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As pointed out, comparison charts below have some mistakes:
Good:
. MicroSD expansion.
. Higher density displays.
. Nk9 cheaper than KF HD (16GB: $269 vs 299; 32GB: $299 vs 369)
. No ads (unlike KF HD).
. AC charger included (unlike KF HD).
. Nk7 uses 1.3GHz OMAP 4470 (KF 7HD uses 4460).
Bad:
. No USB; proprietary charging/data port (HDMI adapter available).
. No camera, no NFC, probably no GPS.
. No dual-band wifi, MIMO antenna (unlike KF HD).
. HDMI adapter is $39.
. Single speaker (Nk9); one-sided speakers (Nk7 in landscape).
. Most likely locked.
. Smaller B&N ecosystem, if that matters to XDA peeps.
Misc:
. Bluetooth is apparently available.
. Nk7 has 4050mAh batt; Nk9 has 6000mAh batt.
. Nk7 16GB pricing is same as KF 7HD, if accounting for KF's $10 charger + $15 ad opt-out
. Nk7's two-tone bezel makes it look like a kiddie tablet.
. I like Nk9's 1.5 aspect, which is more suitable for reading than the typical 1.6.
IMO, Nexus7 still wins the 7" category for overall functionality.
For mainstream users, KFHD 8.9 probably wins the 9" category with Amazon's larger ecosystem. For XDA users, it'll depend on which gets unlocked/ROM'ed first. Nook's higher-res display and the SD expansion are positives.
The 9" Nook HD+ clearly has the best bang/buck of the line-up, and indeed for the entire "value" bracket. At $269 for the 16GB, it's only $40 more than the Nook HD, and $20 more than the Nexus 7 16GB. The 3:2 aspect makes it a great full-size reader for PDFs and pretty much anything else. Hopefully the Nook Tab folks can crack this beauty to run CM.
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1280 x 800, not 1800. Also, the Nook's had MicroSD's, and all but the Nexus have HDMI out (built-in or via an adapter). The Nook's also have MicroSD slots.
The 8.9 kindle hd does not start at $499, that is for the Lte one.
The Wi-Fi only starts at $299 for 32, $369 for 64. That is the fair comparison with the nook.
I wouldn't get a nook for the proprietary plug alone. Why not stick to the micro usb?
the Kindle is locked with boot verification. very hard to crack. The Nook well. It's a nook what more to say there. the Nexus 7 is open unlock able with many roms available. no comparison
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There are different contexts of "best device." There's the personal "best," ie what you or I like. Since all the listed devices have compromises, then it depends on the person's wants, and the ecosystem s/he is vested in. Hardware-wise, the Nooks would seem to be the best readers, KFs best at video playback, and Nexus7 best at travelling/location-based uses.
Then there's the XDA perspective of "best," ie functionality as a general-purpose device. In this context, the Nexus7 is obviously the best, at least until Nook or KF gets unlocked. Apparently, Hashcode of KF fame is leading the charge for KFHD unlock, and the crew that unlocked Nook Tablet will probably apply their experience to Nook HD. We'll see how it goes.
One complication is that all these devices have amazing short shelf lives. After only two months from its July release, Nexus7's appeal has gone from an amazing deal to only one of several good choices (we're still waiting on iPad Mini). If it takes more than a couple of months to unlock a device, then its "XDA" appeal will be minimal, once time has passed it by. To wit: Nook Tablet, which was unlocked too late to get much XDA love.
The last definition of "best" is from mainstream users, which is the only one vendors care about. Given the prevailing narrative that "ecosystem matters," then Amazon KFs should have the catbird seat, out of the three. The iPad line will still be top dog for 2012, of course.
Going by this narrative, then B&N has no shot regardless of the Nooks' quality/price, and its best chance is to partner up to bulk up its ecosystem. The partner is likely with MS, given its $300 mil check to B&N. The investment took place in late April, so was too late to affect this hardware cycle, but I fully expect WinRT-based Nooks for the next cycle. These current Nook devices should be the last on Android.
Back to the Nexus/KF/Nook compare, that both Nook and KF have 9" models starkly highlights the glaring need for a 9" or 10" full-Android tablet of comparable quality and price. At this point, there's none. I don't expect to see one for the remainder of this year.
>I wouldn't get a nook for the proprietary plug alone. Why not stick to the micro usb?
Because it's a bad idea.
Having a single micro-USB port is a carryover from smartphones, since it allows charging from PCs. Tablets have a higher current requirement, so you will need to carry a charger regardless.
It's again a bad idea to have only one port for both data and charging. What happens if you want to do both?
Lastly, it's a bad idea because the micro-USB connector is flimsy, and isn't robust enough to last the length of the device's life. Phones' size constraint dictates its use, but tablets are larger devices, and will need better connectivity going forward.
The Nook HD's use of proprietary port isn't good, but it isn't necessarily bad. If the charging cable is separate from the charger, then conceivably one can use a "regular" 10W USB charger for it. The downside is that it's proprietary, but the upside is that it would be more robust than the flimsy micro-USB connector.
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>I wouldn't get a nook for the proprietary plug alone. Why not stick to the micro usb?
Because it's a bad idea.
Having a single micro-USB port is a carryover from smartphones, since it allows charging from PCs. Tablets have a higher current requirement, so you will need to carry a charger regardless.
It's again a bad idea to have only one port for both data and charging. What happens if you want to do both?
Lastly, it's a bad idea because the micro-USB connector is flimsy, and isn't robust enough to last the length of the device's life. Phones' size constraint dictates its use, but tablets are larger devices, and will need better connectivity going forward.
The Nook HD's use of proprietary port isn't good, but it isn't necessarily bad. If the charging cable is separate from the charger, then conceivably one can use a "regular" 10W USB charger for it. The downside is that it's proprietary, but the upside is that it would be more robust than the flimsy micro-USB connector.
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It's not a bad idea.
USB can charge a tablet (it will take longer but it WILL charge). Or at least it will slow the discharge if you are doing some really battery expansive operations while transferring files, which is highly unlikely and this will take short enough to allow you to disconnect once the files are transfered and connect to a proper charger. The only scenario that I can think of is while developing apps where you need the device connected to the PC for a long time.
Proprietary connector MAY be more robust than micro USB. Apple's ridiculous 40 pin connector for example is a joke compared to micro USB. For 4 years I had changed my wife's cable three times and never had to change any of my micro USB cable. I also bought a new charger for my Acer A500 because once yours breaks you can't just use any of the standard USB chargers.
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For me GPS is essential, as is fast updates. :L
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I made the mistake of getting a Nook tablet, was hoping for a good dev community like the Nook colour!
I'm stuck with a tablet on an alpha version of 4.0 that will probably never make beta...and since I'm in the UK, no bugger will buy it since they never heard of it. A big mistake I won't be making again.
