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[TUT] Ubuntu on Adam Methods - 03/12/11

PLEASE READ FIRST
This post will have info on the chroot method. To find out info on running Ubuntu natively on the Adam, click this link for post #2 below. Enjoy
chroot Method:
chroot Ubuntu on Adam Beta1...
For now project files for chroot method will be located at this Google Code Project site. Files will be posted shortly, stay tuned.
DO NOT attempt this yet until specified as alpha or beta or otherwise stated as ready for testing!!
Liability:
I'm not responsible for what you do with your device, this is a guide or tutorial for general purposes only.
If you do not have a strong understanding of rooting and how to recover a device from scratch DO NOT attempt this until we are our of beta stages. Wait till you see RC status at least.
Verified working with bugs
Directions:
I'm not sure what file format is needed on the SD card, so make sure it has the stock file format from Android.
Make sure you are rooted using the methods listed here or Notion Ink Hacks Forum.
Download necessary files:
- Main scripts: Download from Google Code Project webpage. http://code.google.com/p/chroot-ubuntu-ni-adam-tablet/
- Ubuntu.img file: Download from MegaUpload. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3ZQTCUUN
Create a folder on root of your Adam SD card called "ubuntu" and download the files from the Google Code Project site to this folder.
Unzip "ubuntu.img.zip" package and copy or move "ubuntu.img" file to the ubuntu folder you created above. Delete all the rest of the files. Do this to make sure you do not confuse the scripts I've put together for the Adam.
Plug Adam into your computer and make sure you have a connection to it.
Android SDK installed on a local computer with ADB functioning.
Make sure you do not have the SD card mounted on your computer. Also make sure USB Debugging is turned on, which I think you need for ADB.
Change the name of "bootubuntu[x].[x]" to just "bootubuntu"! DO NOT use the original "bootubuntu" file.
If you haven't already open a command prompt and type:
Code:
adb shell
Enter superuser mode:
Code:
su
Change directory to the "ubuntu" folder:
Code:
cd /sdcard/ubuntu
Run the setup script (You should only have to run this once or whenever new updates to the files are released):
Code:
sh ./ubuntu.sh
Once the script finished you should be good to go, type the following to run Ubuntu:
Code:
bootubuntu
If you see something like the following below, job well done!
Code:
[email protected]:/#
Troubleshooting:
If you get any errors, please FIRST, try rebooting Adam and start back at "adb shell" step 7 and try again.
More to come
If you get any errors, please post at what step number you got an error and post as much detailed info as you can about the error. Myself and others will do what we can to help.
Resources:
http://nexusonehacks.net/nexus-one-hacks/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-your-nexus-oneandroid/
http://tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/workaround-run-ubuntu-now

Native Ubuntu Method:
More to come, holding this place for future use...

No problem for testing it ... but not before the end of next week
My Adam will be send on 31st of January

There is nothing to test yet. Not until more research is done and files gathered. Not to mention we still need full root and unlock first.
Do not attempt to run the files in that link.
Sent from my Evo

For Rooting Adam it seems that it's done ?
And Don't worry i will not try to use fill that wasn't for Adam.
If you need help ... to search, test ... I will be part of ;o)

Thanks Gkar! Just be sure to follow this thread as any updates will appear here.
Also, root methods have been started but there are bugs. We need Adam users to help with that process first before helping here. Once that process works consistently I plan to get started on this.
Sent from my Evo

Pfffff ... I've just seen on pre-order page that my date has been pulled to 14th feb 2011 and then i will have to wait to test !!

Ubuntu netbook edition
Btw, I am sure you have seen this, but Ubuntu does have a Netbook Edition. It brings all the advantages of Ubuntu to a netbook – using Unity, an innovative user interface super-optimised for smaller screens and also convenient for touch screens.
So, this may be the best version to port to Adam if we can get it going. I unfortunately have no development knowledge to know if it is possible.

Mmmmmh .... i'm using Netbook edition on EEE 901 for my kids but unity isn't mature.
I prefer old version of Netbook edition (10.04 LTS) ... and that's the version used to create Ubuntu Distro for HD2.
Maybe we can ask them for some help.

I'm interested on this too. For the record, I'm keen to get an Adam and wipe Eden, replacing it with Ubuntu. I think Ubuntu 11.04 will be an awesome distro to run on a tablet, and currently Notion Ink's Adam is the only one being made that meets the stats I'd like to see.
The current hacks that exist to get Ubuntu running on the Nexus One (have done that) require running a modified server version from the sdcard, the using VNC to run a virtual session. Has it's plusses (running within Android, for instance), but I'm keen to see Ubuntu running natively. Android isn't mature enough to be a main system yet, whilst Ubuntu is. Cheers.

hope a port is cooming soon

Yeah, I'm very eager to try this too

Maybe a dual boot with Android ?
Looking forward to it

Thanks for your patience everyone. I've been swamped. This weekend I plan to hunt down some files, look at the scripts, and hopefully we can start trying this shortly!

