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In case anyone was worried, YES we are getting Ice Cream Sandwich

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Sweet!
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yes the Bionic is indeed. the Galaxy Nexus is going to launch with ICS, then the Droid RAZR will have an ICS update in Jan. followed by the Bionic & Thunderbolt(no ETA yet though).

This is awesome news! Yesterday I find out Asus is planning an ICS update for my tablet, today Motorola announces an ICS update for my phone. I think I made smart purchasing decisions or something?

astrogiblet said:
This is awesome news! Yesterday I find out Asus is planning an ICS update for my tablet, today Motorola announces an ICS update for my phone. I think I made smart purchasing decisions or something?
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this is a sign you need to go out and get ice cream today.

astrogiblet said:
This is awesome news! Yesterday I find out Asus is planning an ICS update for my tablet, today Motorola announces an ICS update for my phone. I think I made smart purchasing decisions or something?
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Nah, you're just lucky
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I was actually wondering about this last night.. great news! I kind of assumed they would, but I'm more curious about the timing.
voxigenboy said:
yes the Bionic is indeed. the Galaxy Nexus is going to launch with ICS, then the Droid RAZR will have an ICS update in Jan. followed by the Bionic & Thunderbolt(no ETA yet though).
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Is there any evidence that the Bionic is getting it after the RAZR? I know that kind of makes sense considering they very clearly stated that the RAZR is getting it and I'd imagine a lot of buyers are getting it under that assumption, but it would be kind of cool if the same or a close release date.

You all do realize that between the vendors and the providers, those projections rarely mean anything, right? It'll also be interesting to see how Verizon deals with an OS that will allow you to remove bloatware without even having root privileges.

voxigenboy said:
yes the Bionic is indeed. the Galaxy Nexus is going to launch with ICS, then the Droid RAZR will have an ICS update in Jan. followed by the Bionic & Thunderbolt(no ETA yet though).
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How do you know the tbolt is getting it?
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It really doesn't matter if Verizon approved ICS for the Bionic or not. By the time Razr receives the update the Devs will have everything need for a stable port to the Bionic. I don't think the Thunderbolt will get ICS since HTC is still working on it's successor "Vigor" will likely receive it first.

Cool thing about this is that we know it runs well on TI SoC's so performance should be awesome whether it comes from CM or from an official update. I for one hope for CM!
I can't remember the time frame it took CM to get from froyo to gingerbread.

I think if the bionic didn't get icecream sandwich, Motorola would have things to worry about, like a bunch of disgruntled customers who may never purchase another Motorola again. By the time we get it, Google may be announce Cheeseburger(joke name for next version )
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Ics?

Has anyone seen any news on weather or not we will be getting ics for our DROID 3? Not cm9 but the official. I poke around twitter and google but can't find anything new, its all outdated.
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Motorola does not list the Droid 3 on any of their roadmaps...it is like they just forgot about the device.
I would not hold my breath but at this point there is no official response in ether direction.

We are all waiting for Motorola to issue some updates... I think they are going to make the announcements all at the same time, of which phones will and won't make the upgrade.
D3 is in good shape though, it runs almost the same CPU and GPU as Galaxy Nexus, just has half the memory. Let's keep our fingers crossed!

prsterero said:
Has anyone seen any news on weather or not we will be getting ics for our DROID 3? Not cm9 but the official. I poke around twitter and google but can't find anything new, its all outdated.
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I remember seeing somewhere that motorola is redoing their software update page on their website, I know they are working on it as we speak. I would hope that it's soon, I remember google saying that the updates should be quicker with ICS but saying and doing are two different things.

prsterero said:
Has anyone seen any news on weather or not we will be getting ics for our DROID 3? Not cm9 but the official. I poke around twitter and google but can't find anything new, its all outdated.
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Even if Moto and Verizon don't officially give ICS to the D3, you can bet that shortly after they release it for either the Razr or Bionic that it will be ported in it's "blurred" setup to the D3.

mikedyk43 said:
Even if Moto and Verizon don't officially give ICS to the D3, you can bet that shortly after they release it for either the Razr or Bionic that it will be ported in it's "blurred" setup to the D3.
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Keep in mind that if they don't release it for the Droid 3, the "ported" version based from those won't get the new kernel that those devices get along with their ICS upgrade...

If they release just one of the phones Hash supports for ICS with a camera, that is all we really need anyway.