Hoping to get a Nexus when the wife forgets I had a tablet previously!
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dannysmith43 said:
I made the mistake of getting a Nook tablet, was hoping for a good dev community like the Nook colour!
I'm stuck with a tablet on an alpha version of 4.0 that will probably never make beta...and since I'm in the UK, no bugger will buy it since they never heard of it. A big mistake I won't be making again.
Hoping to get a Nexus when the wife forgets I had a tablet previously!
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Haha, sorry to hear that mate. Its a truly sad story. I'm sure your wife will understand. Also, be prepared. Once you get a Nexus device you'll refuse to use anything but a nexus device. That's how I ended up with my galaxy nexus. I now have a Galaxy Tab 2 7", Sony Tablet S, Galaxy S2 and Desire HD sitting there collecting dust. Poor sods. Also if anyone interested the tablets are for sale.
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Almost unfair to put the nexus in the same category as the others... glad I didn't even consider the others
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Haha, sorry to hear that mate. Its a truly sad story. I'm sure your wife will understand. Also, be prepared. Once you get a Nexus device you'll refuse to use anything but a nexus device. That's how I ended up with my galaxy nexus. I now have a Galaxy Tab 2 7", Sony Tablet S, Galaxy S2 and Desire HD sitting there collecting dust. Poor sods. Also if anyone interested the tablets are for sale.
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I really fancy a pure google tablet, stock Android with no UI....I love my One X but I've had enough of Sense.
I'm tempted to wait for a tablet that has screen like the One X, I haven't seen android device with one finer!
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I really fancy a pure google tablet, stock Android with no UI....I love my One X but I've had enough of Sense.
I'm tempted to wait for a tablet that has screen like the One X, I haven't seen android device with one finer!
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Stock android is the thing that seals the deal with me, however as for screens, the best screens I've seen are Sony's. My Sony Tablet S screen blows the N7s out the water, but then the Sony doesn't have pure android. Maybe you should get an Xperia S, especially now its an ASOP device, or will be. granted I don't actually know how good the screen is on the xperia s, but I heard it is good.
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I think stock is really ugly. Iam not the creative type that can make it pretty. Iwant it to come nice. I like sense, have a one s right now, but my next phone will probably be Windows.
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I think stock is really ugly. Iam not the creative type that can make it pretty. Iwant it to come nice. I like sense, have a one s right now, but my next phone will probably be Windows.
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You think stock is ugly and want windows, damnnn. Windows is bland, you can't even change your background, at least we can give that to iOS.
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If recent rumors hold true, there will be no competition to Google nexus 7. Reportedly Google and Asus working on 2 new versions of Nexus 7. A thinner one which would retail for $199 and another version for $99. Anticipated release date before the end of this year. By Christmas time in anticipation of rumored Ipad mini. A Nexus 7 at $99 will kill any competition. It will be an impulse buy for most people.
GOOGLE and Asus looking to shake things up again. CNET and other major sites reporting this rumor.
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If recent rumors hold true, there will be no competition to Google nexus 7. Reportedly Google and Asus working on 2 new versions of Nexus 7. A thinner one which would retail for $199 and another version for $99. Anticipated release date before the end of this year. By Christmas time in anticipation of rumored Ipad mini. A Nexus 7 at $99 will kill any competition. It will be an impulse buy for most people.
GOOGLE and Asus looking to shake things up again. CNET and other major sites reporting this rumor.
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Reportedly? You mean rumor that Asus shot down? I swear, people read rumors on tech sites and preach it as gospel.
Various notes:
. The Nook HDs were announced at 1AM ET, with no prior notice whatsoever. It was almost as if B&N were embarrassed to announce them. Unsure why, as new Nooks are very comparable to KFHDs. Perhaps it's the gaffe of lacking HDMI-out that KFHDs have, given the new emphasis on videos. Anyway, very strange, and doesn't bode well for Nook HDs' future support. This reinforces my view that this Nook HD gen is a placeholder iteration.
. Styling of the Nook HD+ is completely different from the HD's. The first borrowed from Nook Tablet's old look, while the second went with newer styling cues from the e-ink Nooks. The lack of styling harmony suggests development was partially ad hoc, and the 7" model was either added or revised after the 9" was done. Again, another sign that these may have a short future.
. KFHD has been out for about two weeks, and KFHD forum traffic here on XDA has been minimal, particularly in the dev forum. This suggests that XDA'ers are content with Nexus 7, although the coming 9" Nook/KF models may get a warmer reception (Nook HD+ available on Nov 1, KFHD 9 on Nov 20).
. The elephant in the room is the expected iPad Mini. Since iPod Touch is now priced at $300, I expect miniPad will be $350. And since both Nook and KF can shoehorn 1080p res into a 9" form, I expect miniPad will have a higher res than the reported 1024x768.
. Both KF/Nook 9" models will come after the reported iPad Mini launch in Oct, as well as the Win 8/RT tablets' launches on Oct 26. There'll be lots of toys vying for people's attention. WinRT tabs probably won't hit the $300-and-under bracket, but if Ballmer does the limbo and Surface RT is priced at $300 or the rumored $200, it will add considerable turbulence to the low-end.
. Back to Nexus 7. I used Goog Dashboard (http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html) to gauge JB adoption rate, as a proxy for N7's adoption rate. The latest data (for 1.5 months of N7 sales) doesn't show a noticeable uptick in JB adoption. This suggests that while N7 sales may be good, it isn't awesome, and won't be enough by itself to carry the "open Android" banner forward. N7 sales won't get any better, with impending launches of the many competing tablets. Google needs a 9" or 10" Nexus to compete.
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Hoping to get a Nexus when the wife forgets I had a tablet previously!
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Let me say as a wife, that this is likely not to happen!
Doodling with finding display sizes of the various tablets, using my long-rusted math:
let C = diagonal, AR = aspect ratio
Pythagorean: C^2 = A^2 + B^2 = A^2 + AR^2 * A^2 = (AR^2 + 1) * A^2
A = ( C^2 / (AR^2 + 1) )^0.5
B = (( C^2 / (AR^2 + 1) )^0.5 ) * AR
Area = C^2 / (AR^2 + 1) * AR
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Display areas:
Nexus 7 / KFHD 7 / Nook HD (C=7, AR=16/10): 22.0 sq in
KFHD 9 (C=8.9, AR=16/10): 35.6 sq in
Nook HD+ (C=9, AR=3/2): 37.4 sq in
iPad (C=9.7, AR=4/3): 45.2 sq in
iPad Mini (C=7.85, AR=4/3): 29.6 sq in
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Display widths (portrait):
diag=7, AR=17/10: 3.54" - Nook Color, KF, Galaxy Tab 2 7"
diag=7, AR=16/10: 3.71" - Nexus 7, KFHD 7, Nook HD
diag=8, AR=16/10: 4.24" - Galaxy Note 8
diag=7.85, AR=4/3: 4.71" - iPad Mini
diag=8.9, AR=16/10: 4.72" - KFHD 8.9
diag=8, AR=4/3: 4.80" - (most Android 8" tabs)
diag=9, AR=3/2: 4.99" - Nook HD+
diag=10.6, AR=16/9: 5.20" - Surface RT/Pro
diag=10, AR=16/10: 5.30" - Nexus 10, (most Android 10" tabs)
diag=11.6, AR=16/9: 5.69" - (most 11.6" Win8 tabs)
diag=9.7, AR=4/3: 5.82" - iPad, (most Android 9.7" tabs)
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I'm a very happy owner of a rooted NC and have been following the progress of the Nook Tablet, planning to get one when the cm team puts out a rom for it.
