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Moving from Moto Droid to HTC Incredible

Someone is giving me a HTC Incredible as a gift. Looks like I'll be dropping the Droid. I hope to have better memory performance and smoother scrolling (touch interaction). Any opinions on the matter?
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I had a Droid, now I have an INC. Your assumptions are correct sir.

Have you tried overclocking and 2.2 on the Droid? I suppose since it's already done.. but the general kind of lack of fluidity was starting to erk me on the stock 2.1.. went ahead and rooted, put 2.2 on, overclocked to 1ghz (which to my touch, it seems to actually be cooler and lasting longer) and my god what a difference, it's like getting a new phone to be honest.

Yea, I am rooted on 2.2. It is like a new phone. If you have seen the touch screen test between iphone and several other phones you'll see the droid has a rough touch screen. I am also still having memory issues. But it is a lot better and faster
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Hello,
because i am trying to find out, from where can i put the 2.2 interface on droid?

haris_el said:
Hello,
because i am trying to find out, from where can i put the 2.2 interface on droid?
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First off you have to be rooted just google it. theres a nice youtube video but i cant post links so then after you are rooted download an app called Rom Manger its free after that you can download different roms but right now Bugless beast has the most stable up to date froyo so download his rom and its will auto flash it for you then your done

ok thanks, i'll try that...
I'm already rooted.

Difference between CM / BB / Saphire

Please help...
I am about to take the plunge into rooting my Droid. I was hoping someone could offer up some advice.
I really just want a rooted stock 2.2. I dont really want to overclock past 800 Mhz. Of the most popular ROMs, which one will get me closest to what I want. I want one that doesnt have too much overhead...really just the stock 2.2 w/ wifi tether.
Also, of the most popular ROMs, what is the main differences between them. I am not referring to the aesthetics...I am more referring to the underlying code (source code???). I mean were these ROMs built from one source code and severely altered or just altered enough to modify the UI and add a couple features here and there.
Thanks.

To binging, both cm and sapphire are from the frf91 build. Both have wifi tether but sapphire which out of all three seems to be the most stable. Its more customizable than all three, which cm and sapphire you can use adw launcher or stock launcher, I don't like adw my self, it's laggy. Bb though comes from frf84b build which is older and is not from source build, its from a leak or so I read in a forum. Don't take that wrong, before I had switched to sapphire bb had been my favorite, its pretty stable just takes a little more work to customize or theme. Which you said isn't a big deal to but just a little info. All have developer apps that come with the rom. To upgrade or tweak the rom. Just a little note though, for wifi tether, you might have to install a custom kernel for it to work. Some roms state its needed but not all. Just flash and try I guess and if it doesn't work try different kernel. As far as closest to stock you might want rom check bb frf84b virgin froyo rom. Not too sure of the spacifics but may be rooted with tether. The other main bb rom would be bb v0.4. Sapphire is at version 0.8.4 for froyo which I might add again is very nice. The other thing to consider would be installing a stock froyo theme after flashing the rom. I know 928droidblackglass has one whick works with most roms. As far as cm I only had flashed for a couple minutes and didn't like it. It runs display mainly off adw launcher, was very laggy but customizine was a plus. As far as wifi and kernel, if the tether doesn't work. Most devs have an 800 MHz lv kernel whick should work. Also most roms are already overclocked to 800 MHz just the wifi maybe little issue. Also with kernel I would always recommended make sure it is compatible with the rom, I had tried a lot on bb but only a few worked. Sapphire is a little more spacific to there kernels but the ones that do work, I've had no issues what so ever with. Also I recommend a lowvoltage kernel for battery life, it helps alot. If your looking for more stock roms it may take a little more searching, there out there but not as popular I believe. Try looking in alldroid.org, droidforums, Droid life and there are others but the ones I mentioned are a little more moto Droid active. Other than that that most I can tell without writing a book but hope it helps
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Thank u so much for the very robust reply...if u had to choose between cm and saphire...which one would u go with...
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Well I tried both and found I liked sapphire more as well as being more stable. Just follow the instructions closely and install the Google apps as well as market hack app made for rom. Have had no issues and overclocked to 1.2ghz which I was never able to do with bb. Cm lasted about 5 minutes on my phone and switched again. Your welcome, any time.
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There are also more people who are much more experience in this, they've tried more roms and might have a better opinion as well as more info. Alldroid and droidforums are much more active for Droid rom support and etc. You might get quicker responces. Xda doesn't have as much support for Droid. Just a little extra for ya.
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CM has more tweaks, bb is moRe stable, and faster. Another stable, pretty rom is jrummys. Lots of customizations. These all come with a very conservative 800mhz base kernel that is plenty fast and has great battery life. Rom manager pwnz for the newb flasher.
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Simple Rom is by far the best on my phone at 800mhz it's blazingly fast ... That being said, as soon as CM6 is ready for full release, I'm sure that will be the best out there. They're taking their time and getting everything perfect. The release candidate is not quite ready for prime time... but throw Simple Rom on... you'll be very happy.
I know it isn't one of the choices but it's worth adding in.
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thanks alot guys...really appreciate it...
is there a difference in LINPACK scores between ROM's or does it really only depend on the source code???
I might give Simple ROM a try...for right now I have Sapphire 0.7.0 and it seems extremely stable and pretty fast.
Thanks...