MrObvious said:
If they release just one of the phones Hash supports for ICS with a camera, that is all we really need anyway.
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Not if the app relies on the newer kernel that the upgrade will bring to the other devices...
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Motorola released their "staging plans" for ICS upgrades...
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
DROID 3
USA
Evaluation & Planning
Further details to follow.
They state that some products may not make it beyond the Evaluation stage....
Categorized in 1 Gig ram devices and 512 Meg Ram devices. Bionic, Razr and Droid4 are also listed as "Evaluation & Planning".

This is good news, but dumb because all those 4 phones should have been evaluated when being made for ics compatibility
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prsterero said:
Has anyone seen any news on weather or not we will be getting ics for our DROID 3? Not cm9 but the official. I poke around twitter and google but can't find anything new, its all outdated.
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http://bit.ly/MotoSoftUpdate
there is some info (but not confirmed)
same update page but custom url
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i hope D3 and bionic get Official ICS (mb200 in latam didnt get 2.1 so i would not give all my hopes again and then rant a "never more and/again Motorola" quote

Dri94 said:
This is good news, but dumb because all those 4 phones should have been evaluated when being made for ics compatibility
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I wonder if they had to build their new blur before making the actual ICS builds for their phones.
Still I'm happy that they have at least acknowledged that the D3 might get updated to ICS maybe someday possibly a remote chance.

Interesting...the Motorola Razr is in "Development" status but the Droid Razr is still only "Evaluation and Planning" stage....
Verizon must be a big part of the problem....as even the 3G Xoom's are "Evaluation and Planning" while the WiFi Xoom already has it (and non-us WiFi are in Development).

tcrews said:
Interesting...the Motorola Razr is in "Development" status but the Droid Razr is still only "Evaluation and Planning" stage....
Verizon must be a big part of the problem....as even the 3G Xoom's are "Evaluation and Planning" while the WiFi Xoom already has it (and non-us WiFi are in Development).
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I noticed the same thing... It looks like for the first time Canada might be getting something quicker than the US... (At least in the RAZR ICS upgrade department).
All I care about is that the RAZR upgrade code leaks so that way we can get the cameras working within CM9, then maybe I'll jump ship from stock.

danifunker said:
All I care about is that the RAZR upgrade code leaks so that way we can get the cameras working within CM9, then maybe I'll jump ship from stock.
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that still really doesn't help as Hashcode has pointed out the dependencies the ICS camera has on the ION driver inside the ICS kernel....which are not present in the Gingerbread kernel that will still be running on the Droid 3 with CM9.
These dependencies won't go away on a Razr ICS camera....as the kernel will be getting updated along with the OS when they push it out.

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Verizon must be a big part of the problem....as even the 3G Xoom's are "Evaluation and Planning" while the WiFi Xoom already has it (and non-us WiFi are in Development).
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I agree. All Verizon dual-core phones - even the Bionic, Razr series and D4 - are the same status. I think that Verizon's approval process and bloatware install requirements have become too unpredictable to allow for a definitive upgrade period.

It wouldn't surprise me if a working ics blur rom existed at moto and was stable. The hurdle has always been verizon. I can't understand the forced bloat concept considering most users don't use it and will root now to rid themselves of it.
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has motorola confirmed no ics for bionic?? attached email