Today I see that the Asus Transformer will be $250 at Best Buy for Black Friday.
I haven't been following the Transformer so I'm not very familiar with it. A quick look at the cm and xda forums doesn't seem to show any roms for this device so that is a concern.
Is this tablet a better buy than the Nook Tablet for the same price? Note I'm talking about a NT with cm on it, not a base device.
Would it be worth the hassle of dealing with Black Friday at Best Buy?
@ $250 get the Transformer if you can, you get HDMI out, Camera and GPS, just to name a few of the advantages.
The Transformer it's a top notch tablet.
It is bigger, faster, fully capable tablet.
Honeycomb feels elegant and sophisticated compared to CM7.
I bought the keyboard dock and spend about 50/50 with and without the keyboard.
The Nook has size advantage when it comes to taking it anywhere in my purse but I love both equally.
Battery life is excellent. I got mine for $300 but I am glad I won't be standing in line to get one for $250
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The Transformer it's a top notch tablet.
It is bigger, faster, fully capable tablet.
Honeycomb feels elegant and sophisticated compared to CM7.
I bought the keyboard dock and spend about 50/50 with and without the keyboard.
The Nook has size advantage when it comes to taking it anywhere in my purse but I love both equally.
Battery life is excellent. I got mine for $300 but I am glad I won't be standing in line to get one for $250
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Good luck trying to root the Transformer!
docfreed said:
Good luck trying to root the Transformer!
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I realize I wouldn't be rooting the transformer. Just wondering how the two devices would compare. Thanks for all the input so far.
Would the transformer be in line for an ICS upgrade?
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Good luck trying to root the Transformer!
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What? There is root/recovery/ROMs out for the device.
Transformer is lightning fast compared to the Nook. I have both including the dock and I have stopped using my Nook except for reading. Just a way better experience.
The TF (Tegra 2) is about on par with the Nook Tablet (OMAP 4430) for general computing, but is much worse than the NT for video playback.
The TF has HDMI out, but has no USB port. To get USB, you need to buy the dock, which I understand is $100. The dock does add a keyboard along with an extended battery, but it also adds weight. Effectively, with the dock, the TF will be an underpowered $350 netbook with detachable screen. The hybrid setup tends to be a love-hate situation. I myself prefer use of a BT keyboard that can be used for any tablet.
The TF has an IPS screen, but build quality is somewhat iffy, with speakers going out and various other ailments. Per freq of problem reports in the various Tegra 2 tabs' forums, it's about on par with the Acer Iconia, and less reliable than the Xoom or the Samsung GT.
As of this moment, the latest TF B70 stepping is still unrootable, ever since Asus changed its SBK (secure boot key). I wouldn't count on rooting the TF, since the issue has been around since August.
The TF will likely get official ICS upgrade some time early 2012.
IMO, it depends on your use. If you want an integrated keyboard, then the TF ($350 w/ keyboard) is better. It also has a larger screen, which is better for certain uses and certain people, eg older users.
I don't think it's a "better-worse" decision, since the TF and NT are different enough with little overlap. BTW, the TF has been periodically on sale at $300 for a while, so basically you'll be doing the fight-the-stampede deal for $50.
$250 is a pretty good price. If I wasn't going to get the tf prime I would pick one up.
You might be able to get it on cyber Monday online and not have to deal with the crazy people at black Friday sales.
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I had no intentions of rooting the Transformer - it is great without it.
ASUS has already announced that they would be upgrading the Transformers to Ice Cream Sandwich.
I haven't had any issues with video but I don't intend to stream video to my TV; I have a Roku, a Sony Media Player and an LG Bluray all with wifi so I can stream from those.
IMO I think the ASUS Transformer is one of the best tablets out there and worth the $250 or $300 it costs.
Edit: ASUS has really impressed me with their willingness to issue OS updates for this device. I don't think any phones or other tablets have gotten as much love from the manufacturer.
Will they keep up with the updates now that the prime is coming out?
That is a great price. I have the NC and the TF. The TF is a full tablet running Honeycomb. Even without rooting it is a great experience. Much better than the CM7.1 on the NC. FWIW, Asus has provided great support on the TF. They just updated the firmware on Thursday. Some post have said that ICS is coming to the TF in January.
If comparing both as tablets then; the Transformer wins because it is usable as a HC tablet out-of-the-box with official G Market support plus the pending upgrade to ICS.
The NT will require aftermarket hacking and OSes to run as a tablet.
It will of course enjoy great developer support (here & elsewhere) assuming the 'SD card-boots-first' holds true to make it easier. I doubt if we see anything beyond Gingerbread on the NT.
However, dealing with the lines of people on frigid mornings outside BB is not worth it (IMO). It seems every year the lines keep getting longer and longer with people coming in at 9:00 p.m. the previous night. Just not worth it anymore.
I would rather get the NT for $250 and mess with it.
On a side note: I am excited about the NT since it comes with a dual-core, more ram and storage and a mic. I have 3 year extended coverage with ADH handling from ST. Hope my NC breaks down in the next 12 months; might get the NT as replacement....he he.
I thought about it, and after finding out the closest best buy is almost 2 hours away, I just said nah.
Plus, I'm dying to see if I can get the NT as a replacement in case something "terrible" were to happen to my NC lol.
I love my NC. My son does too, but he wants to get a full sized tablet. His budget is $300. Anyone have some experience with some of the older tablets that you can purchase refurbished in this range? Any help would be great.
