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Just wondering, 3 questions.

1) Is it possible to brick while rooting? (my guess is if a file is corrupt or you type something incorrectly it would)
2)Possible while flashing?
3) Has anyone ever bricked their hero?

just use the auto rooter in fresh's kitchen, its basically two clicks and your done, and use the search functionhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606172
and to answer your question ive never seen it done but guess its possible

Haha, no no I already did all this jazz, I was just wondering

1. Not likely
2. Yes, but nandroid backup will save you.
3. Stay in the CDMA section, don't wander through te Hero section, and you should be ok.
Just don't get click happy

the only way that people seem to have bricked their heros is if they try to flash the Radio or a GSM ROM. just be sure that you download your rom from this section of the site, CDMA Hero
In fact, I'd recommend you start with FRESH 1.1, found at www.geekfor.me . it's what I use and it's great.

+1 for Fresh ROM 1.1 Also, flash gbhil's Gumbo Kernel to your phone. You'll notice a disgusting increase in speed (and less lag) from your phone.

ive never seen it done but I guess its possible. always do a nandroid ( saved my ass a few times)

and in theory if you **** up with a nandroid backup then you can even wipe to stock, correct?

I'll get back to you about bricking a Hero after I've finished trying some overclocking options in the kernel

@gbhil,
hahaha.
"OH MY GOD THIS IS LIGHTNING FAST"
"Wait, whats the sizziling sound?"

gbhil said:
I'll get back to you about bricking a Hero after I've finished trying some overclocking options in the kernel
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send me the good stuff I've got the black tie protection plan at best buy... if I do manage to brick most likely sprit will hook me up if not then best buy will

duplicate post, sorry.

1. As long as you study up on how to root the phone you will have no problems. Flip has a kitchen that you can download and it will root your phone automatically and decrease the odds of you messing up the process. Look for it in one of the stickies.
2. Installing ROMS for the CDMA Hero won't brick the phone. Just be sure to download the CDMA only ROMS as people have bricked their phones by downloading the GSM ROMS.
3. There have been a few people who have bricked their phones due to flashing the wrong ROM (GSM). If you download CDMA ROMs you won't have any problem.
Remember to do a Nandroid backup right after rooting your phone so you can always return to state if you have problems down the road, particulary associated with Beta ROMs if you chose to install them.
**Edit** LOL, I started the reply just after the thread started and stopped to make something to eat. Come back to send the reply and find it on page 2. lol

To Root or Not To Root? 2.2 Edition

Okay, I'm really on the fence here. I've got ADB working, I've read the warnings, I've flashed my previous WinMo phones about a hundred times. I am also getting annoyed at the missing market apps and the incredibly awful 3G uplink speed of the 2.2 test build in my area. My phone looks in no way shape or form likely to crap out, needing the warranty. So the round is in the chamber, hammer is cocked, finger is on the trigger.
Only thing holding me back is the idea of the official 2.2 update coming out tomorrow (or really any point in the first half of the week), and having to reverse everything I did (unlocking aside, I get that it's permanent, for now at least). Which all revolves around extra work. I'm not looking to flash other ROM's at the moment, just get access to tweak a few things.
So...3 questions
1) Since I'm just going to root the stock ROM, and edit a few things in build.prop, do I need to disable the online app and info backup? I'm 99% sure I read somewhere that unlocking the bootloader wipes the phone, but that's not a concern as I could just let the thing boot after unlocking it and pull my info from the cloud. This is for AFTER I root (though if you're responding, you probably already know that).
2) Any way to backup a complete system image, so that I can revert to that when the official 2.2 comes out?
3) Which SU/Rooting method do you, the knowledgable and expert [insert additional groveling] reader, suggest for FRF50? I've seen Cyanogen's and the one on Modaco ( http://android.modaco.com/content/g...-erd79-frf50-superboot-rooting-the-nexus-one/ ) I'm guessing this is a "doesn't matter," but I figure why not ask.

Was this the wrong section for this kind of thing?