This is one of the main reasons I have been waiting for the Adam for so long. Hopefully we can dual boot Ubuntu as that is what I would prefer, but if not, oh well. I want to have a tablet that acts more like a computer then a glorified smartphone without phone capabilities... Can't wait to see the development of this!

TreTuna said:
This is one of the main reasons I have been waiting for the Adam for so long. Hopefully we can dual boot Ubuntu as that is what I would prefer, but if not, oh well. I want to have a tablet that acts more like a computer then a glorified smartphone without phone capabilities... Can't wait to see the development of this!
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Dual booting is always preferred yes, but that is not what my method will do. This method will be a bootloader running on top of Android. For many reasons this will be easiest for now.

I'm very excited about this, can't wait to have my Adam and following the developent of ubuntu.
I really think, on another hand, that Android and Ubuntu are majors players in the open-source OS and should therefore communicate better.
I want Adam to be the best friend of my Ubuntu desktop. There are so many possible ways to make these OS interact, at least the way iOS talk to Mac OS X.
i can't wait for my Adam to be here to write apps in this direction!

I love that idea as well. Would be cool if there was a way to integrate Ubuntu netbook edition and Android.
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Ubuntu netbook edition and the desktop version are now the same thing with the upcoming release. Actually, the whole UI of Ubuntu is getting a major overhaul to be touch centric. Currently, my nexus one running cyanogenmod DOES talk to my Ubuntu netbook. And server. Very well in fact. Tomdroid for notes reads all off my desktop tomboy notes, and Funambol, with syncevolution syncs my calendar and address book.
Have just ordered an Adam with a friend, and plan to hack it extensively until Ubuntu is running in full, natively, as it's primary operating system. Android is useful, but doesn't have the functionality of Ubuntu. Would be useful having android as a secondary system, or within Ubuntu, but I won't hold my breathe.
I agree though, the first step seems to be getting Ubuntu running within android. I'm starting to research how the bootloader needs to be hacked to recognise a usb or dvd drive to boot from, and how it would "see" ubuntu installed on one of the internal drives. Will post back with more info soon, even though this is further down the track.

tillum said:
Ubuntu netbook edition and the desktop version are now the same thing with the upcoming release. Actually, the whole UI of Ubuntu is getting a major overhaul to be touch centric. Currently, my nexus one running cyanogenmod DOES talk to my Ubuntu netbook. And server. Very well in fact. Tomdroid for notes reads all off my desktop tomboy notes, and Funambol, with syncevolution syncs my calendar and address book.
Have just ordered an Adam with a friend, and plan to hack it extensively until Ubuntu is running in full, natively, as it's primary operating system. Android is useful, but doesn't have the functionality of Ubuntu. Would be useful having android as a secondary system, or within Ubuntu, but I won't hold my breathe.
I agree though, the first step seems to be getting Ubuntu running within android. I'm starting to research how the bootloader needs to be hacked to recognise a usb or dvd drive to boot from, and how it would "see" ubuntu installed on one of the internal drives. Will post back with more info soon, even though this is further down the track.
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I ordered my Adam Once I saw it figure in XDA forum. My experience with XDA especially with SGS phone has been immensely satisfying. The way Things are going I am sure Adam will be an object of envy before long.

Double Rooting - Webtop and the Atrix

From a development and user standpoint I am of course interested acquiring root for the android side of things but my main interest and focus on gaining the ability to modify and enhance the webtop image that provides the "full feature" capability for Firefox. So in a sense there is a goal for Double Root on Atrix. Rooting first the android side and then rooting the webtop Linux instance.
I am guessing from the looks of it that webtop is based on Ubuntu Light. It is also likely run in a VM otherwise the phone instance of android (Dalvik) and the Webtop could not run simultaneously. Given that the platform is probably something to the effect of:
Linux File System -----> Dalvik VM ------> Android Runtime
Linux File System -----> Some other VM? -------> Ubuntu Light
I am running under some assumptions (not having an Atrix till next week ):
* The "Some other VM" is not Dalvik since I don't think as an App VM.
So some of the questions I seek to answer right away are:
What VM is running (presumed) Ubuntu light
Does that VM have security around the disk image (singed)
Is the (Webtop disk image) encrypted/signed
What is needed to get root access on the Webtop side.
The best way to get root on the Webtop side is to go after the file system. I am guessing that will be signed but it MUST be writable at some level to save state.
Just a bunch of musings. I am looking forward to getting my atrix so I can start answering some questions.