Wait for NEXUS 7 at Google IO
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Get the Nexus 7. I love my Nook Color but sadly it's Specs have officially been labeled outdated by the Nexus 7. For $200/250 You get a Quad-Core CPU, 12core GPU, 8/16gb of Storage, 1gb RAM, WiFi, Bluetooth(With an actual Antenna), NFC, $25 Google Play credit, Tons of Preloaded Apps, Android 4.1 Jellybean. The list is just pure beauty. If you have $200 to burn then this is THE Tablet to get now. Amazon and B&N just got one-upped Big Time. Nexus 7 ships Mid-July and is available for PreOrder from the Google Play store: HERE
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I love my NC. My son does too, but he wants to get a full sized tablet. His budget is $300. Anyone have some experience with some of the older tablets that you can purchase refurbished in this range? Any help would be great.
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Well, you said full-size. There is the (discontinued) TouchPad, which is 10" or so, and you can get those pretty cheap.
They run CM9 pretty well, I have to say. (full disclosure: I helped port it). My big issue with the touchpad is I'm not a fan of the size, and it's a little thick/heavy.
If by full size, you mean a 10.1" tablet, then your options are very limited. The really good 10inch tablets start at about $350 (the 16GB Asus TF300 can be had for a twenty bucks more than that).
Alternatively, if you're not looking for something cutting edge, then there are plenty of refurbished last-year models going around for less than $300. Acer is selling refurbished A500 units for as little as $229 on its eBay store, and if you keep an eye open on sites like techbargains.com for similar deals that come and go.
(Refurbished might be a bit of a gamble, but it's paid off handsomely for me in the past -- bought my Nook Color that way too. Buying direct from the manufacturer helps though. Just make sure they really are refurbished and not "pre-owned".)
Finally (at the risk of raising the ire of the Android gods, you can also get a refurbished iPad 2 for $319 from Apple, which isn't a bad price either.
But if you could stretch a little beyond $300, and want something new, then I think the Asus TF300 is probably your best bet at the moment. There might be some downward pressure on 10-inch prices with the introduction of the HD models (the Acer A700 is only $450, which is the same price as the lower-def A510, so that has to drop) but I haven't seen anything yet.
I would definitely go with the Nexus 7. I planned on selling my Nook and HP Touchpad to get one.
Nexus 7 would be stunning if Google included a mSD slot. Looks gr8 as is, not stunning though.
Which one would you prefer, the nexus 7 or a galaxy tab plus 16gb wifi only? The last ones are at $237.90 refurbished at amazon. The GT+ will receive a software upgrade, so the only differences will be the ir blaster, back camera, sd slot, screen resolution, NFC (don't know what it is ) and the chipset. Which one would you prefer?
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umm...Nexus 7...
quad core Tegra 3 processor, 12 core GPU, NFC (wireless data transfer that is more secure than bluetooth) and a whole bunch more goodies...
plus it comes with 4.1 installed...
all at a low low price of $199...
can't beat it
Several sources say Google doesn't take any margin on the product, so you are basically paying the manufacturer price for the Nexus 7 (and any required warranty by law). There won't be anyone beating that for a while.
Oh, and it weighs the same as the Nook Color/Tablet
The only bummer I see is that adobe flash won't be officially supported (if I didn't misunderstood), but since the N7 may be the next developers tab I think it will be somehow updated by devs.
The lack of sd slot almost made me not to be interested on it but when I reviewed the GT+ vs Transformer Prime reviews and benchmarks I got convinced, the Prime is just to fast. If I get the N7 I will buy the 16gb version, 8gb it's just to little (like the Nook Color's memory).
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Google...basically gently rose up from the Shadows. Flexed it's muscles. And instantly KO'd every company making ****ty small tablets.
In one move. One fell swoop.
Speak softly and carrying a big stick. Well Played Google.
While I know we are a bit upset over the sd slot, and hdmi. You've got to admit, this makes pretty much any other 200 tablet a piece of garbage now.
Thoughts?
Lawyers everywhere are celebrating the arrival of the Nexus 7.
Google represents deep pockets, and every two-bit company with ripped-off patents will be looking to cash in.
Nah, they just like to set the price and standards on each subsequent generation of android devices. Asus was going to release it regardless, Google just changed the standard of such devices taking out what we would call standard features that most people won't need and lowing the price on said standard while keeping the same performance.
gotta give google some credit... they have the technology and know how to use it
While I was hoping it would have the original features of the memo pad as revealed as ces I'm thrilled by this tablet. I think having its software come directly from Google and carrying the nexus moniker more than makes up for the hardware changes.
This tablet was an excellent move by Google because not only is it great hardware wise, but the 7 inch market is where they can build a foothold on the tablet market.
I'm happy it is priced so competitively but to scoff at other companies giving less for more money bothers me. Google isn't making profit off this tablet. They hope to raise revenue from play store purchases, etc, but other companies that produce these need to make money off what they build. I don't begrudge them for that. In the end it would be nice for other stockish android tablet makers to either commit to keeping devices on the latest OS, or release source for drivers, etc when they discontinue support for them so that unofficial builds could continue.
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Nah, they just like to set the price and standards on each subsequent generation of android devices. Asus was going to release it regardless, Google just changed the standard of such devices taking out what we would call standard features that most people won't need and lowing the price on said standard while keeping the same performance.
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Let's just hope other oems will follow this standard of pure android and follow the supposed 5 nexus devices this fall. I love my phone but I love pure Google also
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Google...basically gently rose up from the Shadows. Flexed it's muscles. And instantly KO'd every company making ****ty small tablets.
In one move. One fell swoop.
Speak softly and carrying a big stick. Well Played Google.
While I know we are a bit upset over the sd slot, and hdmi. You've got to admit, this makes pretty much any other 200 tablet a piece of garbage now.
Thoughts?
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They bought the rights to sell the ASUS ME370T rebranded as the nexus 7 with features removed.
They didn't KO ASUS.
That being said, I'm praying to Moore that their 10" nexus 10 is a rebranded infinity pad from ASUS.
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That being said, I'm praying to Moore that their 10" nexus 10 is a rebranded infinity pad from ASUS.
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no way at the rumored $300 price point. plus infinity is already released. no way you will get true HD 1080P nexus tablet with most powerful tegra3 variant(highest clocked, higher voltage, higher clocked gpu, bandwidth on controller increased) for that cheap. we can dream though..lol.
I see a nexus 10 model being closer to transformer 300 minus some features to lower price point. nexus 7 already uses exact same tegra3 chipset as in transformer 300, which is the T30L variant. So Asus/Google could build a Nexus based on that design. minus some features. corners have to be cut to make the cheaper price point.
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Asus was going to release it regardless, Google just changed the standard of such devices taking out what we would call standard features that most people won't need and lowing the price on said standard while keeping the same performance.
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Yeah, google's only real contribution here was the hype (not insignifigant). And it's price for meddling was removal of features (like sd card) Asus was probably willing to include.
To be honest, I'm not sure it was worth it. And we can never really know, short of travelling to that alternate reality where Asus did release that $250 memo.