I'm no expert, just have had my n1 for a couple of weeks but:
1. Can't help you there, no idea, sorry.
2. nandroid backup.
3. I've read a lot about this and I'd go with Cyan's method and amon_ra's recovery. It seems like they do the job well. Plus if you search around, you'll see instructions on going back to stock recovery from amon_ra's, but I'm not sure about the other recovery image (or whether it would be the exact same procedure)

1. I really don't understand the struggle here. Why you would want to disable app backup in the first place? It's not like Google is persecuting people who unlock bootloaders that they might cut you off if they see you're rooted. Just leave it running so you don't have to install everything manually. Unlocking does wipe everything, so it'll be convenient.
2. Well yeah... Make a nandroid the way your phone is now and go back to it whenever you like. And if you like, you can restore just the system.img from fastboot.
3. I prefer the cyan method with .34 kernel. There were some people complaining that Froyo was really slow for them, but I haven't noticed that at all.

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1) Was because of things I've read, that if you do X, you should turn off backup syncing to keep from screwing things up. I certainly have no desire to turn it off. I love it.
2)Thanks.
3) Thanks
EDIT: Done. That was stupid-fast. From installing the fastboot drivers to installing SU was 90 seconds. Add 20 more for AmonRa's recovery.
Titanium backup installed.
build.prop edited to allow protected apps and fixes to the missing ril info.

Glad it turned out okay!

I'm so glad to be rid of Twitter!
Thanks you for your input.

Need Stock Rom

I've been looking, but can't find the stock rom. Can anyone point me in the direction of the stock rom that I can flash from the memory card?

Easiest way to flash back to stock is using a one-click Odin. Here is the topic with instructions and such.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989

mepis said:
I've been looking, but can't find the stock rom. Can anyone point me in the direction of the stock rom that I can flash from the memory card?
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Search,"captivate stock rom" rite there in the search bar at the top. Will take you rite where you need to go. Also this belongs in q&a
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA Premium App

This may work as a last resort. I'm trying to track down stock files to flash from the memory card. I work at an AT&T device support center. Having the stock files to flash would save a world of headache for a multitude of reasons.
I'm trying to avoid having to connect phones to a PC to flash. Doing this would mean I have to bring my laptop with me to work all the time. We don't have admin privileges to install anything at work, and I'm not looking to lose my job bypassing that.
I can also train my staff much easier to use the recovery or boot loader to flash from a memory card. I have them set doing hard resets that way as is. Flashing wouldn't be a far leap.
But yeah, we see plenty of phones that a simple flash would fix, as opposed to giving someone a refurb device. Also, I have to turn away rooted users. I could easily flash the phone before sending it out if I can track down the files for the phones we carry.

brd912 said:
Search,"captivate stock rom" rite there in the search bar at the top. Will take you rite where you need to go. Also this belongs in q&a
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA Premium App
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I appreciate the advice. When I tried searching I wasn't netting results for my specific needs. Just stock rom questions.

If you worked at AT&T and you used any of our software in your work they would fire you!
and train your staff to do so? you are asking for trouble.
and the only way to flash it from the SD card (internal only not external) you have to use a hacked ClockworkMod Recovery or hacked 3e recovery. MORE REASON TO GET FIRED.
Use your approved software only.
Samsungs official tools are ODIN one click for ATT stock eclair and ODIN3 flashing utility, which uses tars. BOTH run from PC only.

Maybe that is just a HTC feature then? I know with the inspire and Aria I can use a stock zip file and reflash the phone from the stock recovery menu. I could have sworn You can use an update.zip to do the same with the captivate as well.
And keeping software off the work PC is my primary goal. We have enough pull with our market manager we can use sd cards to reflash phones. Doing so from a PC is not doable. I'm also only looking for stock roms. Flashing stock roms would be acceptable.
At any rate, I'm not looking for a flame war either. My concern is being able to help the customers first. We subcontract for AT&T. My concern is not AT&T, but the customer themselves. Which is the reason I can bend a few rules here and there for certain things.
For instance I had a customer the other day that bought an inspire from a corp store. The camera app started freezing. The phone was still DOA. The corporate store was out of stock. In this case the customer's official options were to wait via mail, or exchange for a refurb through us. Thankfully I own an inspire and had my laptop with me at work that day (unrelated project). I keep the stock PD98IMG.zip on my laptop as a back up just to be safe. Reflashed his phone with stock image. Issues were resolved for the customer. Everyone was happy.