I think getting root to one or the other will make it VERY easy to root ther other.
I for one hope it is ubuntu lite, or something debian based. Hopefully make it really easy to port over a full distro.

being able to boot into a full linux distro would be the cats meow!
i have full expectations of being able to do this within a month or two ;-)

Do you guys think it would be possible in the coming weeks/months to be able to boot into a full linux distro on the Atrix itself - without the laptop dock?? that would be ultimate awesomeness right there!

jgc121 said:
Do you guys think it would be possible in the coming weeks/months to be able to boot into a full linux distro on the Atrix itself - without the laptop dock?? that would be ultimate awesomeness right there!
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well the nexus one and nexus s and dell streak and motorola Droid (OG) could run ubuntu so I hope the atrix will.

emoose said:
Linux File System -----> Dalvik VM ------> Android Runtime
Linux File System -----> Some other VM? -------> Ubuntu Light
I am running under some assumptions (not having an Atrix till next week ):
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It's also possible that they have a Linux variant running on bare-metal, without a VM. I have seen some architectures in the embedded world that allow each CPU core to work together as a typical dual-core system, OR to boot a different OS kernel on each core.
The latter case would be the most interesting in terms of getting the most out of Linux on the Atrix, assuming the second OS can be rooted. This could (speaking with almost no knowledge of Android itself), also be another angle of attack/defeat though if that means the webtop linux kernel also needs to be signed...
Then again, a VM does make more sense in terms of the near-instant boot time of the WebTop mode.

I can't wait to see the "double root... oh my god... what does it mean???" Youtube video come out in a few weeks =)

If I can get a command prompt and root access on the Webtop instance I will sound just like the Double rainbow guy.
Things I believe to be true right now.
WebtopSession app initiates then session when you plug in HDMI. This is no different than any other peripheral launch.
WebtopSession app (speculating based on other posts) checks you connection type and provisioning. If you don't have a tethering plan it doesn't allow you ton continue. If you are on wifi it allows you to continue.
If you start off on WiFi and then change network state to mobile radio (and no tethering plan) will it discontinue the session?
The WebtopSession App doesn't look like it does anything other than manage the initiation of the Linux (Webtop) session.
There is nothing in the dumps that looks like it could remotely be a disk file which makes me think that there is a partition that is different that the normal android partitions. I would love to see a partition map of a rooted phone.

jgc121 said:
Do you guys think it would be possible in the coming weeks/months to be able to boot into a full linux distro on the Atrix itself - without the laptop dock?? that would be ultimate awesomeness right there!
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im also wondering this!

edit: Erm. Whoops. A little bit of research and it turns out Motorola has left the code in for when they test the OS in "goldfish-qemu", an Android emulator. Sorry ><
It's got to be QEMU. In the retail firmware dump in /etc/init.goldfish.sh:
Code:
# call 'qemu-props' to set system properties from the emulator.
#
/system/bin/qemu-props
So what I'm thinking after parsing the information I've got...
... WEBTOP is simply a QEMU (ARM version?) instance running off of some unknown image/partition on flash that outputs to HDMI with some hackery to support local media [mounted in the host OS, Android] and local control and USB keyboard/mouse input, along with special extensions to allow for use of the Android/host OS instance within the VM.

labsONE said:
edit: Erm. Whoops. A little bit of research and it turns out Motorola has left the code in for when they test the OS in "goldfish-qemu", an Android emulator. Sorry ><
It's got to be QEMU. In the retail firmware dump in /etc/init.goldfish.sh:
Code:
# call 'qemu-props' to set system properties from the emulator.
#
/system/bin/qemu-props
So what I'm thinking after parsing the information I've got...
... WEBTOP is simply a QEMU (ARM version?) instance running off of some unknown image/partition on flash that outputs to HDMI with some hackery to support local media [mounted in the host OS, Android] and local control and USB keyboard/mouse input, along with special extensions to allow for use of the Android/host OS instance within the VM.
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So then you are saying it could be possible to do something like this:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo

jgc121 said:
Do you guys think it would be possible in the coming weeks/months to be able to boot into a full linux distro on the Atrix itself - without the laptop dock?? that would be ultimate awesomeness right there!
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Running the webtop or a full distro without any docks will be just plain awesome...

emoose said:
If I can get a command prompt and root access on the Webtop instance I will sound just like the Double rainbow guy.
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Oh maaan. Double root all the way What does it mean???
In all seriousness, the Atrix is certainly the most interesting phone from a developers standpoint, but I'm sitting and watching for a bit as I want to see how much of a problem the signed bootloader becomes first.

So does the Signed Bootloader rule out the Double root ? or changes to the Webtop APP/Module ?

hrishi2das said:
So does the Signed Bootloader rule out the Double root ? or changes to the Webtop APP/Module ?
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It depends. Signed bootloader refers to the fact that the phone boots only if certain partitions match the Moto signatures.
The question is, where does the Webtop mode boot from, and is any part of *that* boot process signed?

I don't know why you guys think it has to be running in a VM. It's more likely they have just install Xorg and Firefox on Android and run them, with X displaying on the HDMI.
Exactly the same as the ubuntu-on-android hacks, but instead of using VNC to view X, you just display it on HDMI.
The phone view is an X11 app which communicates with the Android system server to mirror the display.
I seriously doubt they are using QEMU or anything like that.

