Hello folks,
I know there is no way to backup at the moment. I check the forums daily to see if there have been any updates, but honestly I'm not entirely sure what I should be looking for. Hence this thread- What new developments do we need to reach the point of doing nandroid backups or otherwise repairing any damage we might unintentionally inflict on our shiny new fires? Will it require a rom manager? The ability to boot into recovery mode? What should I look for, and how can I help?
Also, can someone describe the risks of rooting right now? Is it reasonable to assume that we could restore to factory later, once a backup method is developed?
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sorry i searched a lot but couldn' find help as info is sprayed out.
I want to flash a custom rom (zip). my device is rooted, have Odin mobile.
what to save/backup and how ?
what to wipe ? how to ?
then how to flash the rom ?
thx a lot, i'm a big noob on android, i'm from IOS
I am also a newcomer to custom ROMS and would like to try an alternative ROM/Kernel - but I would like to be able to do a complete backup so I could restore the phone to how it is at the moment - just in case!
I am now very confused as I don't really understand what the difference is between a ROM and a Kernel. Some posts say don't use ODIN whilst posts like the previous one seem to be using it. I have also read concerns about "Radio" versions and concerns about the "flash counter". I thought Nandroid was for backup/restore so what is the difference between it and CWM? What is "Busybox" and why do many posts mention it?
Multiple ROMS/Kernels seem to appear everyday and when I try to find a guide for Noobs like myself, they seem to have been posted some time ago and later events and software make me doubt that I could restore if I wanted to.
If I understand correctly, I could do a simple ROOT and then install CWM (ClockWorkMod) to make a complete backup - but I don't know if that is correct.
Then I read about critical memory areas that could be corrupted that contain encrypted phone data unique to my phone (IMEI number etc.) and that by rooting I could brick my phone!
It seems a shame that expert devs are doing things that some of us Noobs would like to try but they seem to forget that some of us are at the start of a steep learning curve when it comes to rooting and installing custom roms or Kernels.
Is there an up to date step by step guide for Noobs like me that explains things in simple language?
UPDATE Well I took the plunge after reading the AndroidNZ guide at http://www.androidnz.net/2011/11/at-your-own-risk-video-guide-for-new.html and the Chainfire thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19030747#post19030747 I have now rooted my Note, made a backup and installed the Titanium Backup app (pro) from the market. Hopefully all is now backed up for experimentation!
htc6500uk said:
I am also a newcomer to custom ROMS and would like to try an alternative ROM/Kernel - but I would like to be able to do a complete backup so I could restore the phone to how it is at the moment - just in case!
I am now very confused as I don't really understand what the difference is between a ROM and a Kernel. Some posts say don't use ODIN whilst posts like the previous one seem to be using it. I have also read concerns about "Radio" versions and concerns about the "flash counter". I thought Nandroid was for backup/restore so what is the difference between it and CWM? What is "Busybox" and why do many posts mention it?
Multiple ROMS/Kernels seem to appear everyday and when I try to find a guide for Noobs like myself, they seem to have been posted some time ago and later events and software make me doubt that I could restore if I wanted to.
If I understand correctly, I could do a simple ROOT and then install CWM (ClockWorkMod) to make a complete backup - but I don't know if that is correct.
Then I read about critical memory areas that could be corrupted that contain encrypted phone data unique to my phone (IMEI number etc.) and that by rooting I could brick my phone!
It seems a shame that expert devs are doing things that some of us Noobs would like to try but they seem to forget that some of us are at the start of a steep learning curve when it comes to rooting and installing custom roms or Kernels.
Is there an up to date step by step guide for Noobs like me that explains things in simple language?
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I'm a newbie at this area too. However, through some tough adaptation to this "expert" environment, my note is running custom ROM with custom kernel now. It's been tough, but it was fun
I just purchased a N7000 and am waiting for delivery. I'm fairly new to Samsung Phones and this will be my first GSM phone.
What is the best way to backup the stock, unrooted image and /EFS? I did do a search and nothing specific to the Note came up and I would have thought the Wiki would have included something but I didn't see it. In the past I would have looked for block devices and just dd the partitions over to my PC. Does this hold true for Samsungs? Is there an easier way to do it from Odin?
I would appreciate any links and insights on starting my Note experience on the right foot.