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Yeah, google's only real contribution here was the hype (not insignifigant). And it's price for meddling was removal of features (like sd card) Asus was probably willing to include.
To be honest, I'm not sure it was worth it. And we can never really know, short of travelling to that alternate reality where Asus did release that $250 memo.
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More realistic for it to have been $350 and have ICS instead of Jelly Bean.
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Yeah, google's only real contribution here was the hype (not insignifigant). And it's price for meddling was removal of features (like sd card) Asus was probably willing to include.
To be honest, I'm not sure it was worth it. And we can never really know, short of travelling to that alternate reality where Asus did release that $250 memo.
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More realistic for it to have been $350 and have ICS instead of Jelly Bean.
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I'm pretty sure his 250 quote came directly from Asus back when they announced they where releasing it.
I think N7 is the best move that Google could make with Android tablets. With N7, Google can
1. increase the market share, which is lagging iPad.
2. preempt the 7" iPad mini
3. kill cheap android tablets
4. set a standard to avoid fragmentation
5. diminish perception of android tablet = kindle fire
6. stepping stone for play store's long term success
anything I missed?
It might also bring down the price of some of the higher end tablets (are people really willing to pay an extra $xxx just to get feature xxx?)
Please don't think I'm defending lower hardware specs, but the truth is that Nexus devices are great for their SOFTWARE. Other than the Nexus One, these devices have been great, with good hardware but typically not bleeding edge. They contain enough to do what Google sets out to do. I used to be mad about this but now I'm quite happy. There's more to having a great device than the absolute edge of technology. When I got the Nexus S it was the best Gingerbread phone until Google release the next phone... the Galaxy Nexus. I have the GSM Galaxy Nexus now (ordered int'l in Jan) and though it wasn't the end all of hardware when it came out on paper... it is STILL the best ICS device as well. Now on JB, it simply flies. Why is this?
Simply, the way software and hardware are integrated, it's at Apple levels, dare I say. If you look at superior hardware phones like the One X and SGS III, there are hiccups and hangups or other things created by their custom UI's, etc. Plus, the software is written by Google for the Nexus devices to run well.
I'm not saying the galaxy nexus or other nexus device will have the highest benchmarks or play Temple Run the best, but they tend to function as a whole better than their brethren.
The Nexus 7 seems to be the same way. Jellybean is amazing. As Morfic stated, it makes ICS seem like Vista to Jellybean's Windows 7. It may be basically the same kernel, but it does everything it's predecessor does, better and more. Since they hired Mathias Duarte, I believe Android has not just the most functional OS of mobiles, but also the most cohesive and sharpest looking. All of this is my opinion of course, but I remember when GB came out and compared my Nexus S to the iPhone 4 and thought it still LOOKED a little rough. Now, in addition to it doing more, it looks and feels better as well.
My hope is that the Nexus 7 and Google's focus on this device will bring better Tablet UI apps and allows them to take market share from Apple the way they have done the past few years with their phones.
I think they killed all competition in the 7" Android market entirely I'm guessing, and maybe will do the same to the bigger Android tablets if the rumored 10" is released.
Unfortunately, I think this will cause other companies to not build 7" tablets with better specs since most people aren't going to pay much more to have them.. (Like video out, micro sd, haptic feedback, etc.)
The Toshiba Excite 7.7 16gb @ $500? Dead, dead, dead. Only big difference is microsd and AMOLED. And timely updates from Toshiba? Not likely.
Galaxy Tab 7.7? Hard to say. Only the Verizon model is available directly in the US, so maybe it will hang on since it has cell radio, MHL, haptic feedback, microsd, AMOLED, etc. But then again it's over DOUBLE the price. (Disclaimer: I love mine. Verizon, where is my ICS update????)
There are 10" tablets out there for about the same price as the N7, running ICS, with SD cards etc. And they'll sell about 3 of them - because 'joe public' doesn't buy noname chinese hardware that's (in their mind) 'too cheap'.
A google tablet, on the store shelves next to everything else, with google's name on it - they'll buy that. Then you start to shift a few. Then other manufacturers can start to shift a few, too, because suddenly people have friends with an android tablet and they want one too. 'Not an ipad' ceases to be the death blow that it is currently.
acegolfer said:
I think N7 is the best move that Google could make with Android tablets. With N7, Google can
1. increase the market share, which is lagging iPad.
2. preempt the 7" iPad mini
3. kill cheap android tablets
4. set a standard to avoid fragmentation
5. diminish perception of android tablet = kindle fire
6. stepping stone for play store's long term success
anything I missed?
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a slap in apples face for their overpriced ipad and marketing condescending commercials :good:
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There are 10" tablets out there for about the same price as the N7, running ICS, with SD cards etc. And they'll sell about 3 of them - because 'joe public' doesn't buy noname chinese hardware that's (in their mind) 'too cheap'.
A google tablet, on the store shelves next to everything else, with google's name on it - they'll buy that. Then you start to shift a few. Then other manufacturers can start to shift a few, too, because suddenly people have friends with an android tablet and they want one too. 'Not an ipad' ceases to be the death blow that it is currently.
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But these cheap tablets... The usually have no support, and no software updates, etc. That's also a huge reason ppl don't go buy them.
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Please don't think I'm defending lower hardware specs, but the truth is that Nexus devices are great for their SOFTWARE. Other than the Nexus One, these devices have been great, with good hardware but typically not bleeding edge. They contain enough to do what Google sets out to do. I used to be mad about this but now I'm quite happy. There's more to having a great device than the absolute edge of technology. When I got the Nexus S it was the best Gingerbread phone until Google release the next phone... the Galaxy Nexus. I have the GSM Galaxy Nexus now (ordered int'l in Jan) and though it wasn't the end all of hardware when it came out on paper... it is STILL the best ICS device as well. Now on JB, it simply flies. Why is this?
Simply, the way software and hardware are integrated, it's at Apple levels, dare I say. If you look at superior hardware phones like the One X and SGS III, there are hiccups and hangups or other things created by their custom UI's, etc. Plus, the software is written by Google for the Nexus devices to run well.
I'm not saying the galaxy nexus or other nexus device will have the highest benchmarks or play Temple Run the best, but they tend to function as a whole better than their brethren.
The Nexus 7 seems to be the same way. Jellybean is amazing. As Morfic stated, it makes ICS seem like Vista to Jellybean's Windows 7. It may be basically the same kernel, but it does everything it's predecessor does, better and more. Since they hired Mathias Duarte, I believe Android has not just the most functional OS of mobiles, but also the most cohesive and sharpest looking. All of this is my opinion of course, but I remember when GB came out and compared my Nexus S to the iPhone 4 and thought it still LOOKED a little rough. Now, in addition to it doing more, it looks and feels better as well.