Bah! Edited post since my last one was way off.
Did some looking and it looks like qemu in this instance is related to running some proc emulator for android development sdk support.
There this is a bunch of stuff out if you google: android goldfish
Its related to ARM targets for the sdk and in this instance probably not webtop.
I'd still really like to see the output of:
adb shell
cat /proc/mtd

Timmmmmm said:
I don't know why you guys think it has to be running in a VM. It's more likely they have just install Xorg and Firefox on Android and run them, with X displaying on the HDMI.
Exactly the same as the ubuntu-on-android hacks, but instead of using VNC to view X, you just display it on HDMI.
The phone view is an X11 app which communicates with the Android system server to mirror the display.
I seriously doubt they are using QEMU or anything like that.
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Agree. But from the DG's / dump could not find more interesting info except the WebtopSession.apk. I guess webtop stuff live in another patition which is actived when webtop session starting.
Could anyone who has a rooted Atrix dump the phone while webtop on?

sexydroid said:
Agree. But from the DG's / dump could not find more interesting info except the WebtopSession.apk. I guess webtop stuff live in another patition which is actived when webtop session starting.
Could anyone who has a rooted Atrix dump the phone while webtop on?
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I don't have the webtop device. What about while the phone is plugged into the TV? If it'd help any just give me the steps and I'll do it.

Yes if you plug your phone into the tv it will be able to access webtop.

Linux, Ubuntu ports etc for gt540

NEW START POST
This page will be for the topic of linux on the gt540 all distros that will support arm-v6 arm-v7 and armel as these will all work with the exemption of arm-v7 which will of course run with some lag.
So far we have ubuntu and debian running but want more variety is best.
Any helps with scripts speed improvements sharing set ups etc is highly appreciated this thread will be open and transperant in its knowledge.
As with the rest of xda i would like for this to be all about joining together to make something great
VERY SLIM DOWN EASY TUTORIAL TO GET YOU GOING
1. First up your on xda so please for the love of god tell me your device is already rooted and you have busybox??? if not very easy download z4root do a permanent root or temporary if your scared of warranty etc second download busybox installer from the android market and install. Mur4iks rom is most popular and supports loop devices not sure about other roms also have debugging turned on you need that for adb.
2. Make sure you have the android sdk windows drivers etc etc or if in ubuntu or linux make sure you have this file setup
/etc/udev/rules.d/99.android.rules
SUBSYSTEM=="usb",ATTRS{idVendor}=="1004",ATTRS{idProduct}=="61b4",MODE="0666"
3. Make sure adb recognizes your phone run
In windows adb devices
linux (sudo) ./adb devices (ubuntu can be fussy)
Any problems at this point consult the almighty google or android development page that has all information for trouble shooting adb and your device
4. Ok so here is where the phone begins and all the code and missing steps and going back etc etc
At this point a strongly suggest a coffee a cup of tea some music or a smoke if you do
5. Now we must download a version of linux that is compatible with our phone as mentioned above armel arm-v6 are preferred
Theres three ways we can do this
1. We can go to androlinux.com if we wish to have a easy to set up ubuntu system
2. We can download linux installer from adroid market and choose an appropriate distro
3. For the more tech savvy download direct and set up the whole base system to custom sizes run custom scripts on boot etc etc if a few people did this it
would however be great as we could have a multitude of gt540 linux flavours
6. There are alot of VNC Viewers out there im not gonna say what ones best as everyones opinion is different on this put simply type vnc in the market have a read look at some screenies and choose one thats right for you as we will need it later. Has to support tightvnc though.
7. The file we downloaded we have to move this unziped to the root of the sd card.
8. If using linux installer from market simply start installing we will catch up with you later on the vnc set up gui etc
9. Ok the file is happily in the sd card root (Yay) Now you need to open a terminal or command thingy in windows cmd.exe everyone sets up the sdk differently so pretty much in ubuntu or linux you need your file path then /platform-tools in windows the same cd into that file
10. Now we are inside that directory test adb so Ubuntu--- "sudo ./adb devices" Windows ---"adb devices"
It should come up with devices attatched 6437946238946 type thing congrats your sweet to go
11. Start adb shell Ubuntu---"sudo ./adb shell" Windows---"adb shell"
12. #su
13. #ls
14. #cd sdcard
15. #ls
16. At this point you should be able to see the name of the distro say ubuntu sooooo
17. #cd ubuntu
18. #sh ubuntu.sh
19.Warnings code blah blah blah
20. #bootubuntu
21. PEOPLE USING LINUX INSTALLER COME BACK
22. You will have something like this #linuxboot
23. If you now get [email protected]:/# or Linux-ARMEL:/# or similar yay we are now running a distro parallel to android in chroot which is awesome!!!!!
At this point feel proud because regardless to gui etc you have linux.
Worst comes to worst recompile kernel again with loop support for the people doing customs and check your code.
24. This is quite possibly the worst part and most time consuming #apt-get update that will take for ever
25. Once that finishes #apt-get install openssh-server once thats done type #passwd and set your passwords etc
26. And then #apt-get install tightvncserver
This will require xxx space and needs to do blah blah blah when given the option Y/n choose Y for all of these
27. Ok in ubuntu if it goes phyco #export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 that will get rid of germain and bring english back debian etc dont worry only seems to be ubuntu
28. LG GT540 came out 600mhz so on any system we want lxde or similar so #apt-get install lxde
29. Now personally i dont run lxde on startup because i like to tinker and i dont mind writting the code in terminal after i boot the system takes all of what five seconds but if you want it to run on start up
cat > /root/.vnc/xstartup
#!/bin/sh
xrdb $HOME/.Xresources
xsetroot -solid grey
icewm &
lxsession
Then hit Ctrl+D twice and enter to save the file.
30. Now for me after boot i do this
#export USER=root
#vncserver -geometry 1024x800
If your using above you only do this once for me i do it everytime
31. Run #ifconfig to get your ip addy etc
32. This is something i do just to make sure #swapon -s
33. Now the tightvnc server is ready to connect to your phone or computer. Just point to the IP address and use port number 5901 to connect.
THAT SHOULD BE IT ALL SET AND READY TO GO OF COURSE YOU CAN ADJUST HOW YOU LIKE AND DO AS YOU WISH
MANY THANKS TO ANDROLINUX.COM LINUX INSTALLER FROM ANDROID MARKET AND GOOGLE FOR MANY WEB PAGES I VIEWED
IF I USED ANYTHING YOU PIONEERED ITS ONLY SO I CAN SHARE WITH OTHERS AND TAKE THIS TO THE NEXT LEVEL
HAPPY MODDING TO ALL AND I HOPE WE CAN ALL WORK ON THIS AND HELP OUT.

