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New Leak .235

I didn't upload. @unchoney over at droid hive uploaded to here.
http://www.megashare.com/4392491

josdad00 said:
I didn't upload. @unchoney over at droid hive uploaded to here.
http://www.megashare.com/4392491
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If you install this you CANNOT go back to GB ever.

mattlgroff said:
If you install this you CANNOT go back to GB ever.
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And why is that? I've been running SamauriHL's script to keep my data and update since .2233

zoompastu said:
And why is that? I've been running SamauriHL's script to keep my data and update since .2233
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Because the FXZ back to .902 is BLOCKED on the new release.

Worse yet, you can't go forward without a full 905 or ICS FXZ, either. If you do this leak, you WILL be stuck. If you attempt to FXZ to 902, you will soft brick your phone. You have been warned.

Dumb. You would think that our feedback on the leaks might help MOTO's development. It's as if they locked this one down as some form of revenge...
Glad I didn't update yet. I'lda gone nuclear.

It's the same thing they did on the D4 and RAZR. Except they had an FXZ for the version they were updating to ICS from. We don't. If we had a full 905 FXZ we could make this work to go forward. Once on 235+, however, there's NO going back to GB ever. And right now without an FXZ for 905 or the OTA ICS, 235 ain't going forward, either. That's what I call BAD.

Does someone have some method of completely obliterating data and dropping back the FXZ or some other form of information? Even if it's just some sort thing that only they can do.
Man, I don't get this one.
I'm not doing this one, that's for sure. Is ANYONE going to do that?
Thanks for the warning though!
and I feel bad for the poor fool who had to find out the hard way that it was a finality.

No one HAD to install it to find out. We ran the security checker on it and it showed us what we were dealing with. The person who posted the initial link did get impatient and installed it before we were able to check it. Now he's stuck.

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...and I feel bad for the poor fool who had to find out the hard way that it was a finality.
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I almost was that fool. I downloaded the file and hit the refresh button to see if there were anymore posts before updating my phone. Glad I did!

zoompastu said:
I almost was that fool. I downloaded the file and hit the refresh button to see if there were anymore posts before updating my phone. Glad I did!
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Same here but I was lurking Droidhive and found out there was no going back lol

SamuriHL said:
No one HAD to install it to find out. We ran the security checker on it and it showed us what we were dealing with. The person who posted the initial link did get impatient and installed it before we were able to check it. Now he's stuck.
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Well that's good for most people, and good that it was able to be spotted before too much damage was done over all...
I am just failing to see the logic of putting out an open source piece of software that locks you into it. The only thing I can see is that the leaks have bothered the OS builder and this is their way of stopping us from using them.

By the way Thank you SamuraiHL for that Awesome script you wrote to update with these leaks. Works GREAT!!

BasPilot said:
Well that's good for most people, and good that it was able to be spotted before too much damage was done over all...
I am just failing to see the logic of putting out an open source piece of software that locks you into it. The only thing I can see is that the leaks have bothered the OS builder and this is their way of stopping us from using them.
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I can give you the logic. 235 is most likely a release candidate that they feel strongly will be the OTA. And moto has put a frack ton of effort into getting all the ICS builds on the different devices to be the same. This is less of a support headache for them. By locking devices to ICS only, the support costs go down for both moto and VZW because the builds are functionally identical. That's my guess.
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zoompastu said:
By the way Thank you SamuraiHL for that Awesome script you wrote to update with these leaks. Works GREAT!!
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You're very welcome.

SamuriHL said:
I can give you the logic. 235 is most likely a release candidate that they feel strongly will be the OTA. And moto has put a frack ton of effort into getting all the ICS builds on the different devices to be the same. This is less of a support headache for them. By locking devices to ICS only, the support costs go down for both moto and VZW because the builds are functionally identical. That's my guess.
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Can't they just end support for that saying you need to upgrade to our latest software and this will fix most of your problems if not all?
Either way, correct or incorrect on your part, it'll be fun to watch ideas thrown around by people and it will REALLY be fun to see one of you geniuses come up with a way around it. You know you will. 24 hours and one of you will crack the nut.