mepis said:
Maybe that is just a HTC feature then? I know with the inspire and Aria I can use a stock zip file and reflash the phone from the stock recovery menu. I could have sworn You can use an update.zip to do the same with the captivate as well.
And keeping software off the work PC is my primary goal. We have enough pull with our market manager we can use sd cards to reflash phones. Doing so from a PC is not doable. I'm also only looking for stock roms. Flashing stock roms would be acceptable.
At any rate, I'm not looking for a flame war either. My concern is being able to help the customers first. We subcontract for AT&T. My concern is not AT&T, but the customer themselves. Which is the reason I can bend a few rules here and there for certain things.
For instance I had a customer the other day that bought an inspire from a corp store. The camera app started freezing. The phone was still DOA. The corporate store was out of stock. In this case the customer's official options were to wait via mail, or exchange for a refurb through us. Thankfully I own an inspire and had my laptop with me at work that day (unrelated project). I keep the stock PD98IMG.zip on my laptop as a back up just to be safe. Reflashed his phone with stock image. Issues were resolved for the customer. Everyone was happy.
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stock zip files are usually updates , OTA type of thing .. maybe HTC has full wipe version available ...

Have you looked at Heimdall? It's supposed to be a cross platform tool. Google it and see what you get.

yeah i wasnt trying to flame but i was trying to make sure you understood what you were asking...
the only way i could see doing it, to get stock with no PC...
you need eclair with 2e recovery (doesnt need signed update.zip files)
rename any "Stock.zip" to update.zip and copy to sd root
boot into 2e recovery "install update"
if you arent eclair, you must root, fix the recovery with 3e fix in my sig, use hacked 3e to flash....
most stock roms are still UN rooted, so all will be good after flash.. (as far as rooting and 3e)
here is a Jh7 stock
http://www.ponack.net/designgears/JH7_OTA.zip
too bad you arent rogers, i have most of their stocks in zip and odin...

TRusselo said:
yeah i wasnt trying to flame but i was trying to make sure you understood what you were asking...
the only way i could see doing it, to get stock with no PC...
you need eclair with 2e recovery (doesnt need signed update.zip files)
rename any "Stock.zip" to update.zip and copy to sd root
boot into 2e recovery "install update"
if you arent eclair, you must root, fix the recovery with 3e fix in my sig, use hacked 3e to flash....
most stock roms are still UN rooted, so all will be good after flash.. (as far as rooting and 3e)
here is a Jh7 stock
http://www.ponack.net/designgears/JH7_OTA.zip
too bad you arent rogers, i have most of their stocks in zip and odin...
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Hey Tru, talking about that. Do you have a cwm flashabled rogers 2.1 and 2.2 ROM? (that would come with the original kernel and modem)
I don't need it atm but would be a nice backup and I don't really like Odin, for personnal reasons lol

So final answer is, yes or no, not possible to restore to stock (or near stock) with no PC?
Currently running 2.2.1 custom rom and the PC/Captivate no longer talk to each other. (not the cable, the pc, the usb port, rear port, etc...)
EDIT
Well, flashing the above ROM via CWM bricked the phone (more or less). Now only boots to the AT&T splash screen and just sits there.
Which is fine with me, I'm sending it in for repair anyway as the USB to PC doesn't work so good luck trying to recover this POS...5th Captivate for me.

reboot into recovery and clear data and cache.
then it will boot normally

[Q] Avatar rom (CM10.1) for Droid 3 questions

Hello everyone,
Not quite sure where else to put this, but I can't reply in the android dev thread since I am a new member.
I flashed (using SafeStrap 3.05) the newest stable Avatar rom for D3 (using CM 10.1 and android 4.2.2 I think) and it booted ok, mostly everything seemed to work fine (except for camera but that seems to be expected) however I have absolutely no cell service. Not even just data, but the basic cell service for texts and calls isn't on. I tried doing the Verizon activation call, but it would tell me to turn airplane mode off, (which I did, but it either seemed to turn itself back on or not matter if it was on or off anyways).
Has anyone else had this problem and has a work around for it?
Thank you

apefist said:
Hello everyone,
Not quite sure where else to put this, but I can't reply in the android dev thread since I am a new member.
I flashed (using SafeStrap 3.05) the newest stable Avatar rom for D3 (using CM 10.1 and android 4.2.2 I think) and it booted ok, mostly everything seemed to work fine (except for camera but that seems to be expected) however I have absolutely no cell service. Not even just data, but the basic cell service for texts and calls isn't on. I tried doing the Verizon activation call, but it would tell me to turn airplane mode off, (which I did, but it either seemed to turn itself back on or not matter if it was on or off anyways).
Has anyone else had this problem and has a work around for it?
Thank you
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Do you have a sim card in the phone? This was an issue with some Jellybean/ICS roms. It happens to me as well. For some reason when placing a sim card in the phone(it doesn't need to be active) it allows your phone to get reception.