how would you do it?

Ubuntu jaunty supports ARM-V6 Architecture
And all the smaller Linux systems supported Pentium 2 processors slash hardware
Pentium 2 processors started at around 300mhz with smaller caches and buses then our device
Android is based on Linux our cyanogen mod system is based on 2.6.29
So in essence we should be able to port several Ubuntu / Linux flavors to our device and run them through a virtual machine off the SD card using loop device and swap or as a dual boot by flashing the Ubuntu / Linux system to what we know at the moment as the recovery partition
any help we can get to do this is needed anyone and everyone
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Ubuntu 8.04 'Hardy heron' is compatible to
Anyone???
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Danzano said:
Ubuntu 8.04 'Hardy heron' is compatible to
Anyone???
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Once i get v2.1 working proberly and uploaded i might look into this
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Sweet
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Biggest problem ATM is the arm 6 architecture I've downloaded natty and set up my build environment so starting to work on things now properly but regardless I know this project will take time and be frustrating
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why don't try debian?

I'm currently using rc1 eyecandy because I have a fetish for nice GUI s
I like what I've heard about debian but looking at screenies it just didn't look like my thing lol tbh it looked like a hollowed out version of Ubuntu
What's the benefits of debian if I did switch?
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already available to download for armel -> so i think it would be easier 4 you to port (i think there are no/not so big differences between armel & armv6).
btw debian is the father of ubuntu and their repositories/paths/commands are compatible.

smg72523889 said:
already available to download for armel -> so i think it would be easier 4 you to port (i think there are no/not so big differences between armel & armv6).
btw debian is the father of ubuntu and their repositories/paths/commands are compatible.
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Repos are not compatible.

Ill look into armel tonight see what I gotta do
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Check this!
I got ubuntu with LXDE running. Gnome does work but takes too much memory and long time to load. LXDE is Light fast and Quicker at loading. Here is my video. But it is chrooted (running alongside android and off the sdcard)
Here is the Link
LG GT540 Running Ubuntu

That's why I'm working on x11 etc to see if the GUI. Could be full size yet fast and lighter on hardware less mem 2d no hardware acceleration etc
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Debian lenny armel working great its stable and useable with lxde still working on it but its the most promising so far
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hey guys this is debian lenny will post pics of ubuntu running same gui later
So far ubuntu seems slower than debian but im trying to get ubuntu to be abit quicker
also im going to start experimenting with triple boot as in adroid then debian lenny on recovery partition and ubuntu through chroot anyone that has any advice would be good also anyways to re compile these so they run quicker would be good to is there anyway to compress etc
oh also wifi etc etc is all working reads system etc etc so is good to use not some pointless project

my vnc server refuse to connect, can anyone help me??
now it's working but, it's all grey in 24bit color.
what is you color mode and resulotion

Danzano said:
hey guys this is debian lenny will post pics of ubuntu running same gui later
So far ubuntu seems slower than debian but im trying to get ubuntu to be abit quicker
also im going to start experimenting with triple boot as in adroid then debian lenny on recovery partition and ubuntu through chroot anyone that has any advice would be good also anyways to re compile these so they run quicker would be good to is there anyway to compress etc
oh also wifi etc etc is all working reads system etc etc so is good to use not some pointless project
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maybe you could add a guide to the start post on how others can do this

Star post tut would b great nice job!
MY ANDROIDSKY

afpereira said:
my vnc server refuse to connect, can anyone help me??
now it's working but, it's all grey in 24bit color.
what is you color mode and resulotion
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My vncserver is 24bit colour
Vncserver geometry is 1024x840
Dont know why but that resolution was best for me also if that doesnt work try 1024x800 or 860x480 etc youll find one best for you
Ill post a easy tutorial in start post today so everyone can have
Also im trying to place a linux boot.img on recovery partition but our phones mem wont hold system or data etc would it be possible to create a script where on boot it reads the sd same as hdd for pc ??
If this is possible we can have tri boot if we wanted or atleast dual
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[GUIDE] How to get Ubuntu on the TouchPad