This is a copy and paste of the email i received with identifying information removed. other then that it is un altered except for the part i underlined
We have not heard from you concerning your request for support in the 48 hours since we sent you a response. Consequently, we have changed the status of your question to SOLVED.
*Discussion Thread
* Via Email ()
03/11/2012 05:38 PM
Dear "",
Thanks for reaching out to Motorola. I’ve reviewed your e-mail and I’m ready to help.
We do apologize for the inconvenience. Regarding your concerns, Motorola's primary focus is the security of our end users and protection of their data, while also meeting carrier, partner and legal requirements. The Droid Bionic and a majority of Android consumer devices on the market today have a secured bootloader.
In reference specifically to eFuse, the technology is not loaded with the purpose of preventing a consumer device from functioning, but rather ensuring for the user that the device only runs on updated and tested versions of software. If a device attempts to boot with unapproved software, it will go into recovery mode, and can re-boot once approved software is re-installed. Checking for a valid software configuration is a common practice within the industry to protect the user against potential malicious software threats. Motorola has been a long time advocate of open platforms and provides a number of resources to developers to foster the ecosystem including tools and access to devices for developers via Motodev at http://developer.motorola.com.
For the Android 4.0, at this time, we do not have any information if the phone will be updated to Android 4.0.
With your data connectivity concerns, please provide us with the following information so that we can assist you better.
1. Serial number of your device. On the phone's home screen go to Settings > About phone > Status > IMEI number.
You may also follow the link below on how to locate the serial number of your device.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/utils/guided_assistant/g_id/446
2. Software version of the phone.
On the phone's home screen go to Settings > About phone > System version
3. Your Contact number.
We hope that you find this information useful and we look forward to assisting you in the future.
For information about Motorola products and services, please visit us at http://www.motorola.com/
Thank you for contacting Motorola e-mail support.
Best Regards,
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03/09/2012 11:57 AM
Why didn't you unlock the Bionic's Bootloader with the last update. You have promised to make motorola's bootloaders unlockable. I started my cell phone adventure with motorola. I have had other phones also, Nokia, HTC, LG. But I wanted to go back to my roots and go back to motorla. Now I see that was a mistake. I had the original droid for my first android phone. Then I went to the HTC Droid Eris, HTC Droid Incredible, Samsung Fascinate, and now your piece of crap Droid Bionic. I have never had a phone that was so flawed. Not to mention you released the Razr just a couple months after the Bionic. I am now screwed. I have a worthless phone that still drops data even after you put out an update that was supposed to fix that issue for the next 2 years. I am going to be forced to return to HTC for my cellular needs. And in the process of changing over I will have to now spend over $500 Because of your locked bootloader, I now cannot make the modifications needed to make the phone useable for my needs and also I cannot fix your mistakes in the programming to make the phone stable. Now for my last question / segustion. Since the RAZR has been released, I know you will not make putting android 4.0 on the Bionic a priority. When will you be releasing the android 4.0 update for the Bionic?? Also, when you do, if you do finally release android 4.0 for the Bionic I segust that you make the bootloader unlockable. This way I am no longer restricted and forced to use your flawed software. Google's Android OS is a Open Source Project. Who are you to close it and restrict its usage and capabilities. In doing so you have forced the public to use a piece of equipment that is flawed with no way or means of correcting the issues.
To be honest, I cannot believe that Google has not reamed your asses and filed law suits against the companies that lock their bootloaders and do not offer a way to unlock. Even if it voids the manufacture warranty the option should still be there. Android is Open Source and why do you have the right to restrict it?!
To sum this up.
1: I want an explanation on your bootloader and I want it unlocked. (Believe me I am not the only one)
2: When will Android 4.0 be released on the Bionic?
3: Statement: I am about to leave Motorola for good. I have had the worst experience ever with this phone and I am now on my third phone which is on its way just because you cannot fix your Data Drop issue. I require a reliable phone for work and this phone has been all but that.
Thank You
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I'm not really sure how "we do not have any information" qualifies as confirming anything.
This is the link for their ICS upgrade schedule:
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
If you read the descriptions for each stage, they state that the early stage does not guarantee an update. The comment in the response email was a carefully prepared legal statement to avoid hinting at anything.
I would be surprised if we don't see an ICS update, though it's always possible that it wont happen.

For the Android 4.0, we do not have any information if the phone will be upgraded at this time.
In that statement they used if instead of when. That says to me that they promised ics and advertised the phone as ics upgradeable and now don't know if they are going to do it or not. The key word in this is if. If and when are 2 totally different words. The original question was when and they comeback with ( no info if phone will be upgraded.) It raises questions.
Side note: they advertise a phone as ics upgradeable, but once you buy it you find out that its not even available to download. One must wait and hope and prey that their device is not forgotten about because in just 3 months time a newer phone has been released. I'm not new to smartphones or rooting or roms. I know I have to wait before I even buy the phone but the general public that just uses phones and has no idea what rooting is has no idea that they are going to have to wait for the upgrade and have to worry that they will even get the upgrade. Bad advertising and miss leading I say. (Rant Over)
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Im pretty sure they will release ICS for Bionic. I mean all the newer Motorola Devices (I.E RAZR, Droid 4, Xyboard) run essentially the same hardware in different form, the Omap 4430. Assuming those phones get 4.0 then so should Bionic :s

Ask them this: What percent of revenue does each new Android product represent?
Then imagine what it would be like to reduce their earnings by the lose of one of those products such as the Bionic.
It all about the money!

Motorola's customer service has often said things contrary to the truth. Since the site still says an update is on the way, I tend to believe the site.