Don't look at me! I'm not one of those geniuses. You're talking about people like mattigroff, cellzealot, p3droid, dhacker, etc. Those are the guys who will crack this issue. What we REALLY need to solve this is the damn 905 FXZ. I've put out a request for it but I have no idea if I'll hear back from the person I asked or even if they have it. If we had that, we have a way forward.

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I am just failing to see the logic of putting out an open source piece of software that locks you into it. The only thing I can see is that the leaks have bothered the OS builder and this is their way of stopping us from using them.
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Agreed.

Open source doesn't mean that you can change the finished builds of the software or roll back after you install an update, it just means that you can make your own version using the source. The OS itself is open source, but the phones don't have to be fully open, and none of Motorola's since the DROID have been, at least on VZW.

BasPilot said:
Well that's good for most people, and good that it was able to be spotted before too much damage was done over all...
I am just failing to see the logic of putting out an open source piece of software that locks you into it. The only thing I can see is that the leaks have bothered the OS builder and this is their way of stopping us from using them.
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The problem is your trying to talk logic while talking about Moto. Experience shows the two don't play well, people have been warning this would probably happen sooner or later throughout the ICS leak cycle.

Well, some of us theorize this marks the end of the ICS leak cycle and represents what's likely to be the soak candidate, but, we'll have to wait and see.

AT&T Lollipop update releaed..

Lucky me, just got my Note 4 yesterday and checked for software updates just now and low and behold I'm receiving Lollipop, its a 1161.38mb download..

you sure it's lollipop? i know my note 4 received two updates in the past month.

Getting an update on SM-N10A(stock. not rooted) on ATT network. . Its a 1161.38 MB file. Will update on which version does it get updated to shortly.
Update 1: 2.20PM CT: LOL. Installation failed. Try again in 21 hours. Sigh!

SeraldoBabalu said:
you sure it's lollipop? i know my note 4 received two updates in the past month.
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AT&T started rolling out 5.0.1 this morning to Note 4.

Stupid me
I checked for an update last night and now have to wait 9hrs before being able to check again. Oh well. At work anyways.

sherpa said:
AT&T started rolling out 5.0.1 this morning to Note 4.
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nice. hopefully not much longer for the canadian releases.

SeraldoBabalu said:
nice. hopefully not much longer for the canadian releases.
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Just sent a tweet to Rogers telling them AT&T rolled it out now and asking how long it will take for us to get it. I'm not holding out much hope for a reply.

spexwood said:
Stupid me
I checked for an update last night and now have to wait 9hrs before being able to check again. Oh well. At work anyways.
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You can manually change your date/time to sometime tomorrow and get the update today.

TheIgster said:
Just sent a tweet to Rogers telling them AT&T rolled it out now and asking how long it will take for us to get it. I'm not holding out much hope for a reply.
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They will just point you here.
HTML:
http://communityforums.rogers.com/html/assets/OSUpgrade.html
And tell you it's TBD. My old co-worker who now works at Rogers looked into it and apparently Samsung isn't releasing that information. As he said it's policy it classify devices that don't get support as TBD as to not piss off customers. Aka it's a coin toss if they are going to release it.
AT&T isn't the same as our devices. The closest we can get is T-Mobile. If and when TMO gets the update we won't be far behind. At least we shouldn't.

Yeah, I know of that link and they have pointed me there before. I've had a dialog going with them actually. I would like to rattle their cages "in public" as much as possible and Twitter is a good way to do that. I really was surprised to just get the Note 4 about 2 weeks ago, thinking it was the current flagship phone and then find out they have no idea when they are going to release Lollipop on it. Just bizarre.
A coin toss? How can a phone that hasn't been out for even 5 months yet not get Lollipop?

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Yeah, I know of that link and they have pointed me there before. I've had a dialog going with them actually. I would like to rattle their cages "in public" as much as possible and Twitter is a good way to do that. I really was surprised to just get the Note 4 about 2 weeks ago, thinking it was the current flagship phone and then find out they have no idea when they are going to release Lollipop on it. Just bizarre.
A coin toss? How can a phone that hasn't been out for even 5 months yet not get Lollipop?
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What are these phone updates of which you speak? Yes, I'm on Verizon.

cyprian64 said:
What are these phone updates of which you speak? Yes, I'm on Verizon.
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lol...yeah, I guess it's not just those of us in Canada. Really missing my Nexus 5 right now with updates right away straight from Google.