First off this is completely from Rennat over at PreCentral
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TUTORIAL: How to get the UbuntuChroot up and running for your HP TouchPad
Intro:
UbuntuChroot is the raw Ubuntu terminal without the familiar GNOME graphical interface that all have come to think of Ubuntu. With this installed, you will be able to install ubuntu programs and launch them with in the terminal card.
To do this, the basic rundown will be making a new WebOS Doctor that has a separete partition of memory for Ubuntu to run with in. Then we will install it on your TouchPad and mount that partition so it will be able to be used after a reboot of the device. Lastly, we will install Xecutah, XServer, and UbuntuChroot from Preware and boot up Ubuntu on your TouchPad.
Both credit and Props go to WebOS Internals for making this possible and putting in all the hard work they have to make it as easy as it is.
Warnings:
I nor WebOS Internals take no responsibility over what may happen to your device. If you follow these instructions it 'should' work perfectly. If you do endup messing something up you 'should' be able to just doctor the device using the stock WebOS Doctor from HP.
Step Zero:
- I have provided 2 different ways to set your device up to install the UbuntuChroot onto your device; use the meta-doctor and create your own doctor (Step 1-A) or do as Step 1-B says and contact my army of monkeys for an easier alternitive that won't take forever.
##You my want to backup app data and the like using Save/Restore in Preware as you will lose all your data buy installing a WebOS Doctor. Please do so! And done hesitate to ask questions.
Step 1-A: Creating a WebOS Doctor
- We will be using the Meta Doctor to create a special WebOS Doctor that will create a 2GB (or more if you wish to do so) partition in /media/ext3fs/ were Ubuntu will be.
- Use the WebOS Internals Guide to installing and running the Meta Doctor. In Step 2 you will have to rename you downloaded webOS doctor to the name of the Bell Mobility doctor they have under Step 2'3 (webosdoctorp100ewwbellmo.jar) go ahead and add the webOS version after it like it advises.
- In Step 2'6, if you are using a Wifi Only TouchPad you will be using the last one which has touchpad for device and WiFi all for the carrier.
- Once the Meta Doctor is done, run the Web's Doctor it created under the 'builds' folder. And setup your device.
Step 1-B: Contacting My Army of Monkeys
- If you are having trouble with or are intimidated by Step 1-A go ahead and contact my army of monkeys at [email protected]. Simple.
Step 2: Mounting the new ext3fc partition on bootup
- Now before we continue we have to make sure we have the partition fully setup and mounted on bootup. To do this follow the below WebOS Internals instructions.
All of this is done on device either via novaterm or an SSH login. (simpler terms mean use WebOS Quick install by connecting you device, opening WebOSQuickInstall, and click Tools-Command Line.) If your device does NOT have a folder at /media/ext3fs then you will need to create it first. Use the following two commands:
Code:
mount -o remount,rw /
mkdir -p /media/ext3fs
it is important that you use /media/ext3fs as the location, otherwise some homebrew applications (such as Optware and the Ubuntu 11.04 Chroot) will not be able to find it and use it properly.
After you have created the mountpoint, we are going to edit the fstab file to set it up to mount at bootup.
Code:
mount -o remount,rw /
echo "/dev/mapper/store-ext3fs /media/ext3fs ext3 noatime,data=writeback 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
Now to get it mounted you have several options, the best one is the first command as it will use the data in /etc/fstab. If that works, then you have done this correctly and your ext3fs will mount at bootup.
Code:
mount -a
If you do not want it mounted at bootup, but you do need it mounted, you can use this command.
Code:
mount /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs /media/ext3fs
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Step 3: Adding Testing Feeds
- Follow these WebOS Internals Instructions to add the Testing Feeds.
NOTE: These are edited slightly and will only work on a Wifi only TouchPad.
- Open Preware and wait for it to finish loading.
- Open the App Menu (tap "Preware" in the top left corner of the screen) and tap Manage feeds.
- Scroll to the bottom until you see the New Feed box.
- Type or paste a name (webos-testing-armv7) and URL (Right Click - Copy Address) sure the URL does *not* have a slash at the end.
- Make sure the IS COMPRESSED option is set to YES.
- Tap Add Feed and then tap Yes when the alert pops up.
- Gesture swipe back. Preware will alert you that you have added feeds and ask if you want to update them now. Choose YES.
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Step 4: Installing UbuntuChroot, Xecutah, and XServer
- Open up Preware and tap List Of Everything.
- Search for and install the following: UbuntuChroot, Xecutah, and XServer
- Now opened Xecutah and tap XServer and a new card will come up.
- Go back to Xecutah and tap UbuntuChroot. Then swipe back to the new card that came up.
- Now you should have the Ubuntu terminal. Done. It should have a few 'mount' commands and then the @Touchpad:
Step 5: Installing Programs
- Now to have some fun after all that work you put in!
- Type the below and it will update the program lists.
Code:
apt-get update
- Now type the following to install what ever you wish!
Code:
/***type the below for AbiWord
apt-get install abiword
/***type the below for the Chromium Browser
apt-get install chromium-browser
/***type the below for GIMP
apt-get install gimp
/***type the below for Eclipse
apt-get install eclipse
/**type the below for LibreOffice
apt-get install LibreOffice
/***type the below for LXDE (a windows graphical interface) and then launch it by typing lxsession.
apt-get install lxde
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agian from precentral enjoy guys
Mods please move to there thread i was in a rush (dead battery) and put it in the wrong forum