All there website says is evaulation and planning.. That does not mean much. It could stay evaluation and planning for the next year. How long does it honestly take to evaluate and plan? No developing stage yet? Wow... Look at the developers that are building ROMs across the spectrum for various phones and brands and yet Motorola can't even get a grip just on there own phones... stepping off my soapbox.

Quoting directly from the link provided to the Motorola site: "As previously communicated, DROID RAZR, DROID RAZR MAXX, DROID 4, DROID BIONIC, DROID XYBOARD 8.2 and 10.1, and MOTOROLA XOOM WiFI + 3G/4G will be upgraded to ICS. Additional details on timing for these products will be shared at a later date."

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Since I purchased this phone SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE it was advertised as it would be getting a version of ics 4.0, they will have to refund my money so I can get a phone that does run ics. It was critical to my purchase decision.
Do I hear a class action coming if they don't?
Personally I think they will release an ics upgrade as they have said and continue to say. Probably 2nd quarter this year. Development of mass stability is VERY difficult.
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Well I don't know if you guys/gals saw, but there was a leaked screenshot from a Best buy computer that shows the Razr and the Maxx receiving its ICS on the 4th of April. This was also confirmed by several emails that went out from Verizon stating there was going to be a software upgrade soon. Its typical they update the new phone first, but maybe its a sign we will get our update soon.
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Ya I saw it. Still not the bionic. If we get it I say it will be Oct or Nov before the bionic gets it and that's if it gets it.
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I think we'll get it, but definitely not anytime soon.
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Glad I've been running ICS for a couple months
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flascrnwrtr said:
Glad I've been running ICS for a couple months
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How's that running? I've heard there's a lot of bug in CM9 on the Bionic. That's why I went to Eclipse instead.

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Glad I've been running ICS for a couple months
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It's not fully-functioning ICS, and you have no video camera, no hw accel, half the games probably don't work right, etc.
I bet the devs we have would be able to port the RAZRs ICS to Bionic faster than Moto could develop it....

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It's not fully-functioning ICS, and you have no video camera, no hw accel, half the games probably don't work right, etc.
I bet the devs we have would be able to port the RAZRs ICS to Bionic faster than Moto could develop it....
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For me, I don't play games on my phone and since I work in film/TV, I don't shoot video with my phone either. What I do have is everything else, rock solid data and stable wifi. I haven't gone to my unsafe side since mid-Feb. My point was, you can have a very usable version now and, with the release of the official and full RAZR version, we will have a complete version for our Bionics, whether moto releases one or not.
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The Bionic is definitely getting the ICS update, just don't know when. I spoke to my cousin when I switched to Verizon to get some info on some phones since he's a developer for Motorola. He was able to get me a Bionic and told me that it will definitely get ICS. He just doesn't have a date for it since right now he's testing ICS on the Razr Maxx.

The list of Verizon and Moto ICS updates has been reviewed and revised a couple times, Bionic making the cut each time. I see it definitely getting the update. As far as Razr and Bionic go theres not a significant difference in source, which helps the Bionic out a lot when it comes to ICS
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New leaked dates for ICS

So I just found a leaked screen shot of Verizon's upgrade schedule to ICS!
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/verizon-ic-update-schedule-leaked/
So the HTC Rezound should get the OTA next week on May 9th. The RAZR and RAZR MAXX will be getting the OTA in three weeks. But no mention of the Bionic... Oh yea, they decided to give us the .904 update while they finalized ICS for the newer phones. We just got shafted again.
Then again, its tough to know what is actually going on because they have to keep everything confidential. I doubt this would be case but if VZW and MOTO were having issues with ICS on the Bionic, I would have no problem giving them more time to make it right. But from what we've seen, it doesn't appear to be that innocent.

You do realize that we are a low priority because the phone isn't selling well, right? RAZR's the front-runner, making it a priority. We'll get ours by July, if we're lucky.
And yes, I am being a little pessimistic, but Motorola and Verizon need to step up their game already. Moto's making too many devices and Verizon's forcing bloat too much. That's what is slowing us down.

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I don't understand what is really taking that long. Development will continue on the latest and greatest but that doesn't mean we should get the shaft. I picked the bionic over the thunderbolt because I like the slightly thinner phone and longer screen even though it cost more.didn't think I would be buying a dead phone in terms of development. I should have just got the razr
I have Rooted 904 update Safestrap dual boot eclipse 2.2

My view is the Bionic is a phone they would prefer to forget. The Razrs are the hot phones so they get the priority. Maybe I woukd complain much more without ICS ROMs available.