TheIgster said:
A coin toss? How can a phone that hasn't been out for even 5 months yet not get Lollipop?
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I was referring to the 5.0.1 update. It's very possible they will just lazily skip it and go for 5.1
If thats the case we most likely won't see a LP update this year. Remember Samsung had the oportunity to start LP in June and it has taken them 9 months just to get to this point. Considering no Canadian Carriers have been informed of the update even arriving, meaning they have not tested them and that in turn could create another month or two of testing. It's also been disclosed that Samsung has no plans on working on 5.1 at the moment. Let's assume that they wait to give us 5.1 instead of pushing 5.0.1 out. Since they have not even started 5.1 we can assume they might start in two months (Highly doubt it would be that quick). Then if we take the first time frame we add another 9 months plus the fact they wait a month after they build (check the build logs) we are at a total time frame of 12 months out for a single update. Skipping 5.0.1 would mean a total of 21 months of development time before the first actual LP update.
Of course remember this is all assumptions and theory based on what we have seen so far and I could be totally off. At least I hope I am.

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Of course remember this is all assumptions and theory based on what we have seen so far and I could be totally off. At least I hope I am.
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Sure hope you're wrong. LOL. I would be pretty pissed off if they don't send out a Lollipop update this year.

SeraldoBabalu said:
you sure it's lollipop? i know my note 4 received two updates in the past month.
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Yep, it sure was
Showing as Android version 5.0.1

TheIgster said:
Yeah, I know of that link and they have pointed me there before. I've had a dialog going with them actually. I would like to rattle their cages "in public" as much as possible and Twitter is a good way to do that. I really was surprised to just get the Note 4 about 2 weeks ago, thinking it was the current flagship phone and then find out they have no idea when they are going to release Lollipop on it. Just bizarre.
A coin toss? How can a phone that hasn't been out for even 5 months yet not get Lollipop?
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You'd think that right
How can one of the newest flagships not be on a higher priority?
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Are more bloatwares included in this update?

sherpa said:
You can manually change your date/time to sometime tomorrow and get the update today.
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Oh I know. It's OK though. I was at work with no wifi anyways (and I dont work a desk job either). I have the update downloading now though.

LTE-X said:
Are more bloatwares included in this update?
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Just the usual AT&T crap... Google Service needs to be updated after Lollipop installs, GS took multiple attempts to finally install, otherwise you keep getting a notice that the update is required.. Not sure if was just me but I had to reboot a few times to finally get the Install option to pop up..
So far I'm liking Lollipop, Visually much more appealing..

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Just the usual AT&T crap... Google Service needs to be updated after Lollipop installs, GS took multiple attempts to finally install, otherwise you keep getting a notice that the update is required.. Not sure if was just me but I had to reboot a few times to finally get the Install option to pop up..
So far I'm liking Lollipop, Visually much more appealing..
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Just updated to lollipop and I am experiencing memory leak. I performed a factory reset and is doing much better now.

5.1.1 soon

http://m.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-t-mobile-getting-android-511-update

Supposedly locks the boot loader....

Second thread. ..

Just in case this thread doesn't get locked here is a copy and past of my post from the other thread. Important not to freak out about bootloaders unless months go by without the app.
Honestly I'm caring less and less about roms but I like the option. Here is some possible good news from a trustworthy guy
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Korean variants seem to be getting an app that unlocks the bootloader, I bet we start seeing that for other variants as well (except verizon/att).
This is a good thing, not a bad thing people!
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It seems like the person got a test release by accident. The kernel build date is yesterday. No one else over on the edge forums has received it either. Dont seem to be false as the person even posted a vid of it. Dude just seems lucky lol.
Nice to know work is being done.

Well the ota update was dated 4/27 and the phone was released on 4/28

expertzero1 said:
Well the ota update was dated 4/27 and the phone was released on 4/28
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What? The phone was released a few weeks ago.