My hope is that the Nexus 7 and Google's focus on this device will bring better Tablet UI apps and allows them to take market share from Apple the way they have done the past few years with their phones.
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I agree with you on some of the points but One x and SGSIII are not hick ups. One x might had some problems earlier but SGSIII never had any problem and it is the best ICS phone not Galaxy Nexus. I sold my Galaxy Nexus 2 weeks back and this was the first phone which does not make me feel wow about anything at all. It was doing everything at acceptable level but best at nothing. I agree that at $350 price tag it is a nice phone but I bought this phone only because I was short of money. Google did well with Nexus one, Nexus S and they were indeed best phones but Galaxy Nexus was just okay sort of phone even when it was released last year. I think the new Nexus would be much better which hopefully would be released later this year.
On the other hand what you have said about Nexus 7 on the other hand is true. Even though I have iPad 3 64GB with 4G but I understand what google is trying to do with Nexus 7 and I love what they did. I was looking for a good 7 inch tablet and there was nothing good in the market in 7 inch beside toshiba 7.7 but it was too pricey. Who is going to pay more than 500 for a 7.7 inch android tablet? Google on the other hand done very well by introducing Nexus 7 only for 200 and nothing can beat it at this price point or even nothing with 300 more price tag can beat it. It is even better than Asus Pad TF300 which cost way more than Nexus 7. The 7 inch form factor is also great and google made a very good choice.
Like many others on this forum, I am deeply enamoured to the 8.9 form factor. For me it's the sweet spot between having enough screen space for lounging at home without being too bulky or heavy to throw into my messenger with other stuff and carry around. When LG first announced their first tablet would be 8.9 based on customer research, I knew I'd be drawn to it, having found the original iPad too bulky. But by the time it came state sides as t mobile spring board it was out of spec and unwieldy. So when Samsung announced the galaxy tab 8.9 with current specs and lighter and thinner than ipad2 dimensions, I knew I was going to get it. After playing around with the 10.1 while waiting for the 8.9, then getting the 8.9 soon after it's release, there was no turning back!
Now, I plan to stick with this 8.9 for at least through the year, but admittedly in a world where quad cores and 1080nd screens are coming out, I've been keenly waiting to see if a current successor to the 8.9 would be announced, either by Sammy or another vendor, and I have become anxious that this form factor might die out. I secretly hope that there will be a galaxy note 8.9 in addition to the galaxy note 10.1 set for Q3, but I'm not seeing anything.
Then today I read this news on the new kindle fire rumors, and lo and behold, a 8.9 size with 1080hd screen is there!
http://m.cnet.com/news/at-least-three-kindle-fire-2-tablets-one-with-4g-on-the-way/57467294
This kind of torments my heart. I'm glad to see a manufacturer come up with these specs and hope it prods others too. But I'm not really glad it's a Amazon kindle. I tried the kindle fire for about a month before selling it, and I was quite disappointed at the sluggishness, box like design, and I'm not sure I trust Amazon to build a quality tablet anymore. And I fear Amazon will be more restrictive in terms of root-and port-ability, not to mention lack even more developer support.
But then if this is the only 8.9 tablet on the market at the end of the year and foreseeable future, I might feel compelled. What are your thoughts on the next 8.9 tablet for you?
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if we can hack it and use a real version of Android then i can NOT wait for an 8.9 update.
I hate the Amazon interface, i personally really prefer Google's Android and the variety of choice in Google Play.
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if we can hack it and use a real version of Android then i can NOT wait for an 8.9 update.
I hate the Amazon interface, i personally really prefer Google's Android and the variety of choice in Google Play.
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Yeah, if the hardware is good enough(quad core and 1080p), and it is hackable, then I guess I'll consider the kindle too.
Though Amazon app store had a few good deals, I have to say, I much prefer the Google play too (as much as I dislike that name), if only to avoid update lags.
I so do wish we'll have more 8.9 inch options later this year!
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Yeah, if the hardware is good enough(quad core and 1080p), and it is hackable, then I guess I'll consider the kindle too.
Though Amazon app store had a few good deals, I have to say, I much prefer the Google play too (as much as I dislike that name), if only to avoid update lags.
I so do wish we'll have more 8.9 inch options later this year!
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Same here. All I wait is for an HD version with quad-core 8.9 and I will pounced on it.
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I'm surprised the 8.9 size isn't more popular to be honest. I've always though that the iPad was a hell of a cumbersome thing, even the 2nd and 3rd generation versions, but that the Kindle Fire and other 7" devices tend to be almost like slightly overgrown smartphones, too small for web browsing and barely an investment in themselves unless you're a heavy eBook reader. 8.9 got it bang on but doesn't seem to have kicked off, to the point that Sammy haven't done an 8.9 Tab2.
Do remember though that the Tab2 range is almost the same product manufactured differently to get the price down (and redesigned to avoid further law suits from Apple) so other than waiting for OS updates there's not much of a disadvantage owning a Galaxy Tab 8.9.
But yeah, the 8.9 is the Goldie-Locks tablet, it's not too big, not too small, just right!
Personally, if we can get a Jelly Bean port after the official ICS release then I'm set.
I don't play intensive games so have no need for quad core anything. I'll be sticking with my GT8.9 for some time I think.
I do enjoy my 8.9 as well, but I think Samsung and other manufactures put out a bunch of different sizes the last couple years to feel out the market. Its looking like the 10inch and 7inch are prolly gonna become the normal going forward with most manufacturers if I were to guess.
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I do enjoy my 8.9 as well, but I think Samsung and other manufactures put out a bunch of different sizes the last couple years to feel out the market. Its looking like the 10inch and 7inch are prolly gonna become the normal going forward with most manufacturers if I were to guess.
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Which is really tragic, considering he majority of consumers never had much of a chance to try out a 8.9. If anything, I hope a kindle fire does come out in 8.9, if only, so that it peaks consumer and manufacturer interest in the 8.9 form factor!
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I think 8.9 could do well if one company focused on only 8.9...
I have the same feeling about me 8.9, it is just the perfect size, I really dont get why
We dont have a new Sammy 8.9, I think Xoom2 is a alternative.
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I think 8.9 could do well if one company focused on only 8.9...
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Well, not that I'd wish to restrict the choice of others, but if you think about it, the tab 8.9 if the same height as the iPad, which speaks to it's optimal size, yet it's lighter and with 16:10 dimensions good for watching movies too ... so I do wish and think companies should show more love for 8.9s.