Thanks
gedster314 said:
I just purchased a N7000 and am waiting for delivery. I'm fairly new to Samsung Phones and this will be my first GSM phone.
What is the best way to backup the stock, unrooted image and /EFS? I did do a search and nothing specific to the Note came up and I would have thought the Wiki would have included something but I didn't see it. In the past I would have looked for block devices and just dd the partitions over to my PC. Does this hold true for Samsungs? Is there an easier way to do it from Odin?
I would appreciate any links and insights on starting my Note experience on the right foot.
Thanks
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You can do virtually nothing of the above unless your Note is rooted. However, once you get root permission, you can
1. backup your complete system from ClockworkMod Recovery (so-called nandroid backup)
2. backup all the apps you install and their data with Titanium Backup or some other backup app
3. backup EFS with EFS Pro
But you don't actually have to backup your stock Rom at all. There's tons of them here at XDA, and all of them are easily flashable via PC Odin. The only thing you stand to lose if something bad happens is your apps, and that's not the end of the world. You can always reinstall them manually, it's no biggie.
Hope this helps.
Thanks, I new about rooting and nandroid. EFS backup is new to me. How are these posted unrooted stock images being created? Are they just updates or are people pulling them from phones? If they are pulling them from a phones, that's what I am looking to learn how todo.
I use to have Nook Color and backing up without rooting could be done but in that case your could boot into ClockWork from a bootable sdcard. Too bad phone Manufacturers are not so nice to allow booting from an sdcard.
Hi, this is noob question about root, its my first android phone and i wonder if root is necessary in my case
as former owner of iphone, i had to jailbreak my phone since apple system is very restricted
Android is more open-minded
i dont want to brick and dont want to spend much time if anything goes wrong
ROOT is it safe? what is its purpose?
Sony has made great stock rom, light and reactive, now with the latest firmware, we got better screen calibration, black navbar...
should i switch to the root or not?
thanks you
It really depends what you want from rooting. Ask yourself, what do you want to mod? Want stock rom? See anything you like from this
Rooting is safe, not unless youre doing it wrong without reading the instructions thoroughly.
Root: granting the users access to system files.
Here is a list of terms you may find helpful.
thanks but i am willing to root my phone but what if anything goes wrong
any backup before installing MODS?
monsieur_debile said:
Hi, this is noob question about root, its my first android phone and i wonder if root is necessary in my case
as former owner of iphone, i had to jailbreak my phone since apple system is very restricted
Android is more open-minded
i dont want to brick and dont want to spend much time if anything goes wrong
ROOT is it safe? what is its purpose?
Sony has made great stock rom, light and reactive, now with the latest firmware, we got better screen calibration, black navbar...
should i switch to the root or not?
thanks you
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When I first rooted my Android phone I was the same, why do I want to do this? I kept asking myself. Simple answer I just wanted to explore and get more understanding off what was in my pocket.
Have you unlocked your bootloader? Can it be unlocked? There is a really good site where there are step by step instructions on how to unlock it, it uses fastboot (to my knowledge - sometime since I done one).
Don't want to spend too much time if it goes wrong -- well how longs a piece of string? It will go wrong if you haven't read the proper tutorials don't go in blind, there are backup facilities available to you just find the one thats best suited for what you're doing.
Enjoy
what should i do before rooting like backup?
is that easy to root phone?
Backing up is really for after rooting as you may try various mods or other roms. You can then back up with twrp/cm. Give rooting a go....
Xperia Z
FTF backup of a "modified official rom"?
Hello everyone!!
I know it’s not the subject, but this being my first time posting here let me start by thanking all of the developers and collaborators for the great works in this community! I have already benefited from a few tutorials and files disposed here, so thanks for everything so far! :good:
Back to the subject now =)
Although I am using an official rom in my Xperia SP I made several modifications to it and I couldn’t find a similar thread involving a “modified official rom”, I only read threads describing how to make a simple FTF backup of an “untouched official rom” through SEUS, which I presume that won’t work in my case. So I hope the more experienced people can give me some directions!
My device is currently rooted and the bootloader is also unlocked through the official Sony method. I substituted the original kernel for the Inteks so that I could use cpu overclocks, removed all the bloatware and integrated some updates and a few new apps in the system through link2sd.
Now I’d like to make a backup of this modified rom before I flash new roms to the device. For what I understood so far, the recovery nandroid backup system will save everything, including installed apps and configurations, right? I’d like to make just a simple rom backup.