Does anything else besides chromium, abiword, eclipse, libreoffice, lxde and gimp work?

linkinpark4175 said:
Does anything else besides chromium, abiword, eclipse, libreoffice, lxde and gimp work?
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anything you can compile for ARM or want to compile for ARM. there is a apt repository.

You could also find a complete guide to install Ubuntu Linux on HP TouchPad here

same thing
XDAnoobr said:
You could also find a complete guide to install Ubuntu Linux on HP TouchPad here
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agian that is only for Chroot which is the exact same thing

Works great, now I have lxde on my touchpad.

able to get ubuntu chroot working properly, with libreoffice
now, hunting for a Bluetooth Keyboard
any one going to test if BT Mouses work? (yeah, i know theres a touchscreen)

Is multi-touch supported on this?

what version of libreoffice does it install the latest one? And if anyone has installed it the ubuntu laggy or is it normal.

harsh3090416 said:
what version of libreoffice does it install the latest one? And if anyone has installed it the ubuntu laggy or is it normal.
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a little laggy sometimes, but still usable most of the time without any problems
libreoffice 3.3.2... you should probably check the ubuntu ARM 11.04 repository to see what is there
top says 1gb ram, 0.90gb used.... not sure why......
EDIT: Tried pairing a BT Mouse... able to find the device via "BT->Search other", but unable to pair properly. Mouse said paired successful, but touchpad couldnt continue, kept searching for devices
Tried "BT->Search Keyboard", but couldnt find the mouse this way

Now they have Debian chroot. Works great as well. Both can coexist at once. All it is is a folder at /media/extfs
Btw, has anyone gotten gnome working? I keep getting segmentation faults.

Is there a way to make that partition without meta doctor?

DJGonzo said:
Is there a way to make that partition without meta doctor?
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metadoctor makes a partition
you could loop a filesystem ontop of the existing partition to avoid this issue, but the page below recommends against it
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Chrooting

mount: mounting /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs on /media/ext3fs failed: No such file o
r directory
Why am i getting this error when trying to mount? It's really ticking me off as I haven't done anything different from the instructions.
I just spent an hour redoing the whole thing and guess what... i'm pissed off
same ****

samvillian said:
mount: mounting /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs on /media/ext3fs failed: No such file o
r directory
Why am i getting this error when trying to mount? It's really ticking me off as I haven't done anything different from the instructions.
I just spent an hour redoing the whole thing and guess what... i'm pissed off
same ****
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looks like you didn't do metadoctor properly,
or you didn't make the /media/ext3fs directory,
or "mount -o remount,rw" didn't execute properly
1st problem: your touchpad should have around 10GB free(out of 16GB, or do the math if you have a 32/64gb)
2nd problem: go back to cmd prompt and check that /media/ext3fs exists
3rd problem: reinstall via webos doctor and do it again

kevina90 said:
Now they have Debian chroot. Works great as well. Both can coexist at once. All it is is a folder at /media/extfs
Btw, has anyone gotten gnome working? I keep getting segmentation faults.
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Sorry, this is off topic. I'm sure Android will get here, but I really want to use my Touchpad (I haven't done much because I figured everything would get wiped anyway this weekend), so I think I'm going to give Linux a go. My understanding of Linux is rather crap. I thought Linux was the OS, and Ubuntu and other things were just GUIs to make it easier for people unfamiliar with command line. How could Debian simultaneously coexist?
I know I could go to wikipedia and look around and try to understand it, but by chance does anyone know any website that kinda describes Linux to beginners? I don't just want to follow the directions step by step on the guide (although its brilliant, looks very easy)without having the slightest effin idea what everything is, you know? Its weird, Linux confuses me, I don't know why. I've used ubuntu a number of times but it's just browsing firefox, not exactly rocket science!
Thanks if you can easily give link and press send then thanks but don't go out of your way, I can find something eventually, but I don't want someone else mucking around for my sake. Its no emergency.