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8.9 is the right size but too many people dont know it :-(
I have tried the Ipad, the original thrive and galaxy, a trans prime, the fire and the Acer 7 inch, and my beloved touchpad and the galaxy tab 8.9 is just the perfect size and the screen is much prettier than ips displays. I love it. But the tegra 2 is just not enough. My poor tab just can't handle HD vids. So sadly my touchpad gets more use than my galaxy. Also I wish it had expandable memory. Come on Sammy why didn't you give this beauty an SD card slot? So while I agree that the 8.9 is just the right size it is due for an upgrade. Sadly it doesn't look as though one will be here soon enough. So for me its just waiting for someone to make a tab with a prettier screen and expandable memory. Unfortunaty for me none of the new tabs have a good screen. Ips displays have washed out colors when you compare them to an Ipad or a Samsung tablet. As for the 8.9 fire 2 it could be a decent machine. I put an aokp ics rom on my friends kindle and its a decent tablet now. Just a bit too small for me. Only time will tell but here's to my prayers for Sammy to make an 8.9 2 with a real processor and a SD card slot! That would be the best.
I've owned: Transformer w/dock., Iconia A500, Toshiba Thrive, Streak 7, Evo View, 8" china pad, Evo View, Archos 80 G9 and of course the 8.9. Left in the stable are the
Evo View: I'm on sprint so having the data plan is nice, but it sits on my nightstand on wifi and used once in a blue moon. Will probably sell it soon while it still has some value. 7" is just too small and not enough of a size difference over my 4" phone. I like the stylus, but haven't used it as much as I thought I would. The data plan is nice because some wifi at the hospitals I go to have a sign in, and for some odd reason webmail doesn't work while on it. Really odd. It was the same on the touchpad. Yet the Apple crowd had no issues. Haven't figured that one out.
Archos 80 G9: I paid $125 via Staples last month for it. Like the 4:3 8" size. Dual core OMAP, connectivity out the wazoo (full size usb, hdmi, microSD and microUSB), and I've been on official ICS since day one. The screen isn't bad. It has a little more heft and big side bezels, but it's comfy and more comfy to hold than any 10.1". Plus it has the built in kickstand. Another reason to ditch the Evo View. I have a dock for it, and I wouldn't need the dock to keep it upright on the nightstand. still not my ideal screen size as HD content is no better than a 7" tablet, or slightly less even. Not sure on that math.
And the 8.9: Tegra 2 is fine for me. No hi profile blu ray rips for me. I have the usb dongle for a card reader. Great screen even if it is PLS. The size and weight is the perfect trade off for carrying between the 10" and 7" while still having enough real estate to make media viewing and reading enjoyable. Best screen size out there if you ask me.
That being said, I want a 9 or 4:3. I think that's the best of both worlds. HD would still be a bit larger than a 7" tablet and everything else would be a nice 4:3 9" . And I want built in connectivity. microSD and HDMI are key. So until that comes, I have no need to buy another tablet unless the 8.9 and Archos become obsolete.
Yeah, I getcha... An 8.9 with Tegra 3 would be nice. For me, well, HD Movies on this little screen, personally I wouldn't notice/appreciate the difference, I watch some SD stuff and stream Netflix on there when I can't use my TV and it looks sharp as anything to be honest, heh... Tegra 3 would be nice for gaming though.
I know what you mean, I've been hoping to hear some rumors of a Galaxy Note 8.9 as well. Honestly the 10-inch form factor feels too big, and the 7-inch too small. The 8.9 felt just felt perfect and the S-Pen is now a big deal for me on a tablet. Stick in some internals like whats in the Galaxy SIII (quad-core, 2 GB ram, NFC/Android Beam, Jelly Bean, and 2MP FFC/5MP Rear Camera). Bring back the IR blaster from the original Tab 8.9, and a 1080p screen (to keep in competition with the Retina display). Then all they'd have to do is keep it thin and light (not plastic-like) and I'd probably camp out for that one, even if it costs $599
I have never had a 7" tablet before, this is why I bring up this thread. Currently, my tablet is used mostly for things like reddit or for taking it around the house when my phone screen i just too small. I bring the tablet to browse the web, watch youtube vids occasionally or bring up my iHeartRadio app in the morning because it has a larger speaker. But another thing I use it for is school. See, I often try to find my books online in ebook form as it is cheaper and more convienent, and sometimes even free lol. I have used my HP touchpad for this previously, for those unfamiliar, it has a 9.7" screen, and it does the job well.
I figure the 7" screen would be fine for webbrowsing as I have used them at the verizon store and have a nice form factor and are decently easy to read from, but I wonder if anyone has any experience reading large page pdf files or textbooks with images on the pages. I want to know if this is easy to read or if it is impractical to use the nexus 7 as a textbook reader. If anyone would be so kind as to share you experiences with me or even post up a picture of your Nexus 7 with an ebook using adobe or something, that would be great.
The Touchpad is great for what it is. It is dual booted with the latest cm9 and I really have no complaints. It has its issues, like the camera and mic not working, but otherwise it is solid. The n7 seems to have a better processor, the same ram, and a better screen, as well as more gpus I am sure, but the screen is much smaller. I just worry that 7" is not all that much larger than my sgs3's 4.8" and I won't be able to read texts off of it without constantly pinch zooming and rearranging the screen.
yes, 10 char
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I have never had a 7" tablet before, this is why I bring up this thread. Currently, my tablet is used mostly for things like reddit or for taking it around the house when my phone screen i just too small. I bring the tablet to browse the web, watch youtube vids occasionally or bring up my iHeartRadio app in the morning because it has a larger speaker. But another thing I use it for is school. See, I often try to find my books online in ebook form as it is cheaper and more convienent, and sometimes even free lol. I have used my HP touchpad for this previously, for those unfamiliar, it has a 9.7" screen, and it does the job well.
I figure the 7" screen would be fine for webbrowsing as I have used them at the verizon store and have a nice form factor and are decently easy to read from, but I wonder if anyone has any experience reading large page pdf files or textbooks with images on the pages. I want to know if this is easy to read or if it is impractical to use the nexus 7 as a textbook reader. If anyone would be so kind as to share you experiences with me or even post up a picture of your Nexus 7 with an ebook using adobe or something, that would be great.
The Touchpad is great for what it is. It is dual booted with the latest cm9 and I really have no complaints. It has its issues, like the camera and mic not working, but otherwise it is solid. The n7 seems to have a better processor, the same ram, and a better screen, as well as more gpus I am sure, but the screen is much smaller. I just worry that 7" is not all that much larger than my sgs3's 4.8" and I won't be able to read texts off of it without constantly pinch zooming and rearranging the screen.
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well i had an hp touchpad too, but i say for you to go for the nexus, it will be a much better buy and will have much longer support than the hp touchpad.
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I have never had a 7" tablet before, this is why I bring up this thread. Currently, my tablet is used mostly for things like reddit or for taking it around the house when my phone screen i just too small. I bring the tablet to browse the web, watch youtube vids occasionally or bring up my iHeartRadio app in the morning because it has a larger speaker. But another thing I use it for is school. See, I often try to find my books online in ebook form as it is cheaper and more convienent, and sometimes even free lol. I have used my HP touchpad for this previously, for those unfamiliar, it has a 9.7" screen, and it does the job well.