It's interesting that on Moto's site the RAZR's are all listed as ICS upgradeable but the Bionic is not.??

ronaldheld said:
My view is the Bionic is a phone they would prefer to forget. The Razrs are the hot phones so they get the priority. Maybe I woukd complain much more without ICS ROMs available.
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There are ICS ROMs available for the Bionic. I've held off on flashing one because its my understanding that they are unstable and have missing features. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

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It's interesting that on Moto's site the RAZR's are all listed as ICS upgradeable but the Bionic is not.??
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Yes it is:
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...and-Services/Mobile-Phones/DROID-BIONIC-US-EN

"ANDROID 4.0 (ICS) UPGRADEABLE: WE ALL SCREAM!
Ice cream is cool. Ice Cream Sandwich is HOT. Needless to say, DROID RAZR is Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) upgradeable. You can find all the latest software upgrade news in our Motorola Support Forums. "
That is on the top of the bionics feature page.
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it would be nice if they would just let us have it.

pyroemaniac said:
"ANDROID 4.0 (ICS) UPGRADEABLE: WE ALL SCREAM!
Ice cream is cool. Ice Cream Sandwich is HOT. Needless to say, DROID RAZR is Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) upgradeable. You can find all the latest software upgrade news in our Motorola Support Forums. "
That is on the top of the bionics feature page.
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That's a pretty big oversight, mentioning the RAZR on the Bionic page like that... Now is that the mobile site only, or is it on the full site too?

That's the full site. It says RAZR. Read the spec's on all the phones and Bionic does not have 'ICS Upgradeable'. I think we're getting swept under the rug.

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That's the full site. It says RAZR. Read the spec's on all the phones and Bionic does not have 'ICS Upgradeable'. I think we're getting swept under the rug.
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****ing awesome
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If we get swept under the rug I will demand a new phone. Part of the reason I bought this phone is because it was going to be updated with ics. I believe them reniging (sp?) on their word is sufficient reason for a phone replacement on vzw.
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jmath679 said:
If we get swept under the rug I will demand a new phone. Part of the reason I bought this phone is because it was going to be updated with ics. I believe them reniging (sp?) on their word is sufficient reason for a phone replacement on vzw.
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Agreed

Went to Moto website and under specs for Bionic it says android 2.3 upgradeable to 4.0 so maybe u miss read :x
Edit: Heres Link http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...obile-Phones/ci.DROID-BIONIC-US-EN.alt#anchor

HorsexD said:
Went to Moto website and under specs for Bionic it says android 2.3 upgradeable to 4.0 so maybe u miss read :x
Edit: Heres Link http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...obile-Phones/ci.DROID-BIONIC-US-EN.alt#anchor
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Saw the same thing. Dunno where people are getting that we're not getting ICS from. If the thunderbolt and INC2 are getting it, that would be a travesty for the Bionic not to.
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look under the features section of the bionic, it says Droid razor. I'm think we'll be lucky to get ICS by late summer/ early fall.
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pyroemaniac said:
look under the features section of the bionic, it says Droid razor. I'm think we'll be lucky to get ICS by late summer/ early fall.
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if you click on the motorola support forums link where it says that it takes u to a page explaining which devices are getting ics and the bionic among others is on that list but yeah :/ it will prolly be a while. maybe we can get lucky with cheesecake.

Guys why is this even a topic. It's been confirmed we are getting official ICS by several sources along with moto. The ICS source code was released a little over a month ago, that helped out the devs. We have a solid device for the price and we have devs good enough to keep us happy and get us through until mid to late summer when we get the real thing.

ICS source was released 6 months ago. That doesn't help matters since we don't have an official release, an unlocked bootloader, or a real ICS kernel, however.

JB Rollout Beginning Q2 2013

Motorola website updated to reflect a Q2 2013 rollout for JB 4.1
http://goo.gl/N1hlf (from motorola.com/os)
Verizon Wireless website indicates update is "coming soon" now
http://goo.gl/s73Ym (from support.verizonwireless.com)

The VZW site is still for ICS not JB.

Great part is this should really help the devs make fully working ROMs. I'll stick with my JB 4.2.2 rom and I'm sure they will update it withing a couple weeks of JB coming out.

Sweet! Can't wait!
I can upgrade in June, but I might as well keep this phone for a little longer. Not sure if the Google/Motorola X phone will be out by then anyways.

Yeah I agree. Cm10.1 is great and if moto finally put out theirs it should make the remaining issues disappear.
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