cnp112 said:
thanks alot guys...really appreciate it...
is there a difference in LINPACK scores between ROM's or does it really only depend on the source code???
I might give Simple ROM a try...for right now I have Sapphire 0.7.0 and it seems extremely stable and pretty fast.
Thanks...
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Sapphire 1.0 is even better.

Yeah, I flashed 1.0 when it came out previously on 0.8.4. 1.0 is great nice customization and overclocking is built into rom in the gem settings. I'd recommend tryinging after reading the only difference so far seen between the frg22 build and frg01b build is some language files pretty much the best you'll get right now is the frg01b considering that's the base for Droid 2.2 upgrade.
Sent from Droid using, Sapphire v1.0.0/ 928Droid Black Glass 2.2 Theme/ Sholes 1.0 Ghz 7 Slot Kernel.

You only need a 800 MHz kernel to tether.
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(Q) Fast & Stable, with overclock

I know threads like this happen all the time, but I'm about to head over to a friends house because he needs help with the original droid. I could Really use some help because I don't know your phones nearly as well and I don't have enough time.
He currently has cm6. He states it just seems a bit sluggish. The app drawer stutters and things seen slow to load.
I put cm6 on his phone so I feel responsible. What is considered a really fast rom that is stable? I looked in the development section first page and was surprised to not see any overclock kernel's. Is there an oc that is considered the best?
Thank you all. I plan to get my buddy to join xda today as well so he can learn his phone himself, but like I said,i feel partially responsible and want to fix his phone. Due to my time crunch, I'm relying on you guys.
Best rom? Fast and stable. Link?
Best kernel to oc/uv? Link?
THANK YOU!!!

I had one person suggest liquid frozen yogurt... anyone got anything better or a comparison? Lots of view, no posts....

I just flashed simple Rom and its working great only overclocked to 600 but it has no lag whatsoever. And it looks great!
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Got 2.2.1 with Droid X theme, as fast as any Android that I've used...for most things.

This may sound dumb to you guys.

Thinking about buying a new og droid from amazon. Im downgrading from my Bionic as its bootloader locked and can't stand not having soap. I've had the DROID incredible and battery was horrible no matter what I did, had the fascinate, charge, and now am looking to stick to my android roots until my upgrade in november. So should I do it?

Honestly, I was thinking about doing it myself a while back. Don't know about the new ones but the OG Droid as I remember was very responsive to overclocking and ran great. I loved mine. Thing felt like a tank. Only thing to consider is CM will be dropping support for the OG Droid with CM9. Droids are dirt cheap and if you're good with fixing gadgets, you can get one with a broken digitizer for next to nothing.

