps getting killed or crashing automatically. I assume not...apps crashing constantly is the first sign of a memory leak. The only memory leaks reported were on Nexus devices and Google patched them. So basically...free ram is wasted ram on an Android platform. And if this high usage that you see (over 2gb) does not cause apps crashing and phone slower you have nothing to worry about it's just your OS working as it should Cheers!
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He's not the only one. Ive frozen most of the services and apps and the memory use is over 2gb 99%+ of the time
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Where are you seeing that figure? If it's in the touchwiz memory manager than that's a misleading figure since it count cached applications in it's figure which isn't really used memory. You need to check the real Android memory stats to see the real usage.
Im using task manger. this is with all apps killed.
K, thank you for the quick replies. It says a lot in Clean Master 85% of available memory is being used and wanting me to keep having to boost the phone. Have you guys notice any poor battery life with Bluetooth on running lollipop? Can't seem to get half a day usage even with the screen off. It also says in Task Manager 2GB+ is being used. I keep clearing it, but it does not go down. Could it be because gear manager won't close, as it will disconnect my Gear S
No problem here
I hope
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K, thank you for the quick replies. It says a lot in Clean Master 85% of available memory is being used and wanting me to keep having to boost the phone. Have you guys notice any poor battery life with Bluetooth on running lollipop? Can't seem to get half a day usage even with the screen off. It also says in Task Manager 2GB+ is being used. I keep clearing it, but it does not go down. Could it be because gear manager won't close, as it will disconnect my Gear S
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You have only one problem to resolve. Deinstall Clean Master, don't believe in phone "boost" and some unpossible clean effect.
If you haven't problems with applications crash or freeze your "problem" doesn't exist.
Bluetooth has significant influence on battery life. Not services, but bluetooth radio itself.
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Stop killing apps with ram booster. It will make your phone slower in reopening apps and consume more battery. Search for some articles on Google to find out why the ram cleaners or launchers with ram cleanear included are so bad for your phone. Android has a very good ram management and you don't need other programs. If you want to see less consumption on your ram disable or uninstall the apps you don't use. Try to open and close a simple task like phone book and after try the same thing after you killed the process with a ram cleaner. You will see that it takes a long time to re-open, and also your procesor will work harder to open the app.
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I'm still going over some logcats but I'm positive the way 5.0 handles RAM is a problem. Haven't been able to pinpoint the issue yet but 5.0 is definitely allocating memory differently than 4.4 and not necessarily in the best way.
Why am I doing any of this? Because fun of course, but also because I noticed home screen redraws were becoming more frequent, and apps were refreshing when a device that has 3gb of RAM shouldn't experience too often. When compared to my Note 3 on 4.4, side by side, running some taxing apps, I've seen a substantial difference.
K thank you. Will uninstall Clean Master and see if my performance improves. Report back. Anyone found a way to open camera when rooted without unlocking phone with fingerprint by double tapping home button. Sorry about posting it in this fourms, just wondering. Hope the Zerolemon battery case improves my battery life, getting it soon. Heard it's not very accurate being that it has 3 batteries and the phone doesn't always get the right reading
I have the same thing here even i noticed apps need to refresh when multitasking frequently
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i think there are a few leaks in 5.0.1, so far we have 1 leak fixed in the kernel and 1 in the rom (thanks to robocik) but ram usage remains high.
not that that is a bad thing...apps only open faster, so that's good, but especially the touchwiz redraws are insane after a while.
every time you press the home button or the greenify button, it redraws the launcher completely.
so even after 2 fixes it's still present
Psycho_666 said:
i think there are a few leaks in 5.0.1, so far we have 1 leak fixed in the kernel and 1 in the rom (thanks to robocik) but ram usage remains high.
not that that is a bad thing...apps only open faster, so that's good, but especially the touchwiz redraws are insane after a while.
every time you press the home button or the greenify button, it redraws the launcher completely.
so even after 2 fixes it's still present
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im using totaly stock and my ram usage is 1.83 gb constantly with tw launcher and nova makes it 1.6 or something. never saw a single launcher redraw on note 4 and ram usage was totaly same for me on kitkat too. im having serious ram issues on s6 but didnt see any problem with note 4 lollipop
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im using totaly stock and my ram usage is 1.83 gb constantly with tw launcher and nova makes it 1.6 or something. never saw a single launcher redraw on note 4 and ram usage was totaly same for me on kitkat too. im having serious ram issues on s6 but didnt see any problem with note 4 lollipop
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odd, if i don't use greenify and just stock touchwiz i have an average of 2.3Gb of ram in use
and it redraws the launcher on every press on the home button
thankfully the n4 doesn't have it as bad as the s6, but it could be a lot better
Never had a launcher redraw using Nova and Servicely to kill apps on screen off. I'm running at around 2.2GB of ram usage always.
Psycho_666 said:
odd, if i don't use greenify and just stock touchwiz i have an average of 2.3Gb of ram in use
and it redraws the launcher on every press on the home button
thankfully the n4 doesn't have it as bad as the s6, but it could be a lot better
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dunno generally i dont even close any app and i dont have any problem with ram or multitasking.
Seems like the majority of users in this fourms use Nova Launcher. Does it decrease the ram usage. At the moment I am running Flow Home, I think it redraws everytime the home button is pressed.