NJGSII said:
It seems like the person got a test release by accident. The kernel build date is yesterday. No one else over on the edge forums has received it either. Dont seem to be false as the person even posted a vid of it. Dude just seems lucky lol.
Nice to know work is being done.
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Cause no one ever faked a build.prop before

mrapp said:
Cause no one ever faked a build.prop before
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The person did post a dump of the OTA so it will be easy to tell if this is real or not.

ThePagel said:
Just in case this thread doesn't get locked here is a copy and past of my post from the other thread. Important not to freak out about bootloaders unless months go by without the app.
Honestly I'm caring less and less about roms but I like the option. Here is some possible good news from a trustworthy guy
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But im sure we can grab the apk

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But im sure we can grab the apk
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Might work but the bootloaders are different for every variant and god knows what kind of black magic is in that apk.

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Might work but the bootloaders are different for every variant and god knows what kind of black magic is in that apk.
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True

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Cause no one ever faked a build.prop before
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Some other users got the dump he posted to boot on their devices so it appears to be legit.
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Please search before posting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...android-5-1-1-ota-rolled-t-mobile-s6-t3096311

AT&T Galaxy S6 Marshmallow OTA In Next Few Days Confirmed

The support page for the Galaxy S6 has been updated to reflect that it’s going to receive the Marshmallow update on AT&T in the near future. The support page shows that version number G920AUCU3CPC2 will land on the handset, bumping it up to Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow.
Now that it has been confirmed that the update is going to start rolling out soon it’s not going to take long for the OTA to hit the airwaves

Nice.. I hope the edge is updated at the same time
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Well I see that the OTA can be manually downloaded and installed on the S6, hopefully the file for the S6 Edge is uploaded soon.

i gotta wait fot the odin ?

What's funny is that the build that is available for the s6 is nearly 2 months old so clearly AT&T has just been sitting on it. It has the March security update, not even the April. If this is indeed the final build and what we will see on the S6 Edge I'm very disappointed in both AT&T and Samsung. The 2016 Nexus can't come out fast enough for me.

I know that back in the day we were able to flash 920 Images onto the 925 but would lose the edge features. which . . . havbe been pretty ****ty TBH

+1

So apparently in the regular s6 thread going on they found there are much newer versions of 6.0.1 available right now, the latest being PD6 vs the PC2 reference by samsung that's nearly 2 months old. I guess Samsung jumped the gun and posted the wrong build so we have literally no idea when the update is actually coming right now.

I have absolutely had it with AT&T, their utterly STUPID reps, and their mind-numbingly slow software updates. If anyone else is in the same boat, I ask you to call them whenever you have free time and literally bug the living **** out of them. This is the only way we'll get the update sooner and if nothing else, it's payback. Here's some arguments I've used:
Other carriers have had it for weeks
Two months (today) since the last update
Marshmallow came out 7 ****ING MONTHS AGO and they have a whopping 4-5 phones updated to it (s7, g5, g4, g3, and v10 pretty sure)
Android N is already late in the beta stages
Also, ask for a manager or supervisor. They're more likely to escalate this issue to the higher-ups.
At this point, I honestly think it's just a way of them forcing us into buying the s7. From a business perspective, it makes perfect sense. They do it every year, they don't give us any information on the development of the software, and if no one makes a big deal over it, what's in it for them? Absolutely ****ing nothing.
Together maybe we can move them along.... slightly.
#marshmallow2018