I just recently fullfilled my 2 yr contract and was looking at new phones, but decided to try rooting and using a custom ROM on my OG Droid to get back some speed and functionality. I am no longer planning to fork over $ for a new phone

They're cheap, so the risk is minimal, but imho it is a painful experience running anything higher than Froyo/CM6 on the OG Droid. I know people swear by CM7 (and various scripts like V6, etc), but I have never gotten CM7 or any other GB ROM running smoothly for me.
The problem isn't the speed (I have mine OCed to 1.2ghz), its the memory. 256mb just isn't enough anymore.

so cm6 is the way to go? I have no problem with that. Whats the better setup with cm6 as far as kernel matching with cm6? Would like to hear some setups from anyone using the old school og droid.

Currntly running PE6. 5 on my og droid with the stock kernel which is 1.05Ghz lv. Have used the V6 scripts in past with so so results, am currently using Juwe's Ram Manager with pretty successful results.
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Try going even farther back. Android 2.1 XD. I still have the old files sitting on my hard drive.

thanks! keep them coming

Looks like project elite 6.5 for me, unless they have something newer out. Anything else I need to know about project elite? Whats the verdict on it? Its hard to find info on the og droid roms, so much just scattered around.

It's an asop rom built by actngrezy, he has stated is working on a version 7 but nothing on it recently or date. Alot of info on PE roms at Droid Forums.
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Here is a link to my dropbox if you want to try this rom.
http://db.tt/FqDCbRqp
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are you guys kidding me? this device is SO SLOW it's completely unusable. No matter how you tweak it, 256MB is just not enough. The day you go to a 512mb device, you will NEVER be able to return.... seriously

wow and who are and how have you helped the xda community. Try using a device with more than 512mb. I have. If I wanted your dumbass opinion on the d1 specs I would have asked for them. Clearly you have zero reading skills. Go troll somewhere else.

I found a brand new d1 for 100. Should be here today, looking forward to stepping back in time!

Ever think not everyone can afford a 299.00 phone. I love my d1, 256 and all.
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well that's exactly it. I have come to the conclussion that I don't need an expensive phone anymore and actually my favorite phone was the htc magic running amon ra rom Three years ago. I have five main uses for android in my little world. phone, facebook, xda, pandora and email. Anything past that and the novelty dies off after a couple of days

Anyone have a working link for p.e. 4.2?
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Gingerbread roms I'd recommend is Simply Stunning, Liquid, Project Elite, CushZero (as I'm using right now) im getting really good memory. I have been along time Droid user and tried just about every single rom that has been developed for it and finally found one that I can stick too.
If you're going to use Gingerbread, I'd recommend to use v6 supercharger (option 3 or superminfree calculator settings)
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downgrade to a droid 4

the motorola milestone was my favourite phone. the retro sci fi looks and awesome keyboard really did it for me. I then decided to upgrade to a more powerful modern phone but because I am in the UK choices were limited. the htc z was not really a big enough leap forward so I tried the latest BB Bold with touch screen and physical keyboard. it lasted 2 weeks and I sold it. There were no other physical keyboard phones out in the UK that were modern specs so I decided to give up and buy a Samsung galaxy note, and then a note 2 which I currently use.
the trouble is I suck at typing on a screen, I NEED a physical keyboard back and have been searching for options. I have settled for two potential sliders, the droid 4 and the samsung relay s t699.
the droid 4 is cheaper for me to find at about £50 or £60 delivered to the UK from the states while the relay is at least twice the price. due to this and my previous love for the OG droid (even with that locked bootloader) I am looking into the droid 4 first.
do you think the downgrade from the note 2 to the droid 4 is gonna be a steep one? I cant look or hold one in person to know because we cant buy them here. I dont mind a bit of a downgrade though because I really want a physical keyboard. I was hoping with a decent rom and other tweaks I could get the most out of a droid 4 and be happy. can some current droid users give me some honest opinions on how they are holding up towards the end of 2014?
many thanks