I figure the 7" screen would be fine for webbrowsing as I have used them at the verizon store and have a nice form factor and are decently easy to read from, but I wonder if anyone has any experience reading large page pdf files or textbooks with images on the pages. I want to know if this is easy to read or if it is impractical to use the nexus 7 as a textbook reader. If anyone would be so kind as to share you experiences with me or even post up a picture of your Nexus 7 with an ebook using adobe or something, that would be great.
The Touchpad is great for what it is. It is dual booted with the latest cm9 and I really have no complaints. It has its issues, like the camera and mic not working, but otherwise it is solid. The n7 seems to have a better processor, the same ram, and a better screen, as well as more gpus I am sure, but the screen is much smaller. I just worry that 7" is not all that much larger than my sgs3's 4.8" and I won't be able to read texts off of it without constantly pinch zooming and rearranging the screen.
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If you're happy with a touchpad, you're easily impressed. Get a nexus. Hint: note the difference between "resolution" and "screen size."
for a second there i didnt think u were being serious with that question? lol yes get a nexus 7!
I'd say goto the store and check it out once its released. You have to take into consideration that none of these people actually have the Nexus 7 yet. Save some money on shipping cost and get better return.
I've had the Kindle Fire, HTC Flyer, BB Playbook, HP Touchpad, iPad, and a Transformer. I also use my tablets mainly for web browsing, Reddit, and PDF textbooks. I'm a student so having ebooks is a huge advantage. Here are my thoughts on the screen size differences.
Pdf reading is easier on the 10" screen. No zooming around is needed.
The 7" has a better form factor, meaning you'll be more inclined to pull out your tablet from your bag since its less of a hassle. It is also easier to hold in your hands (can hold 1 handed plus it will be lighter).
I think you would enjoy the Nexus 7 as the Touchpad is very heavy/bulky compared to any of my other tablets. I enjoyed using my Kindle Fire out of all of the tablets besides the Transformer. The transformer was nicer to use for school since I was able to switch between apps quickly since it had ICS compared to CM7 on the KF.
Also, reading pdfs on the 7" screen will trump your S3's 4.8" screen. My Infuse 4.5" has become a nuisance to read pdfs ever since I bought my first tablet (KF).
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Speak for yourself, i have had the nexus 7 since Friday. i can say reading pdf files has been fine and the screen is much bigge than my one X
the applications are awesome. example
Yesterday i was in the pub. decided to go to Calais, used my Nexus tethered to my one x and ordered tunnel tickets there and then, the chrome browser is amazing. I then used offline google maps to get home with the awesom new voice and then played max payne. finally watched all of transformer film, all on one charge.
Fantastic device
I went from a touchpad to a nexus 7 and also have a gs3. Believe me when I say its a huge upgrade in terms of performance and screen touch response is incredible. The size is much more manageable for typing and for book reading etc. I'd take it over the touchpad any day of the week. Also, I'm using the nexus much more than my gs3 when both are next to me, for checking twitter and Facebook and some quick browsing. Dear I say its actually faster than my s3 as sell (quad core variant).
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I've got a TP and have a Nexus7 on order so obviously I'd say yes to the OPs question.
All formats have their advantages and disadvantages, I do a LOT of reading on my TP and there's no denying it gets heavy but the larger screen does make a difference for web browsing. Since I got the TP my old Streak 5 doesn't leave the house and with the N7 coming halfway between the two I'm hoping it's speed will make up for the drop in screen size and of course since it will have a 'proper' version of Android on it it will be a smoother less buggy experience.
The TP will probably go back to pure WebOS if the Open WebOS guys can make headway and it will sit on it's touchstone full time, now there's a good idea for Googles' next Tablet, inductive charging!
To give you a quick reply.....It's what i did =) because this device will generate alot more developer interest than the touchpad means much better quality ROMs too (nothing to do with the devs at the touchpad forum, they did the best with what they had) and they only had 225mb to play with whereas if they increased the partition sizes they could've done alot more with a pretty much open android device. But so far they haven't which is why im here and not there
the downfalls of the touchpad alone....i found the 10" screen size too big for me....plus holding it with one hand made it a chore, otherwise was a good device
I currently have a ipad 3G, ipad 4G , and a blackberry playbook should i go with the nexus 7? Hell freaking yeah!! I love the 7inch form factor and with jelly bean 4core for 200$ that's a steal!!! This tablet is gonna rock! Plus i just brought my gnex back to life with jelly bean ill just tether when im out!
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I think if I were studying textbooks, I'd prefer a 10" screen. Mostly because textbooks have diagrams, charts, etc... and it'd be a pain in the ass to constantly have to enlarge things on a 7" screen. There's a huge difference between ereading a novel and studying a textbook.
Keep the touchpad.
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I guess the answer seems to be to wait until I can play with it in stores
I have an HP TouchPad running tweaked WebOS, and I just ordered a Nexus 7. Best of both!
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Juicy92 said:
I guess the answer seems to be to wait until I can play with it in stores
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Yea wait and check it out if you can, the touchpad is deceptively great, especially once youve overclocked it to 1.7 and got it dual booting CM9,i still love it. I have the Nexus 7 i picked up friday at gamestop, i will snap a picture for you tomorrow, send me a direct email if i forget, i have to say im sure .pdfs are better on the touchpad, at least the screen size part of the argument, theres the obvious resolution side which the nexus 7 wins. Its all up to preference i guess
Yeah, I have a bunch of tablets... I sold them all.. 2 16gb Touchpads both in new condition in the boxes and under warranty, I was able to get $150 each (Bought at firesale, and the shop sells them at $249!), and the old gtab brought an astounding $200. I still kept the ipad2/iphone4/itouches(2,4). The development community for android devices is incredible, having access to the amazon store (free app of the day), and google play is awesome! Plus Quad core, and 12 core GPU is incredible. The hacking of this device is going to be out of this world with its ability. Probably could do folding at home on this dude! Anyway, I will let you know when I get the nexus 7 in, should be any day.
Its all about what you want. I had a 32 gb touchpad running aokp and absolutely loved it. It was fantastic for the price I paid(120 after tax at best buy after some reward zone coupons and the fire sale). I used that thing non stop, then I got my girlfriend a kindle fire. I hated the amazon skin on top of android, but I fell in love with the size. It fit perfectly in my hand. Almost got one of those but then I read about the rumored nexus tablet. Never thought twice about the fire after that. Sold some games and got 110 for my touchpad that had the casing busted by the speaker and went to GameStop. No regrets. Good luck with your decision, honestly you can't go wrong either way if it is what you want
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