troybrostrom said:
I have absolutely had it with AT&T, their utterly STUPID reps, and their mind-numbingly slow software updates. If anyone else is in the same boat, I ask you to call them whenever you have free time and literally bug the living **** out of them. This is the only way we'll get the update sooner and if nothing else, it's payback. Here's some arguments I've used:
Other carriers have had it for weeks
Two months (today) since the last update
Marshmallow came out 7 ****ING MONTHS AGO and they have a whopping 4-5 phones updated to it (s7, g5, g4, g3, and v10 pretty sure)
Android N is already late in the beta stages
Also, ask for a manager or supervisor. They're more likely to escalate this issue to the higher-ups.
At this point, I honestly think it's just a way of them forcing us into buying the s7. From a business perspective, it makes perfect sense. They do it every year, they don't give us any information on the development of the software, and if no one makes a big deal over it, what's in it for them? Absolutely ****ing nothing.
Together maybe we can move them along.... slightly.
#marshmallow2018
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I really wouldn't waste your time/effort on this. AT&T is already aware, and they do not care.
Do you really want to get their attention? Stop buying their branded phones (a lesson I keep having to tell myself since purchasing this AT&T GS6 Edge..). This is a HUGE revenue stream for them - both from the sale of the actual phones at jacked up prices, as well as the kickbacks received from 3rd party bloatware contracts. Get an unbranded unlocked phone and make AT&T your dump pipe. They hate being that.
Suffice to say, I plan on getting either the HTC 10 or one of the new Nexus phones this year. Update and bloatware problems solved.
EDIT: MAJOR props to jetta311xx! He found a new .bin for MM for our GS6 Edges. See below:
https://xdmd.sl.attcompute.com/agents/48652/1488/SS-G925AUCU3BOJ9-to-U3CPD6-UP
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brianbrain said:
I really wouldn't waste your time/effort on this. AT&T is already aware, and they do not care.
Do you really want to get their attention? Stop buying their branded phones (a lesson I keep having to tell myself since purchasing this AT&T GS6 Edge..). This is a HUGE revenue stream for them - both from the sale of the actual phones at jacked up prices, as well as the kickbacks received from 3rd party bloatware contracts. Get an unbranded unlocked phone and make AT&T your dump pipe. They hate being that.
Suffice to say, I plan on getting either the HTC 10 or one of the new Nexus phones this year. Update and bloatware problems solved.
EDIT: MAJOR props to jetta311xx! He found a new .bin for MM for our GS6 Edges. See below:
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Good point. In regards to that link, it's asking me for credentials. Is this this a download for the Odin file so I could flash it to my phone?
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troybrostrom said:
Good point. In regards to that link, it's asking me for credentials. Is this this a download for the Odin file so I could flash it to my phone?
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Sorry about that - the download link is fixed now.
Rahilm has posted great instructions HERE. These are for the regular GS6 obviously, but the same flashing steps would apply for the Edge, just make sure you're using the right image first :good:

brianbrain said:
I really wouldn't waste your time/effort on this. AT&T is already aware, and they do not care.
Do you really want to get their attention? Stop buying their branded phones (a lesson I keep having to tell myself since purchasing this AT&T GS6 Edge..). This is a HUGE revenue stream for them - both from the sale of the actual phones at jacked up prices, as well as the kickbacks received from 3rd party bloatware contracts. Get an unbranded unlocked phone and make AT&T your dump pipe. They hate being that.
Suffice to say, I plan on getting either the HTC 10 or one of the new Nexus phones this year. Update and bloatware problems solved.
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I've tried and tried different commands, but I keep getting " cannot read 'sideload' ". Am I doing something wrong?

troybrostrom said:
I've tried and tried different commands, but I keep getting " cannot read 'sideload' ". Am I doing something wrong?
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Make sure you have a working ADB installation. Try this one
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troybrostrom said:
I've tried and tried different commands, but I keep getting " cannot read 'sideload' ". Am I doing something wrong?
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Troy - I was looking around, and you may want to try rebooting your workstation if you're sure you're running the most recent version of adb. This should resolve the cannot read issue.

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Make sure you have a working ADB installation. Try this one
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Troy - I was looking around, and you may want to try rebooting your workstation if you're sure you're running the most recent version of adb. This should resolve the cannot read issue.
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I am in the same boat, nothing I do will allow it to read the file. I tried on 2 PC's renaming it multiple times, even tried to make it into a zip file nothing is working.

justda said:
I am in the same boat, nothing I do will allow it to read the file. I tried on 2 PC's renaming it multiple times, even tried to make it into a zip file nothing is working.
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I've tried restarting, reinstalling, re-anything lol. Also tried using .bin and .zip with no luck. Is there a video tutorial anywhere? Good luck to you, and let me know if you figure anything out!