I can say that I'm really happy with the keyboard of the droid 4. The fact that it a full QWERTY keyboard makes typing quite easy on the phone. You can also install my Hacker keyboard for enabling the rest of the keys.
Performance wise there are still some, and I stress, SMALL issues here and there but nothing serious. I'm using Cyanogen Mod and it works way better than the stock ROM but there are still some small bugs. For example GPS is not working for me, but I haven't really investigated the issue so maybe is fixable, or I did something wrong.
The good thing is that the SafeStrap recovery used for droid is really nice and you can also keep the stock Rom.
So if you want you can choose to boot the stock ROM.
Overall I'm satisfied with the phone and I would recommend you to buy one.
If you have any questions I would be happy to help

many thanks for your reply
can I ask, how bad is the screen? consider I would be coming from a Note 2. A lot of reviews mention ghosting of text when dark text is displayed on light backgrounds. How bad is it? Do custom roms make any difference?

I don't have any issues with the screen, but to be honest I haven't given a close attention regarding what you said.
I'll have a look in the coming days and if I find something I'll post.

mo0n_sniper said:
I don't have any issues with the screen, but to be honest I haven't given a close attention regarding what you said.
I'll have a look in the coming days and if I find something I'll post.
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Hi mo0n_sniper,
I've just got a Droid 4, and I'd like to use CM11 too. Do you (or most people) use the official rom from the cyanogenmod site, or use one of the roms posted in the android development section on here?
Thanks

Hi moodroid,
I use the one from the Cyanogen Mod site.
You can follow this howto: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_maserati

i like the droid 4 a lot and the keyboard is insanely comfortable compared to droid 3. performance wise id say its a capable phone but if you wanna do higher end gaming on android then its gonna struggle. cm11 has been great to me and GPS works just fine and i dont have any problems with the screen.. honestly i dont ever want to go back to stock or previous versions of android because of how comfortable 4.4 is
you can get the latest builds from the official cyanogenmod site because thats where theyre pushing all the updates
one thing thats a big negative (at least for me) is that droid 4 cant use LTE outside of the US (or verizon) so youll only have 3g.
a secondary negative is battery life but you can have workarounds for that and both of these cons depend on how you intend to use the device

Thanks for your replies. My DROID 4 arrived today and we'll the screen might take some getting used to but I look forward to rooting and flashing a rom tonight!
Any reccomendations for custom ROMs?

Slimkat or latest official CM11 snapshot. I personally use Slimkat with Apex launcher for the low memory usage.
CM12 is close to DD-able, but it has a few bugs and lollipop doesn't bring our phone much over the 4.4.4 roms with ART enabled.

Well I finally got my phone rooted and custom ROM flashed so thanks a bunch fellas!
I rooted following this guy's video [Root] Droid 4 (XT894) Jellybean with SafeRoot as @mo0n_sniper 's link to the cyanogenmod site was bit too much for the brain at the moment, need to learn all the new lingo!
I managed to install [cm-11-20141207-NIGHTLY-maserati] and it seems to be working great! I installed it into the stock-rom slot as I read that it was ok as long as I had a recent version of safestrap. I do have a query though. I come from the Note 2 where there was no such thing as safestrap and having multiple slots for roms. I always overwrote the stock rom and never had an issue. Now on safestrap it appears as though the stock rom slot is not using all of the memory available on the device. I don't want to be able to install multiple roms at once, I would like to use the device to it's full potential, utilising all available memory. What is the best way to do this? Or am I already doing it? What do those partition sizes actually mean? If someone could be kind enough to drop some knowledge that would be awesome!
As I am in the UK I also used [cdma_to_gsm_patch_for_verizon_phones_v3.3_by_mentor] and that let me use my network just fine.
Oh and just incase any other newbies are interested, for GAPPS I used [pa_gapps-modular-pico-4.4.4-20141207-signed] and it works great, just the bare minimum google stuff.
P.S. @mo0n_sniper thank you for your hacker keyboard, I have that running. Can I ask, is there a way to do an exclamation mark without moving both my thumbs over to the left side of the keyboard to hold [shift] and [1]?
Thank you guys, it feels so good to be back on a solid keyboard!