Komodo Rogue said:
Sorry, this is off topic. I'm sure Android will get here, but I really want to use my Touchpad (I haven't done much because I figured everything would get wiped anyway this weekend), so I think I'm going to give Linux a go. My understanding of Linux is rather crap. I thought Linux was the OS, and Ubuntu and other things were just GUIs to make it easier for people unfamiliar with command line. How could Debian simultaneously coexist?
I know I could go to wikipedia and look around and try to understand it, but by chance does anyone know any website that kinda describes Linux to beginners? I don't just want to follow the directions step by step on the guide (although its brilliant, looks very easy)without having the slightest effin idea what everything is, you know? Its weird, Linux confuses me, I don't know why. I've used ubuntu a number of times but it's just browsing firefox, not exactly rocket science!
Thanks if you can easily give link and press send then thanks but don't go out of your way, I can find something eventually, but I don't want someone else mucking around for my sake. Its no emergency.
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I would just find a book on amazon about linux with good reviews made in the past 1-2 years. I would look for one that is distribution neutral.
The reason you can have webos on there and another version of linux is because it's basically installed in another partition (not really, but that's the easiest way I can describe it to you). The actual details of how chroot works are different, but that should relate enough to you to get what it it is.

Linux is the Kernel. Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora and the rest are distributions of that kernel along with a GUI, and programs to make it a fully functional OS like Windows or OS X.
The Debian and Ubuntu on WebOS is minimal pared down distribution with no gui.

I just went thru all the steps , contacting the army of monkeys, and installed all the preware stuff.
I get Service Error Unable to run command : /sbin/initctl start org.webinternals.debian-squeeze etc etc
Unknown job org.webosinternals.debian-squeeze-chroot.
I got this with the Ubuntu chroot too. any ideas?

paperWastage said:
looks like you didn't do metadoctor properly,
or you didn't make the /media/ext3fs directory,
or "mount -o remount,rw" didn't execute properly
1st problem: your touchpad should have around 10GB free(out of 16GB, or do the math if you have a 32/64gb)
2nd problem: go back to cmd prompt and check that /media/ext3fs exists
3rd problem: reinstall via webos doctor and do it again
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I've redone webos doctor like 4 times already.
How do I check if the directory exists? Plus i'm on a fresh 32gb, so its not that.
thanks
edit: i tested to see if the directories existed and i found a possible error.
i just cd to the folder to see if it exists, and media/ext3fs existed.
but the /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs doesn't exist apparently...
would that be the issue?

[Q] Running Windows on RAZR i

I was wondering if it's possible to run a Windows OS natively on the RAZR i because it has an x86 processor.

It's possible, I think, but drivers might be a problem. Windows has a lot of drivers built in, but I doubt it has the proper drivers for a phone. After all, it was never designed to run on something like this.

freak4dell said:
It's possible, I think, but drivers might be a problem. Windows has a lot of drivers built in, but I doubt it has the proper drivers for a phone. After all, it was never designed to run on something like this.
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Windows 8 RT maybe?

Marcb said:
Windows 8 RT maybe?
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There is no such thing.. only Windows 8 and Windows RT.

rommudoh said:
There is no such thing.. only Windows 8 and Windows RT.
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Ok... so consider Windows 8 then...

I am by no means an expert in this field but wouldn't it be easier to try and get something like Ubuntu running on it and then you could at least run windows applications through wine. If this goes well we could look into putting windows (either 7 or 8) onto the phone.
A user posted the following in this thread:
pablocrossa said:
So I tried this out and there is a chroot-compatible busybox after rooting ("busybox chroot" needs to be called as opposed to "chroot" as there is no properly made link), so anyone with this phone can try (using a PC) install Ubuntu without the grub bootloader using manual partitioning on a single ext3 (I am not sure if ICS supports ext4) partition on a microsd, put into your phone, use a root terminal, mount it, mount the adequate dev, dev/pts, proc and sys partitions and chroot right in. You then might want to install a VNC server in Ubuntu to be able to create a VNC X session in a framebuffer and a VNC client on the android side to VNC into localhost (127.0.0.1), but that should work, I didn't have time to try it this weekend If someone gets stuck post and let us see what happens I cannot wait to see if wine can run desktop Spotify with sound, excited a little hehe.
EDIT: So to make this more understandable you must:
Install Ubuntu (using your computer) to a MicroSD, specifying partitions manually and choosing only a single ext3. Right before clicking install there is a button with something along the lines of "Advanced options", disable the install the bootloader (grub) option.
Insert the MicroSD into the phone and open a root terminal
I don't use Android, maybe it automounts in /media/sdcard or /sdcard, if not you will have to find the device and partition name (probably /dev/mmcblk0p1 or /dev/sdb1) and issue "mount /dev/DEVICEPARTITION /media/sdcard"
mount -t proc proc /media/sdcard/proc
mount -o bind /dev/ /media/sdcard/dev/
mount -t devpts devpts /media/sdcard/dev/pts
busybox chroot /media/sdcard /bin/bash
Now a shell from Ubuntu should open. apt-get update && apt-get install vncserver (maybe the DNS settings must be set in /etc/resolv.conf, not yet sure)
vncserver (or start vncserver, something along those lines)
Now from Android install a VNC viewer and vnc into 127.0.0.1 (or localhost)
That should do it, again if you get stuck post here
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If you can make the boot loader to read GRUB or MBR partition tables than the phone will load a Win XP/Vista/7/8 because of the native x86 instructions in the processor. Trying to find matching drivers then is the next step.
Sent from DefyX RED.

if this possible....