I wish I had better news for you guys. It just seems that ADB can be a little finicky - it's not the update file. I ran into the same issue and once ADB decides to start doing this, it doesn't even bother reading the file.
These are the steps I took and I eventually got it to work:
Make sure that the update file is in the same directory as ADB
Verify that you are running the latest version of ADB
Rename the update to a short filename like "ota" and add the .zip extension
Verify in cmd that the file renamed with only a .zip extension and not something else (eg: not ota.zip.bin or ota.zip.zip)
Restart your computer
Before plugging phone in, run "adb devices" and verify daemon is started with no devices listed
Plug phone in and enter adb sideload mode
Run adb devices again and verify the presence of your device
Run adb sideload update.zip
If doing things in this order doesn't work, all I can suggest at that point is to completely remove all ADB installations, reboot, and do a fresh install of the latest version of ADB. Some people have reported success with going the nuclear route and loading the latest SDK, but it's all very much YMMV.

Its here and working!!!
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The support page for the Galaxy S6 has been updated to reflect that it’s going to receive the Marshmallow update on AT&T in the near future. The support page shows that version number G920AUCU3CPC2 will land on the handset, bumping it up to Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow.
Now that it has been confirmed that the update is going to start rolling out soon it’s not going to take long for the OTA to hit the airwaves
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Hit me up if you need a walkthrough.

Omfg I hate and love you at the same time. I'm at work right now, but will DEFINITELY be trying this as soon as I get home.
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Just finished the update and everything worked properly. Thank you for posting information on this. Now, the true test . . . a month later . . will it still speed along like its doing right now?

[T-Mobile] May 2nd

Hey TMO, it is now May 2nd 2019. Us 6T owners are wondering if you have forgot about us? We are still running January security update. Maybe throw us a bone to keep us happy for a few more months.

jpeckinp said:
Hey TMO, it is now May 2nd 2019. Us 6T owners are wondering if you have forgot about us? We are still running January security update. Maybe throw us a bone to keep us happy for a few more months.
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Is there anything keeping you from moving on to the International builds or open beta builds?

Why would anyone want to use the t mobile ROM?

BIGWORM said:
Is there anything keeping you from moving on to the International builds or open beta builds?
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Why would anyone want to use the t mobile ROM?
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RCS for one. Launcher with Google feed built in without the need to root.
There are a few advantages to the T-Mobile ROM. Not a lot, but a few.

Scott said:
RCS for one. Launcher with Google feed built in without the need to root.
There are a few advantages to the T-Mobile ROM. Not a lot, but a few.
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Oh I see I never heard of RCS until you mentioned it. I only booted the stock ROM once before flashing international. I also do not think microg supports Google feeds never used a feed before. How do people admin android without root?

I used to root everything. I just don't have the time anymore plus I din't buy my phone out right and I don't feel like calling TMO to try and get out of the payoff restriction.

BIGWORM said:
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Is this the Vegas Big Worm?

jpeckinp said:
I used to root everything. I just don't have the time anymore plus I din't buy my phone out right and I don't feel like calling TMO to try and get out of the payoff restriction.
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I didn't buy phone outright within one hour of taking it home I was boot loader unlocked , sim unlocked and rooted. No need to call t mobile for anything. I only booted the stock operating system once. Which was only because it was required step in the process. They asked me for help in setting up my phone. I sure if you can remove Google play services and seemed to think the phone wouldn't work without Google play services.

I get the desire for RCS,but it's barely used still... I could see it mattering in the future, but as of right now, meh... I got mine unlocked by sweet talking a rep, but MSM tool is great too! As much as I love the Google feed, I simply have a shortcut for it on my home screen so I can quickly go to it if needed... Honestly, the international variant works so much better for me! Sadly, TMO really restricts software updates for so many Android manufacturers, even aside from OnePlus. By the time TMO approve a software update, new patches and updates have already released on the mainstream side.

Wow...figured someone would have mentioned it by now...but anyway. Nova Launcher has a Google Feed plugin where you can just swipe right and you have the Discover feed. No root required.
As for RCS...not that big of a deal for me. I'm using International on my TMO 6T because I got tired of the SLOWWW updates.