pandam00nium said:
Do you have a sim card in the phone? This was an issue with some Jellybean/ICS roms. It happens to me as well. For some reason when placing a sim card in the phone(it doesn't need to be active) it allows your phone to get reception.
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Hey,
So this actually worked, thanks for the heads up!

step by step
apefist said:
Hello everyone,
Not quite sure where else to put this, but I can't reply in the android dev thread since I am a new member.
I flashed (using SafeStrap 3.05) the newest stable Avatar rom for D3 (using CM 10.1 and android 4.2.2 I think) and it booted ok, mostly everything seemed to work fine (except for camera but that seems to be expected) however I have absolutely no cell service. Not even just data, but the basic cell service for texts and calls isn't on. I tried doing the Verizon activation call, but it would tell me to turn airplane mode off, (which I did, but it either seemed to turn itself back on or not matter if it was on or off anyways).
Has anyone else had this problem and has a work around for it?
Thank you
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Hey, Glad u got your issue resolved..
i am getting my first Android phone (Droid 3 XT862 Gingerbread 2.3 ) and i want to install a custom rom the same way u have..... i was wondering if you or anyone else on the forum could give me step by step guide on how to go about installing the custom rom with the ability to revert back to my original stock OS wen i need to......
i had posted a thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378162 and i got some good advise so far:
you or anyone here could reply with the instructions i need or at least send me a link to a tutorial .... as i said this is my first Android so i really dont want to make any mistakes while doing this..
THANX MUCH !!!!!!!