Elanzer said:
Slimkat or latest official CM11 snapshot. I personally use Slimkat with Apex launcher for the low memory usage.
CM12 is close to DD-able, but it has a few bugs and lollipop doesn't bring our phone much over the 4.4.4 roms with ART enabled.
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May I ask what version of slimkat you are running? I had a look but had no idea what to go for. Also what is ART and how does one enable it? Thanks

rattymon said:
May I ask what version of slimkat you are running? I had a look but had no idea what to go for. Also what is ART and how does one enable it? Thanks
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https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=8820 from this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2491855
8.10 is the latest. ART is a new compiler for Android, basically enabling it makes programs load faster as everything is pre-compiled instead of compiled-at-run. It's enabled by default on Android 5.0, but you can turn it on in developer options in 4.4.

Rattymon if u change Safestrap to BootMenu Manager (and Patch it) you can use Cyan11 on unused partitions (like /webtop) and you save a lot of memory (on /sdcard)
Fervi

Do any of you have any problems with the screen?
I bough a D4 from ebay, but the screen on it is just awfull, even compared to my crapiest phones.
I have a very bad ghosting effect. Is there any way to make it better?
Oh and BTW, right now Im using CM12, working great.

BFG9000D said:
Do any of you have any problems with the screen?
I bough a D4 from ebay, but the screen on it is just awfull, even compared to my crapiest phones.
I have a very bad ghosting effect. Is there any way to make it better?
Oh and BTW, right now Im using CM12, working great.
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Nah, the screen is naturally crappy like that and there's no way to fix it. Almost all reviewers of the Droid 4 remarked on it's poor screen. I've ordered a Motorola Photon Q with modded sim slot to replace my Droid 4, since it seems like there isn't going to be any Droid 5 anytime soon..

Elanzer said:
Nah, the screen is naturally crappy like that and there's no way to fix it. Almost all reviewers of the Droid 4 remarked on it's poor screen. I've ordered a Motorola Photon Q with modded sim slot to replace my Droid 4, since it seems like there isn't going to be any Droid 5 anytime soon..
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When you have both phones, can you compare the screens and the bulkiness of each one and tell me if the upgrade is worth it?
I have a kinda broken milestone 1 and its build quality is way better, and also it doesnt feel that heavy on my pocket.

BFG9000D said:
When you have both phones, can you compare the screens and the bulkiness of each one and tell me if the upgrade is worth it?
I have a kinda broken milestone 1 and its build quality is way better, and also it doesnt feel that heavy on my pocket.
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Sure. It's going to be a month or so before I get the Photon Q though, as it's getting mailed from the seller in USA to czech republic for modding then to canada to me. Their form factors are almost the same, the things that will make the upgrade worth it are reduced bezel on the display and the CPU/GPU in the Photon Q is nearly twice as fast. A sim modded photon Q is also definitely more "region free" than a Droid 4 in the sense that you can use it on any american provider as well. When I go down to the US I can't actually use my Droid 4 at all because the roaming is not linked to Verizon, so I get forced to bring another device with me.
They will both be bricks with a case on them, but that's the cost of having a nice keyboard.