I’m afraid that this nandroid “full backup” could decrease the performance after restoration. If I perform a factory reset prior to the nandroid backup, could it minimize the chances of having problems after restoration?
I’m asking this in case there is no manner to create a .ftf file… And, what you guys think about both types of backup, am I getting the wrong impression about nandroid or .ftf files are really better and/or safer??
The current recovery installed in my Neo is “CWM-based Recovery v6.xxx
Should I update it? And if it’s the case, how should I do it??
Is my device really incompatible with Rom Manager, or that message I got was because of the old recovery version installed in my Neo??
(I read about this kind of incompatibility with some devices, just wanna check if it’s the case with my phone and if there is a new recovery for Xperia Neo that is compatible with Rom Manager)
Sorry about the long text and so many questions in a single post, but I really want to understand more about this stuff, all the changes in my phone were done separately during more than a year, so I am not much used to these procedures.
I would appreciate any help! Thanks for the attention!!
niyas0 said:
FTF backup of a "modified official rom"?
Hello everyone!!
I know it’s not the subject, but this being my first time posting here let me start by thanking all of the developers and collaborators for the great works in this community! I have already benefited from a few tutorials and files disposed here, so thanks for everything so far! :good:
Back to the subject now =)
Although I am using an official rom in my Xperia SP I made several modifications to it and I couldn’t find a similar thread involving a “modified official rom”, I only read threads describing how to make a simple FTF backup of an “untouched official rom” through SEUS, which I presume that won’t work in my case. So I hope the more experienced people can give me some directions!
My device is currently rooted and the bootloader is also unlocked through the official Sony method. I substituted the original kernel for the Inteks so that I could use cpu overclocks, removed all the bloatware and integrated some updates and a few new apps in the system through link2sd.
Now I’d like to make a backup of this modified rom before I flash new roms to the device. For what I understood so far, the recovery nandroid backup system will save everything, including installed apps and configurations, right? I’d like to make just a simple rom backup.
I’m afraid that this nandroid “full backup” could decrease the performance after restoration. If I perform a factory reset prior to the nandroid backup, could it minimize the chances of having problems after restoration?
I’m asking this in case there is no manner to create a .ftf file… And, what you guys think about both types of backup, am I getting the wrong impression about nandroid or .ftf files are really better and/or safer??
The current recovery installed in my Neo is “CWM-based Recovery v6.xxx
Should I update it? And if it’s the case, how should I do it??
Is my device really incompatible with Rom Manager, or that message I got was because of the old recovery version installed in my Neo??
(I read about this kind of incompatibility with some devices, just wanna check if it’s the case with my phone and if there is a new recovery for Xperia Neo that is compatible with Rom Manager)
Sorry about the long text and so many questions in a single post, but I really want to understand more about this stuff, all the changes in my phone were done separately during more than a year, so I am not much used to these procedures.
I would appreciate any help! Thanks for the attention!!
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I always use nandroid backup's if I'm in a bootloop, and they always helped me and I never had problems with them. An .ftf file is quite awkward to make and if you only want to have a backup I definetely recommend nandroid backup's. If you only want to backup your data (apps you downloaded, and their data) I prefer and recommend Titanium Backup. I advise against from using a .ftf file as a backup. Nandroid backup's are safe and you don't need to worry
If you only need your backup you don't need to update your CWM recovery
Hi,
A couple of questions about this. Firstly is xposed framework safe to use on the Xperia e4? The warning message about bricking nerved me out a little bit as I can't find info about running it on this phone online.
Also, does anyone know if there is a custom recovery for the e4? Obviously I need to be able to make and recover a nandroid to use xposed safely. I did find one thing on google, but with there only being one mention of it and it not being on xda I'm not sure I trust it. Unfortunately theres not a lot of info available here about this particular phone as we don't have our own subforum.
Thanks
Edit: a lot of my initial questions have been answered, but I still need help, please see post 3
I found people here that are having luck running xposed on the e4 so that's great news, but looks like I am out of luck on custom recovery, so I'm excited to try xposed, but nervous about not being able to do a nandroid first.
I have changed thread title as any phone specific questions I had have been cleared up. But now really wanting to know what other people without custom recoveries have done. As without one I can't create or restore nandroid, or use the disabler zip. What have other people without custom recoveries done to make the process safer?