I'm confident the T-mobile techs have noticed your demands here on XDA. They are surely working on your requests.
Stand by.

room511 said:
I'm confident the T-mobile techs have noticed your demands here on XDA. They are surely working on your requests.
Stand by.
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Hahaha
DrRyder said:
Wow...figured someone would have mentioned it by now...but anyway. Nova Launcher has a Google Feed plugin where you can just swipe right and you have the Discover feed. No root required.
As for RCS...not that big of a deal for me. I'm using International on my TMO 6T because I got tired of the SLOWWW updates.
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Yeah, I know about the alternatives but they are just not the same as having a dedicated stock launcher with the feed built in. It just seems cleaner to me.
Right now though, I do admit I cant use RCS because no one I know has it. So I went to Beta 9 and am using CPL with the plug in.

I am waiting on my token so I can get off this slow update T-Mobile schedule. I finally got tired of waiting so I called them up and told them I need sim unlock they did it even without phone payoff.
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Pomacat said:
I am waiting on my token so I can get off this slow update T-Mobile schedule. I finally got tired of waiting so I called them up and told them I need sim unlock they did it even without phone payoff.
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What does sim unlock mean in terms of updates? I am not sure if my sim is locked or not no proper method of testing but omni or carbon ROMs update just fine without official sim unlock. I only used the stock ROM long enough to boot the thing to fastboot to flash the international ROM. I did this inside the t mobile store while they processed the return of my wife's iPhone ten pro or what ever it was. They didn't seem to mind. Odd they let me do it with out the phone being processed yet. Mine was rooted and boot loader unlocked before I got my receipt. Their system was down for processing returns so I was there about an hour.

mine420 said:
What does sim unlock mean in terms of updates? I am not sure if my sim is locked or not no proper method of testing but omni or carbon ROMs update just fine without official sim unlock. I only used the stock ROM long enough to boot the thing to fastboot to flash the international ROM. I did this inside the t mobile store while they processed the return of my wife's iPhone ten pro or what ever it was. They didn't seem to mind. Odd they let me do it with out the phone being processed yet. Mine was rooted and boot loader unlocked before I got my receipt. Their system was down for processing returns so I was there about an hour.
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I find that strange with a locked bootloader. I guess you had a PC with you for all that or did the store let you use theirs. Any how good for you.
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I find that strange with a locked bootloader. I guess you had a PC with you for all that or did the store let you use theirs. Any how good for you.
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Yeah I had a windows tablet wait time was about an hour or two since the computers were down. I did walk next store to jamba juice and got a smoothie.

mine420 said:
Yeah I had a windows tablet wait time was about an hour or two since the computers were down. I did walk next store to jamba juice and got a smoothie.
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Oh come on...
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Scott said:
Yeah, I know about the alternatives but they are just not the same as having a dedicated stock launcher with the feed built in. It just seems cleaner to me.
Right now though, I do admit I cant use RCS because no one I know has it. So I went to Beta 9 and am using CPL with the plug in.
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Yeah but I would think that the advantages of having newer/faster updates outweigh having to use another launcher or having RCS. Honestly, the OnePlus Launcher leaves a lot to be desired. I got rid of it almost immediately after I got the phone after I saw its huge lack of customization. Used Nova Launcher for years and love it. I won't use these betas though. I use my phone all day and just don't wanna run into annoying bugs lol. Hopefully we get a big new stable update soon.
RCS isnt something I really *NEED*. I can see when a message was delivered...but I'm sure we'll get RCS eventually.

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Yeah but I would think that the advantages of having newer/faster updates outweigh having to use another launcher or having RCS. Honestly, the OnePlus Launcher leaves a lot to be desired. I got rid of it almost immediately after I got the phone after I saw its huge lack of customization. Used Nova Launcher for years and love it. I won't use these betas though. I use my phone all day and just don't wanna run into annoying bugs lol. Hopefully we get a big new stable update soon.
RCS isnt something I really *NEED*. I can see when a message was delivered...but I'm sure we'll get RCS eventually.
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Yeah, I can understand where you are coming from. However I would prefer the T-Mobile software. Each person has there own prerogative. Mine is T-Mo.

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I am waiting on my token so I can get off this slow update T-Mobile schedule. I finally got tired of waiting so I called them up and told them I need sim unlock they did it even without phone payoff.
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