Just got my Photon Q modded by CornholioGSM for the SIM slot. He did an excellent job and the slot actually looks like it came from the factory.
For the most part I agree with this guy who's also done a comparison between the Droid 4 and Photon Q: http://forum.xda-developers.com/photon-q-4g-lte/general/photon-q-vs-droid-4-mini-review-t2991956
Build quality is far better on the Photon Q. Buttons feel better and general feel in hand is better. The slider kind of springs all the way open after you've opened it half way which feels nicer than the Droid 4 that requires you to push it all the way. The screen is -a lot- better and doesn't have that noticeable ghosting that the Droid 4 has. The software buttons take up some of the screen space vs hardware on the Droid 4, but in full-screened applications (ie: movie players) the buttons are hidden so you can utilize the 0.3in larger screen, although resolution of the 2 phones is the same 960x540. I also noticed that the Photon Q has pocket detection, I've never seen my Droid 4 instantly turn on the moment I pulled it out of my pocket, but this may be a CarbonROM function on my Photon Q.
Performance difference is night and day. Boot time is roughly 1/3 of the Droid 4. Everything opens quite fast and multitasking is easy. Skype in particular took anywhere from 2-3 seconds to load the interface, while on Photon Q it's less than a second. Camera opens instantly on Photon Q instead of waiting 2-3 seconds like Droid 4. For some reason, the camera has always been very slow for me on the Droid 4 regardless of what ROM I'm using. Quality of pictures is better also, seems easier to get a focused picture.
Ran a few benchmarks..
Droid 4 (Lucize JBX kernel, Slimkat 4.4.4 ART):
Antutu (5.6.1)
Stock (1.2GHz CPU, 307MHz GPU): 14776
Overclocked (1.4GHz CPU, 384MHz GPU: 18296
Geekbench
Stock: 342 single / 636 multi
Overclocked: 394 single / 737 multi
Photon Q 4G (arrrghhh kernel, CarbonROM 4.4.4 ART)
Antutu (5.6.1)
Stock (1.5GHz CPU, 400MHz GPU): 19122
Overclocked (2.0GHz CPU, 480MHz GPU): 21130
Geekbench
Stock: 495 single / 792 multi
Overclocked: 521 single / 832 multi
On Antutu, Photon Q has roughly 50% faster CPU scores, and 100% faster GPU scores. For whatever reason, Photon Q does not gain much from overclocking, while Droid 4 gets a good boost. The storage score is also 50% less than the Droid 4, but since Photon Q has only 8gb internal storage you will probably put most things on SD.. this would be why the Antutu scores are so close, individual scores show the Photon Q is much faster.
It's a shame Motorola never properly marketed either phone to a global audience. Droid 4 being stuck on Verizon in US, and Photon Q being stuck on Sprint (unless modded). Photon Q has almost no value, mine was $70 brand new but I have seen them for $20... which is quite funny because it has the same chipset as the US Galaxy S3 that still sells for about $150 on ebay for some reason.

after struggling to find a fully functional droid 4 from ebay again i considered a photon Q only to learn that its impossible to use it on verizon so droid 4 is the only option for me because im not giving up the unlimited data
everything looks nice except the lack of hardware keys on the screen so pretty jealous.
im assuming the photon q only has 3g outside of sprint like the droid 4 outside of verizon?

Puppymang said:
after struggling to find a fully functional droid 4 from ebay again i considered a photon Q only to learn that its impossible to use it on verizon so droid 4 is the only option for me because im not giving up the unlimited data
everything looks nice except the lack of hardware keys on the screen so pretty jealous.
im assuming the photon q only has 3g outside of sprint like the droid 4 outside of verizon?
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Unfortunately, the Photon Q has a Sprint sim hard-soldered to the board, it doesn't even have a sim slot out of the box, so you can't use the phone at all in any other country unless it's roaming from Sprint.
There is a modification you can do to the phone (or have someone else to do it, CornholioGSM did mine for a 70 euro donation) that consists of removing the sprint-sim and installing a sim slot on the board. The Photon Q with sim mod is completely unlocked and the photon Q also has an unlockable bootloader unlike the Droid 4. It should work on Verizon as it supports all the same CDMA/GSM bands as the Droid 4, however you won't get LTE because the photon Q uses an incompatible band.