Tha slayer said:
Hey, Glad u got your issue resolved..
i am getting my first Android phone (Droid 3 XT862 Gingerbread 2.3 ) and i want to install a custom rom the same way u have..... i was wondering if you or anyone else on the forum could give me step by step guide on how to go about installing the custom rom with the ability to revert back to my original stock OS wen i need to......
i had posted a thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378162 and i got some good advise so far:
you or anyone here could reply with the instructions i need or at least send me a link to a tutorial .... as i said this is my first Android so i really dont want to make any mistakes while doing this..
THANX MUCH !!!!!!!
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Hey, so this was my process.
First, I made sure that the stock software on the phone was up to date. I did this since that way if you have to go back to stock, you are on the latest version, and you can confirm that you are using the correct rooting application. The root tool I link to below will work on 5.7.906 which I believe is the latest.
Second, root your phone. You will need to go HERE to download the tool. Follow the instructions on the page, and it should go fine. The phone will reboot several times during the process, this is normal. Once the program says it is done, you can go check for the Superuser application in your app drawer (it might be SuperSU or something similar, I can't quite remember).
After you have root access on your phone download the safestrap application for Droid 3 HERE. Make sure you get the one that is specifically for Droid 3. Transfer that file (should be called Droid3Safestrap-3.05.apk) onto your phone.
There are a few ways to transfer files onto your phone. You will also need to do this later to transfer the .zip of whatever ROM you decide on). If you have a micro-sd card that you can put into your computer, that works. Or, you can have the phone on and plug it into the computer and transfer it that way. I believe you can transfer to either the micro SD or the internal memory. I prefer micro SD since you might want to wipe the internal memory to fix things or switch ROMs.
After the .apk is transferred find where you put it using a file manager (I personally use Root Explorer but I think Astro or stock will work), and install it. Go to the new app and run it and it should request root access, which you grant, and it should flash the recovery.
Once you have the recovery installed you can install whatever custom ROM you want, pretty easily. Safestrap is great because even if you screw up the ROM somehow, you can always just boot back into Stock.
Here is where you'll have to chose what custom ROM you want. Now as far as I know, the Droid 3 is fairly limited in its ROM selection. It does have a Cyanogen Mod 10 version, but it is not a stable version and in my experience, doesn't run super great. If you want to try Cyanogen Mod 10, I actually suggest you get the Avatar Rom variant HERE, but keep in mind that apparently you do need a SIM card inserted for the cell signal to work at all. Overall it did seem to run fairly choppy but they are still releasing newer nightly versions (July 20th was the last) so it might have gotten better. One thing to know about these ones is that the camera does not work at all, so if that matters to you just skip these.
Now those two (CM 10 and avatar) are ROMS that will bring the droid 3 up to Android 4.2 Jellybean. If you don't care about getting up to the latest version (Jellybean actually isn't the latest anymore but still pretty darn close), then there are a few other Gingerbread ROMS out there that work a bit better.
HERE is a list of a few other droid 3 ROMs, my favorite Gingerbread one that worked overall really well and stable was Steel Droid. Otherwise, you can just look around and see what's available or what other people are suggesting. Choose your ROM (or several, it's fairly easy to install them so try a few!), and download it. You should get a .zip that is approx. 150-170 MB in size. As an aside you will probably also want to download the corresponding GApps package HERE and put that on the SD card as well. I think some ROMs have that included, but if you boot into a room and it doesn't have the Play store installed, you need to go back into safestrap and install the GApps package over it. You don't have to delete and recreate the rom slot, just go back into install and install it over. When I say corresponding, the different packages go with different versions of Android so for example the one labelled 20110307 would go with Android 2.3.4 which is Gingerbread, the version that Steel Droid uses.
For whichever one you choose, the install process is mostly the same. Reboot your phone, and after the Motorola Logo comes up, you should see the Safestrap splash screen. To get into the recovery menu you have to hit the "Menu" soft-key (the one all the way on the left) within 10 seconds so keep an eye on it.
From the recovery menu go into "Boot Options" You should see 5 options, rom-slot 1-4 and Stock. When you want to switch what ROM you are booting you select on the corresponding slot, and hit activate, then you can reboot through the menu option and it will start that ROM.
To install you will go into "Boot Options" chose whichever rom slot you want (most likely #1). You will have to create that slot, which can take a few minutes. After the slot is created, back out of boot options, and go to "Install". Find the .zip of whichever ROM you chose, and select that to install, and then you can install the corresponding GApps package.
After the install is complete, you can reboot (make sure it says rom slot 1 is selected up to), and it should boot into the Setup process of the ROM. If you ever need to go back to stock, just reboot, go back into Safestrap > Boot options, activate the "Stock" one and boot into that.
A few notes, if you want to switch ROMs, or install multiple ROMs you can do that using the different rom slots with a few exceptions. The Cyanogen Mod 10 and the Avatar Rom (most Jelly bean ones I think) have to be installed in rom slot 1, so if you're doing those and another like Steel Droid, put the Jellybean one in rom slot 1 and the Gingerbread on in rom slot 2. Also if you want to install a different ROM, it's generally best to just completely erase the rom slot and recreate it, then install the different ROM in the newly created rom slot. You can always create backups with Safestrap and restore them with Safestrap. Oh and make sure your phone has a decent charge before doing a lot of the safestrap stuff (I would say at least 60%) you can also have the phone plugged in while doing this stuff, but I'm not always confident it is charging so try and get it charged up before hand.
Finally, if you ever mess up to the point where you're worried that you broke the phone, (boot loops or it is stuck on the Motorola Logo) you can download this restore tool HERE. This should completely wipe and restore the stock software on your phone. It will bring it back one version previous though, so be sure to go through the standard update process to bring it back to 5.7.906 so that the root tool will work. This tool has saved me a few times and is pretty easy to run.
Sorry, I know that is a lot of stuff and looks pretty scary. It really is just a few steps that you should research and make sure you are comfortable doing.
1: Get Root access on the stock software on the phone
2: Install safestrap and flash the custom recovery
3: Boot into recovery and install whichever custom ROM you want
If you have any questions feel free to ask!

Much appreciated !!! ..... i will try these steps as soon as i get my phone..... hope it doesnt make a difference if my D3 is an unlocked GSM phone because all service providers in my country uses GSM

Tha slayer said:
Much appreciated !!! ..... i will try these steps as soon as i get my phone..... hope it doesnt make a difference if my D3 is an unlocked GSM phone because all service providers in my country uses GSM
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if you are using gms you may need Rom version with a modified build prop, most of the roms threads will have a modified version for GMS, in the OP or somewhere in the thread. if you can't find it just ask in the original rom thread
also some good how to videos here https://sites.google.com/site/tomsgt123/all-videos/videos-page-4

Is there a Kitkat factory image for this POS AT&T Note 3

After towelrooting and adding safestrap, I found that Sammy's TW os is cemented into any of the roms I may want to use. So, I am returning my rooted phone to ATT and getting my money back. Getting a Nexus 5.
I need to factory image this *****. Is there a factory Kitkat image available that I can use with Odin?
Any chance of it not being detected?
Thanks for the help.:good:

The image for KK for the Note 3 has been posted here. It's rooted, so you'll have to unroot (remove busybox first) after you install it. Oh - uninstall Safestrap first. (You'll have to read threads to find the 4.4.2 file - I don't keep links to threads I don't need, but try the Odexed version at this thread. Aside from being rooted, it should look exactly like stock. You can't back up an image of the ROM without being rooted, so any image you find will be a rooted one. But SuperSU will remove most signs of root. [If Samsung wants to investigate every byte of internal memory, they might be able to detect that you once did something. But if your luck is that bad never get out of bed. The stores will turn the phone on, look around a bit and accept it as stock, even if you've put your name and email address in it, although you SHOULD do a factory reset before returning any phone.
As far as your original post, yes, you'll find the original ROM in the stock slot in Safestrap after you install it. That doesn't mean that you can't successfully run some ROMs in other slots (no guaranties yet, Hashcode is still working on the problem) or you can back up the stock slot, wipe it, install any ROM there that you like (the "plain vanilla" method of using Safestrap in Kit Kat right now).
If you can't wipe the stock slot, uninstall Safestrap, reboot to recovery, do a factory wipe, reboot normally and reinstall Safestrap. (Make sure you're using 3.75, or even 3.72. 3.71 is for 4.3, and it won't work on Kit Kat.)
The Nexus is a nice phone, but Safestrap has saved me from a few stupid blunders that normally would have required that I buy a new phone. (Try flashing a keyboard in recovery. Then boot. If you boot to the slot you flashed the keyboard in you have a pretty good soft brick. With Safestrap, just reboot into Safestrap and reflash a real ROM. Total panic - 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back, instead of $700, due to my own inattention.) I actually don't want a phone without Safetstrap or something equivalent any more. It's like a desktop you can't install an OS to that comes with multi-boot. If you screw one up, just boot into another one. Even if you only ever run one ROM, it's worth it for the safety alone.

Thread Cleaned. The childish trolling has gone far enough. An honest question was asked, honest answers should be given. Any further trolling will be met with moderator actions.

Thank you for the updates. This will be great. Just need to sit down and make sure it's done right. I appreciate the cleanup and trolling wasnt my intention.

I'm beginning to understand how good safestrap is for me. I did a little checking on how to use it further and yes, it is a good safeguard against blunders.
I'm thinking if I can get a working rom that I like that isnt so touchwiz based but still gives me good s-pen functionality, maybe the phone is worth keeping. I just hate samsung and how they've really f-ed up the os in general, not to mention the amount of crapware that comes with it.

cwis said:
I'm beginning to understand how good safestrap is for me. I did a little checking on how to use it further and yes, it is a good safeguard against blunders.
I'm thinking if I can get a working rom that I like that isnt so touchwiz based but still gives me good s-pen functionality, maybe the phone is worth keeping. I just hate samsung and how they've really f-ed up the os in general, not to mention the amount of crapware that comes with it.
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Don't blame Samsung for the bloat. Blame at&t! You can also blame at&t for locking the bootloader and not allowing us to have an factory image restore. Praise to the almighty safestrap!
Finding a non touchwiz rom with good s-pen integration is going to be hard. You can blame Samsung for that!

Digital Kat Extreme is good but the s-pen sucks. I may try this one instead: http://galaxynote3root.com/att-gala...r-att-galaxy-note-3-download-booster-working/

Tested the S5 rom works beautifully.
Tested the Note 3 rooted rom works slow, but so did the factory image. WTF???

cwis said:
Tested the S5 rom works beautifully.
Tested the Note 3 rooted rom works slow, but so did the factory image. WTF???
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So is it fast with S5 ROM? I agree with you that our AT&T Note3 is POS.
I tried many different ROMs. After installing everything I normally use, it's always a dog. Taking 1 second to turn on the screen from sleep should not happen on a Snapdragon 800. I tried removing xposed mod, it becomes bit faster but still found it lagging a little time by time.
I'm going to try the S5 ROM now that you suggest it.
edit: S5 ROM is really fast! I hate touchwiz to death, but this one is fast for real. Instant on from standby. I might actually stick with touchwiz on this instead of Nova Launcher.
edit2: Because the bootloader is locked, there is a bug where the phone never goes into deep sleep mode. I don't really mind because the battery still lasts 24 hours with 1:30 screen-on time. No lag turning on the screen is the thing I really like. I did experience another bug where the screen won't turn on for more than 30 seconds, and I had to force reboot.